Open 381 - Day 4

[Antihero]

VOTE: Kassadin for being in that game where

I killed myself as Mafia

.

Playing against your wincon? Blasphemy.

VOTE: kondi

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malee

[Antihero]

We're talking about policy lynchings in a game with a vig?

I do not approve.

[Antihero]

Oh, crap. That's right. I only know there's a vig because it says so in my scum role PM. Oops, let it slip.

Vigilante

Welcome, [Player name]! You are a

Town Vigilante

.
Each Night, you may kill one player by PMing their name to the Mod.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.
Please confirm by restating your role via PM.

[Antihero]

no no no no no no no

You don't get to walk away that easily.

If I did actually "slip up," then the implication would be that I'm the town vig. And you voted me anyway.

[Antihero]

no no no no no no no

You don't get to walk away that easily.

If I did actually "slip up," then the implication would be that I'm the town vig. And you voted me anyway.

Oh please no. Just no.

Where does the vote come from?

[Antihero]

/belch

[Antihero]

Because policy vigging is better perhaps?

r u trying to say PL a vigilante is good?

/sigh

This is gonna be a looong game.

Come on people, let's get a wagon going.

Since Malee is scum, preferably on her.

[Antihero]

It's far too early for a bus!

How so? Wouldn't scim want to bus early, stay on their partners wagon for the whole time?

ITT, people can't read between the lines... or the actual lines themselves for that matter.

[Antihero]

I can't believe we are still on this subject. All that we can almost definitely know is that Elmo is not the big. Outside of that we can infer a possible read from that, but I can't fathom how you're getting a scum read from him not knowing there was a vig in the game. If anything it's a null read and maybe even a slight town read. Scum is going to be much more careful with their posting, and I highly doubt any scum would slip on something like not knowing roles.

On the other hand, your insistence on pressuring a non-existent scum tell is suspicious in itself.

... and .... ?

[Antihero]

Does anyone have any idea what the fuck is going on?

No, but I don't think you do either. You followed me onto the Malee wagon, which I had no reason for whatsoever (Elmo did too, but I can't make sense of some of the stuff he posts anyway).

UNVOTE:

Both Kamikrazy and Pizzadude are pinging on the scumdar. Kamikrazy has pooh-poohed a couple people's play without actually moving his vote (a quick look at him in ISO will tell you this; he's actually still got his RVS vote out). Pizzadude because of this post.

VOTE: Pizzadude

[Antihero]

@Antihero - I don't remember much about Kamikrazy, but Pizzadudes7 is a one-liner post kind of player. He is capable of giving reads, as I've seen him do it, he just chooses not to.

ANTIHERO'S OFFICIAL FORM FOR META DEFENSE

LINK TO GAME AS TOWN: _________________

LINK TO GAME AS SCUM: _________________

RELEVANT COMMENTS: ________________________________________

Thank you very much for you time. And if you can't be bothered to give me good meta, please don't bring it up again.

[Antihero]

He's right though. Pizza is a megalurker who never gives content.

Is he in the habit of asking people for clarification or explanation without advancing the game?

There's a difference between VI and scummy.

[Antihero]

I'll post later tonight before I go to sleep.

You keep promising content and not delivering. You need wagoning.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Guy_Named_Riggs

^Need moar votes here and less on dud wagons like the hoko wagon.

[Antihero]

He also always does this.

Can you explain to me why lynching useless people Day 1 is better than lynching scum? If you give me an actual good reason, I might just go with it. Pizza and GNR are never going to do anything.

That's funny, because I think the exact same thing about you.

There

is

a way to differentiate VI behavior and scum behavior. VI's might drop in and say really stupid stuff from time to time that might, in some twisted sense, be viewed as new or contributory (any of you ever played with vezokpiraka?). Town VIs will generally just be useless without apology; scum will be useless while stalling and promising content at some later point in time.

[Antihero]

Promising content later in time is not a scumtell, it's only a mere lazy tell. Get your facts straight, please.

/sigh
Could you not be a condescending ass? Or could you please go back to not talking? Either one would be great.

It's your opinion, not a fact.

Ah! I keep putting catching up on this game off. Im going to try now

These kinds of posts need to stop.

[Antihero]

Limited access for me right now b/c of spring break. Just letting you guys know.

[Antihero]

Since hoko was a scum PR, I don't think mafia would've started bussing him until he dropped the "lol, let's hunt for the scum cop" doozy.

Will have to look at that later, have to go now.

[Antihero]

The inability of people to post in a clear, cohesive way is really making this game a lot more difficult than it needs to be.

Duzn I wasn't making it look like there was something missing there. It was just to show now we have all the information. And what I was mostly getting at is the 2nd line of that quote. But Unless Kondi was the vig (I don't believe this) I think mafia would have killed mcqueen just because.
Either way thinking about it.
VOTE: Kondi He did seem to not like Mcqueen if I remember.

What would not liking mcqueen have to do with your vote? If anything, it makes it seem like you are trying to get rid of the suppossed vig, which makes you scum

VOTE:Elmo

YAY IM BEING CALLED SCUM BY MR LURKY!!

Number of posts don't have anything to do with accuracy of reads, and the fact that you're trying to discredit GNR's accusation by attacking his activity level is scummy.

VOTE: Elmo

[Antihero]

No one's posted since thursday?

lame

this game deserves a good reread though

[Antihero]

My vote sucks, I have to unvote.

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

After rereading, Riggs is obvscum.

Here's my spoonfed "case" just in case anyone wants it.

Antihero's

Awesome

Case

Spoiler: Post 128

I'll post later tonight before I go to sleep.

I called him down on this kind of posting (promising content and never delivering) before and someone pooh-poohed me on it, but I still think it's scummy. Town just don't make this kind of post.

Spoiler: Post 140

I don't see how its town driven, or scum driven for that matter, but the post just strikes me as odd
Vote:mcqueen

The offending post by mcqueen is worthy of being voted, but it's not scummy ("scum driven") or "town driven"? The wishy-washiness of the reasoning combined with the conviction of putting a vote down is scummy. (Calling things "odd" in general is a pretty good scumtell, too)

Spoiler: Post 189

So you want to end the day earlier and end discussion rather than wait?

This was said to mcqueen after he said he would drop the hammer. This is also coming from someone whose commentary is limited to mcqueen. (Both the tunneling on mcqueen and the shit shoveling are scumtells).

Spoiler: Post 203

And if hoko is scum, Riggs is almost certainly one of his partners - he seems to be soft defending him.

Because I noticed that he was the back-up a while ago and was trying to keep him alive?

why?

Don't want to talk about it, but I'm fine now.

Ok. I am the Backup Rolecop. That is why I said I wanted the Mafia Rolecop dead.

This is extremely stupid, and I have a feeling it's real. It wouldn't fit hokorippoi's personality to lie about this.

VOTE: hokorippoi

WTF???? It seems like you don't find hok scummy in the post, then you vote him? Why the vote?

VOTE:McQueen

The rebuttal to briz's soft-defending accusation is a total fail. This post is the first post Riggs made after hoko claimed. Therefore, the chainsaw tunneling on mcqueen is NOT the result of hoko's claim (as Riggs is suggesting in this post).
FAIL DEFENSE IS FAIL.

A similar argument is made in this post:

Spoiler: Post 226

Which was what? Defending what I believed to be a townie (and more accuratly, the back-up cop) and finding mcqueen suspicious?

Spoiler: Post 240

What would not liking mcqueen have to do with your vote? If anything, it makes it seem like you are trying to get rid of the suppossed vig, which makes you scum
VOTE:Elmo

He's up everyone's asses about a "case" on him, but the most he could dredge up for Elmo was that lame-ass brain fart on page 2?
LAME, AND A SCUMMY ENTRANCE TO THE ELMO WAGON

Spoiler: Post 247

@elmo
explain why you voted kondi

Looks like you've found your new guy to tunnel. There's NO FOLLOW UP, AND elmo clearly talked about his vote being the result of NK meta earlier.

Spoiler: Post 272 and 275

@briz, could you explain your case on m again?

Sheeping? Or do you have your own reasons?

Innocent people tend to not ask for cases on themselves.
Scum tend to forgo attacking the accuser for attacks on the evidence; they'll say stuff like "what's your case?"

Riggs needs death. ASAP

VOTE: Riggs

[Antihero]

Kami and hiplop are other good scumcandidates, but Riggs definitely leads the pack.

[Antihero]

Kami is posting in other games and not this one.

/fyi

[Antihero]

EVERYONE UNVOTE RIGGS. AND NOBODY COUNTERCLAIM IF THIS IS A FAKE CLAIM.

Even he's lying, the real vig will shoot him tonight.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Kamikrazy

Scummy soft-claiming is scummy.

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:

Why are we voting Kami? Antihero you really are trying to make Kami look bad, especially after he said why he has been somewhat inactive(btw I saw he was being replaced out of other games, so I tend to believe him). Please point out his scum tell.

We? You mean me, right? Just trying to make poor Kami look bad.

First off, Kami has been posting in other games and not this one (a quick search of his forum posts will prove that). Selective lurking is a scumtell. But that's not even really the part that bothers me.

Scummy soft-claiming is scummy.

This is. If you don't see it, I can't make you see it. Hint: read parts where he's talking about Riggs.

[Antihero]

This riggs/antihero things feels very orchestrated/practised. I don't like it. The fact that he didn't even stop to think that riggs is lying concerns me.

EVERYONE UNVOTE RIGGS. AND NOBODY COUNTERCLAIM IF THIS IS A FAKE CLAIM.

Even he's lying, the real vig will shoot him tonight.

HERP DERP

[Antihero]

I'm pretty obviously town, cmon son

LOLno

[Antihero]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

Click here.
Then click here.
Now read this again.
Seriously, WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS.

THIS IS AN OPEN F'ING GAME. THERE'S 1 VIG, 1 JK, 1 BACK UP ROLECOP ON THE TOWN SIDE.

THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO BY LYNCHED WITH FIRE IS YOU

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hiplop

DON'T THINK YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK, SOFT-CLAIMING SCUM KAMIKRAZY.

[Antihero]

eh sarcasm does kinda fail through text, it was tongue in cheek Sorry about that. Felt I should address that quickly, more coming soon

My ideal lynch today would be riggs, but his vig claim has me concerned a bit - mostly because it's mcqueen who died. This leads my reads kind of into shambles, I've found FuDzn to be scummy, but something tells me he's actually town.

Antihero is almost the exact opposite, and honestly the more I look back, the more he actually looks town. Kamikrazy actually does seem weird, specifically his latest two posts. I'm not sure what antihero is on about with softclaiming, but I do see quite a lot of scum intent, there.

haha

hahahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BACKPEDAL FASTER, SCUM

[Antihero]

This

eh sarcasm does kinda fail through text, it was tongue in cheek Sorry about that. Felt I should address that quickly, more coming soon

Trying to play your failure to read off as "sarcasm"

[Antihero]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

You're going to sit here and try to convince me that the above quote is some kind of joke or sarcasm?

NO

I AM NOT SATED

You saw that I called you scum, and you panicked with a scum-knee-jerk OMGUS vote. You invented a "scumslip" and then tried the "lol, just kidding guiz" when you were called out on it while slowly backing out of your "scumread" on me.

[Antihero]

i was replying to your response of "LOLNO" and "HERP DERP" , I thought it was clearly in jest I can see the confusion though

I'm not talking about the Outsiders reference.

I'm talking about the contrived "scumslip."

notice how I voted before that? It wasn't OMGUS at all. Also see how I still have my vote on you? I just admit you have a decent read on Kamik

I called you scummy before any of this crap transpired.

I claim sole rights to calling your attacks OMGUS.

[Antihero]

My posting in other games is in games that are just starting and as such don't require as much time to read through and think about. I've been replaced in over half of my games; i'm not selectively lurking. I'm just truly busy.

Why do you automatically assume that my soft-claiming is scummy?

Because you're not the cop, and I can prove it using this thread.

[Antihero]

Your post is irrelevant and dumb, why would I waste my time responding to it?

I soft claimed cop and you vote me for being inactive instead of addressing the soft claim?

Wait what? We already have a vig claim and now you casually remark that you are the cop? Why??

FAKE OUTRAGE SENSES TINGLING

[Antihero]

wasn't even talking about you, hiplop <_<

@Kami: Still doesn't explain the "you can lynch Riggs tomorrow" statement.

[Antihero]

Seriously, I'm getting votes because I'm the only one that doesn't have his head up his ass?

It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to deduce that Kami was soft claiming rolecop. It just takes a basic reading comprehension skills. Here, I'll guide ya'll though it.

Kami's whole "GNR isn't a good lynch target" was the soft claim. It's a soft claim because Kami does not give a single reason for it AND it happened to be near the start of the day, suggesting that Kami wants everyone to believe that he had gained extra information over night (and the only role that does that is.... the rolecop). It's soft, because Kami doesn't just come out and say "hey everyone, I'm the rolecop and I got negative results on GNR last night." Everyone get it now?

If not, please replace out and go back to the newbie queue.

Now, the reason I didn't buy it was Kami's post 207 which suggests that he thought hoko might be a mislynch,

which directly contradicts his cop softclaim

. AND Kami saying that "it was OK to lynch riggs tomorrow" also tipped me up to scummy false softclaiming (here). I still actually kind of don't get why a rolecop with a vig result on someone would say such a thing, but whatever.

CONCLUSION: Turns out, it's probably just a case of Kamikrazy and suboptimal PR play. He shouldn't have made post 207, as aggressive VTs call BS on power role claims all the time, and the only thing post 207 ended up doing was make his future breadcrumbing look like scummy softclaiming.

Alright, now reread this post. Everyone on the same page now?

[Antihero]

@Elmo - Sorry for calling you an idiot.

No offence. But seriously lurking usally = scum.
I didn't see the crumb and when I did I thought nothing of it. But either way
UNVOTE: Kami
VOTE: Anti You know why.

No, I do not know why, elmo. Do you?

Is it because you didn't see the crumb? I don't know, but you're wasting everyone's time with this kind of vagueness.

WHY WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS!!!
I think antihero was saying that you had soft claimed scum. I knew that you were the cop and investigated me (why you were so agaisnt it, especially your first post of Day 2). But no one knew for sure until you posted this. Now you just made yourself a target for the mafia night kill

oh jeez,
the level of fail in this game is reaching epic levels (and I don't mean that in a good way).

---

Now, scummiest hop on my wagon was definitely Kassadin. This might just be the result of him not being able to form a single, clear thought all game though. He was late on the hoko wagon at the time of his vote (5th). He sheeped off of briz for his Riggs vote. And his reasonless jump to my wagon stinks of opportunism.

VOTE: Kassadin

Die, scum.

My guess for the other scum would go to Pizzadude or hiplop. Pizzadude lingering around without putting down a vote is scummy and hiplop wanting to debate me about his "sarcasm" a couple pages ago is also scummy (people can't see Kami's softclaim, but people can see the "sarcasm" in this failpost; uh-huh, I guess so)

[Antihero]

I see you at the bottom FuDuzn. You get the thing with Kami now?

I see you, too, Kassadin. Dazzle us.

[Antihero]

Lol. Going for easy targets now?

This =/= a valid argument

I would tell you to try again, but I'll just end up being disappointed.

[Antihero]

FFS

WTF AYTTO NOK

JFNQFEWJFLKSAJFLKDSJAFJSOIFQEWOIF

[Antihero]

Riggs, you are in desperate need of a play style change. You're the scummiest player I've ever played with (and I've played with drmyshottyizsik, chesskid, and SlySly).

[Antihero]

I don't think Kass is scum purely because

he was as anti said 5th on the hoko wagon

. I'd now support a Pizza lynch, he voted kondi as an RVS and didn't change his vote throughout the whole of D1, and has yet to vote in D2, and he hasn't contributed much to the game, posting a fair bit of fluff

VOTE:Pizzadudes7

You know that the later positions on scum wagons tend to be

more

likely to be bussing scum, right?

[Antihero]

/crickets

Nothing?

Did the VI-mobile break down? I guess scum don't know where to go now that Riggs has claimed.

So, Kass, you can't make an argument so you just shut up? Who's taking the "easy" route now?

[Antihero]

Cool bro. now die

Adds to my theory that scum in mafia games act like bad guys on Law & Order.

It's like they can't help themselves...

[Antihero]

/waves at FuDuzn and Kami

Care to join us?

[Antihero]

=======[]

Do it.

[Antihero]

^didn't read the thread

[Antihero]

^maybe read the thread, but his argument doesn't have a leg to stand on and he still sticks to it

[Antihero]

adhom?

No, adhom would be calling you an idiot. I just said your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on (which it doesn't).

Do you have an idea what YOU'RE talking about? What is your argument anyway? Last time I looked, it was based on a misunderstanding of the OPEN setup.

[Antihero]

I am more concerned with Hiplop saying that my posts aren't saying much......and then not giving any examples(and off topic, I would like to know what I possibly am nominated for lol).

I do not think GNR is the right choice here, let's find another target.

Speaking of not saying anything, you have had lot's of time to find somebody better the Riggs to lynch........anybody better come to mind?

Also I see Kondi all over the place, except in this game.

I actually had forgotten Kami was in this game.

erm, its hard to point out something NOT happening. It's mostly like you're rewording things rather than unique content? IDK

Eh it appears I just read a few games that you were in for them haha :$

Kami and hiplop are other good scumcandidates, but Riggs definitely leads the pack.

I'm pretty obviously town, cmon son

This riggs/antihero things feels very orchestrated/practised. I don't like it. The fact that he didn't even stop to think that riggs is lying concerns me.

VOTE: Antihero

Alright, SONNY BOY, where's the argument, now?

[Antihero]

And the fact that Riggs is an non-CC'd vig knocks out the legs from your "orchestrated" argument.

Now what?

[Antihero]

High-five, kondi.

My day just got less annoying.

[Antihero]

no, but I don't think it was town

[Antihero]

How was that hammer fake? You cast the final on him. That's a hammer no matter how you look at it. What is all of this fake hammer stuff?

kondi was already voting Kass at the time.

Ninja'd

[Antihero]

hiplop has been caught scum for quite some time, kondi.

Please try to keep up.

[Antihero]

Well then I guess that means I'm on the right track. Who out of Elmo and

Kami

would you feel better about being his partner?

What the actual fuck?

How about none of the above?

[Antihero]

I thought I was caught scum
How has hiplop been caught as scum? What am I missing?

Your missing the fact that you can't act like a VI and then crap on other people's reads when you get called scum.

[Antihero]

Elmo is probtown.

If Kass isn't scum, my bet would go on a FuD/hiplop scumteam.

[Antihero]

hips makes the town list and kondi and I don't?

WHAT ALTERNATE UNIVERSE DID I JUST ENTER?

[Antihero]

Ah, I see.

/looks at sign

"Universe where half the player list needs to go back to the newbie queue and learn how to play the game."

Ah, thanks hip, got it.

[Antihero]

OH NO, HERE COMES THE LAZY META GAMERS AGAIN

Seriously kondi is an obvtown townie. Try again, maybe?

[Antihero]

Is Antihero a Jora alt?

Why extactly is Kondi obv town? You were asked the question and gave no reason except ALL CAPS GUYS, HEY I AM MAD! And why are you so shocked that people don't think you are town? When people disagree with you you just fling insults at the expense of giving actual content.

And I am playing in a newbie game currently, happy?

Haters gonna hate, I guess.

Also, I'm nobody's alt.

Well then, why doesn't this reasoning apply to content-less Kass, who seems to be a "cool story bro" broken record? As for "content" I have as much of that in my ISO as you do.

And if you all don't want to be insulted, then quit pissing me off. Twice now, I've been called down for "OMG HE KNOWZ THEREZ A VIDGE, SCUMZ!" (that's my best understanding of why hiplop is currently voting me, actually). And if your hang up is really that I didn't explain in depth right then and there my kondi townread, then I really don't know what to tell you.

kondi is obvtown because he's one of few (others are Elmo and briz, who are also obvtown) people who are actually making an honest-looking attempt to scumhunt.

P.EDIT: Actually, if you want to get all pissy about "reasons", what's your "reasoning" for your vote? Because I spotted the Kami softclaim? I already addressed that. Because I won't "explain myself"? Take a look at the playerlist and tell me I'm the worst offender.

[Antihero]

DOUBLE POST

sorry for the clutter, guys

Anyway, just thought of something. If Kass ends up being town, there's no ways kondi is scum. Could any of you really see kondiscum having such a tempting Kasswagon go all the way up to L-1 and then he suddenly decides to derail it? Makes no sense.

Though if Kass ends up flipping scum, I might have to rethink my position on kondi...

[Antihero]

wait, did you just say elmo is actively

trying to find scum

and is

being helpful

?

okay then.

Bolded is true. Underlined might not be so much.

Alright, well FuD is just flippantly dismissing my explanation as "covering my ass" so there's nothing much more for me to say on it.

'Hey guys, I am the only one who saw our role cop soft claim. I think I should call him super scummy so he now has to fully claim role cop.......that has to be a town strategy right? Right??'

No, this is misrepresenting it. At the time, I thought the softclaiming was scummy (already been over why), so I called him on it (of course I'm not going to let it slide until the endgame).

[Antihero]

Oh, please. If I sat and hashed it out before he full claimed, I bet it wouldn't have made a difference to you.

[Antihero]

Look, I saw the softclaiming as scummy up until Kami actually claimed. It looks like you don't. I don't know if it's a fundamental disagreement about what's scummy or if you still don't understand what my argument was, but I really don't care at this point.

There's nothing I can say now if you still don't see the Kami softclaiming as scummy.

[Antihero]

>_> I don't have a problem with caps.

So you don't see how his reaction to the hoko claim, in the context of the softclaim, was scummy?

Glad we got to the bottom of it.

[Antihero]

I said I could prove it using the thread. And I did without anyone else putting words in my mouth...

Whatever, I'm through arguing with you.

[Antihero]

how was it scummy?

and are you kidding me o_O i've said tons of times I just forgot about that post, I'm ovting him for legit reasons ffs

Uh oh, FuD. hiplop is being vague and not explaining his reasons.

[Antihero]

this post has no content

/ohsnap

Don't know what's up with the "every post must have 'content' argument." This argument also seems to only apply to me, too. Not you, Kass, or anyone else.

[Antihero]

Yeah, I know. It's ridiculous, isn't it?

[Antihero]

Yay, a hiplop wagon

@hiplop

Claim?

lol, why are you even bothering asking for one?

[Antihero]

^and the first person who votes me for saying this is getting kicked in the balls

[Antihero]

I hope Riggs realizes by now that his choice of policy vigging wasn't the best one.

Will be hammering hiplop next post. Speak now or forever shut the hell up.

[Antihero]

Honestly? Because this one is easy. There are SOOOOOO many obviously town people that it leaves, like, three or four left. The game is already won.

Really? This one I have to hear before hammering.

Plus I like this playerlist.

lol, good one

[Antihero]

Who are the three/four people?

[Antihero]

Ah, I see. And Kass fell out the picture because, I don't know, his null response to his own "hammer" I guess.

I could see Pizzascum too, but he's making himself unreadable.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hiplop

[Antihero]

Actually, the only teams I could see that are smart enough to realize this involve FuDuzn or Anti... or MAYBE briz. Hmm.

UNVOTE:

Awwwwwww, you're so sweet

[Antihero]

Alright, I started off rough, but I can redeem myself and finish this right.

[Antihero]

Alright, I started off rough, but I can redeem myself and finish this right.

WE CAN DO THIS!

People who I'm absolutely unwilling to entertain the idea of being scum at the moment:

FuDuzn
Guy_Named_Riggs

Unlikely to be scum (my opinion):

Elmo TeH AzN
brizingre1
kondi2424 (upgraded to top list if Kassadin is town)

Everyone else:

Pizzadudes7
Kassadin

I would actually bet that the scumteam is made of up one from the bottom list and one from the middle list.

[Antihero]

Alright, after that, does anyone need any more proof that FuD isn't scum? Scum don't banter on about their night actions like he just did. They just don't.

If Pizza is scum, Elmo's scumstock just went up.

[Antihero]

Yeah, same here.

[Antihero]

hiplop

- kondi2424, brizingre1, FuDuzn,

Kamikrazy

, Elmo TeH AzN, Antihero
Antihero -

hiplop

, FuDuzn, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin
Kassadin - Antihero,

Kamikrazy

, kondi2424, brizingre1, Elmo

hoko

- brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, FuDuzn,

hiplop

,

Kamikrazy

,

mcqueen

Antihero = 2/3
FuDuzn = 2/4
Kassadin = 2/3
Elmo = 3/3
briz = 2/4
kondi = 1/4
Pizza = 0/4 (but then again, he hasn't been participating in this game from the get go)

If you're town, pizza, I hope you now see the importance of voting. Because now, I have absolutely nothing from you.

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Elmo is late on all three wagons (one of them you all know to be town, two of them I know to be town). ...and he's early on the scum one...

...and now he's late on another one (pizza's)... And kassadin is now a miraculous town read after he was just voting him.

If you can't tell I've not been keeping up with this game...

Antihero
FuDuzn

brizingre1
Kassadin
kondi2424
Elmo TeH AzN

Pizzadudes7

Guy_Named_Riggs

This doesn't add up. There's then 1 scum. Not 2.
Ill support Pizza or Anti today thats all.
VOTE: Pizza

What does the blue mean?
And I guess you think town's going to revert back to my wagon now? Nice try.

VOTE: Elmo_teh_azn

[Antihero]

When did you start going on kondi's reads? And if you were going on his reads, you would have me and FuD in green.

Try again?

[Antihero]

Nah, I don't think you're scum with pizza.

What "doesn't add up"?

[Antihero]

Nah, I don't think you're scum with pizza.

What "doesn't add up"?

There are 2 scum left.

If pizza is one and Im not scum with Pizza whos the last one then?

No, no, no. Not playing this game with you, especially seeing that you haven't given pizza's "partner" yourself.

We'll get your partner soon enough.

[Antihero]

Like hell. We're playing this game and that's how this is going.

You broached the topic, so you should tell us all who Pizza's "scumbuddy" is before demanding everyone else's read.

[Antihero]

kondi, give it up. Kass has proven that he is unable to form a coherent sentence, and has yet to show any evidence of being able to read and comprehend what's going on in the thread.

I'm not demanding anything. And I'm not asking for everyone elses read just yours.

I'm going to guess briz. But then again we have 2 unreadables in the mix, they're great.

[Antihero]

Anti seems to be totally different today and less angry today

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm still pretty pissed at some of this playerlist (not you, don't worry). I'm just suppressing the urge to caps lock rage at a couple people.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=21427 Here's the magical link to the Kassadin scum game. I can almost guarantee that you will learn nothing from this.

[Antihero]

I'm not one, am I?

No, they're people that either a) make themselves completely unreadable through an antitown play style, b) people who completely disregard common sense, c) people who are apparently unable to read the thread, and/or d) people who can't form coherent sentences.

But enough about something I can get to at the endgame. Why aren't you voting Elmo?

[Antihero]

Where did I say that? I just said I didn't think it was Elmo and Pizza.

I thought Pizza was scum a long time ago for active lurking and not having a vote out, but apparently that's what he usually does. >_>

[Antihero]

We don't have a vig ability anymore, people. Making vig suggestions is useless.

[Antihero]

because I don't think he's scum

[Antihero]

I know that I look bad if pizza flips scum, but /mehdontcare

pizza's flip is pretty much going to be a coin toss, and anyone acting otherwise is being disingenuous

[Antihero]

He said the statement because the Mafia have a Jailkeeper who will likely be stopping GNR's kill. But he isn't taking into account that we could lynch their Jailkeeper today. This implies that he knows that won't happen today.

Seriously, not even close to a scumslip. I could I

know

something won't happen today, as any alignment? The only thing I know is that Riggs isn't getting lynched today. I didn't know we were in the mindset of "X player isn't getting lynched today" unless X is riggs.

But keep up with that mentality, and I don't even think we're going to lynch mafia today, much less the jailkeeper (and yes, riggs, kondi got it right as to why I said that).

[Antihero]

Your reasoning is wrong though. Your partner in that situation could be the Jailkeeper and a high town read by many, and therefore you know they won't be lynched today.

Please tell me who fits into this situation, besides.... you.

[Antihero]

FuD, possibly. But briz? I think there are several people that think he might be/is scum (I'm one of them).