NY 150: Mob Money Mafia GAME OVER

[Kise]

I only remember suspecting Damon and voting BL...

NM confirmed mastin?

[Kise]

People thought you were town for something right?

[Kise]

Vote: Damon

Didn't like the implications in your posts before the crash. This was my strongest scumread as well. I voted Bunny for her quick town call on Pine in the QT (pre-game). My judgement tells me to go with what I know and see/saw. Obviously no new scumtells are going to pop up now but your attitude drew my attention, Damon.

[Kise]

Sorry to hear that, Mastin.

My opinion here with regards to the wagon on me is that the town are voting me because they don't like that I had a long argument with the most towny player in the game.

I was playing catch up around the time of the crash. I don't remember anything past page 12 or 13. So, no, but thanks for calling us town.

I have a feeling chk is town. Last time I played with him he was scum and didn't do much by way of direct confrontation, let alone with multiple players.

[Kise]

That's what I'm talking about.. this cheeky ass attitude.

[Kise]

Where's Pine with my apology?

[Kise]

BB, why are you asking?

[Kise]

And if they are?

[Kise]

Oh, and I think I had a scum read on Kise as well but I don't remember why.

My "Confirmed by QT" post, maybe? I had some people jump on me for that when Pine was all "OMG NO, IM IN QT FIRST".

[Kise]

unvote
Vote: Andy

I was thinking kondi was the proper move but I see others prepping suspicion on him. That seems like a DG alternative just being somewhat thrown out there, but not rushed. I'd vote Sly next since Andy isn't bringing up the obvious thing here - Sly pushing a vote on the claimed cop. But, like others have said, not sure if scum would keep pushing to eliminate a cop like this. I've had a lot of experience with scum gambits but I can't figure out an angle Slyscum would be using here, so I don't think he's a baddie.

But onto you, Andy. It's been a week and a half and you've done the cliche cautious play. You're making no impressions and haven't cemented any reads outside of weak modifiers such as 'leaning town' and 'slightly suspicious'. What you DO do (doodoo?) is cool the jets for Sly by making it seem like his push isn't so wrong, hence why I say I'd look into him if you flip scum as there seems to be some kind of damage control going on with the way you're taking DG's claim.

[Kise]

Pine picked up those prods?

[Kise]

nah andy im saying others are prepping suspicion on KONDI

[Kise]

You don't understand the suspicion on you? You don't have to agree with it but you're coming off as if you're townier than thou, when you're not.

Why don't you just claim now? I don't think it'd be considered premature.

Oh, hi Sly.

[Kise]

MOD: Not v/la but you know I'll be busy modding a game elsewhere. Limited activity.

I'll be reading in the morning.

[Kise]

I think I'm taking a break from the site after this game. Just not into it like I used to be.

Also, the current wagons suck.

We need to address this and start by going after Bunny lover again.

What do we get from that, as any alignment Bunny would flip? It lost steam and I'm more convinced Pine is just tunneling. Can you also explain why the wagons suck?

Townie tingles coming from Nacho too. I'm seeing some chainsawwing from Sly. Still ain't getting nothing from andy's post.

What do you need, matt?

Vote: andy

[Kise]

I consider the reasoning used against BBmolla to be faulty and the people on his wagon going after the wrong person just like the people voting Pine and Nacho are going after the wrong person since no one looks particularly scummy.

The wagons look like the people on them need for there to be a wagon..

You've reminded me. Yes, some said they thought it was BBscum. I like Nacho's reason the best because I even got on BB's case day 1. I'm turned off by the hops, but I don't care about the speed at which the wagon took off.

Now can you explain why you want to go back to the Bunny wabbit?

I still don't like andy and Sly, and Sly's chainsaw of BB seems like Nacho is either being warmed up for later, or Sly is deflecting from BB because they're buddies. It's possible the doc didn't protect DG due to thinking Sly's harassment post-claim was some sort of counterclaim.

I'd end up hitting myself if I let andy off the hook, because I always drop the right suspect that gets away in endgame, and I don't feel my suspicion is wrong on him. I could do with voting Sly as well over his bad plays, but

seriously

think andy should be considered the ace card.

[Kise]

I didn't see it. I was pretty busy before the crash, but a different kind of busy than I am now.

[Kise]

unvote; vote: sly

[Kise]

unvote; vote: sly

I sincerely doubt Sly is scum.
It would be a lot easier if he were, but I doubt he is.

Easier to lynch? And if so, don't you mean easier to lynch if he's town?

Vote: andy

And why is this? I see that you've since changed your vote, but I still want to know why

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I still don't like andy and Sly, and Sly's chainsaw of BB seems like Nacho is either being warmed up for later, or Sly is deflecting from BB because they're buddies. It's possible the doc didn't protect DG due to thinking Sly's harassment post-claim was some sort of counterclaim.

I'd end up hitting myself if I let andy off the hook, because I always drop the right suspect that gets away in endgame, and I don't feel my suspicion is wrong on him. I could do with voting Sly as well over his bad plays, but

seriously

think andy should be considered the ace card.

Thank you for stating your suspicion, but I think this is actually the first time you cast your suspicion and vote on me (and I assume you really think I'm scummier than everyone else, since you're calling me "the ace card". Is this assumption correct?)

Read, or iso. No one else is looking your way but me. GG.

Pine had 1 vote, McQueen, maybe 2 from someone else. Where did this 8 votes come from?
Yeah I didn't want to go into a 1 v 1. I'm town, don't know his alignment. If I am wrong about his alignment then I know I will be lynched. Then the question of where my suspicion is coming from comes to mind. Do I think Pine is scum because he is tunneling me which is clouding my mind or is Pine scum because the way he is doing it comes from scum.
Dodging Pine attacks? What attacks? He hasn't said nothing new that hasn't already been stated so what am I dodging?
But I'm tried of wasting time on this.

Unvote
Vote:Bunnylover

Hey now, hold on there. No one likes a self-vote. We’ve got time until the deadline and there is quite a bit that can be discussed before then. No need to give up and try and end the day early. Come on now.

Seems fake.

OS, is that a big towntell for you? Have you not considered how long BL has been in the game and maybe this is a gambit? Seems like a soft reason to cop out.

[Kise]

Sly, andy, OS for me. I have a feeling OS' jump off of Bunny indicates she's town and he wants his hands clean. That seems like a towntell that would be worth something in 2004.

[Kise]

Constant M...

Remember how I use to freak out and get lynched d1? Man I don't miss the newb days.

Nacho =/= she. The 'mamma part of the name is just for flair. If you feel scum would kill you, why are you skirting around a full claim with DL close?

[Kise]

Coming to read this when I wake up