Open 396 - Democracy Ho! (D3)

[Staeg]

I like how I can recognize all the names on this playerlist.

I like how I recognize one name on this playerlist.
Speaking of which.

Vote: OmNom

[Staeg]

Omnom, is there any link to some of your scumgames that hasn't been eaten by tigers?

[Staeg]

Oh, if we're talking about whose names I've seen around the forums, I kinda know everyone but chrimi. And now that I think of it, I played in a MM game with 2b1s.

[Staeg]

Oh, if we're talking about whose names I've seen around the forums, I kinda know everyone but chrimi. And now that I think of it, I played in a MM game with 2b1s.

MM is mishmash, right? I've never posted in Mish Mash.

Interesting...

Ummmmm
Oh, it was bird1111. Welp.
Anyhow - you being familiar with his scum meta would be kinda useful, if your sample size wasn't only 1 game. Have you seen him play in other forums or are you REALLY convinced that omnom can't fake his townmeta/change his scummeta?

And last but not least, *ahem* it was me who started the wagon on conftown and didn't unvote. I want my conftown status now!

[Staeg]

Vote: Om of the Nom

Last game, I was scum with him, he knows my scumplay.

This means that scum-me would never vote him, it'd be very scummy of me to do so.

Woo, I'm conftown.

I think Om of the Nom is playing to his town meta.

Unvote: Om of the Nom

Awesome, that's two conftowns one page in.

Vote: Psyche

, for sheeping a wagon on conftown.

He said "was scum with him," but whatevs. He also said that he thinks you're playing to your town meta, which would mean that he knows your scum meta to some extent.

[Staeg]

Sorry, misworded. I was scum, he was town.

My points still stand.

Hmmm, Staeg is now demanding conftown status? That's... that's not very towny.

Unvote
Vote: Staeg

So, how about that meta thing?

[Staeg]

Why can't I be the confirmed town here? I was the victim of a possible scum slip.

For one, you ARE the conftown which spawned other conftown, and for two, what?

[Staeg]

2b1s could have made a scumslip by trying to link himself to me using incorrect information.

I doubt it. I do dislike his fetish for not answering questions that actually matter.

unvote
Vote: 2b1s

[Staeg]

2b1s, you can't say "I think x is playing to his town meta" without knowing x's scum meta. They could be the exact same, or they could be similar but having a subtle difference that you can't notice without closer inspection.
And, omnom, him assuming conftown status was rvs shenanigans.

[Staeg]

I know. I'm just not sure about why was that a point in your case at all.

[Staeg]

Ooh, this guy has theoretical background.

The three pages complete write now will only serve as fodder for pareidolia - the biased perception of vague and trivial stimuli as significant — that will lead to further pareidolia, and maybe something more later on.

Om's a really nice guy, but your buddying (+1, Psyche!) seems less harmless. So far, you give off slightly more scummy vibes. But I don't think buddying is a valid scumtell anyhow (everyone, not just scum, seeks political capital in this game, and often unconsciously), so I'm probably just rationalizing an emotional uneasiness with your posts, which may or may not be a valid source of knowledge.

Blah, blah.

tl;dr: I got nothing, but I'ma make somethin'.

Why did both chrimi and psyche (re)enter the thread without saying anything that has something to do with anything? There was a fair bit of stuff to comment on.

[Staeg]

@2b1s: No, Chrimi doesn't normally act like this, but the games I'm playing with him are ongoing so I can't say much. However, meta side his posts are lackluster and full of nothing. Discussion has already started happening and he has provided nothing to further it.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Chrimi
Also "buddying" basically means acting in a certain way to another player to try and get them on your side.

@Staeg: You basically just did the exact same thing.

No, there wasn't anything that I could actually comment on without ruining the intent of the OP, while there was stuff for chrimi/psyche to comment on (namely, 2b1s' attack on you and my attack on him).

[Staeg]

Oh wow, I wasn't expecting it to be this easy.
Calling it now, 2b1s and Chrimi scumteam.

Nice OMGUS btw.

Yeah, I can go with this.
Psyche is still "welp" atm.

[Staeg]

Psyche, you just posted a wallpost that was basically "I thought so, too, but maybe not!" ctrl+C+P'd about 6 times. Your theory about 2b1s doesn't stand, either: for one, this is a 7p game as opposed to the other one being 13p with 3 scum in it. The way he explained his confusion was sincere, you say? If it was a scum ploy, I'm fairly sure he would know how would he go about it.

[Staeg]

Player count is indeed something that you don't notice at first, but after only 5 people have posted for over 2 days, one would check the OP.
Oh, and someone asked what welp means -- welp. It's kinda "oh. well. yeah." Fancy way of saying blegh.

[Staeg]

Having seen this particular event? No, I'd assume he's more likely to be town. However, he's already scummy.

[Staeg]

Besides how was I even supposed to know that was a serious question and not you trying to troll me?

It's fairly obvious that he WAS trolling you and still is trolling you.

[Staeg]

No, psyche, 2b1s is not conftown. Omnom is very likely to be. You are quite likely to be.

vote: 2b1s

[Staeg]

Wait, yes he is confirmed. Mafia need to pick which players are up for nomitation for D2, 2b1s wasn't here for that.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Psyche

For one, you have to send in some premature list since this is instant night, and for two, you need only 1 mafioso to send in the list.

[Staeg]

I'm fairly sure that A) that's silly but I'll ask the mod anyway B) if prolapsed brain is the scumpartner (or even anyone else who was present), he knew who was lynched.

[Staeg]

Okay, will repeat this question in public to avoid shenanigans

Mod, can the scum make hypothetical statements?
Are the scum forced to make a premature nomination in case of a quicklynch?
What happens if they submit a premature list, but one of the 3 nominees gets lynched?

[Staeg]

...so it's entirely possible that this list is completely random. Welp.

[Staeg]

It's a gut read my friend.

Surely it still came from something, seeing as it's a sudden realization?

[Staeg]

And you noticed that only, what was it, 4 hours ago? What made you realize as much?

[Staeg]

Om, have you played with town-psyche?

[Staeg]

Erm. That punctuation threw me off.

[Staeg]

VOTE: Psyche
Sudden revelations tell me Psyche is scum.

But you're both equally scummy in my eyes.

The what now?

@Psyche - your early posting was uhh-ish, but the wall that followed was mostly good and everything from there on made sense. Omnom is just doing omnom-things and was playing like usual, but then again, I've never seen him as scum (oh, and he hasn't seen me as town so, again, don't come at me with the "hrmmm, stag seems to be scum for doing what he did before...").
I'm also now coming to the conclusion that this is an all-town ticket to lylo due to 2b1s being, well, townie.

[Staeg]

Uhh, yeah, BaM doesn't work, and kami won't get modkilled until the end of the day, anyway. Erm.

[Staeg]

12.) If you do not post for the equivalent of a full game day (at least six days long) you will be modkilled

at the end of the day

. Further, you will be blacklisted from any future games using the BaM ruleset. Keep in mind that there are no replacements for flaking in a BaM ruleset game. Other circumstances requiring replacement are up to the mods discretion.

[Staeg]

As I said, the lurkers won't get modkilled until the end of the day, even if they lurk out the 6d period... sadly...

[Staeg]

Well, technically a townflip in the middle of a day would have to end it (which makes the town unable to lynch), and a scumflip would be, well, a scumflip. However

Mod: the BaM ruleset states that a lurker is modkilled after 6 days of no posting. Does the modkill occur at the end of the actual game day or the 6-day period?

(by reviewing the 12th rule I noticed that it's AT LEAST 6 game days, so it's definitely at the end of the day if no posts were made)

[Staeg]

I'm not lurking. I'm BUSY.

From what I've seen in your posting history, you've been busy ever since you joined your first game. Correct?

[Staeg]

Uhh don't hammer. If you hammer a townie and it really is some combination of pbrain+x, we outright lose.

[Staeg]

No, I want to do something here (and now that I actually think of it, it won't matter in the end). Perhaps pbrain can actually do something.

[Staeg]

So wait, do we want a No-Lynch (from deadline) or not?

I'm fairly sure we can't since that would abuse the nomination mechanic.
Snd who are you going to hammer, anyway? Noone's at L-1.

[Staeg]

No, I'm voting 2b1s and pbrain and kami are herrderr.

unvote

[Staeg]

Oh, no.

kuribo is here.

Whatever shall I do.

Actually, uhh, i dunno... do shit instead of wasting what little time you seemingly have?

[Staeg]

I took it that this

anyway, having read this game, I am literally happy with lynching anyone but Staeg.

is kuribo's thoughts on the game. Tbqh, it's enough (and way more than what certain people have done, winkwinknudgenudge).

[Staeg]

I don't think I'll be in another nomination game again, either.

NomGambit?

I don't have as low an opinion of 2b as you seem to, and nor do I find him scummy. I actually find Staeg a better lynch than him, but you know. Nomination.

I feel like settling for an Om lynch. What do you think of him?

Scuse me, but if 2b1s is conftown, what do you mean by "settle"? You can't nolynch, and I'd presume that you wouldn't want to be lynched, either.

[Staeg]

Vote: 2birds1stone

Obvscum is obv.

amirite?

Bzzzt. Would it physically HURT you to post more than 50 letters on a weekly basis?

@psyche, yes, but that much is obvious. You cant get to your preferred lynch choices yadda yadda. But "I feel like" implies that you have a choice, one that you've thought about, which doesn't line up with the situation.

[Staeg]

I'm still here. Ish.

vote pbrain

Blacklisted. I never thought I would, but blackkkkkklisted.

Aside from the obvious reason why you would do this if he's town - what if he's scum? What has he done wrong by sacrificing himself to bring his partner to 3-p lylo?

[Staeg]

I'm still here. Ish.

vote pbrain

Blacklisted. I never thought I would, but blackkkkkklisted.

Aside from the obvious reason why you would do this if he's town - what if he's scum? What has he done wrong by sacrificing himself to bring his partner to 3-p lylo?

How does his sacrificing himself improve his chances of his partner getting to LYLO? Regardless of his alliance, his play has been poor. More importantly, it has been infuriating. If it weren't for his last post, I'd think he was just terrible town, but now it's impossible to think so. He is scum and there's no doubt about it.

Erm. Derp. I somehow assumed scum had a nightkill after today's lynch.

[Staeg]

Vote: OmNom

Yeah I'm okay with this.

[Staeg]

This was actually quite probably too evil, and I'm an evil person for having so much fun with it

[Staeg]

it was staeg's idea to nominate you yesterday, wasn't it?

Nope - I had submitted a meh-ish premature list and was asleep when PB trollhammered.

[Staeg]

To be honest, if PB hadn't trollhammered, I would've suggested we put up the both of us for nomination. But well.
Aside from that -- the town had nothing they could do against PB after what he did D1. We weren't going to nominate him D2 and he would just go hurrr D3 (just like it happened). You couldn't lynch him, either, since he was town and all that.

[Staeg]

Oh hey I just checked my PM and I'm actually town, lol
Kuribo's probscum
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no
I liked the part about ants and dicks

[Staeg]

Have at it. I don't think psyche will mind.
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/AfifZDLXUgZ6

[Staeg]

Maybe you should continue

finding scum

with your totally arbitrary vibe system, but once you locate scum, look for a real case that makes enough sense to get him lynched. The case might not be why you're voting for the scum, but it'll be why others do.

This is doomed to end in failure at some point (what with the points being ingenuine and all that). How sure are you that people are scum? You can simply go with the "GUYSSS HES SCUM" every second-or-so post, and either A) people will lynch them in that gane or B) you at least found a reputation of being right in your gut reads.