Open 431 - Sword Swallowing - Game Over

[Scigatt]

Happy birthday saulres!

Anyway, first game on here since January and that game was kind of lost because of the crash.

Vote: Scigatt

For participating in the stanley cup riot.

I was home that day. You can't prove anything!

Vote:splitfarvle

for being the other person here who /in'd to 432.

[Scigatt]

RQS for Scigatt...

Do you like hockey/the Canucks?

(I'm from Vancouver by the way so I'm not some random guy from Florida or something accusing you of rioting.

It's complicated.

[Scigatt]

So this has started..

VOTE: Om

Yes, I do want fries with that.

Is there any other reason for that vote?

[Scigatt]

RQS for Scigatt...

Do you like hockey/the Canucks?

(I'm from Vancouver by the way so I'm not some random guy from Florida or something accusing you of rioting.

Any scumhunting justification for this question?

[Scigatt]

Okay lets get out of RVS before July ends, at least.

@Scigatt
I asked you because your location says Vancouver, so no. Also note the word "random" in RQS.

@splitfarvle
I'm a human.

What did you think I was trying to do?

DOWN WITH POTATOES!

BURN THE HERETIC!

Are you gonna continue making useless posts?

[Scigatt]

When? Right now you are interrogating me and before... I dunno. "It's complicated" came from facebook. So should I ask you "any scumhunting justification for this question?" Right now you're just asking weird questions. Do you play like this in all games?

Posts 17 and 19 were asking for the relevance of what's quoted w.r.t. scumhunting. If that's not trying to get out of RVS, then what is?

[Scigatt]

Progressing the RVS.

Who's the best player in this group? Let's lynch that person...

On second thoughts, no, bad idea. We want a choice for scums between confirmed innocents and townie players.

What confirmed innocents? Unless you think the scum are extremely ballsy/stupid, there will be effectively none.

[Scigatt]

If we lynch anyone and they don't die, they're confirmed innocent. Those confirmed innocents. If that person is also a VI, it's not necessarily scums best interest to shoot them.

But that creates a 'backlog' of confirmed innocents, which would be dangerous in lylo for the scum.

[Scigatt]

I'm gonna link you to the wiki because you don't understand what RQS is: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=RQS

I was trying to get us out of it. That's all we need now.

[Scigatt]

Post.

Very funny.

[Scigatt]

Everybody, calm down and cool your jets. We're not gonna get anywhere with arguments over joke claims and styles of play.

LOL.
That was such an obvious joke claim.
As if you would have taken it seriously.

If it was a joke claim, why expect serious discussion on it?

Yeah I'd policy lynch you. I've seen people act like this as scum anyway.

Your posts suck. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Are you just simply ignoring posts 50 and 52 here? You also seem to drop the OMGUS reasoning fairly fast, or am I mistaken?

If you think I'm actually scum, stop pussying out and just fucking vote me.

You're expecting him to put you in L-1?

That's a policy lynch anyways. It will provide the truth.

My vote is no longer rvs based.

So are you just looking for a policy lynch, or do you actually think he's scummy?

Nothing says you aren't scum.

See, this is why we need to calm down. You start using logic that will get everybody lynched if you don't.

[Scigatt]

Still on V/LA, but managed to read over the thread a few times. At the moment can make one post here.

So this has started..

VOTE: Om

Yes, I do want fries with that.

Is there any other reason for that vote?

This useless questioning that Scigatt is doing first strikes me as scummy because I see NO use to his obvious questions. However, people often see no use to MY scumhunting questions, so...

When? Right now you are interrogating me and before... I dunno. "It's complicated" came from facebook. So should I ask you "any scumhunting justification for this question?" Right now you're just asking weird questions. Do you play like this in all games?

This line of questioning was exactly what I was thinking, but I was reading this knowing you guys lynched Thomas for no reason and going "uuuuuuuuuugh."

I was getting pretty anxious about ending RVS, and that was the motivation underlying those questions.

@Mod: Can you PLEASE not hide the flips behind spoiler text? The device I'm using to read the thread 99% of the time has no means of text selection, meaning I can't read what it says. I did not know until a few minutes ago that Thomas flipped town and was the nightkill.

Meh, you could have figured out what probably happened from the non-spoilered text and the fact that people weren't calling for my head, but that's neither here nor there. Also, you haven't answered Amrun's question from post 86. Why did you change your suspicion so fast anyways?

@TheShadow and Siveure DtTrikyp: Why did you think a policy lynch was a good idea?

@Mod: Can you PLEASE not hide the flips behind spoiler text? The device I'm using to read the thread 99% of the time has no means of text selection, meaning I can't read what it says. I did not know until a few minutes ago that Thomas flipped town and was the nightkill.

But this seems like a towntell.

No it doesn't. It seems like an attempt to push a null tell as a town tell. This is enough to decide between TheShadow and Siveure DtTrikyp for now.

Vote:TheShadow

My current best guess for the scumteam is TheShadow and splitfarvle.

[Scigatt]

Consider me out of V/LA.

Re: the quickhammer. It is my style to drop a hammer like that on someone I feel is scummy even before a claim. If they're null to me I'll declare intent and allow for claim first.

wut
plz don't do that anymore in future games


Will respond to other stuff once *insert thing here* happens (shouldn't be too long).

Would you mind telling us what that thing is?

[Scigatt]

@Om of the Nom: Why does post 94 look like a town post, other than the mod request?

[Scigatt]

Also,
@TheShadow: You haven't answered the questions in my post 103.
@Everyone: I'm thinking that when Siveure DtTrikyp made the L-1 vote, he couldn't have known that a hammer was coming, unless him and TheShadow were co-ordinating. It just seems risky for scum to make that move for a some chance at a mislynch, while the hammer vote is guaranteed in ending the day. If this is stupid, tell me.
@Om of the Nom: How scummy do you think is TheShadow's stance on quickhammering stated in post 112?

[Scigatt]

@Mod:Can we get a prod on Amrun, and maybe TheShadow?

[Scigatt]

TheShadow doesn't really need a prod for another two hours.

I said maybe.

[Scigatt]

No it doesn't. It seems like an attempt to push a null tell as a town tell. This is enough to decide between TheShadow and Siveure DtTrikyp for now.

How does it seem like a null tell? It Shadow was scum, he'd know who the nk was. Also is this really the best case you have for voting Shadow over Siv? What is your read on Siv?

I read those posts a few times when it was spoilered and highlighted the posts more thane once anyways. It doesn't have to be a informational thing, it could be more of an impulse thing.

[Scigatt]

I'm here, just nothing happening so there's been nothing to comment on.

@TheShadow: You haven't answered the questions in my post 103.

[Scigatt]

Erm, V/LA over.

Sorry saulres.

I think shadow could well be just a lazy town newbie. He could very well be scum, but meh...

Actually, that sort of quickhammer would be lazy scum, and he has obviously been lazy.

VOTE: TheShadow, not splitfarvale.

Wasn't your vote already on TheShadow?

[Scigatt]

Quick opinions in other players, from game reread.

TheShadow: Bad D1 hammer, bad justification of D1 hammer(post 112), avoiding questions(My questions on post 103, only a partial answer to Amrun's questions post 86). I'd be happy with lynching him right now, if we could agree to it.

splitfarvle: Very little to go on here, but I thought his towntell on TheShadow was bad.

Om of the Nom: I'm liking most of his play so far, but the sudden jump off of TheShadow's wagon on post does make me wonder.

Amrun/Xalxe: Nothing really scummy here. For future reference, though, when you replace into a game, unvote immediately.

P-edit: This seems to vindicate splitfarvle to a small degree, at least. I'd put him level with Om of the Nom now on my suspect list.

UNVOTE RIGHT THE FUCK NOW UNLESS YOU ENJOY QUICKHAMMERS PLEASE

If you read the thread, you'll see he kinda does.

[Scigatt]

I just reread Scigatt's latest post and I don't like how he has 3 different suspects.

There are 2 scum still alive. Unless you want me to nail the scum team precisely, I'm gonna need 3 suspects.

[Scigatt]

The manner in which you did it though, makes me think you could be setting yourself up to jump on ay of them later.

At the time of posting 169, you and splitfarvle were pretty much tied, but your post 175, and re-assessment of your D3 posts puts you ahead of him. The fact that you seem unwilling to even consider TheShadow as scum bothers me.

[Scigatt]

A large part of my case on split was inactivity and lack of content. I'll wait and see what funky has to say.

It's LYLO and that's seriously the best you can do?

Tbh, he had four fucking posts to work with. What kind of case can you make with that?

I still want him dead, though.

[Scigatt]

@Everyone:The scum could also have been suspicious that it was a trap. Seeing as scum cannot co-ordinate during the day, they may have been afraid that with a long enough time between their two votes, TheShadow could pulled the rug out from under the first voter and unvote.

[Scigatt]

Also, I'd like to note that I'm feeling a bit unwell lately. I think I can play thorough it here, though, and I wouldn't want to put someone new in at this stage of the game.

[Scigatt]

We need to get this game going. I suggest we call out our likeliest scum pairing.

I think it's Om of the Nom and TheShadow.

[Scigatt]

I think the lack of discussion means everyone's made their decision and is just waiting for someone to make the first move.
VOTE: TheShadow
If nobody's going to man up and vote him, I guess I will. I'm sick of waiting any longer. I want a scum lynch now.

I'm prepared to wait a little bit longer. We still have about a week before deadline.

[Scigatt]

No point in waiting now anyway, just vote

What are you trying to imply here?

[Scigatt]

Or maybe I'm implying we should both vote funkybike1 in our next post and quickhammer for teh winz

Okay, this post just makes me want to lynch you.

[Scigatt]

VOTE: funkybike1

Damnit, Om of the Nom.

Vote:funkybike1

[Scigatt]

VOTE: funkybike1

If you were gonna make this vote anyways, you could have done it post 172.

[Scigatt]

I was nervous you weren't going to be around. The delay between my vote and yours made my heart pound at 50km/h.

I thought we agreed to keep up up the act.

Anyways, you had splitfarvle as your prime suspect at that point. I didn't. My jump on as second vote would have asked more questions.

[Scigatt]

I was nervous you weren't going to be around. The delay between my vote and yours made my heart pound at 50km/h.

I thought we agreed to keep up up the act.

Anyways, you had splitfarvle as your prime suspect at that point. I didn't. My jump on as second vote would have asked more questions.

EBWOP:
*raised more questions.

[Scigatt]

How hard is it to NOT FUCKING VOTE IN LYLO OUT OF THE BLUE?

GG scum. This is probably the first game I lost without making a single post before the game ended.

Who was your suspected scum team?