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Noramp · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:17 am

/confirm

VOTE: Metabot

Noramp · Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:01 pm

VOTE: meta

Noramp · Post Post #64 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:49 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Painted

DVs vote seemed rather random/a stab at a real vote and I believe you jumped on something and created a mountain out of a molehill on purpose. It seems as if DV was attempting to get the ball rolling and start discussion on something he believed could at least be possible.

Noramp · Post Post #108 (isolation #3) » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:17 am

Slaandar wrote:You can actually see Painted coming to Skenvoys aid like 3 times subtly, there looks like a link there

(Post 34)

@Painted Why did you not address this relatively serious accusation when it first arose but are now defending it tooth and nail?

@Slaandar Did you intend for Painted to address this claim?

Noramp · Post Post #167 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:28 am

Slaandar could you address my question in post 108?

Did anyone ever answer J's appeal for a case on sken?

Noramp · Post Post #176 (isolation #5) » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:47 pm

Fennin wrote:The votes are not telling it but the main subject here is Sken.

Why do you believe Sken is the main subject beyond meta reasons since you seem to not like using meta

Noramp · Post Post #197 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:27 pm

Painted wrote:I've addressed it over and over again, by saying that I thought the way DV went after Sken seemed scummy (for reasons I've explained). Even if they are both scum, the way DV posted seemed scummy. So I wasn't defending Sken, I was saying that either way DV's attack was illogical and that I suspected DV.

Fair enough but that wasn't really my question. Slaandar accused you of defending Sken. You didnt even address the fact that he accused you of it. I want to know why you didn't bother addressing this accusation when it first arose and only when you received a lot more pressure did you start to answer the accusations.

Noramp · Post Post #229 (isolation #7) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:41 pm

Sken wrote: Lynch me, then lynch him next

Why would we lynch you if you're town?

Noramp · Post Post #231 (isolation #8) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:21 pm

so why not push for his lynch rather than yours?

Noramp · Post Post #254 (isolation #9) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:07 am

Painted why are you dodging my question?

Noramp · Post Post #287 (isolation #10) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:48 pm

post 197 painted i responded to your answer

Noramp · Post Post #319 (isolation #11) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:22 am

I'm thinking IS could be a very good lynch candidate right now
UNVOTE:
VOTE: IS

Noramp · Post Post #356 (isolation #12) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:25 pm

Painted and IS appear to be too obviously on the same wavelength I don't see why two scumbuddies would be so likeminded

UNVOTE: for now. IS I have my reasons for being suspicious of you.

VOTE: Painted I would like to see a painted flip before we go ahead.

J what are your thoughts about IS?

I personally still don't see sken wagon. I'll reread but I've done so a couple times now. I really don't like the fact that some people are using weak meta to push a sken wagon.

Noramp · Post Post #374 (isolation #13) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:00 pm

IS do you think lurking for 10 pages is protown? Can you understand a possible town DJ being frustrated with you for doing such? Do you acknowledge that DJ has scumhunted before moving to you?

Noramp · Post Post #381 (isolation #14) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:39 pm

wasnt trying to defend dj was trying to get clear answers from you without sarcasm. Perhaps that wasn't clear but was trying to get a solid idea of where you stood. I also didnt see an answer to the first two questions i posed?

Noramp · Post Post #390 (isolation #15) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:06 am

I think its who you've voted for previously

Noramp · Post Post #448 (isolation #16) » Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:41 pm

Right now my top three are Painted, IS, and Fennin

Gunna read thru DV and see what IS was talking about in terms of altering his playstyle.

Noramp · Post Post #565 (isolation #17) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:20 am

Slaandar you are grasping at straws. Delta happened to be online when you posted. You are comparing apples and oranges. Just because he posted between a time frame on one day does not mean he can post within that time frame on another day.

Why is Delta's potential lurking worse than anyone elses? IS did nothing but answer cat calls for ten pages.

Fighting where do you stand?

Null-Town (no order)
J
Sken
DV
Delta

null-scum
Fennin
Slaandar
DJ
Meta

Most likely scum
IS
Painted

No idea
Fighting

Noramp · Post Post #593 (isolation #18) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:48 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Slaandar
FoS:IS

Slaandar this case is terribad.

IS you rely way too heavily on fear tactics with little actual content to sway people.

Noramp · Post Post #603 (isolation #19) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:06 pm

Thats true and has come up a lot but i keep forgetting to mention it. Why does IS's opinion of you factor into who you want to lynch DV?

Noramp · Post Post #662 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:58 pm

in my mind slaandar came off as being really scummy in that exchange and the way IS attempted to downplay the whole thing looks like an attempt to defend slaandar by sweeping his case under the rug as town vs town

DJ you arent looking for a compromise youre looking for us to lynch your candidates. I really dont see Delta as scum

skenvoys latest posts have come off as scummy as well. After his whole stop defending me tirade it seems like it would be pretty difficult to stop viewing painted as a white knight.

Noramp · Post Post #671 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:06 pm

Mainly IS but skenvoy is becoming increasingly scummy

I'm also ok with Painted or slaandar and to a much lesser extent now Fennin. His lack of involvement recently and all the new information has made me forget why I suspected him which is probably not good :/

Slaandar I had a pretty good town read on early on but I personally view Delta as being town and his case was so terrible that it seemed like scum feeling like they had an easy mislynch. I am willing to look past my town read on delta if a good case was brought to light however arguing semantics for 3 pages with no real purpose while instead regurgitating the same thing over and over is so scummy it can't be ignored.

My case against IS is largely what you have call the beetlejuice syndrome or something. This compared to his case about DV changing his playstyle when he was beginning to receive pressure seems very similar to him changing his playstyle or lack there of when receiving pressure. This coupled with his constant fear tactics with no real content and basically outright refusing to go into his detail against you beyond talking points make IS my top candidate.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: IS

If i had to widdle it to three: IS, Skenvoy, Painted in that order (slaandar is a very close 4th)

Noramp · Post Post #672 (isolation #22) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:08 pm

hey dv just curious why did you decide to put me in front of dj in skens list?

Noramp · Post Post #698 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:55 pm

@mod same with J

and DV it should go without saying that a list like that should have no bias. You are simply duplicating peoples sentiments so that they can be seen in one post. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of redacting your name from everyones lists and saying well i didnt want to go lynched...duh

Skenvoy: It is largely the last page i find fault with. I expressed mild suspicion towards you and all of a sudden I was in your top 4 when you hadn't mentioned my name in the preceding 26 pages seems a little off

Noramp · Post Post #724 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:46 am

IS you are my main suspect and I would not classify you as being one of the people who post the most. I also would not classify it as shitting on people and running away. DJ and I have both brought up the fact that that is exactly what you do. This is the second time you are using something to declare someone scummy when you are in fact the one guilty of it. You claim DV changed his playstyle under pressure when you also changed your playstyle when people called you out. Now you are saying people are swooping in, shitting on people then disappearing. You have made baseless claims against DJ and have been asked repeatedly to substantiate these claims to which you have simply ignored our pleas. Few if any of your posts have contained actual content. All you say is that DJ is trying to manipulate us with his cult leader tendencies. You are trying to scare town into believing that DJ is only taking care of himself while you are our knight in shining armor for taking the blinders off of our eyes.

You all need to consider why you don't suspect IS. From the very beginning he has been belligerent for no reason and super defensive. These are not town tendencies.

Noramp · Post Post #734 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:34 pm

Alright here's the thing. I'm in a neighborhood with IS and J. IS is acting way more scummy than J and correct me if I'm wrong but there's generally one scum in a neighborhood.

and IS please tell me when I was being belligerent. I have gotten frustrated by your lack of acknowledgement and imo that is more than fair from my perspective. Even after I addressed this point you ignored it. Tell me what I have said that is nonsense. I didn't call you a white knight. I used a simile comparing you to a knight in shining armor riding in to save the town from DJ. How many people are actually listening to DJ? How many think he's scum? The town is hardly in a position to be defended against him. You are misconstruing his importance within the town for your own gain.

Noramp · Post Post #737 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:06 pm

yes thats it slaandar and going off the wiki it seems extremely likely that there is at least one scum

Noramp · Post Post #749 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:51 pm

neighbor isnt my role...

Noramp · Post Post #754 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:47 pm

anyone else think its odd that painted voted for me for supposedly claiming and is now trying to figure out my role? and i'm saying that neighbor isn't contingent on any role

Noramp · Post Post #756 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:09 pm

neighbor is a role but has no bearing on alignment so why would you vote me for telling you that we have a neighborhood. You then attempt to figure out if i have a role outside of vt. that is definition of rolefishing

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Painted

Noramp · Post Post #765 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:33 pm

Neighbor is a secondary role

Noramp · Post Post #812 (isolation #31) » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:13 pm

Painted I've stated along with a couple other people that neighbor is NOT my role. It is not like mason it is just a secondary role with no alignment. I am/was under the impression that there was a good chance that a neighborhood of 3 would contain at least one scum. I never soft claimed anything. You attempted to draw a role out of me after voting for me but I never soft claimed anything. Informing everyone of the neighborhood is in no way scummy. It does not really help scum at all. If we're all town then scum already know we're all town it doesn't matter if we're in a neighborhood or not and being in a neighborhood does NOT enhance your chance of getting a power role so they have just as much chance of hitting a power role random NKing. Your case is garbage just like your earlier case against DV.

I especially like your A6. I'm scummy because my neighbors haven't posted since i brought the neighborhood to light? ok that makes sense...

Noramp · Post Post #903 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:15 pm

@anyone not voting or considering voting for IS. What is your opinion on IS outright ignoring countless attempts to substantiate his claims?

Noramp · Post Post #905 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:32 pm

lol are you kidding me DV??? are you not reading this thread at all?

Noramp · Post Post #906 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:33 pm

how can you say you dont agree with is wagon when you ahve no idea what the is wagon is?

Noramp · Post Post #908 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:29 pm

DJ and I have both made attempts for IS to backup his claims. He has never even acknowledged that we have done this. What is your take on this?

Noramp · Post Post #945 (isolation #36) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:31 am

IS my points against you are valid and all you have done to "defend" yourself is berate me for being a crony. That does not come off as town so why would I think you are anything but scum?

Noramp · Post Post #964 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:27 am

why lynch a lurker when people have actual opinions. Why did we bother playing 40 pages just to get to the end of the day and policy lynch.

Noramp · Post Post #983 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:07 pm

I am leaning towards a DV lynch because I'm getting the feeling that IS is attempting to bus him by standing strong in his convictions that DV is scum but failing to bring anything to the actual table to discuss. And sorry Slaandar but you are also tops on my list mainly because of your delta lurking argument. Skenvoy and painted i think are a distant 4th

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DV

Noramp · Post Post #1022 (isolation #39) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:56 pm

this metabot wagon seems very scum motivated since a town metabot will ultimately land us in the same position we are in now. so why not just make the hard decision now and lynch someone that might tell us something about alignment.

Dj why switch to meta when all they need is to lead the vote count at days end? Are you trying to get the lynch before days end?