NY 150: Mob Money Mafia GAME OVER

[BBmolla]

For the record, SlySly's scum with Projectmatt/Furc/Grifiest as well, and probably Lowell. The fourth I am less sure on, but it's either Pine or Damon.

So says my QT, and so shall it be.

Wait, what do you mean by this?

As I said before, I literally didn't read any of the game before, so if there are any claims or anything I missed, it'd be great if someone told me <_<

[BBmolla]

Vote: Mastin2

This shit again, Mastin? Don't you ever learn?

This serious?

[BBmolla]

Do you actually think he's scum, or just anti-town town?

[BBmolla]

It's not that he bolded it, it's more that he pulled it out as some sort of scum-slip. Read the post. He's not mentioning it like its just something in passing. He wanted people to jump on it. And now that they haven't, he's just ignored it and passed. Common distancing tactic is common.

That's such bullshit. "So says my QT, and so shall it be." is not really an obvious statement, it could mean many things. My original assumption was that he was a neighbor, but it didn't fit exactly with what he said.

I still don't understand your Mastin vote.

[BBmolla]

It's not that he bolded it, it's more that he pulled it out as some sort of scum-slip. Read the post. He's not mentioning it like its just something in passing. He wanted people to jump on it. And now that they haven't, he's just ignored it and passed. Common distancing tactic is common.

That's such bullshit. "So says my QT, and so shall it be." is not really an obvious statement, it could mean many things. My original assumption was that he was a neighbor, but it didn't fit exactly with what he said.

I still don't understand your Mastin vote.

Is it bullshit? Who outs town roles like that? Scum outs town roles like that. The only bullshit here is your excuse for trying to out Mastin.

Please tell me this is a terrible reaction test.

I didn't out shit, and that's a complete misrep. When some says "So says my QT, and so shall it be." they aren't trying to hide the fact they have a QT. I replaced in without having read a word, so I'm trying to catch up, and someone claiming they have a QT is generally something I'd like to know about.

@Others:

Is Town-chkflip or Scum-chkflip more likely to make an awful case like the above? I've only played with him as scum, and one time he lurked while the other he actually pushed some pretty solid cases, which is why this misrep is confusing me.

[BBmolla]

How am I misrepresenting you?

You bolded his quote. You asked him what it was about. That's all I said you did. That's all I said scum do.

Point out the misrepresentation, please.

You said I tried to "out his role" when all I was doing was asking why he mentioned a QT and what the QT was for.

Even if he was a neighbor, it wouldn't be role fishing if they basically outed part of their role. Like, if Player Y says "Bobby is guilty" and then Player X says "Why's that?" you don't respond with "PLAYER X IS ROLE FISHING," that's absurd. Player Y can then respond with "I just think he's Mafia" or "It's part of my role which I will not unveil atm" or "Just trust me" or "I'm cop." It's simply town trying to inquire what lead one to say a statement.

And I don't check this thread every second.

[BBmolla]

Is it possible that some of you on the Gant wagon could give an explanation for your vote?

Vote: Damon

Didn't like the implications in your posts before the crash. This was my strongest scumread as well. I voted Bunny for her quick town call on Pine in the QT (pre-game). My judgement tells me to go with what I know and see/saw. Obviously no new scumtells are going to pop up now but your attitude drew my attention, Damon.

^Is it this for all of you?

[BBmolla]

BB, why are you asking?

I'm trying to understand the intent behind the votes, as yours seemed to be the only explained one. The rest of them are just sheep for all I know.

[BBmolla]

And if they are?

Then I'd like to find out why.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Pizza

Comparing Lowell and Pizza's dreadful ISOs, I believe Pizza's is more indicative of scum, although not by a ton.

Is there any specific reason people are choosing a Lowell vote over a Pizza vote?

[BBmolla]

V/LA till Saturday

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Pine

[BBmolla]

Yay reactions.

UNVOTE:

I'd hardly call myself "coasting" when I have more posts than half the players.

Can we please kill this coasting bastard? Putting a vote on someone who is almost certainly town without explanation makes me want to bury him now.

Pine literally had zero posts yesterday. I had not seen Pine post in this game. At all. Mind explaining to me why he was "almost certainly town"? There's no possible way you should expect me to get a townread on someone off of

zero posts

.

@Others: Is Town-chkflip or Scum-chkflip more likely to make an awful case like the above? I've only played with him as scum, and one time he lurked while the other he actually pushed some pretty solid cases, which is why this misrep is confusing me.

First, read this bullshit. Does this look like he's setting up for a chkflip vote later?
Because if it doesn't, you're a fucking idiot.
Then, asks you, why didn't he vote chkflip, ever? Did they come to an agreement? Did chkflip change BB's mind?

Nope. No one cares about his bullshit case, so he doesn't take the risk in pushing it. Instead, he settles on Pizza instead of Lowell for god-knows-what-reason

You summarize what I do but in now way explain how it's scummy. It just says "If you don't think he's scum, you're retarded." I don't even understand the bolded part, like what. Due to the responses I got and the different feel I got, Chkflip is probably town so I didn't pursue that. Why is me not pursuing a townread and voting someone who is scummy, scummy? Hell you were even voting Pizza yesterday. There is no reasoning here, it's just explaining what I did yesterday and twisting it to seem scummy.

And now, instead of doing anything, plops down a vote on Pine, probably because he pushed to lynch the cop yesterday. And does he push the case immediately when it's presented by Pine and SlySly? Nope, he waits to check if it has a chance of going through first, then brings it up when after DG's dead.

I don't even know what you're talking about here. Who pushed to lynch the cop? Pine? Why would I know this.

In addition:

BB, why are you asking?

I'm trying to understand the intent behind the votes, as yours seemed to be the only explained one. The rest of them are just sheep for all I know.

oh lord you didn't read the game, sorry.

^You clearly knew I didn't read and still you insisted I should know this crap.

Your reasoning is terrible and is just you attempting to push a mislynch on me.

VOTE: Nacho

TS sheeping Nacho is awful as well.

[BBmolla]

Pine literally had zero posts yesterday. I had not seen Pine post in this game. At all. Mind explaining to me why he was "almost certainly town"? There's no possible way you should expect me to get a townread on someone off of zero posts.

This looks like bullshit.

You do realize we had like 20 something pages to go off with the other thread right? You are speaking as if the other thread never existed and it was impossible for Nacho to get a read on Pine from it.

Ya.

No.

VOTE: BBmolla

I am trusting Pine, but I believe he is telling the truth about Bunny who is also another good lynch.

Read the post again.

I'm not saying Nacho couldn't, I'm saying it's silly to assume I could get a read off of no posts.

[BBmolla]

This really doesn't feel like town BB to me

"but pine did this too...." just isn't the town arguments that are characteristic of the BB i've played with.
Admittedly he's had about half as much info to analyse as the rest of us, but that's no reason to keep him alve for that sake.
And his Nacho vote is a horrible omgus.... on Nacho of all people...

You didn't even read my post did you?

I don't even understand the point you're making here.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: BBmolla

Can't say I didn't tell you so.

lol

[BBmolla]

Pine literally had zero posts yesterday. I had not seen Pine post in this game. At all. Mind explaining to me why he was "almost certainly town"? There's no possible way you should expect me to get a townread on someone off of zero posts.

This looks like bullshit.

You do realize we had like 20 something pages to go off with the other thread right? You are speaking as if the other thread never existed and it was impossible for Nacho to get a read on Pine from it.

Ya.

No.

VOTE: BBmolla

I am trusting Pine, but I believe he is telling the truth about Bunny who is also another good lynch.

Read the post again.

I'm not saying Nacho couldn't, I'm saying it's silly to assume I could get a read off of no posts.

Just to add on, my argument is that Nacho is saying I should know that Pine is "almost certainly town" when I have no reason to believe so. He is pushing this case on me when he has acknowledged the fact that I didn't read the previous thread and would have no idea that Pine was "almost certainly town."

He is lying. He's using my lack of knowledge and attempting to twist it to be scummy. And apparently it's working if you're blindly following him.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBmolla

See ya later, mate. I also know, from meta, that this is not town BBmolla, rather scum BBmolla.

Okay. Then explain. How is my play here different?

Whoever also used this argument also explain the differences.

[BBmolla]

Why do I feel like I'm the only sane person in this game.

[BBmolla]

Okay. Then explain. How is my play here different?

This is fucking ridiculous. I'm getting lynched off of non-existant meta and a case that I SHOWED WAS WRONG.

[BBmolla]

There is NO way this BBMolla is forming so easily on scum. I'll need to check the names to make certain. But that wagon STINKS of scum.

In fact.

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

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If I did the math right (15 alive, 8 to lynch, 5 votes plus mine), this should be L-2.

I want a claim.

^Mastin is this a joke.

[BBmolla]

You know what, whatever. One less game I have to reread.

Scum tell your buddies to hop on so I can claim.

[BBmolla]

BL trying to cover for his mate just makes it clearer.

What BL said is not "covering for me," it's completely true and what I've been saying.

From what I read, it was because this isn't his town play, but

no one yet to explain the difference between his town and scum play.

This is a fact.

BB wasn't here when the other thread was up,

so what is scummy about asking Nacho to explain his town read on Pine?

This is a fact.

Read Newbie 1171. BBmolla was town, and his play here is completely different.

Newbie games are

very

different than other games. Like look at my town play here. That's the entire game. Does that look like my town newbie play?

[BBmolla]

BL trying to cover for his mate just makes it clearer.

What BL said is not "covering for me," it's completely true and what I've been saying.

From what I read, it was because this isn't his town play, but

no one yet to explain the difference between his town and scum play.

This is a fact.

BB wasn't here when the other thread was up,

so what is scummy about asking Nacho to explain his town read on Pine?

This is a fact.

Read Newbie 1171. BBmolla was town, and his play here is completely different.

Newbie games are

very

different than other games. Like look at my town play here. That's the entire game. Does that look like my town newbie play?

@Bottom - Maybe not, but I got a general idea of how you played as town. You may have been more open about it, as it was a Newbie Game, but I got the general idea. I

do

know how you play as a vig, as I read one of your games, where you a vig (a Mini I think), but your play does not seem at all the same to that, so I doubt you are a vig.

Mayo Clinic was a different story, I was part of leading the town in breaking the setup. Hell, half of that game was me and Whisper brainstorming how to best break the setup, I honestly don't really count it as Mafia as we did very little scumhunting.

[BBmolla]

Sly, a Nacho lynch is stupid. I think you are overexaggerating his "softclaim" and going after a town player.

Why do you think he's town?

[BBmolla]

Nacho is pretty obviously Town. Back in your hole, BBscum.

Man solid reasoning. Can't argue with that. Definitely solidified by him disappearing after some of us voted him.

[BBmolla]

Nacho is pretty obviously Town. Back in your hole, BBscum.

Man solid reasoning. Can't argue with that. Definitely solidified by him disappearing after some of us voted him.

... Like you?

And Sly. I just didn't remember who it was and was too lazy to check.

[BBmolla]

BL seems townier than Pine imo. I don't understand why people think Pine is town because "BL is scum" when BL seems town to me.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pine

I prefer this over BL lynch.

We have four days folks, we need to figure out who we're lynching so we can deal with claiming.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pine

I prefer this over BL lynch.

We have four days folks, we need to figure out who we're lynching so we can deal with claiming.

Nope. Pine tomorrow, depending on your flip. Sorry; thanks for playing.

Whatever, if we're lynching me let's decide it quickly so I can claim.

[BBmolla]

Arright, so your argument then is to lynch me because I've annoyed and mocked you. I could forgive it if you thought there was a Town/Scum Neighbor dichotomy and had concluded that I was the Scum Neighbor, but you're just a butthurt ten-year-old.

McQueen has absolutely no credibility in my eyes anymore, and I will be making every effort not to engage in his ego-stroking until he grows the fuck up.

I am not 10. I am not butthurt. I am not looking to ego-stroke. I will not give up.
You are scum. You can leave. You can get lynched. You can lose.

This is probably the only time I actually agree with Mcqueen. Insulting Mcqueen only makes

my peni

me vote you harder.

[BBmolla]

Kondi your conclusion in that post makes zero sense.

"*town stuff BB did*
*null stuff BB did*
*stuff other people did with BB*

Vot BB"

wut

[BBmolla]

nvm I misread

[BBmolla]

Why

Because Pine has just yelled how scummy BL has been while BL has actually seemed fairly town to me.

[BBmolla]

So

Deadline is tomorrow

Can we figure out our lynch right now so we don't need to deal with deadline claims and such?

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sly

I prefer this over BL and I want to avoid a NL.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Pine

You're still scum and BL still seems town.

[BBmolla]

Would you like to hear it again, I can try to use more explosions.

[BBmolla]

Post

kind of forgot about this game

[BBmolla]

Shouldn't we NL?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Pine

^This needs to happen. Stop fighting it.

[BBmolla]

Oh cool let's set up mislynches, how town of you Pine.

[BBmolla]

GJ TS, I was just lynchbait. Sorry for my poor performance.