Open 330: Masons and Mafia (Game Over, Scum Win)

chamber · Post Post #614 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:20 pm

Whod you guys fail killing?

chamber · Post Post #617 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:23 pm

This setup has to be anti town. 9-3 nightless is 50/50 ev, I hear town wins 8/4 nightless though, at anyrate I think this is worse for town than 8/4 nightless. the strength masons have is shat on by the mechanic, may as well be 8/4 nightless where the mafia can randomly get kills.

chamber · Post Post #619 (isolation #2) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:24 pm

chamber wrote:Whod you guys fail killing?

chamber · Post Post #624 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:28 pm

glowball wrote:ALso, how many times do I have to say that I am a GIRL! Still disrespectful...

Your avatar looks male.

chamber · Post Post #626 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:28 pm

also QT link?

chamber · Post Post #629 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:30 pm

Still looks male. And text stands out less than the old coloured symbles.

chamber · Post Post #633 (isolation #6) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:33 pm

I wasn't trying to be a dick. Just tell you why I, and I assume others, mistake you for being male.

chamber · Post Post #638 (isolation #7) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:36 pm

scum QT is almost as long as this thread qq.

chamber · Post Post #647 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:43 pm

glowball wrote:
dramonic wrote:I'm... glad I got shot at? .-.
Also, Yami-chan alt? XD

if you are talking about me, which has been said before I'd ask that you not insult me with your little alt jokes- it's rude laugh at your keyboard because i guarantee you wouldn't dare say some shit like that to me IRL

He just said what everyone but you was thinking.

chamber · Post Post #655 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:52 pm

glowball wrote:
chamber wrote:
glowball wrote:
dramonic wrote:I'm... glad I got shot at? .-.
Also, Yami-chan alt? XD

if you are talking about me, which has been said before I'd ask that you not insult me with your little alt jokes- it's rude laugh at your keyboard because i guarantee you wouldn't dare say some shit like that to me IRL

He just said what everyone but you was thinking.

and there chamber goes being a dick again...

Just being honest, take it how you will. I'll admit I haven't gotten through the whole QT yet but it looks like you were just making enemies where there were none. The yami parallel is easy to draw.

chamber · Post Post #658 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:30 pm

More on the balance:

The issue I see is primarily that the benefit the masons gain from discussion and knowing who isn't mafia is about equivalent to the mafia's ability to figure out the masons identity, but the mafia can act on that information significantly more effectively than the masons can. I think the masons are more of a downside than a positive.

chamber · Post Post #663 (isolation #11) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:58 pm

Kats said something like that too, I find both statements odd. Its fairly easy to lynch a mason in this setup, its hard for their fellow masons to defend them. Lynching a mason is better than lynching a VT. I don't get why its notable I geuss?

chamber · Post Post #665 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:24 pm

kanyeknowsbest wrote:lynching a vt is better because you can kill the mason at any time once you know they are a mason. if you dont lynch vts you get into the situation we were in day 2 where, even though we know the last mason, we still need to push another mislynch through. if we had lynched a vt instead of crazy, our missed shot would not have mattered and we could have ended the game right there without having to risk another lynch.

that said, mason lynches definitely have the added benefit of aiding in mason hunting, since i felt the crazy lynch made ellimason pretty obvious, and i think if we hadnt rushed the dram shot we could have ended it then.

I was speaking from the town pov and you from the scum so I think we agree?

chamber · Post Post #694 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:09 pm

Fate wrote:I MISVOTED FUCKIN SOCIO

ELLIE N CLOWNS QUICKHAMMERED HIM AND MISLYNCHED HIM

AFTER THAT MY HANDS ARE WASHED

I ONLY READ YOU AS TOWN BC THE META ARGUMENT WAS FFFF

That quickhammer was fine. I mean obviously our socio read was wrong and I take responsibility there, but hammering scum before they can get off an NK in this setup is perfectly reasonable. Also it was CES, how is that anything but a town tell for him? Elli was being town!elli too based on my limited experience, you have more than me there though so hard for me to say.