Open 439 - Less Pressure - Final

[Trevor]

I knew it. I just knew it. I was gonna RVS voided. I had it typed out, then I had to leave for a few minutes. I had it planned out from when I saw the full playerlist for this game.

Meh, I don't care.

VOTE: Voidedmafia

For screwing up the modding in my first game.

Vote: Siveure DtTrikyp

Don't care

[Trevor]

Here's the thread from the post that starts the whole confusion.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=336

And yeah, we need more people to post loads. Or at least a little bit more than they have already.

You can't really say that when all you've posted is RVS and filler.

Vote: noctis

Worst RVS vote by far. I'm willing to get off Siveure because of his "effort" for now.

[Trevor]

I'm waiting for what noctis has to say. Townread on Siveure

[Trevor]

5 days people. Where the fuck are noctis and jaden. I don't have a read on pretty much anyone.

[Trevor]

Okay. Two things. Firstly, something strikes me kinda off about trevor after rereading for votes.

So, what strikes you off about me?

[Trevor]

I can definitely see where you're coming from with regards to Trevor. He seems to expect the world from everyone, and is participating very little himself.

Also, Siveure, regarding wagons: It can often be a valuable source of information to see someone's response under the pressure of a wagon.

For now:
VOTE: Trevor

I haven't had enough time or motivation to "participate" more. I think you are exaggerating my requests for more activity, especially earlier in the game.

I'm waiting for what noctis has to say. Townread on Siveure

Why Townread, Trevor? What do you expect Noctis to say?]

His play up to that point was lacking of carefulness or conservativeness.
Anything, but he had been completely unreadable up to that point.

5 days people. Where the fuck are noctis and jaden. I don't have a read on pretty much anyone.

Why that's good to know. And it's very helpful too.
Now, why would you acknowledge 5 Days to deadline and ask where Noctis and Jaden is, if you don't expect anything from them?
You just saying those to look Town, and get credits for saying things others know already?
Trevor on my scum-list too.

I'm going to tell you the truth. I couldn't read anyone based on only what had been said up to that point.
Why would I not expect anything out of them if I had acknowledged the fact that they were not being active at that point?
The third line is just a stupid conclusion that doesn't even make sense.

[Trevor]

3 scums? 3 SCUMS? Setup read fail on my part.

Vote: ImJaden

Reread over Siveure, still feeling him as town. His posts have this "town aura", they don't look manufactured.

I don't really want to get noctis as he hasn't done anything, could be indicative of an uncaring townie or simply a flaked player. There are other scums to get first.

[Trevor]

Pretty sure PM/OotN is town. noctis might be town, but the interaction between shotty and nocits does not seem like scum-scum. Jaden or Siveuere is still my choice of lynch.

[Trevor]

Vote: DMS

Too close to the deadline unless a bunch of people would be willing to switch to Jaden. OotN is definately town though

[Trevor]

You should seriously unvote me now.

Vote: Jaden

[Trevor]

Voided, I'm pretty sure it's not om.

That leaves Trevor/Jaden/Noctis as scums.

Also, it IS LyLo. While the chances of a triple quickhammer by scum is low, we don't want to lose if it does happen.

Also, one of the first two will be? Will be what?

PEdit: BOTH of you unvote.

FoS: Trevor (in lieu of a vote).

AKA "I'm here and ready to vote Trevor, if any partners are ready".

[Trevor]

??? Excuse me?

Anyway, who are my theoretical partners?

Right now, I'm leaning towards Jaden and noctis, but I'm less sure about noctis/OotN. Doesn't matter, since we only need 2 scum dead.

The "??? Excuse me?" is a scum reaction btw.

[Trevor]

There's already more than enough evidence that dictates that he is making up reads, refuses to answer for things

I've make up reads based on my best guess at the time of the post.

Only thing I haven't answered that I can find is whether or not I have any previous games where I accidentally misread the setup. Answer's no, didn't think it was that useful. I thought there were two scum this game until someone pointed differently.

[Trevor]

So you're saying you wing it and hope a read sticks?

Isn't all scumhunting just "winging it" hoping you are right? It is essentially educated guessing from analysis.

[Trevor]

Called Siv scum because I poe'd him with OotN being my townread.

Jaden just hasn't done anything and has avoided being on the spotlight.

[Trevor]

@nocits, I'm leaning that way but am still not completely sold on OotN being town. Fortunately we only need two scum lynches and one scum lynch will give us plenty of new reactions to work with.

@OotN: If you are so sure, why don't you vote? Why are so many people holding back from voting?

[Trevor]

Why not Jaden?

[Trevor]

Define "real scumhunting" and "air" because I disagree with both of those assessments. Besides, even if what you said is true, that is easily indicative of a weak scumhunting townie.

[Trevor]

Siveure is an obvious scumbuddy. Why would he unvote if he'd already put all of his faith on a lylo vote. Just more stalling and distancing.

[Trevor]

Why would BK have tried to quickhammer Siv if he were scum too?

For the exact same reason you are reading Siv as town?

[Trevor]

I'm going to look over this game when I have more time tomorrow. I still think OmoftheNom is town because of Morton's selfvote/force replace.

[Trevor]

I suggest you unvote if you are town.

[Trevor]

Still not sure about Siv vs OotN. Both of them have towny aspects. Siv's interaction with the dead scum and PMysterious's seflvote/replacement.

Vote: noctis

Pretty sure of this.

[Trevor]

Ew. Why noctis?

Also, who's the second scum?

You are saying that it's me/OotN?

[Trevor]

Ew. Why noctis?

Also, who's the second scum?

Still not sure about Siv vs OotN

. Both of them have towny aspects. Siv's interaction with the dead scum and PMysterious's seflvote/replacement.
Pretty sure of this.

[Trevor]

Then why aren't you voting noctis?

[Trevor]

Way to make yourself obvious. If you think it is me/noctis, why do you refuse to vote noctis?

[Trevor]

Trevor, are you scum?
noctis, are you scum?

no, yes

[Trevor]

Rach and Siveure are scum. If you need any proof that Om is town, read PMysterious's force replacement.

[Trevor]

Rach and Siveure are scum. If you need any proof that Om is town, read PMysterious's force replacement.

PM is useless as fuck and sometimes just as stupid. His force replacement is only a big bunch of null.

So? Useless+stupid does not equal scum. In fact, if he was stupid, it would make him even less likely to be a selfvoting scum.

Argh, I just wanna vote someone, but I can't decide who

Hurry up and pick Rach, time's running out

[Trevor]

YOU HAVE TWO HOURS TO FUCKING VOTE RACHMARIE OR YOU LOSE. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND. STOP SITTING ON YOUR HANDS AND VOTE SOMEONE. YOU KNOW I AM OBVIOUS TOWN AND YOU KNOW YOUR ONLY CHANCE OF WINNING THIS GAME IS TO VOTE RACHMARIE.

THIS IS FOR BOTH VOIDEDMAFIA AND OMOFTHENOM.

[Trevor]

Then why did none of you vote Siv if you all had scumreads on him?

[Trevor]

So you thought your major scumread was bussing his partner at lylo? Why did you do nothing before the deadline was an issue?