Okay so, last night I said I'd read this game sober today. Mistake. Big Mistake. I now need a drink.
Holy fuck you guys. My head literally hurts from the amount of times my head hit my fucking desk. Like sheer drudgery. And I'm going to just randomly throw a few fucks in here because I want to make sure my quotient has been fulfilled. Like seriously, was some of this shit necessary?
Dayvig stuff was stupid. Like, seriously. Pages on nothing but the day vig. And terrible terrible shots made. That was ridiculous and for Furry to take control of the day and harp about the massclaim and dispense all this infinite "wisdom" about it but not actually provide sound fucking advice concerning the day vig issue is mind-blowing and further strengthens my scum read. I can't say W.T.F. enough. I can see doing it day one, but literally less than 24 hours went by before you vig shot. DeasVail was a horrible vig shot too; he was quite obviously town, and he quite often has really good instincts as well.
Sala - *snap* Focus *snap* You're confirmed town. Calm the fuck down. When I read you, I see your avatar jumping back and forth. I know you're legitimately trying, but you're a bit of a distraction. If you could take a deep breath and think before you post sometimes, things could be so much better.
Peta - Sense of humor's here! I did chuckle a
little
, and you made me laugh several times in the midst of the inanity of this thread, which means you're town...of course
In post 393, Furry wrote:
Town only roles will get snuffed out with no protection. I only hope the more I say it the more you either agree or just confirm you are Scum already.
You are wrong is all I can say. If you refuse to see that
you are right
, I cant help you. Who cares if town roles that arent the vigs die? It leaves confirmed town in the game. I would be thrilled to see a dead anything but a vig tomorrow.
Freudian slippage abounds. You probably didn't mean to say this, but I lol'd.
I don't follow this line of thinking. The town vigs are useless to town once their shots are used up, other town roles are not, and their benefit to town is highly dependent upon the playerlist anyway. I've left confirmed town alive to endgame before because it suited my purpose; I've seen it done more than once that the vigs are left alive while mafia searches for other roles. There's never any guarantee that scum are going to kill the vig if they have the potential to kill someone who is more dangerous to them. Which thanks to you, have just been narrowed down for them.
Your non-stop defense of your position and crusade to prove yourself right has likewise been a total distraction that has cost town the ability to scum hunt, which scum thrive in, so good job creating that. You've spent an inordinate amount of time on this stupid massclaim issue and trying to lead town down a horrible path and it needs to end now. It's a distraction that is cluttering the game. You're never going to admit that you're wrong and no one else is going to either. So just stop.
I can't believe that you and Kondi to a lesser extent are actually congratulating yourselves for what you've caused here today. The town vig's didn't need to be outed. They shouldn't have been outed
at all
. Period. Outing the vig's did nothing but cause a distraction that ended in two town deaths. Sure, vig's often shoot poorly, but if they hadn't been outed today, and were say tomorrow, they would have had an entire day's worth of information to work with, not to mention a flip and a nightkill which would have helped them make a better decision. Total Waste of a good opportunity and it's being touted as if it wasn't anything but fucking stupid.
In post 439, Furry wrote:
Seriously though, hayker wagon just looks all types of ugly. His push on inte is a town push because while he disagrees with my theory he is making a very good point against another who disagrees with it. The "Furry is scummy" post also is written from what I think almost any town would think at that point in time. He is almost for sure town.
Im not voting him, I dont care if it gets me lynched im not voting a strong town read.
This is so fake. If you want to build up some town cred by calling your counter wagon town, at least act like you're town and believe you both are. You say he's a strong town read, that you don't care if not voting him gets you lynched, and you do absolutely nothing about it. When I have a strong town read, I don't just passively let them get lynched, I actively oppose it and try to get my scum read lynched. Sure you have a scum read; you're voting Scooby, but you're not doing anything about actually
pushing
Scooby. In fact, this is your post after Hayker, your "strong" town read, gets put at L-1:
In post 462, Furry wrote:Wait for scooby to make his response to me. Im pretty sure he is scum from something else I havent mentioned but want to see if he digs himself a deeper hole first.
This does not say to me that you have a strong town read in Hayker or that you have a strong scum read in Scooby. This says to me that you're just relieved it's not you but don't care who it is who gets lynched.
In post 461, Nobody Special wrote:Well, I'm certainly willing to put Hayker at L-1 (I just didn't want to hammer, so I waited for the VC).
Vote: Hayker
What made you change your mind from Furry to Hayker?
In post 419, Hayker wrote:
As for my "explanation for the mafia to do", it's commen sense that a role claim like that will resolve itself. I was going to pull an example from Mafia 96, though after reading that it occurs to me the nature of my example was different. (Was remembering a miller being a cop) Either way, what I pointed out truly is a big case of wifom. Mafia leaves cop alive to get him lynched for being mafia, as opposed to mafia fakeclaim cop to delay getting lynched. Though in this case it is possible for the mafia to have a rolecop yadda yadda yadda. It's one big case of wifom. There is no point in lynching a claimed rolecop day 1, as foolish as the claim was. Considering there have already been 5 hard claims and 1 or 2 softclaims, can't remember offhand. It is highly unlikely there are any more town power roles. Though...a neighborizer seems a very weak and almost worthless role if you ask me. Perhaps I just am that unaware of the meta here.
Iso reads are incomplete as of now, still working on that post.
Could you be any more wishy-washy? The way that you guys are kind of defending each other in such a passive way is horrible.
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Hayker and Furry can be on a team together, but the Hayker wagon didn't spring up to save Furry.
Why wouldn't you if you were a mafia role cop try to lynch me? It's not like I'm obvtown here; I'm pretty sure most people would be willing to lynch me.
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