Mini 1161 - Neruzian Era Mafia (Over!)

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/confirm

Nights ending early sounds fine to me.

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If you don't care charter than vote yes, since it has to be unanimous for it to happen.

I say lets start now.

Vote: Empking

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Oh snap I just got the irony... big ben is a clock, and yet he is late. Lulz.











Sorry.

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Unvote
Vote: Sloth

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I think I should point out that despite the (artificially) large size of that last post it said absolutely nothing relevant to the game save the absurdity (which is almost certainally not true) of we should have three legitimate wagons before killing anyone.

* And you look like scum. VOTE: Empking

Care to explain?

Unless I am mistaken, I am pretty sure Looker's vote on you was an RVS vote...

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I put my vote on Sloth because nothing has stood out to me yet in this game and I wanted to see how he would respond to a second vote on him.

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Hey Faraday long time no see.
As tempted as I am to vote Faraday for his questionable choices in trouser-wearing, someone else has caught my eye.

I think it's the wagoning at the first sign of a semblance of a reasonable vote, Vi.

Unless he's a pal of yours, that sounds like buddying to me. I also see no reason for him to confirm your thoughts to you (presumably you already know what you meant). So, was he instead taking the opportunity to make me look more suspicious? I don't know of course, it's early days, but I don't like the buddying feel to it. (Yes I know town can buddy town etc, but to quote yourself, "Something seems off").

I also noticed Sloth's 1st hello post:

Yes to the nights thing too, for the record.

Long nights = boring as all hell.

Bolded bit reads to me like an over-reaction to the question.

VOTE: Sloth L-3

Both of those reasons for voting Sloth sound no good to me, and here is why. As for your first accusation, pointing out something to Vi is not the same as buddying. People do this all the time, and there is nothing wrong with it. Second accusation = WTF. Overreaction? No. He was making a simple comment about not liking long nights. I saw exactly

nothing

wrong with this statement. It seems to me that you are the one overreacting here. You get the slightest pressure and you start reaching for someone else to shift suspicions onto. Me no likey.

Unvote
Vote Neuky

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* And lol at saying you are disappointed with Vi for "namecalling." Calling you "sheepy" and "le sheep" are in no way malicious namecalling.

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Hey pap-rat, before I forget to ask again, what's your avatar from?

Ulver's Kveldssanger.

I am lost on the Quilford case atm, I just don't see it.

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is quilford at l-1? i don't want to hammer but im sort of suspecting him now

What makes you suspect him exactly?

In fact, why does anyone suspect him? I don't see anything suspect upon re-reading the thread and iso'ing him.

Empking and charter, what do you think of Quilford?

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V/LA until Sunday

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Unvote
Vote Empking

Zero scumhunting, way too much defending of himself with no real pressure

at all

(like half to 3/4 of his posts are this), and a poor vote on Quilford.

Scumreads: Empking, Scott, and Twisted Spoon. (In that order)
Townreads: Vi, Quilford, Charter, Zdenek, Faraday. (In that order)

Hiplop, you may have already answered this question, but why exactly did you ask if Quilford was at L-1?

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I am happy with my vote on Empking. He is playing completely different than the way he did in Mini 1105 when he was town, he didn't ask meaningless questions every sentence and he actually proactively looked for scum. His play this game is entirely different and is awfully scummy, all he has done is defend himself.

confirm vote: Empking

Quilford isn't looking so good anymore, the observation someone made about him hiding from this thread right after he was wagoned to L-1 is spot on. Quilford, who are your top three scumreads? We have had 16 pages to come to conclusions, it shouldn't be that hard to come up with some reads.

Scott is looking better, although he was wrong in his description about Faraday's thoughts on Quilford. I dont think that was on purpose though, so Scott moves to null-leaning-town for now.

Sloth, Neuky, and Zdenek all look town to me.

Hiplop: why did you vote Empking in the first place? Why does he seem scummy to you?

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Zdenek, come over to the Empking wagon. We're serving flounder, and it doesn't even talk back unless you poke it with a fork.

ROFLMAO. That is sig-worthy.

Pappums, what's your read on Faraday?

Town.

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^^ California rolls destroy souls. You should try it.

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^ Yes, I think his last several posts have seemed to come from someone with proper intentions.

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pr: What do you mean by "all"?

Lol. This is a good wagon right here folks, I want more pressure.

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All, as in (practically) every one. Happy?

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And I have not answered most of your questions because they are pointless.

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Unvote
Vote Empking

Zero scumhunting

Define "scumhunting". Also: Why do you think I did zero scumhunting?

, way too much defending of himself with no real pressure

at all

(like half to 3/4 of his posts are this),

Excluding this post where have I defended myself?

Well, I guess that is pretty much all the questions you have asked me directly, but all three of them have been pointless. All you have done all game is defend yourself and ask people questions about why they suspect you. You have mentioned where you thought there was some distancing and other things, but the vast majority of your posts have been self-defense.

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After reviewing your iso, I have to agree with you. I was mistaken, it seemed to me that you had been more defensive than you actually were. You have asked a lot of questions, but they have not been pointless. So I will

unvote

and re-read the thread with this in mind.

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Lol I shouldn't have allowed myself to be so easily deceived. I am hereby expressing intent to hammer. Claim please.

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Empking, if you are town than I am sorry, but your vote flipflop in your last post sealed the deal for me.

Vote Empking

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Also, BAH.

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Pappums that vig shot man was bad. Ts should have been NAILED to the wall night 1.

I know

I had figured TS was probably going to get lynched the following day anyway, and I was set on Neuky mainly due to these two posts:

I think it's the wagoning at the first sign of a semblance of a reasonable vote, Vi.

Unless he's a pal of yours, that sounds like buddying to me. I also see no reason for him to confirm your thoughts to you (presumably you already know what you meant). So, was he instead taking the opportunity to make me look more suspicious? I don't know of course, it's early days, but I don't like the buddying feel to it. (Yes I know town can buddy town etc, but to quote yourself, "Something seems off").

I also noticed Sloth's 1st hello post:

Yes to the nights thing too, for the record.

Long nights = boring as all hell.

Bolded bit reads to me like an over-reaction to the question.

VOTE: Sloth L-3

Name calling from Vi? - I'm a bit disappointed if indeed that's what it is. (We could all do that, but it'd end up a bit of a barney..)

Sometimes I log on and read, but don't have time to post. (I usually post at lunchtimes at work, or late evenings). I do try and keep up. I also see Quilford is active at the moment but not posting - but I'll not hold that against him unless it's part of a bigger case.

Anyway, as you are also online at the moment, what do you think of Sloth's comment on the shortened nights?

In my mind he was obvscum, and I didn't push him further because if I did and he didn't get lynched and then turned up dead day 2 the scum would have fingered me as the vig. Not that it would have mattered since I turned up dead from the mafia's kill. Thanks for thinking of me Vi. </3