Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[greygnarl]

VOTE: BBmolla
Kill the miller and we get money faster. He's a liability that needs to die.

[greygnarl]

BBmiller you there?

[greygnarl]

I have not played this before.
BB claimed miller not me.

pedit: for mehdi

[greygnarl]

I'm guessing at least one of you played this before. Would it be correct to assume that scum has access to more money then town? Not as a whole but rather that each scum gets a bigger chunk of the pie then each town?

[greygnarl]

You

believe

we're all vanilla. If BB says he is joking then I'll remove my vote. Other people know how the efficiency bonus works I see.

BB just fucked the thread by doing somethin very untown. If he says he was joking then fuck him. Suspicion will remain and the WIFOM will be endless.

[greygnarl]

Pedit by way of posting because I'm on my phone: @gentlemen If Magua confirms it then I'll be happy.

Is everybody vanilla Mag

[greygnarl]

Going to bed. Will read the six new pages tomorrow.

[greygnarl]

Stop calling Geyice grey mehdi!!!

On page 6. Will finish reading in a few hours. School and all.

[greygnarl]

Oracle claim helps town I think. Molla is ridiculous. We can get our cash quickly by lynching this asshole. He's trolling like in his meta but he's really just trying to drag the day out.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: MoI

Ridiculous. It says it right in the fucking PM. He's gonna come back and say he missed it. Just wait. He fucking scumslipped bigtime. SHoot whoever you want molla.

[greygnarl]

As far as I know, every player was offered a QT because mechanics. (only between them and the mod)

Then clearly you don't know as much as you think. Not a single PM (my role PM or my back and forths with Magua on my bids Night 0) from Magua has it been explicitly offered to me by him for him to set-up a QT for me.

@Magua - Please confirm or deny that all Town players were offered a QT of your creation.

MoI fucking slipped right here. he obviously looked at the PM and then didn't see it.

[greygnarl]

MoI just scumslipped. Pile votes please.

[greygnarl]

Vote please?

[greygnarl]

Lynch? If molla and Magua post and MoI isn't dead the molla is lynched after him.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Seanald

Plan is vote Seanald then daykill MoI right?

[greygnarl]

To clarify: NOBODY FUCKING HAMMER OR PUT HIM AT L-1. Let molla do his kill and vote.

[greygnarl]

We can wait. If he doesn't die though you realize you are dead. I will not have you holding up the whole fucking thread so you can play fucking games.

[greygnarl]

Is your dayvig one shot?

[greygnarl]

Who claimed they had the nightkill? slumber is asking shit that's confusing me.

pedit kk

[greygnarl]

Molla You are serious about the miller part, right?

[greygnarl]

Do you make money?

[greygnarl]

wait until tonight at least to send the kill. i actually would like moi to have at least a chance to respond to all this shit. am fine with smashing the fuck out of seanald as soon as the vig is done though.

This was confusing me. You were talking about real-life days though.

[greygnarl]

it may interest you to know that MoI has posted in 5 other topics since he posted here. He disappeared a while ago and I went to check. He had posted here last. About and hour or two later here we are.

[greygnarl]

Oh god nevermind. FORGET I SAID ANYTHING.

[greygnarl]

Mehdi, can I get some scum meta?

[greygnarl]

Open ...443

Yeah ok.

[greygnarl]

If molla doesn't kill somebody soon he is scum. If he keeps saying that he isn't sure if everyone wants him to do it then he is scum.

pedit: Stop calling him grey! Confusing the hell out of me. he can be ice and I'll be gnarlsbarkley.

[greygnarl]

Slumber has been rubbing me the wrong way. Not for the daykill but for other things.

[greygnarl]

The thing is he could be scum with a daykill. I, like Mehdi, don't understand why scum would claim something that retarded D1 if they don't have a daykill. The obvious thing to do is let him use his daykill as towns sees fit and if he fails to do that then we lynch him.

[greygnarl]

this is a dangerous assumption to make, especially when a mod moves into a sequel from a mini to a large

Fearmongering?

Why not. Why are you sure BBMolla is trolling?

its molla

You took it seriously before, then it was trolling, then it was not trolling because of the daykill. I thought the same thing but only because of others misleading me on molla's meta. You seem to come up with these ideas really fast.

I am ready for the shoot. I don't think Gentlemen is though so I'd refrain.

One of many examples of buddying up to Gentle.

[greygnarl]

Like everybody else said: Molla is likely town and even if he isn't he can stick around as long as he listens.

MoI's D1 reads aren't worth anything. Scum put all kinds of different things in their early reads.

Still feeling weird about slumber. He's waffling while hiding behind the hydra.

GreyICE is null. Gut is saying town but everybody else is on his ass. I feel like he was just being sort of brash and now

people

THE ARROGANT AS HELL HYDRAS(not Pitty) are pissed. I still have a townread on Gentlemen but gut is don't trust hydras. If he starts acting weird later in the game though, he will become #1 scumread. It's easy to act protown early but if they start misdirecting PRs alter then that's scum.

[greygnarl]

I think a lynch on Seanald is in order now. We got the vig and hit scum. Let's get our money and buy abilities.

Important: Did Oracle go to town? Claim it if you have it.

[greygnarl]

Vote Seanald? Piggy looks town to me.

[greygnarl]

That's a lot of assuming your doing. The facts remain: Failing to lynch Seanald will cost the town at least $140. I doubt that we will be able to shift to anybody else within 2 days and that's just money down the shitter.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Defender
A quick look at Def's ISO makes it seem like he is bussing/lining up a lynch on Sean. MoI could've set up a bus Seanald strat. However, it's also likely Defender is going for a quick mislynch on a weak, scummy player.

Reads

Strong town reads: BBMolla, The Bois, Voided, Mehdi,, Sala, Pitty, Greygnarl
Weaker town reads: GreyICE,
Null reads: Guile, Eidolon. Stefan, Elmo. Phillammon, Tammy (?). Tazaro, Pere,
Weaker scum reads:
Strong scum reads: Seanald, D3F3nder

You won't really be a money factor anyway if you have no wage.

[greygnarl]

And pere what's your opinion on defender likely not knowing the existence of a qt either? (I think before it was explained town has a qt link so scum wouldn't have had it then either)

Grey vote defender. I have a feeling we can get 10 votes quick enough.

MoI called out Defender at 186 about his Seanald read,

and Defender totally ignored it.

That in addition to the soft push on the Stefan QT statement means he's probably scum.

This just made me go over the edge. When I'm scum I tend to ignore a lot of shit my partner says about me. See Open 437.

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Defender
A quick look at Def's ISO makes it seem like he is bussing/lining up a lynch on Sean. MoI could've set up a bus Seanald strat. However, it's also likely Defender is going for a quick mislynch on a weak, scummy player.

Reads

Strong town reads: BBMolla, The Bois, Voided, Mehdi,, Sala, Pitty, Greygnarl
Weaker town reads: GreyICE,
Null reads: Guile, Eidolon. Stefan, Elmo. Tammy (?). Tazaro, Pere,
Weaker scum reads:

Phillamon

Strong scum reads: Seanald, D3F3nder

You won't really be a money factor anyway if you have no wage.

[greygnarl]

Defender looks scummier now. I'm putting a lot on what Peregrine said.

Slumber let's go

choo-choo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[greygnarl]

CHOO-CHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scumslip hard buddy.

[greygnarl]

I have said that even though you're acting town it feels weird. I trust what you say as town but you're just being a bit weird. I don't think that justifies a scumread or even a null read.

Vote Defender. He scumslipped just like MoI did and he acted scummier to boot.

[greygnarl]

Too lazy for quotes so just figure out who I'm talking to.

[greygnarl]

Organizing what? Targets? Don't really understand how that works.

[greygnarl]

We don't know if the same items will go up again GB. That's why we need the Oracle.

[greygnarl]

Mehdi check his ISO.

Defender: What the hell did you win?

[greygnarl]

Hold up while Tammy and slumber post I guess.

[greygnarl]

I am not the NK. Why didn't you claim this earlier?

[greygnarl]

Keep Defender off that table.

[greygnarl]

NO FUCK YOU MATT!

[greygnarl]

Yeah, if Defender claims NKer he is lynched regardless.

fuckin matt

Hi Matt.

[greygnarl]

Maybe he'll still fuck it up.

[greygnarl]

I'd prefer he use his double vote actually. Even though he's obvtown in my book I still don't like it.

[greygnarl]

Slumber please explain why you would not want Sala to burn off the extra vote?

[greygnarl]

I don't have Investigative Immune either. Would've claimed that right away.

[greygnarl]

SEANALD YOU WILL BUY THE FUCKING ORACLE OR DIE!

[greygnarl]

I don't have any interest in buying any negative utility roles right now.

Tammy why are you trying to delay the lynch?

Once GreyICE posts the votes and hammer better come through.

Also, pros cons on Sala using the extra vote?

[greygnarl]

Extra vote doesn't even count if we're under 10 players. I'd say burn it off now. He can be swingy sometimes even if he is town.

[greygnarl]

I was joking.

[greygnarl]

The extra vote doesn't work if we're under ten players. Is it worth waiting for ICE to post if it costs the town more? I say just go ahead and do the lynch.

[greygnarl]

I feel like I would be a thousand times less suspicous if I remember that Slumber is MattP. Everything makes so much more sense.

AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH! Ok, I'm just impatient. I feel like too much coordination on bidding will allow scum to play us though.

[greygnarl]

Is it claiming abilities they win to look town?

[greygnarl]

I have nothing.

[greygnarl]

Night1 auction items have been posted.
Paraphrased for your reading pleasure.

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3
Night-kill
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3
Follower: Tracker. x2
Stalker: Watcher

Clarified because I'm awesome. and that was confusing as hell.
Does the MoNA stop people from being watched or does it stop watcher's from seeing you visit their target?
Is Sartor like Investigative Immunity?

pedit: He is the fucking Oracle

[greygnarl]

GreyICE had nothing to say. Sala you better vote.

[greygnarl]

Should we claim anything we want to buy?

[greygnarl]

I say no transfer to Tazaro or Stefan. Give multiples to Sala and GB.

Also, Fuck you Sala: I was wanting Sixth Sense.

[greygnarl]

Obvtown

Sala
GB
Mehdi

Probtown

Pere
Tammy
Stefan
Slumber

Null

Everybody else

Scummy

Elmo
Phil
Sean

Dangerous

GreyICE

Eid: FULLCLAIM

[greygnarl]

Totally forgot who Stefan was earlier. He looks pretty town.

[greygnarl]

In future iterations of this game it would be nice if there was no transferring. This is kind of killing the fun of the setup IMO.

Ice

is dangerous because as he admitted he has lots of knowledge of the setup. He hasn't made himself super protown.

BTW dangerous isn't worse than scummy. It's on its own.

[greygnarl]

Mehdi can have money. They wanted to put him under probtown.

I will go after an item on the market.

[greygnarl]

Fill this in slumber
Phil--->
Sean--->
Voided--->
Pitty--->
Guille--->
GreyICE--->
Elmo--->

WTF are we doing with Eidolon.

[greygnarl]

Do you have money?
Can we confirm her by advertising for Governor?

[greygnarl]

nvm. Her scumbuddies can just use them since it's anonymous.

[greygnarl]

I, Greygnarl, AGREE WITH THIS TRANSACTION MATCHUP.

Also, Peregrine fucking just hit shit right on the head there.
Everybody agree or say why not.

Tazaro can just keep his money.

Pitty transfers to Stefan.

[greygnarl]

Agreed

Mehdi
Greygnarl
Slumber

[greygnarl]

Mehdi-We can just lynch Eid tomorrow.

[greygnarl]

Agreed

Mehdi
Greygnarl
Slumber

GreyICE

[greygnarl]

GB do you agree to the plan?

[greygnarl]

Agreed

Mehdi
Greygnarl
Slumber
GreyICE

Guille
Gentlemen

[greygnarl]

Agreed

Mehdi
Greygnarl
Slumber
GreyICE
Guille
Gentleman

Pitty
Peregrine
Stefan
Sala
Phil

That's 11/18 agreeing.
Everybody state how much you are giving.

[greygnarl]

GreyICE is looking scummier. The fact that he didn't claim his money is weird. I read him as being a pretty smart dude, so not doing that is kind of off.

I missed Sean but at GB's request I will wait a little while before updating.

[greygnarl]

ICE are you saying you have $90 right now. Are you also saying you will make $50+Eff. tonight?

[greygnarl]

How many items did you bid on last night?

[greygnarl]

Guys

What if

Scum

Had an ability to fuck with transactions

?

Fuck off and agree to the plan.

[greygnarl]

How many items did you bid on last night?

[greygnarl]

OK my bad.

[greygnarl]

Elmo is just going to hold us up fucking stalling. He'll come back, make a post, and disappear.

[greygnarl]

We still have to have this filled out, we'll double up and if Slumber, Pere, Tammy and Greygnarl all put their name next to something it should be full up.

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -

Tazaro

Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -

Gentlemen Bastards

Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --

Salamance

Night-kill -

StefanB

MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -

Greygnarl

Stalker: Watcher -

Gentlemen Bastards

If people don't want me having sartor or MoNA then I'll do this. BVanker seems pretty useless. I'll try to pick it up for like a dollar if people want.

[greygnarl]

In that list, PartyBois are the only ones we feel confident enough about to let take MoNA or Sartor. We don't think it really matters who gets Banker or Follower.

[greygnarl]

Personally I owuld liek tot ie up sartor becaus ethat is dangerous as hell. You know what, that's what I'll do. If you guys are comfortable with it I'd feel much safer not letting Piggy have it. You should probably buy follower spb though.

We still have to have this filled out, we'll double up and if Slumber, Pere, Tammy and Greygnarl all put their name next to something it should be full up.

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -

Tazaro

Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -

Gentlemen Bastards

Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --

Salamance

Night-kill -

StefanB

MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -

Greygnarl

Follower: Tracker. x2 -
Stalker: Watcher -

Gentlemen Bastards

If people don't want me having sartor or MoNA then I'll do this. BVanker seems pretty useless. I'll try to pick it up for like a dollar if people want.

[greygnarl]

Tell Piggy that she can't use meta from ongoing games. Slumber should take follower.

[greygnarl]

EExcept for banker which from my understanding is useless without a lot of conftowns.

[greygnarl]

Voided and Elmo post amounts. If they post anywhere else without posting here immediately then they get lynched tomorrow.

[greygnarl]

Voided I see you.

[greygnarl]

I thought Pere said it tells how much money is in the game as a whole.

[greygnarl]

I will trade Sala Sartor for sixth sense since I find him obvtown as hell.

[greygnarl]

And that's when I realized that Voidedmafia reads the thread too much.

[greygnarl]

You're playing better than I am. Plus you have to target someone before they die. See medium from last game.

[greygnarl]

Sala, you're comfortable with me taking Sartor then?

[greygnarl]

Do we wait for Elmo and Voided?

[greygnarl]

Godfuck. It's up to Sala.

[greygnarl]

If you're town then give reads on everybody. You're dying regardless though.

Also Voided is looking scummy as hell for lurking the forum and then leaving, without telling his amount. He's basically assuring the loss of efficiency

pedit Pitty thinks like me!

[greygnarl]

Voided is back!

[greygnarl]

Voided you are transferring money because there were a good number of people who were wary of you earlier in the day. With so many people agreeing to the plan you wasting time arguing is going to cost us another day while we change it. You didn't do anything to help your towniness by wall-posting right there. If that's how you play then fine, but understand that it comes across as a bit scummy.

[greygnarl]

you're being shallow. Losing the efficiency bonus costs the town $75. That's like a whole ability.

[greygnarl]

And FTR I have you as a weak townread. I'm a bit hesitant to give Slumber so much control but the plan seems pretty good.

[greygnarl]

Slumber shut up about the PL. But seriously Voided, even GreyICE agreed.

Since when were we on a mission?

pedit: Each time we lose the efficiency bonus, Town is essentially deprived of $75 or probably $70 if you assume 6 scums.

[greygnarl]

14 townies does.

[greygnarl]

Elmo hasn't posted since he left this thread.

[greygnarl]

Nobody is policy lynching you. The reason I was upset si because you spent so much time making that fucking wall yesterday, but didn't understand the plan.

[greygnarl]

If you're town you can give reads one verybody so we can maybe use them when you die. You're still getting lynched though. The delay in switching to somebody else would be extreme. I'd rather lynch Eid but she can be dealt with tomorrow.

[greygnarl]

Elmo logged in today early in the morning. Pretty sure he is scum.

[greygnarl]

I say follow through with the L-1 and hammer and then have molla kill him tomorrow. We are not going to do this waiting till the deadline crap again.

[greygnarl]

We are not doing Phillamon.

Eidolon
Elmo

Those are the only ones with clear cases on them. greyice could've done 45 on one and 55 on something else and then rather than rounding Magua just added it up. There are too many ways for this logic to not work and wasting time it is bad.

[greygnarl]

I also felt Defender's posts were genuine meta aside. I can make genuine souding posts as hammered scum though so I don't put much into that.

[greygnarl]

Phillammon is definitely a townread but somebody who is lurking past deadlines and failing to post and somebody who is using the SK's fake claim while not being exactly protown themselves really need to go first.

[greygnarl]

Where I said Phil was a townread I meant scumread. Also, notice my vote not moving because we are fucking getting paranoid. If we wait any longer I'm pretty sure that Sala will be getting suspected.

[greygnarl]

Votes come through now. GB, Sala, bois that's you. We are not doing this wait to the deadline shit again.

[greygnarl]

Going for anybody else but defender is going to throw us in to chaos unless we can effectively just switch to them and have defender take their palce on the list. DEFENDER: YOU MUST CLAIM YOUR AMOUNT RIGHT NOW so the switch can happen faster.

[greygnarl]

That's only L-1.
Mehdi, Stefan, greyganrl, Pere, Taz, BB, Pitty, Sala, Phil

[greygnarl]

Current

Player	Amount that will be transferred
Voided	186
Guille	209
Greyice	180
Elmo	142
Pitty	209
Philla	190
Sean	103

Advertiser for Cop: Advertises cop - Peregine
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 - Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 - Gentlemen Bastards
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 -- Salamance
Night-kill - StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)- Tammy
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) - Greygnarl
Follower: Tracker. x2 - Bois
Stalker: Watcher - Gentlemen Bastards

TRANSFER FROM _____ TO ______:
Pitty to Stephan
Seanald to Gentlemen Bastard
Guille to SlumberPartyBois
Philammon to Salamence
Elmo to Tammy
Voided to Peregrine
GreyICE to greygnarl

PLAYERS NOT DOING ANY TRANSFERS:
Eidolin
BBmolla
Tazaro
Mehdi

To make sure no one has an excuse for forgetting the plan since it's right near when the lynch was hammered.

[greygnarl]

Matt, if you're there, at least read Regfan's posts regarding Phill and Elmo, they make a shitload of sense especially considering Phill's activity elsewhere.

Aaaaand now I'm back

I haven't read the case for Defender-town, not that it matters anymore

He hasn't been hammered yet.

[greygnarl]

You're not on his wagon.

[greygnarl]

Phillammon or Eidolon. Or Elmo. Nobody is going to vote Seanald.

[greygnarl]

*Apologizes to wallet*
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Phillammon

Well if Sala used it then it is a lynch.

[greygnarl]

Extra Vote (Day): This ability may only be activated while there are more than ten living players. You gain control of an extra vote, which will appear on the vote counts as '???'. This vote may be controlled by PM'ing the mod. This will be announced in-thread.

The lynch threshold

may

go up as a result of activation of this power.

This extra vote is not affected by any voting restrictions upon you.

[greygnarl]

I'm so fucking awesome. I just realized that if you highlight shit before quoting you only get that in the quote!

I don't really think Seanald is scum anymore.

[greygnarl]

shushshush now slumber. Stefan claimed that he had Neighborizer.

[greygnarl]

shushshush now

slumber. Stefan claimed that he had Neighborizer.

[greygnarl]

FUCK YOU MEHDI FOR RUINZING MY LAME ASS GAMBIT

[greygnarl]

VOTE: Defender

[greygnarl]

Use it now. That should have him at L-1. Grey you liked him for a lynch for a while. Getting paranoid now is bad. He was nearly lynched and stalled for a reason. Matt dynamic stuff is something you care about.

Him staying at L-1 this long in this fast of a game means something.

And tehn I liked Mehdi more than I ever could.

[greygnarl]

Current

Player	Amount that will be transferred
Voided	186
Guille	209
Greyice	180
Elmo	142
Pitty	209
Philla	190
Sean	103

Advertiser for Cop: Advertises cop - Peregine
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 - Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 - Gentlemen Bastards
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 -- Salamance
Night-kill - StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)- Tammy
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) - Greygnarl
Follower: Tracker. x2 - Bois
Stalker: Watcher - Gentlemen Bastards

TRANSFER FROM _____ TO ______:
Pitty to Stephan
Seanald to Gentlemen Bastard
Guille to SlumberPartyBois
Philammon to Salamence
Elmo to Tammy
Voided to Peregrine
GreyICE to greygnarl

PLAYERS NOT DOING ANY TRANSFERS:
Eidolin
BBmolla
Tazaro
Mehdi

To make sure no one has an excuse for forgetting the plan since it's right near when the lynch was hammered.

[greygnarl]

Current

Player	Amount that will be transferred
Voided	186
Guille	209
Greyice	180
Elmo	142
Pitty	209
Philla	190
Sean	103

Advertiser for Cop: Advertises cop - Peregine
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 - Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 - Gentlemen Bastards
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 -- Salamance
Night-kill - StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)- Tammy
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) - Greygnarl
Follower: Tracker. x2 - Bois
Stalker: Watcher - Gentlemen Bastards

TRANSFER FROM _____ TO ______:
Pitty to Stephan
Seanald to Gentlemen Bastard
Guille to SlumberPartyBois
Philammon to Salamence
Elmo to Tammy
Voided to Peregrine
GreyICE to greygnarl

PLAYERS NOT DOING ANY TRANSFERS:
Eidolin
BBmolla
Tazaro
Mehdi

To make sure no one has an excuse for forgetting the plan since it's right near when the lynch was hammered.

[greygnarl]

What does it take to grab the top of the page?

[greygnarl]

Current

Player	Amount that will be transferred
Voided	186
Guille	209
Greyice	180
Elmo	142
Pitty	209
Philla	190
Sean	103

Advertiser for Cop: Advertises cop - Peregine
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 - Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 - Gentlemen Bastards
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 -- Salamance
Night-kill - StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)- Tammy
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) - Greygnarl
Follower: Tracker. x2 - Bois
Stalker: Watcher - Gentlemen Bastards

TRANSFER FROM _____ TO ______:
Pitty to Stephan
Seanald to Gentlemen Bastard
Guille to SlumberPartyBois
Philammon to Salamence
Elmo to Tammy
Voided to Peregrine
GreyICE to greygnarl

PLAYERS NOT DOING ANY TRANSFERS:
Eidolin
BBmolla
Tazaro
Mehdi

To make sure no one has an excuse for forgetting the plan since it's right near when the lynch was hammered.

[greygnarl]

I have the Tailor. And the Doctor protected slumber over GB? Seriously? If you actually flipped a coin you are fucking retarded. Also, I think it's safe to assume Stefan lost on the kill.

[greygnarl]

It looks like one of the scumteams is focusing on trying to grab up the Neighborizer and trying to find their friends rather than going after town.
VOTE: Seanald
Neighborizer is next to useless for scum without cop. No reason why they would advertise that over II, Tailor or Governor if they didn't have the cop.

[greygnarl]

We don't get the funds until tonight so we can't tell who the fuck transferred.

[greygnarl]

Read the case I just made on Seanald and see the truth. inb4 guilty claim

[greygnarl]

SHOOT SEANALD AFTER HE CLAIMS HIS INVESTIGATION.

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Paraphrase as best you can. Put an asterisk next to it if we should know the role or it was sued last game so then somebody else can put it up as it's real name.

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used*

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Accountant x2(Targeted): Choose another player. You will learn how much money this player possessed at the start of this Night.

Blind Bid x1(Day): For the Night, only you can see the current bid for auctions. To everyone else, it will be hidden. This will be announced in-thread. Other players will be informed if they are, or are not, the highest bidder as normal.

Bulletproof x1(Personal): You are protected from a single Night-kill targeting you this Night.

Hitman x2(Personal): If you activate “Night-kill” in the same night you activate “Hitman”, “Night-kill” will ignore one ability that would stop the kill from working (ie, ignore one roleblock or protection).

Neighborizer x2(Targeted): Choose another player. At the start of the next Day, a Neighbor Quicktopic will be provided that either of you may talk in at any time while alive. If you use this ability a subsequent time, you may choose to add the new player to an existing Neighbor Quicktopic (this will work even if you die that Night), or create a new, separate one.

Night-kill

Vote Freezer (Day): Choose another player who is voting, but is not voting for No Lynch. Their vote is now frozen and cannot be changed for the rest of the Day. This will be announced in-thread. This will not affect the lynch threshhold.

Vote Nullifier (Targeted): Choose another player. That player will not have a vote the following Day. This will be announced in-thread. The lynch threshold may go down as a result of activation of this power.

Is Blind Bid correct Peregrine? Also no-clue what that weird one is.

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I second that Slumber can NOT have the bulletproof. I still am still not sure he is town. I'll bid on Accountant if nobody objects. I still have $189 because nobody contested Tailor. Also, does anybody object to me burning off my Tailor on Molla?

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Unless they didn't transfer becasue GB was their recipient

Read on slumber is gut. (Also not sure where you get the initials SDP from.)

Still waiting for Sean to get his ass in gear and get to the thread.

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Unless they didn't transfer becasue GB was their recipient

Read on slumber is gut. (Also not sure where you get the initials SDP from.)

Still waiting for Sean to get his ass in gear and get to the thread.

This further implicates Sean by the way.

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If greyICE gave me what he said then I should 419 before efficiency bonus.

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There change on defender supports them as well, pushing interesting ideas, and being fairly loud all help.

Sean is known to have bought cop for 91. Assuming amounts are similar to the last game (which was the template for this) 150 start + 125 each day. 150-91+125 < 190

As well as for that to be true sean's scum team would have to have had the night kill too.

My theory would have Sean's actually being the one paying for Neighborizer.

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Mehdi there are multiple people on a scumteam.

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Unless they're on the receiving end of the transfer, or if they killed the guy they were supposed to be transferring in to.

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I'm pretty sure that Sean is scum. let's get his investigation result and then have molla kill him. Cakes?

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Sala for your plan is it necessary for you to have the bulletproof?

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Updated List:

Accountant x2(Targeted): Choose another player. You will learn how much money this player possessed at the start of this Night.

Blind Bid x1(Day): For the Night, only you can see the current bid for auctions. To everyone else, it will be hidden. This will be announced in-thread.

Bulletproof x1(Personal): You are protected from a single Night-kill targeting you this Night.

Hitman x2(Personal): If you activate “Night-kill” in the same night you activate “Hitman”, “Night-kill” will ignore one ability that would stop the kill from working (ie, ignore one roleblock or protection).

Neighborizer x2(Targeted): Choose another player. At the start of the next Day, a Neighbor Quicktopic will be provided that either of you may talk in at any time while alive. If you use this ability a subsequent time, you may choose to add the new player to an existing Neighbor Quicktopic (this will work even if you die that Night), or create a new, separate one.

Night-kill

Vote Freezer (Day): Choose another player who is voting, but is not voting for No Lynch. Their vote is now frozen and cannot be changed for the rest of the Day. This will be announced in-thread. This will not affect the lynch threshhold.

Vote Nullifier (Targeted): Choose another player. That player will not have a vote the following Day. This will be announced in-thread. The lynch threshold may go down as a result of activation of this power.

Is Blind Bid correct Peregrine? Also no-clue what that weird one is.

??? (Targeted): Pay $1 to transfer your your wage amount to another player.

pedit Jesus Christ you two.

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sala

slumber. seriously.

y

Your

plan

grammar sucks and is bad

pls

please accept this simple

fcat

fact.

On a serious note, as much as I want to support Sala's plan becasue he suspects slumber and becasue I'm almost certain he is town, I don't exactly feel as though Sala really has a track record of having the best ideas.

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How did the Preview screen not bring that up? That plan is fucking stupid. Just saying.

pedit: Thank you Tammy.

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/ragequit

Confirming SPB as town by killing him and then letting him talk for another day is so dumb.

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He thinks slumber might be scum so killing him would clear him. Flawed logic obviously but he's not being selfish on purpose.

@molla, If you kill for Matt then you are fucking dumb. He needs to spill whatever he wants to do rather than just direct town from a throne.

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You were going to kill me? I'd like to know if it has to do with the fact that I'm not writing you down as obvtown?

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Wait molla don't shoot, I'M ACTUALLY AN ALARMIST!

Thank you Tammy!

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real chat matts been screamin @ me to let us go after grey since last night. i didnt want to since i had plans 4 dealin w. him but i cant hold him back after greys l8est posting.

This is going to sound a lot like I'm trying to buddy slumber to try to get him to stop pressuring me. That being said, kanye just completely confirmed them as town with that. Matt thinks I've drawn scum again and is really excited since he got me in Name of the Wind.

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@Mehdi I generally yell a lot as both alignments. Besides for Masons and Mafia, my first game ever, I've never been that invested in a game where I was town until this one.

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Just click on my the wiki link belwo my name.

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Not liking Guille based on these posts. Really this day goes nowhere without Seanald. If he posts without claiming his cop move then he dies immediately.

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I'm not expecting anybody to agree with my distrust of slumber but taht no longer matters because, as I said, he just town slipped bigtime.

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Who is Tammy getting money from? I already claimed my money and I might have more than her.

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Molla already claimed to have 1 more shot. I'm pretty sure I have the most money right now and so I'll buy the NK. Tammy will buy Neighborizer. Also, Tammy mentioned that we need to scumhunt more. Yeah that sounds about right. I still think that Seanald is a good lynch. He's using the cop as a fucking shield.

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I got a town vibe from GreyICE despite the fact that he wasn't really doing that much. Eagerly awaiting Eid's first post. Elmo is a good vig traget as he's done absolutely nothing. Will support shooting him.

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Also, for people using reasoning that Stefan is town for hunting or whatever let me give you this:
We know that scum didn't know about personal QTs. He knew before anybody mentioned it. The only way he would've said that as scum is if he was soft-claiming Neighborizer and that is not possible so he's 100% conftown.

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Plus you forgot to mention that having cop and then having Neighborizer advertised is fucking ridiculous. SEAN IS SCUM. Actually we should vig him because then everybody will pile on Elmo and we get efficiency.

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Magua can you replace GreyICE again? declan obviously forgot about this game and he just went V/LA till Sunday in another game.

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While I was initially suspiscous kanye's "matt's been wanting to have a go" or whatever he said just screams town.

So I trust SPB

Also, Mehdi it's Slumber

Party

Bois, not Darty.

@Phil I didn't say Seanald advertised Neighborizer is a fact. I think that either he or his scumteam did it.

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That's it Grey?

?

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Wait he actually wants to shoot me? Are you fucking serious?

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no one vote Elmo.

Why is Phillamon scum?

Can everyone post in bold if they trust SPB or not?

Phill, if you think SPB is scum, why did you transfer?

Mehdi or Tammy, can you see some form of scum motivation for SPB's plan

Scum motivation would be to look so town that even though you've pretty much fucked your entire team nobody will believe that you're actually scum
and so you can direct the investigations elsewhere. I know that wasn't directed at me but still.

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Alright if he's going to actually kill me then here are my notes: (Just updated for today)

GreyICE claims insane knowledge of the setup. Everyone thinks he is scum Seems like he is town I guess doesn’t read thread closely

Gentlemen have devised a huge amount of strategy. Likely town More town. Thinks GreyICE null

slumberbois are making some good points but are acting kind of weird. It seems like they are trying to play up a bunch of angles. They pressured BB but then said he was just a troll. Really weird. Are saying to kill MoI becaause he’s hard to lynch? trying to sow some paranoia about. Wants to keep double vote in play? TOWN Matt suspects me pretty much because he got me last game

Sala Obv town vote switching doesn’t give a fuck, had a really bad plan, got butthurt, still town

MoI just fucking slipped big time. If he confirmed then he would have to have that thing there

Pitty is town based on Piggy’s meta from JK9 of course I don’t know her scum meta so I’m not reallty sure

molla looks town for trying to draw the NK if scum has it Actually made the kill. Maybe is a suvivor/sk cuz he’s hard buddying SPB by agreeing to shoot me

Defender derps hardcore doing same thing as MoI lynchable for other scumtells too.

Peregrine pressuring Pitty for what again? Really confused/scum Claims Oracle really late. Was making it really hard to understand but when I gave the clarification idea he latched on immdeditaely

guille does nothing not sure, really giving nothing to work with

Tammy is the most logical player in the game probs town but maybe biased because hse is agreeing with me

Mehdi keeps on top of all the abilities+obvtown

phil becomes so much more protown when pressured. Possible scum possible doesn’t give a fuck about hte game possible not enough free time

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Also, I just noticed that I might be down a crapton of dollars if GreyICE replaced out before night actioning and if his replacement didn't read the whole thread. If that's the case I'm pretty sure GreyICE is confscum because he could be actuallt trying to play to his wincon by replacing out.

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oh yeah never mind.

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oh yeah never mind.

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BBmolla is like a van gogh. Sorta a genious but something is fuckin off lol.

I actually don't believe he shot anyone.

And tammy. That wasn't really a reads list. It was my notes. Also, if molla is serious then you can
still use it on me. I'm technically not dead yet.

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LOL molla

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^Answer this

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Tammy is buying Neighborizer
Greygnarl is buying the NK

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I think that we are almost certainly going to rotate a few transfers. Actually, once Shamrock

claims

makes up some shit about his money it might be optimal that I do not bid on NK.

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Wasn't Grey supposed to send me 180? Or was that after Mehdi counted all the 5%?

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So he did take the 5% out. I guess his maths were wrong though.

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I have $95 + Whatever I make tonight, so I should be transferring like $145+Efficiency.

I'm sorry, $90 plus efficiency. Magua charged me $10 for my bids.

So this is weird. Why would town not know how much money they have? Pretty sure we should just shoot Shamrock to see whether or not I'm getting money.

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What do you think about shooting Shamrock?

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I have $95 + Whatever I make tonight, so I should be transferring like $145+Efficiency.

I'm sorry, $90 plus efficiency. Magua charged me $10 for my bids.

So this is weird. Why would town not know how much money they have? Pretty sure we should just shoot Shamrock to see whether or not I'm getting money.

EBWOP: I mean if he's scum I won't be getting money probably.

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We are not lynching Phil tday. We can get information out of him tomorrow. Elmo is a fucking block in the road and Seanald looks suspiscous as all hell.

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As in you actually post so we can here you talk and stuff.

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Accountant x2(Targeted): Choose another player. You will learn how much money this player possessed at the start of this Night.

Sala

Blind Bid x1(Day): For the Night, only you can see the current bid for auctions. To everyone else, it will be hidden. This will be announced in-thread. Other players will be informed if they are, or are not, the highest bidder as normal.

Useless since we are organizing our bids. Nobody bid on this please.

Bulletproof x1(Personal): You are protected from a single Night-kill targeting you this Night.

Slumber

Hitman x2(Personal): If you activate “Night-kill” in the same night you activate “Hitman”, “Night-kill” will ignore one ability that would stop the kill from working (ie, ignore one roleblock or protection).

Mehdi

Neighborizer x2(Targeted): Choose another player. At the start of the next Day, a Neighbor Quicktopic will be provided that either of you may talk in at any time while alive. If you use this ability a subsequent time, you may choose to add the new player to an existing Neighbor Quicktopic (this will work even if you die that Night), or create a new, separate one.

Tammy

Night-kill[b Greygnarl[/b]

Vote Freezer (Day): Choose another player who is voting, but is not voting for No Lynch. Their vote is now frozen and cannot be changed for the rest of the Day. This will be announced in-thread. This will not affect the lynch threshhold.

Stephan

Vote Nullifier (Targeted): Choose another player. That player will not have a vote the following Day. This will be announced in-thread. The lynch threshold may go down as a result of activation of this power.

Peregrine

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Player	Buying	Receiving Money From
Greygnarl	Night-kill	Voided
Tammy	Neighborizer	Phil
Slumber	Bulletproof	Seanald
Stephan	Vote Freezer	Shamrock
Mehdi	Hitman	N/A
Sala	Accountant	N/A
Peregrine	Vote Nullifier	Pitty

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WTF are you talking about?

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I am confused as fuck. What the hell are you talking about?

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HOLY SHIT! Molla is a fucking scum. It says that scum have no night-kill but it doesn't say shit about a day-kill. It's like the perfect balancing factor due to the fact that it is one shot instead of everyday. And what better way to become unsuspected then by letting the town direct the kill onto our buddy?

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VOTE: molla

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Not at all. He is now confirmed beyond on a doubt and the fact that he has no more shots make him a non threat to scum so there is a reason he won't get NKed. And originally, it didn't even seem like MoI was going to be shot. It was more likely it would be Elmo or Seanald. Once he said town could direct the shot he had no chance to but to shoot MoI. He probably just decided that the bus was for the best.

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All you need to do is survive to the end of the game. Town would kill each other off rather than go for you.

Also, the confusion stems from whether we are using Phil's table or Slumber's personally I don't like either as I think that we have too many townreads.

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UNVOTE:

That was pretty much a reaction test like you assumed. However, it made me doubt your alignment a little bit more.
cough*Plus the scums don't know the other team*cough