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Post Post #15 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:48 pm

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This is happening right now.

VOTE: BBmolla

I am 70/30 based off of his presentation of his miller claim that he's lying, but regardless of his presentation millers die, and if we are going to kill him we are going to do it very very quickly and efficiently. The game can start tomorrow when the miller is gone. We know there is only one NK tonight so the damage of throwing away a day to ensure the miller is gone is worth it.

Why BBmolla's claim is a bad one

  • BBmolla knows the current site-meta regarding millers; miller claims more often than not are scumclaims. His tone in his miller claim is not at all indicative of that.

    He throws in a very blunt claim and then sweats it off like it's NBD moving on to a stupid joke about wanting money and that we should quickly NL or lynch Seanald.

    I don't like how he presented it. I think that someone that really is a miller would take it more seriously, would be genuinely disappointed or something, they would not blatantly ignore it and move onto RVS jokery. It irks me. I want him dead. He is going to die today regardless so why wait and lower the amount of money we get tonight (I'm fairly certain all players get more money the earlier this day ends so there's no reason to prolong this decision)

    Regardless of his behavior, millers should be lynched. I've seen 4 miller claims in games I've been involved with and 3 of those claims were from scum. IDGAF, he dies today and right now.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:49 pm

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excellent post matthew.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:50 pm

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btw i concur with most of gentlemans suggestions re: claims and money allocation.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:51 pm

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the point is whether hes fakeclaiming or not were not dealing with it.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:51 pm

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Where does it state that all roles are purchased?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:54 pm

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[quote="In post 23, Mehdi2277"][/quote]
this is a dangerous assumption to make, especially when a mod moves into a sequel from a mini to a large
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Post Post #30 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:57 pm

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In post 27, Salamence20 wrote:Why not. Why are you sure BBMolla is trolling?

its molla
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Post Post #33 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:00 pm

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lol if u think magua will answer that
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Post Post #38 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:03 pm

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whats do you suggest we talk about then gentle,, we go back to rvs? fuck that im talking about molla being a piece of shit.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:03 pm

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yo tammy
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Post Post #41 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:04 pm

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why the rvs vote outside of rvs?
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Post Post #45 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:08 pm

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In post 37, Tammy wrote:Are you guys seriously putting this much time into BB's very obvious fake claim? He fake claims something random a lot, it's oohing to get worked up over. As far as him dying today over it LOL!NOPE.

VOTE: gentleman bastards for writing a post I'm too slow to fully grasp on my first read through.

This is a terrible post and you should feel terrible

I don't understand why you have to be scum in every game I play with you :(

VOTE: Tammy
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Post Post #47 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:10 pm

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Ok Molla talk time over for now it's TAMMEH TIME
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Post Post #52 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:14 pm

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fyi the reason for our vote is not that you are opposed to lynching molla ; - )
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Post Post #56 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:17 pm

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pls refer to us as "the bois" tyia
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Post Post #58 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:20 pm

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fyi the trollie slot had zero posts before you replaced into it so actually that is reading you.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:23 pm

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you do realize that i explicitly announced in that game that he was replaced because he had not picked up his role pm right? i dont think anyone even mentioned trolly once in that game or acknowledged him outside of that.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:23 pm

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what a stupid dumb thing to argue about why the heck am i doing that.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:25 pm

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In post 53, Mehdi2277 wrote:Already stated my opinion that oracle and investigative immunity people need to claim (which is also me saying I do not have either power). Fund pooling should be done on a case by case basis (as in if we were to have a clear then I could see having a lot of people transfer to them and doc on them).

Reg I can see the matt town read, but can you explain the sala town read?

Matt is the first line in that post terrible or the second?

P-edit: Tammy unless he's read you wrong repeatedly before I'm not sure how that makes much sense for a reply.

In post 37, Tammy wrote:
Are you guys seriously putting this much time into BB's very obvious fake claim? He fake claims something random a lot, it's oohing to get worked up over. As far as him dying today over it LOL!NOPE.


VOTE: gentleman bastards for writing a post I'm too slow to fully grasp on my first read through.


I bolded the scummy part for you.

I caught her as scum in I believe it was NY 151 mafia


In post 60, Tammy wrote:
In post 58, SlumberPartyBois wrote:fyi the trollie slot had zero posts before you replaced into it so actually that is reading you.


Yes, but knowing that trollie has a tendency to replace out of scum slots has a bit of an advantage.

L
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YEA OK
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Post Post #65 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:26 pm

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I'LL tell YOU what I caught you for in that game all right??
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Post Post #71 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:46 pm

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I'd greatly appreciate it if Gentleman Bastards and GreyICE said nothing until at least page 6, thanks.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:01 pm

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VOTE: Seanald

Done.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:04 pm

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FTR I am intentionally ignoring BBmolla for a bit.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:16 pm

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FTR also I've had Tammy as a very strong townread since post 66 but I was interested in forcing the game into a situation where players would have to either face the wagon or deliberately choose to ignore it. Seanald is the lucky winner.

In post 73, Seanald wrote:
In post 66, Tammy wrote:Oh are you pointing out your voting me for voting gentleman bastards when we were out of rvs and talking srzbznz...see if you actually knew me, you would know I was half serious about my frustration. But since you haven't actually played any full games with me, you don't know that balance and role spec is something I'm supremely slow about and often get mixed up on, so whatever...carry on.

In post 67, Tammy wrote:Oh that's scummy. :bows: caught me...

Pedit: oh the laundry list of contradictory items...as I said step aside there are people here who actually know how to read me :shrug:


Stop the self meta WTF?

VOTE: tammy

Mehdi this is the second time you've convinced me your town within 2 pages, you got talent mah boy you could really go places!

and side note, Matt's anger gives me a good sized boner.

And Sala still playing like Sala, which also means many of you will fall for the fallacy that he is too VI to be scum, dont listen to these inner voices of deceit.


This is a very very bad post. I'll quote Kanye's specific reasoning since it is much more concrete than what my more intuitive reasoning was:

1) He buddies us
2) He casts doubt on Sala
3) He tries to get on the Tammy wagon without looking reasonless. His specific reasoning is that she is screaming about her meta and calling herself town town town (I will come back to this later)

In post 92, Seanald wrote:^ can't decide if you keep fishing. you asked the same question of sala.

UNVOTE: tammy stop whining tammy, you do realize that your mouth is just moving but nothing good is coming out, you should of learned in elementary school that talk is cheap. If you just play the game well tammy you don't have to go around saying, hey im town im town and if you don't think so then you just can't read me right. Sounds like a teenage girl, get over that quick cuz its annoying to read.

Anyway. Does BBmolla fall under Lynch all Liars and Lynch all Millers right now?


Ridiculously aggressive towards tammy to the point of awkwardness (I am ignoring the BBmolla mention because while I think it's opportunistic and scummy, I don't really care about that right now since it does not really build on the Tammy point I'm making)

In post 94, Seanald wrote:I'd be a fan of that plan if we can block the kill, clearly any early game vig would likely hit town, I'd rather a kill be decided through lynching by good play in the topic.


This is actually nonsensical. Not Tammy-related, but why on Earth would you think this is a good plan? Yeah, let's have the vig claim and then have the RBer RB them, because:

A) The vig would totally agree to this /sarcasm
B) This would be a complete waste of town money, which is anti-town
C) This would be a waste of a town-directed kill. Rather, you should be asking the vig to save the shot for later in the game if you have the concerns you are expressing

This post just looks like you are trying to look helpful by suggesting things but they are not well-thought at all and just show to me that you aren't trying to help town but rather you are trying to look like you're helping town.

In post 97, Seanald wrote:I've seen her do this before and she turned up town so pulling the vote for now.


And this is the nail in the coffin. You voted her for doing this and now you're pulling your vote for it. It does not make sense. The fact that you are pulling your vote as soon as the Tammy wagon is losing momentum and the BBmolla wagon is picking up steam is the epitome of opportunism.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:18 pm

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AND you didn't place your vote on BBmolla immediately, even though you said:

"Anyway. Does BBmolla fall under Lynch all Liars and Lynch all Millers right now?"
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Post Post #102 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:19 pm

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^THAT is the actual nail on the coffin.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:37 pm

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94 is more "OMG THAT WAS A TERRIBLE SUGGESTION THERE'S NO WAY TOWN WOULD PROPOSE THIS," which is not a very strong point but I wanted to point it out nonetheless.

The buddying thing isn't a major concern of mine, but it was kind of bizarre how he phrased the buddying.

My MAJOR concerns are his vote on Tammy and subsequent, unwarranted unvote of her at an opportunistic time, his awkward aggression towards her, and his lack of vote on BBmolla after his statement about him
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Post Post #110 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:48 pm

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Do NOT shoot Tammy PLEASE

Please shoot Seanald. Or VM as a compromise.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:50 pm

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BBmolla, you know I have pretty good reads generally. Tammy is currently my 2nd strongest townread only to Mehdi. Soooo take that for whatever it's worth.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:54 pm

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Seanald, here's your golden moment were you get to WIFOM the shit out of us until your death <3 :p
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Post Post #119 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:00 pm

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Gentleman:

1) Why is VM town?
2) Do you understand why I told you not to post?
3) Your case on Seanald is just a portion of mine copied verbatim meany
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Post Post #126 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:08 pm

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In post 121, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:We'll explain the town-read on VM in a few minutes, Empires being slow putting it all together (He's a noob like that). And you wanted us to refrain from posting so you could reaction-test without us ruining it. We were going to hold of posting until about page 8ish and then come in with a shitload of reads but the concept of VM being suspected and potentially vigged was too stupid to stand back during.

Just to be clear, I don't have you as a townread, nor do I have GreyICE as a townread, but you are both people that will not give me alignment-indicative responses to my Tammy push and will only take away from the amount of early early game phase reactions I can get. Take that as a compliment.

Anyway, I'm going to sleep. I'll read your VM town case in the morning.

Pedit: Mehdi, Molla-alignment discussion was so 3 pages ago.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:17 pm

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Tammy, just to be very clear, you aren't getting lynched today. But maybe what would help you get out of this bind would be to focus less on being SnarkyMcSnarkSnark and more on scumhunting???

OK GNIGHT 4 REAL
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Post Post #132 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:19 pm

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Wait really quickly BBmolla does your kill end day phase?
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Post Post #191 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:31 am

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Ok, I would like to start by stating that if this game is anywhere near proportional to the last game, there are probably 8 mafia.

In post 135, GreyICE wrote:
In post 132, SlumberPartyBois wrote:Wait really quickly BBmolla does your kill end day phase?

Wait you're taking this bullshit claim seriously?

-_-

unvote molla


vote: spb


Why would I not take it seriously? It's a role that can and will be proven within the next few game pages. Other than a double-voter role, it is the second most quickly confirmable role.

In post 144, Mehdi2277 wrote:Matt/kanye when you get back on I'm interested in your read of grey (same thing to reg/sat).


Why specifically would you like to know my read on greygnarl?

In post 146, Mehdi2277 wrote:Currently it's really split on two wagons, so on sean my town read of him to be clearer is based on this:

In post 73, Seanald wrote:second time you've convinced me your town within 2 pages


Fairly short statement, but for now it outweighs some of the other things when taken into some context with the reference being to micro 47 (only 4 pages to skim through to understand the reference). Coming from his first post with that game being pretty recent the remark comes off as very genuine.


I will tell you that I do not find that indicative of either alignment, and certainly not a strong enough case to give him any sort of townread when taking into account his voting and behavior towards Tammy and lack of vote on BBmolla.

In post 150, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 110, SlumberPartyBois wrote:Do NOT shoot Tammy PLEASE

Please shoot Seanald. Or VM as a compromise.

Wut. I like the case on Seanald and all, but where did that come from?


Call it a HUNCH. However, I have several bigger scumreads than you now, so we can worry about this later.

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My "Hopefully They Die Soon" List:
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MoI
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Post Post #197 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:55 am

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I would actually prefer you kill MoI or GreyICE, BBmolla. We can easily direct a Seanald lynch, MoI and GreyICE will be less fun to do that with
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Post Post #205 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:09 am

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In post 48, GreyICE wrote:
Vote: Salamance20


Not RVS


Ok, this is fine. Until:

In post 84, GreyICE wrote:
In post 81, BBmolla wrote:Kids I'm a bum, I started with no money, I don't even know how the auction shit works cause I sat out of it last night due to nomoney.

I'm a miller cause I'm a bum in a marketplace. I don't fit in and it's obvious.

If it's relevent, investigations on me return "Mafia" not "Guilty".

Vote: BBMolla


This. Never even explains the non-RVS vote on Sala.

This bothers me. I think he would have returned to it at some point if it was a serious vote he really cared about. It just makes me think that it was a bullshit vote from the start, and the way he handled it has a scummy tinge to it. I would actually like to hear GreyICE's explanation for the Sala vote.

In post 91, GreyICE wrote:By the way, does anyone see too much of a disadvantage with the following plan?

1) The person who won the roleblocker claims
2) if they claim, the person who won the night kill claims

Then we can direct the night kill, if town actually won it?


This is the same as my point on Seanald. Terrible suggestion. I don't like it. It makes me not like him.

In post 135, GreyICE wrote:
In post 132, SlumberPartyBois wrote:Wait really quickly BBmolla does your kill end day phase?

Wait you're taking this bullshit claim seriously?

-_-

unvote molla


vote: spb


This sucks. His explanation:

In post 137, GreyICE wrote:Scum usually take town claims seriously. Even if they're utter obvious horseshit. The town don't lie bs gets stuck in their head.

I don't believe this bum horseshit, it's not a real role, but spb taking it seriously means he's probably scum and we can sort BB out later.


I don't like it because he is being incredibly 2-D in his scumhunting. "Scum trust townclaims" is sometimes true, but not when someone claims a daykiller and you can test whether or not they are telling the truth. It's weird that he jumped on me for such flimsy reasoning off of BBmolla. And it's weird that he jumped off of BBmolla from Sala prior to elaborating on his Sala vote. His vote jumps have been scummy and undeveloped. In face, he barely if ever explands on any reads or scumhunts (sans this one time he explains why my trust in BBmolla is scummy, that is).

pedit:
@BBMOLLA: You should just discuss the daykill with Gentlemen Bastards and I. Not because he's my only townread, but because he's my only townread I consider coherent enough to actually direct it in a positive manner. I'd recommend GreyICE (I mean, MoI is my top top choice because he is the most annoying to ever get lynched and I have him as a medium scumread so it would spare me the trouble)
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Post Post #207 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:11 am

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Definitely do not daykill Seanald. He is the lynch today. I will be strongly advocating his lynch immediately following your daykill use. It would be a waste.
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Post Post #209 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:13 am

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That's not very good reasoning to not shoot him ._.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:18 am

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Yeah, GreyICE is a fine compromise. If you think GreyICE is scummier than MoI, I say go for it.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:28 am

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In post 231, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 228, StefanB wrote:As far as I know, every player was offered a QT because mechanics. (only between them and the mod)


Then clearly you don't know as much as you think. Not a single PM (my role PM or my back and forths with Magua on my bids Night 0) from Magua has it been explicitly offered to me by him for him to set-up a QT for me.

@Magua - Please confirm or deny that all Town players were offered a QT of your creation.

Yep, as I said, MoI is scum. I also don't like how he is ignoring the fact that I'm pushing hardest for his daykill.

I have a bunch of townreads but I don't feel it's beneficial to point them out unless needed. It just boosts player's confidence and if they're not town they will sure as hell find it easier to look it when they know people think they are.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:33 am

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No, MoI is being daykilled. Seanald is the NK.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:40 am

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In post 243, greygnarl wrote:Lynch? If molla and Magua post and MoI isn't dead the molla is lynched after him.
Yeah, lynch*
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Post Post #251 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:06 am

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In post 248, Pitty wrote:And yeah, I'll admit Mag wasn't very vocal about starting up a QT with us, but it says very clearly in both the town and scum PM that one may ask for a private QT with the mod,

where was this posted? i could have sworn i heard magua say something along those lines but ive been searching all over for it and cant find it.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:08 am

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SORRY
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Post Post #255 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:09 am

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In post 248, Pitty wrote:but it says very clearly in both the town and scum PM that one may ask for a private QT with the mod

Huh?
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Post Post #257 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:10 am

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Ooooh Kanye and Gentlemen beat me to it :p
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Post Post #258 (isolation #47) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:11 am

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: - D
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Post Post #269 (isolation #48) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:29 am

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That's 8 votes on Seanald. L-3

I would like noone else to vote until BBmolla daykills MoI.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #49) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:29 am

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I am ready for the shoot. I don't think Gentlemen is though so I'd refrain.
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Post Post #274 (isolation #50) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:36 am

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wait until tonight at least to send the kill. i actually would like moi to have at least a chance to respond to all this shit. am fine with smashing the fuck out of seanald as soon as the vig is done though.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #51) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:09 pm

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In post 279, greygnarl wrote:Who claimed they had the nightkill? slumber is asking shit that's confusing me.

pedit kk

whats confusing you mate? about when matt said nk earlier? he clarified that he meant to say lynch. no one has claimed nk it is unknown whether the nk is in scum or town hands.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #52) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:11 pm

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In post 281, D3f3nd3r wrote:Two posts. 24 hours. No walls of text.


Idk why two posts this early put a target on my back.

so why is your 4th post 12 pages into the game completely worthless?
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Post Post #292 (isolation #53) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:39 pm

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ah, yah. sry4 the confusion : ]
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Post Post #305 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:46 pm

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In post 297, Mehdi2277 wrote:When did he become your strongest town read?

When the following happened:

1) All of his reasoning for his Seanald and MoI reads match mine (specifically for MoI talking about MoI's reads being bad)
2) When I saw the fact that the two heads are genuinely and organically working together to scumhunt

In any case,
I think the doc should flip a coin and if it lands on heads should protect GB and if it lands on tails should protect me.
I think we both are scumhunting well, are pretty general townreads, and have led the wagon on Seanald-scum and me more so on MoI daykill. I think we are both high priority scum NK targets and will probably not both make it to tomorrow.

By the way, let's all take a moment here and realize that Seanald has been posting elsewhere but not here when he is the leading wagon and has a sizable case against himself.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:49 pm

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like to add that both of our heads feel strongly about him being town. see literally the like 3 times today when he went to post the exact same thing as me 5 seconds after i did. they are thinking about the game much in the way that we are.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:47 pm

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In post 313, GreyICE wrote:And if we're policy lynching, it's 100% BBMolla. His claim is VERY similar to the claim I used last game. The reason that scum claim to have zero income is that they can hide the fact that they're winning auctions on things that are anti-town. The fact that he ALSO claimed miller... it's basically the perfect scum claim. If the town buys it. And he 110% has to die before endgame, like all millers. So that's the proper policy lynch.


are you still going to want to policy lynch him if he proves his dayvig ?
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Post Post #315 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:48 pm

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GreyICE, why are you ignoring my push on you?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:50 pm

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In post 317, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:VM - Your right I am better. Stress is taking a lot on my life as well. And can someone tell me what is going on here on how Senald got majority right now?

See post 100-102ish
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Post Post #332 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:17 pm

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Uhhh I think Regfan is town town town and he is a better player than you, no offense bro. I think you're scum and you're annoying and therefore it's much easier to daykill you and not have to deal with the stress of trying to get you killed.

Kanye and I agree you are playing much below your intelligence with this complete refusal to acknowledge the possibility of BBmolla being a daykiller, your calling Seanald a "policy lynch" when a whole case was presented on him (which you can disagree with the case but you cannot in your right mind called in a PL).

You are poison to the game. You are scum. But unfortunately you'll live until D2 because MoI and Seanald are higher priorities.

pedit: I don't understand why on Earth you are trying to claim BBmolla is an anti-town faction when he has a daykill ready to use. You can't wait to discuss that shit until he's used it?
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Post Post #333 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:17 pm

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^This was all in reference to GreyICE
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Post Post #339 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:25 pm

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Yeah, I am buddying up to GB. Yeah, I have him as an incredibly strong townread. What exactly is your point? Is that scummy to you? Sorry to pull meta out on you, but I in almost every game I play do this with strong townreads, in some cases even fakeclaiming masons with strong townreads. I trust my strong townreads because I trust my ability to read people.

pedit: That post was not Kanye, that was MattP. Let me reword it for you, GreyICE:

  • Uhhh I think Regfan is town town town and he is a better player than you, no offense bro. I think you're scum and you're annoying and therefore it's much easier to daykill you and not have to deal with the stress of trying to get you killed.

    Kanye and I agree you are playing much below your intelligence with this complete refusal to acknowledge the possibility of BBmolla being a daykiller
    AND
    your calling Seanald a "policy lynch" when a whole case was presented on him (which you can disagree with the case but you cannot in your right mind called in a PL).

    You are poison to the game. You are scum. But unfortunately you'll live until D2 because MoI and Seanald are higher priorities.

    pedit: I don't understand why on Earth you are trying to claim BBmolla is an anti-town faction when he has a daykill ready to use. You can't wait to discuss that shit until he's used it?


Let me also add this: your ideas and pushes so far have all sucked and won't generate any support other than from greygnarl.

PEDIT: Mehdi, I am not PLing Seanald, end of story.

PEDIT2: Holy shit GB, stop parroting everything I say :p
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Post Post #342 (isolation #62) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:28 pm

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In post 341, GreyICE wrote:
In post 339, SlumberPartyBois wrote:Let me also add this: your ideas and pushes so far have all sucked and won't generate any support other than from greygnarl.


Are you taunting me that I can't get you lynched, scumboy? I take that as a personal challenge

Try your fucking hardest.

You saying that my posts have been shitty posts just shows you're spewing propaganda / not reading anything. Your posts have all sucked ass and I look forward to when I get you lynched. Unfortunately for you this is waiting until after a Seanald lynch, princess.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:32 pm

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In post 343, GreyICE wrote:Oh MattP, I remember how badly wrong you were in Revolution mafia.

And you still have the nerve to throw that ego in my face.

You do have some moderately large balls, scumbag.

But only moderately.

"You were wrong about Revolution Mafia and you're wrong now"

"You're scum"

I don't see how these two posts don't call for me being both town and scum simultaneously.

Although it's cute that you are trying to make me feel nervous about my read on you by throwing Rev Mafia in my face.
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Post Post #346 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:33 pm

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Mehdi, no offense, but if you don't have a null to null-scum read on GreyICE at BEST then you are horribly confused.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:33 pm

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EBWOP: These two POINTS*** not POSTS
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Post Post #355 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:48 pm

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WHATS WITH ALL THESE READ LISTS I DONT UNDERSTAND
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Post Post #374 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:02 pm

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Did you submit it for GreyICE, MoI, or Seanald?
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Post Post #387 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:12 pm

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Oh hot Molla is town

Pedit: I don't know why you're calling me a douchebag.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:44 pm

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I don't actually think I'm that great. I don't think I'm a VI but I certainly don't think I'm a master player or anything. I use it to get people to listen to me, and it works, but that's very different than me actually believing it myself.

Like, people sheep me a lot, which helps me get shit done. So I use it. Whether it's because people think I'm a good player of because they follow my cases on people idk.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:00 am

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i love u molla im so sorry 4 ever dobuting u
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Post Post #397 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:01 am

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HEY GREY WOULD U LIKE TO REEVALUATE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS GAME M8?
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Post Post #398 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:03 am

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lets do our organizing (i actu. agree with organizing and greyice shouting 4 it as well is the only thing that has me not fully agreeing w. matt on scum greyice) and then we can lynch this obvscum and have a gr8 time.

oracle needs to claim right fucking now and that we havent had it yet is kind of leading me to believe its in scum hands.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #73) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:03 am

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also no investigation immunity claim yet either clearly means its in scum hands
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Post Post #400 (isolation #74) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:06 am

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also think we can be pretty certain were dealing with two teams of 4 scum given that there is a kill in play that they do not and cannot control.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #75) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:31 am

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2 clarify, are you advocating lynching molla today?
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Post Post #404 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:37 am

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it is.
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Post Post #405 (isolation #77) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:38 am

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maybe i should rephrase it for you. are you advocating lynching the confirmed dayvig who is willing to let us control his daykills right now today on day 1 after he just shot scum for us?

i hope that was less confusing.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:42 am

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BBmolla may very well be a third party, but I have no interest in lynching him right now because his tone was very towny today.

Seanald is still the lynch for today.

Also, I generally love BBmolla very much because he's a hero and heroes never die.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:39 am

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why are you so eager to paint the shot as luck?
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Post Post #420 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:00 am

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It's cute when the people pushing for the MoI daykill (GB, myself and Sala) all had MoI as genuine scumreads but yeah, it was "just luck"
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Post Post #423 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:27 am

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In post 422, MattP wrote:Heh ok
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Post Post #461 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:27 am

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Also, I've been pretty transparent / town this game. I think it's my most town game I've played so far on this site. This isn't me trying to flaunt my town alignment, but rather I'm trying to say that I feel that if you look at my tone / intentions / transparency this round you'll probably have a town read on me, and that this MoI stuff is just tunnel-view paranoia.
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Post Post #465 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:43 am

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In post 462, Mehdi2277 wrote:Matt/kanye (I think that last post was matt, but not sure) how is your read on sean affected by moi's flip?

MoI's flip in no way alters my read on Seanald, who is scum and will be lynched today.

By the way, if anyone is ever unsure if it's me or Kanye posting, I capitalize and use proper grammar, and Kanye does not.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:32 am

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WHAT

THE

FUCK

WE ARE VOTING SEANALD TODAY
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Post Post #496 (isolation #85) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:33 am

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Listen,

Defender case is that he is lurking. Seanald case actually has a LOT more to it, we can lynch Defender tomorrow, please vote Seanald today >.<
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Post Post #503 (isolation #86) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:35 am

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It honestly looks like Seanald is being defended by his scumbuddies. This does not mean that Defender isn't scum, because there are two factions, but it sure as hell looks like this is an attempt to save Seanald. He has a much stronger case against him, people are either being lazy or scum.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:37 am

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In post 505, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:
In post 496, SlumberPartyBois wrote:Listen,

Defender case is that he is lurking. Seanald case actually has a LOT more to it, we can lynch Defender tomorrow, please vote Seanald today >.<

Matt, that's not even close to the case, if you're going to give GreyICE shit for not fully reading cases you can't do the same thing. The Defender case has to do with the fact that his posts contain little to no contain and mostly fluff posting as well as the fact that
he thought Stefans QT post was a 'slip' which is literally the exact same thing we caught MoI for, he didn't even consider that it was the bidding QT offered to us and hasn't commented on it since.

I didn't see this >.>

Link please
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Post Post #509 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:41 am

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All right, fine.

Here is what I advise once again:

Doctor please flip a coin. Head protect me, tails protect GB
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Post Post #511 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:43 am

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BTW Greygnarl, why the fuck do you suddenly have a townread on me?
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Post Post #515 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:50 am

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dont we need to finish organizing before we hammer a lynch through (whether it be seanald or defender)
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Post Post #516 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:50 am

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Don't hammer yet anyone, kanye and I are discussing some things.

pedit: What kanye said
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Post Post #525 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:59 am

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FUCKING STOP SALA
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Post Post #526 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:59 am

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SOMEONE UNVOTE WE ARE ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING
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Post Post #528 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:00 am

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SALA YOU ARE SERIOUSLY AN IDIOT WHAT THE FUCK I JUST SAID WE WERE ORGANIZING SOMETHING YOU ARE A JERK
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Post Post #530 (isolation #95) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:01 am

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Thank you. Making post.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #96) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:01 am

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tyvm salachan,
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Post Post #534 (isolation #97) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:03 am

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We are the Roleblocker

Here's what needs to happen:

Every single player has to say if they are or are not the NKer.

Doctor
MUST
50/50 protect us/GB if the NKer does not come forward.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #98) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:04 am

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it was of debatable merit. matt and i discussed it and finally decided it was worth sharing.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #99) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:09 am

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In post 540, MattP wrote:Yeah, if Defender claims NKer he is lynched regardless.

fuckin matt
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Post Post #543 (isolation #100) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:10 am

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In post 540, MattP wrote:Yeah, if Defender claims NKer he is lynched regardless.

:blush:

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Post Post #545 (isolation #101) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:11 am

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no,that was me, kanye. close tho
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Post Post #549 (isolation #102) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:16 am

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Sala, save your double vote. We will hammer.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #103) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:48 am

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In post 559, greygnarl wrote:Slumber please explain why you would not want Sala to burn off the extra vote?

Because I have him as a strong townread?
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Post Post #566 (isolation #104) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:53 am

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we dont have investigation immunity either. also pls change our name in the table to 'the bois' tyvm
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Post Post #567 (isolation #105) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:54 am

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its very imp. 2 me
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Post Post #569 (isolation #106) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:55 am

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<3
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Post Post #578 (isolation #107) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:20 pm

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you werent going to be lynched today. why did you claim cop 2day as opposed to 2morrow when lynch would be a concern?
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Post Post #594 (isolation #108) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:37 pm

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want to hear from greyice on our organization before we go through with the lynch since he was so vocal about it previously.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #109) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:43 pm

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yo elmo claim nk or no nk turdlord.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #110) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:45 pm

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imho i think the seanald situ will work itself out. im not really concerned about figuring it out right now.
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Post Post #602 (isolation #111) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:46 pm

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In post 600, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:
In post 597, Mehdi2277 wrote:And reg how about telling a scummy player to spend all their money on the NK. If they're town scum will then be forced to choose between shooting a scummy player or let a town have the NK. If we can force scum to shoot the new vig that protects other roles like sean and it can be a way to direct the night kill on scummy players we'd have wanted to lynch.

I don't want a scum-read getting night-kill, don't trust them with it and they can easily just say 'was outbid' and lie.

epic this. if were directing bidding on the nk i want it done by a town read.;
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Post Post #604 (isolation #112) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:51 pm

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we blew our wad on the roleblock, were probably not winning anything that scum want to contest tonight fyi.
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Post Post #608 (isolation #113) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:58 pm

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:I
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Post Post #610 (isolation #114) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:00 pm

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I refuse to have VM buy it. That leaves you, Mehdi. Sorry babe.

PEDIT: Don't answer Sea's question, Mehdi.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #115) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:04 pm

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also would not mind steven having it
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Post Post #615 (isolation #116) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:04 pm

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In post 611, Mehdi2277 wrote:Matt just trust me in I have an idea that's more important to do then immunity for me.

Oooh, I was referring to you buying the NK

PEDIT: I agree with KKB, Stephan can buy invest immunity or NK, IDGAF either
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Post Post #616 (isolation #117) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:05 pm

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oh yeah if were talking nk and one of us has the cash to do it, definitely ace up on that
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Post Post #618 (isolation #118) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:08 pm

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i still want to hear from grey b4 we lynch
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Post Post #623 (isolation #119) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:17 pm

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Sala, $5 is not worth us doing this impatiently. This is very important. Knowing whether the NK was purchased by scum or not determines whether or not the doctor and the RBer (us) should be using our abilities tonight, which is worth much more than $5. Please be patient. Thank you.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #120) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:17 pm

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Uh Sala should have the double vote ability cuz if we are in a 2v1 lylo and he's in it was the double vote that would win us the game. There is no reason to ever use it because it can gamebreak/force scum to NK him over a stronger player (no offense Sala)
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Post Post #696 (isolation #121) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:41 am

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HERE ARE THE PEOPLE I WANT TO TRANSFER THEIR MONEY TO OTHER PLAYERS:
  • ELMO
    GREYICE
    GUILLE
    VOIDEDMAFIA
    PITTY
    EIDOLIN
    PHILAMMON
    SEANALD


If I did not list you, you are a town read (other than Defender who is dying).

We can force players that are not town reads to transfer their money. If they don't it's a scumclaim. Sure, scum won't have to transfer everything but they will have to transfer the amount that they would have as town, which fucks them over. THIS IS HOW WE BREAK THIS GAME. IF ALL NON-TOWN READS AGREE TO THIS, EVEN IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY TOWN, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE GROUP, WE WIN.

If I did not list you you are a town read of mine. This includes:
  • BBmolla (at least he's not scum)
    Mehdi
    Stefan
    Peregrine
    Tazaro
    greygnarl
    Tammy
    Salamence
    Gentlemen Bastards


Here are the specific transfers I advise:

  • Elmo transfers to Mehdi
    GreyICE transfers to Stefan
    Guille transfers to Peregrine
    VM transfers to Tazaro
    Pitty transfers to greygnarl
    Eidolin transfers to Tammy
    Philammon transfers to Salamence
    Seanald transfers to Gentlemen Bastards


Why should we do it this way:

  • This way we can specifically track each player and how much they are transfering. Each player that is transfering will state how much money they currently have. They then transfer at night to their designated player. The next day the townread confirms or denies that the transaction occurred. We are:

    1) Then depleting money from scum
    2) Forcing scum reads to transfer at night which prevents them from bidding or investing since you can only do one thing a night

    This will completely fuck over scum and God forbid one of my townreads is scum chances are the majority of my reads are right and at least a few scum at worst will be bound to do something that fucks them over and helps town.


THOUGHTS?
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Post Post #697 (isolation #122) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:43 am

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CHANGE
Pitty transfers to greygnarl
TO
pitty transfers to SlumberPartyBois
NO OFFENSE GREYGNARL
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Post Post #701 (isolation #123) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:55 am

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You're not exactly in a position to contest to the plan, considering you're in the "not town" pile.

Scum will say no to this plan, or lightly push against it at the very least. It FUCKS UP SCUM completely:

1) GB is obvtown for his play and if you disagree you're scum
2) Tammy has been playing a very transparent, towny game and her response to my push early day was a town response
3) The fact that I would even suggest this game-breaking plan means that either my scumteam is in my town list or I am actually town, so figure that out for yourself
4) Stefan is pretty much conftown for the QT thing
5) Mehdi is so damn transparent as town that you would have to be downright braindead to not know she is town
6) Tazaro is admittedly not a VERY strong townread, but it's my only one on this list that isn't and I'm willing to take the chance with one read in exchange to fuck over the rest of scum
7) Peregrine is town town town for a lot of grame-breaking discussion and he's been playing a very intellectual game that has a stronger thought progression that at least 90% of the player list
8) Salamence is obv fucking town and I'm not gonna say why

There is no reason town would be against this. Fine, a lot of people have VM as a townread, but I don't, and I think we can agree on these 8 players. BBmolla and greygnarl can do whatever the fuck they want, they're probably both town or at least night scum so whatever.

This is a very decent list. This will fuck scum in the ass. Scum will fight against it. Don't let them win.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #124) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:56 am

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In post 700, Eidolon wrote:oh sh!t.

ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o

i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.

SCUM.

HHAHAHHAHAHAHA.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #125) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:57 am

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EBWOP: At least NOT scum, not "at least night scum"
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Post Post #705 (isolation #126) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:58 am

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I'm sorry I broke this game :p
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Post Post #711 (isolation #127) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:05 am

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In post 709, MattP wrote:
In post 706, greygnarl wrote:I say no transfer to Tazaro or Stefan. Give multiples to Sala and GB.

Also, Fuck you Sala: I was wanting Sixth Sense.
Uh Stefan first brought the the QT PM thing meaning he is town.

Tazaro I can cater to.
In post 707, guille2015 wrote:
Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

Uhhh why?
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Post Post #715 (isolation #128) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:08 am

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In post 713, Eidolon wrote:why would i bring up a unique utility of my role pm if i were lying? i'm not a dumb enough scum to contest in such a way to a plan that could easily have possibly been dismantled had i waited some time.

Nah it's just part of my role. deal with it.

You would because you'll be caught tomorrow otherwise when your assigned player doesn't get his money lol
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Post Post #723 (isolation #129) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:12 am

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Ok revised based on current qualms:


PEOPLE I WANT TO TRANSFER THEIR MONEY TO OTHER PLAYERS:
  • ELMO
    GREYICE
    GUILLE
    VOIDEDMAFIA
    PITTY
    EIDOLIN
    PHILAMMON
    SEANALD


PLAYERS NOT TRANSFERRING
OR
RECEIVING MONEY:
  • BBMOLLA
    GREYGNARL
    TAZARO
    MEHDI


PLAYERS RECEIVING MONEY:
  • Stefan
    Peregrine
    SlumberPartyBois
    Tammy
    Salamence
    Gentlemen Bastards


Can we agree on this?
Question, should greygnarl and tazaro transfer their money just in case they are scum in order to tie them up or should we have them go after items on the market?


I will coordinate the pairings when we have come upon an agreement
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Post Post #726 (isolation #130) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:14 am

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In post 724, guille2015 wrote:
In post 709, MattP wrote:
In post 707, guille2015 wrote:
Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

Uhhh why?

If he were scum/sk planning this, he would make a killing.

Eeexcept I bought the RBing ability, you really think I would buy both SK and RB and you really really think I would be scum based off of my play (since I assume you've been reading)

I mean, your logic is piss poor, but I'm interested to hear more of it
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Post Post #728 (isolation #131) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:16 am

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Yes, actually, I agree with GB, each player should transfer to one other player so that we don't lose funds.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #132) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:27 am

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Composing finalized list. Please be patient. TY boys and girls.
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Post Post #744 (isolation #133) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:28 am

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here is why it doesnt matter if we have 1 or 2 scum in our town list: the players getting money should have enough, hands down, to win their targeted items.

this means that they will be accountable for the item the win. they cannot win the nightkill and then use it how they please because everyone will know that they have it. so even if scum is on the receiving end here, they will have trouble fully exercising their ability to make use of it.

also we should be having only one transfer per town read so that in the event of a lie, there are only two possible spots to check, making a scum lie a 1 for 1 trade instead of a potential 1 for 2 trade.

i am also in favor of having greygnarl and mehdi on the recipient lists.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #134) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:38 am

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PEOPLE I WANT TO TRANSFER THEIR MONEY TO OTHER PLAYERS:
  • 1) ELMO
    2) GREYICE
    3) GUILLE
    4) VOIDEDMAFIA
    5) PITTY
    6) EIDOLIN
    7) PHILAMMON
    8) SEANALD


PLAYERS NOT TRANSFERRING
OR
RECEIVING MONEY:
  • 1) BBMOLLA
    2) MEHDI


PLAYERS RECEIVING MONEY:
  • 1) Stefan
    2) Peregrine
    3) SlumberPartyBois
    4) Tammy
    5) Salamence
    6) Gentlemen Bastards
    7) greygnarl
    8) Tazaro


The reason we need 1 for 1 is because say 1 player receives funds from two people. The two people have $100 and $150. According to the 95% rule, the player receiving should get about $240. Let's say they only receive $220. That means one of the players giving was fucking with them OR the person receiving is lying. Then we have to possibly go through TWO mislynches to find the scum. It leads to too much uncertainty. We need 1 person giving to 1 other person at a time.

I am now going to list the scum and the town from most to least scummy each:

SCUM (Top = most scummy)
  • 1) Eidolin
    2) Seanald
    3) Guille
    4) Phillamon
    5) Elmo
    6) VoidedMafia
    7) GreyICE
    8) Pitty


^For this list they're pretty much all scummy as fuck to me so it was hard to rank them at all

TOWN (Top = most towny)
  • 1) Stephan
    2) Gentleman Bastards
    3) SlumberPartyBois (this is based off of the majority of player's lists, trying to be unbiased here)
    4) Salamence
    5) Tammy
    6) Peregrine
    7) greygnarl
    8) Tazaro


To finish, I will pair up the most scummy players with the most towny players, and so on so that we have heightened accuracy for the more scummy players since we know the town players will be honest:

TRANSFER FROM _____ TO ______:
  • Eidolin to Stephan
    Seanald to Gentlemen Bastard
    Guille to SlumberPartyBois
    Philammon to Salamence
    Elmo to Tammy
    Voided to Peregrine
    GreyICE to greygnarl
    Pitty to Tazaro


    • THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS MUST ELECTRONICALLY SIGN THE FOLLOWING AGREEMENT IN RED:

      I, _______, AGREE WITH THIS TRANSACTION MATCHUP.


      PLAYERS:
      SlumberPartyBois
      Gentlemen Bastards
      StephanB
      Salamence
      Tammy
      PeregrineV
      greygnarl
      Tazaro
      Mehdi
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Post Post #753 (isolation #135) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:39 am

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I, SlumberPartyBois, AGREE WITH THIS TRANSACTION MATCHUP.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #136) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:39 am

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This is me being all OFFICIAL and shit
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Post Post #761 (isolation #137) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:43 am

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ONCE AT LEAST TWO-THIRDS OF THE 9 PLAYERS LISTED (6) HAVE AGREED TO THE MATCHUPS WE WILL HAVE ALL 8 PLAYERS TRANSFERRING MONEY CLAIM HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY THEY DID AS THEY WERE TOLD TOMORROW.

Pedit: Fixing now, GB

PEDIT: I told you all GreyICE was scum
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Post Post #767 (isolation #138) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:46 am

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TRANSFER FROM _____ TO ______:
  • Pitty to Stephan
    Seanald to Gentlemen Bastard
    Guille to SlumberPartyBois
    Philammon to Salamence
    Elmo to Tammy
    Voided to Peregrine
    GreyICE to greygnarl


PLAYERS NOT DOING ANYTHING:
  • Eidolin
    BBmolla
    Tazaro
    Mehdi
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Post Post #784 (isolation #139) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:53 am

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In post 774, MattP wrote:
In post 768, GreyICE wrote:Also we're transfering money onto scum, guaranteed.

"Also, when I am killed in the next two days, here is some WIFOM to make you doubt your townreads."

Are you seriously catering to this, GB?

In post 780, MattP wrote:
In post 776, Mehdi2277 wrote:I honestly don't think eid is scum play wise even though the claim is bad, so for now I'll make a decision based on her continuing play.

Bois what do you want to do with bidding? That previous list doesn't work for people who now have to transfer instead of bid so doing a new blank list now would be good.

Yes, it would be good to remake the list, keeping the players where they are that are not transferring (such as stephan on NK)

PEDIT: Even if it is delayed we have our lynch, GreyICE for tomorrow now thanks to his response to this plan. It's fine, the info will help us starting the following day.

In post 782, MattP wrote:
In post 777, GreyICE wrote:
In post 771, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:
In post 768, GreyICE wrote:Also we're transfering money onto scum, guaranteed.

Then tell me who you don't want receiving money and for what reason. Also want to know what you make of Eilodons claim.

What did Eidilon claim?

StephanB, seems questionable at best, and PeregrineV's claim to fame is that he bought Oracles and told us about it.

I don't even know who Tazaro is.

Waiiiiit I thought you had a scumread on me?


These were all me. Fucking hydra :(
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Post Post #786 (isolation #140) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:54 am

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In post 783, guille2015 wrote:BTW, full disclosure I invested all of my money last night.

I like this. You are now much less scummy to me.
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Post Post #793 (isolation #141) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:59 am

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In post 791, PeregrineV wrote:Taz or Mehdi should be advertising the crap out of the power we want night3 (cop, Doc, oracle, Track, watch, whatever). The rest they can transfer between them.

Yep, agreed.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #142) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:12 am

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Just to be clear, I am going to push VEHEMENTLY for GreyICE's lynch tomorrow.

VERY VERY vehemently.
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Post Post #811 (isolation #143) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:14 am

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We will be claiming amounts today.
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Post Post #857 (isolation #144) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:38 pm

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We don't have much money because of purchasing the RBer ability for $70.

We should therefore go for something of least importance. AKA not Banker or Sartor

Therefore I'll go after Tracker or MoNa, any suggestions? I'd say Tracker so that someone with more money can go after MoNa.

Pedit: Well tough noodles Pitty cuz we are pretty broke right now.
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Post Post #858 (isolation #145) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:39 pm

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BTW why is MoNa of any more importance than Banker?
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Post Post #861 (isolation #146) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:54 pm

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In post 667, PeregrineV wrote:total $$$ all players have, minus the money they don't have on them

In post 671, PeregrineV wrote:Banker tells how much money total exists that is not elsewhere.

In post 683, PeregrineV wrote:Banker is not just one person

not seeing banker as being too powerful.

were scum able to transfer abilities in the last game? also this would work for any ability scum have, not jsut the nk. not a huge priority but still more important than banker imho. def not as important as tailor tho
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Post Post #862 (isolation #147) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:54 pm

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2nd para ref. 2 ninja ofc.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #148) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:08 pm

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it really would have been.
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Post Post #867 (isolation #149) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:12 pm

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?? who doesnt want you to have those gnarl? i have you as a pretty decent town read so i dont mind you having either of those. ill admit, theres like 5 pages from today i havent had a chance to read yet so i may have missed something.
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Post Post #871 (isolation #150) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:20 pm

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that brings us back to the fact that we dont have enough funds to reliably take either of those. who would you suggest to take the tailor pitty?
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Post Post #873 (isolation #151) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:24 pm

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mona/tailor can go to tammy/grey. well throw something at follower. that should lock it all up?
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Post Post #875 (isolation #152) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:26 pm

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:I
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Post Post #878 (isolation #153) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:30 pm

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Banker is useful because it's essentially a cop role >.>
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Post Post #879 (isolation #154) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:31 pm

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matt ugh you just dont get it
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Post Post #883 (isolation #155) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:32 pm

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In post 879, SlumberPartyBois wrote:matt ugh you just dont get it

I GET IT NOW I GET IT NOW
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Post Post #886 (isolation #156) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:38 pm

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i seriously dont care who gets tailor. misuse of it will be a scumclaim so,,,,,
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Post Post #899 (isolation #157) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:59 pm

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its fine to give up another fiver to make sure we get this all hammered in. we are most definitely hammering before the end of the next day, however.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #158) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:05 pm

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I TOLD YOU ALL VOIDED WAS MAFIA BUT NOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post Post #903 (isolation #159) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:11 pm

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Yep, I'm willing to let one more day go but after that it's PLs of elmo and voided for the next two days
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Post Post #911 (isolation #160) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:37 pm

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In post 910, MattP wrote:PEREGRINE ADVERTISES COP

SCREW BANKER
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Post Post #916 (isolation #161) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:47 pm

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In post 915, MattP wrote:You read the thread, why are you so confused about the plan?

I'm really bad at this :(
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Post Post #917 (isolation #162) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:48 pm

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the worst.
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Post Post #918 (isolation #163) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:48 pm

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when i hydrad with katsuki he had less hydra slips than you. fucking think about that man.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #164) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:55 pm

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oh hell no do not freaking do that mister.

do not try and stir up trouble for me gentleman ill freakin b so mad @ u
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Post Post #924 (isolation #165) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:25 pm

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matt and i think you are scum. this plan calls for town reads to be recipients of cash from nontown reads. no one who has you as a strong town read has stepped up to say that you are a better recipient than the others that have been proposed as recipients. dont see the issue here? and who cares if mafia drive the price up? if we have to pay in the $200s to take the nk its worth it and it will give us some ideas of who the scum who bid it up that high is. the point with this plan is that we are keeping track of the flow of money and making people accountable for it while stockpiling it on the most likely town players in the game.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #166) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:18 am

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Voided, let me make this clear as day for you:

1) It does not matter why anyone thinks you are scummy right now, we will discuss it tomorrow. The only thing you have to understand is that the 8 players on the mission are considered townier than you. Therefore you will be transferring money.

2) You needing explanation for this is a waste of money. It is not worth it, we will discuss it tomorrow

3) If you do not in your next post agree to the plan proposed then you will be PLd tomorrow, which is against any wincon you have

Think about those things and respond accordingly in your next post. Thanks.
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Post Post #942 (isolation #167) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:31 am

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Just tryin 2 get shit done yo
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Post Post #988 (isolation #168) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:20 am

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motherfucker
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Post Post #989 (isolation #169) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:20 am

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In post 987, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 654, GreyICE wrote:I will say I did bid on the roleblocker, but got outbid. Also tried to drive the price up on the investigation immunity, even though I didn't expect to win (one tactic that worked very well for me in the first game was to drive up the price of auctions I didn't expect to win, to drain the town's money supply. The same concept works in reverse).
In post 832, GreyICE wrote:I'm sorry, $90 plus efficiency. Magua charged me $10 for my bids.

regpire im not seeing the numbers inconsistency from greyice? if he bid his full 100 he should have 90 left.

someone who bid unsuccessfully, did your returned funds come with a decimal or did magua cleanly round/truncate your losses?
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Post Post #990 (isolation #170) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:20 am

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In post 987, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 654, GreyICE wrote:I will say I did bid on the roleblocker, but got outbid. Also tried to drive the price up on the investigation immunity, even though I didn't expect to win (one tactic that worked very well for me in the first game was to drive up the price of auctions I didn't expect to win, to drain the town's money supply. The same concept works in reverse).
In post 832, GreyICE wrote:I'm sorry, $90 plus efficiency. Magua charged me $10 for my bids.

regpire im not seeing the numbers inconsistency from greyice? if he bid his full 100 he should have 90 left.

someone who bid unsuccessfully, did your returned funds come with a decimal or did magua cleanly round/truncate your losses?
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Post Post #993 (isolation #171) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:23 am

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does anyone want to claim bidding for roleblocker/investigation immunity besides greyice?

greyice can you confirm exactly how much you bid on each of these items and how much of your funds you received back from each?
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #172) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:02 am

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VOTE: GreyICE

CMON CMON BOIS AND GIRLS
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #173) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:05 am

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I'm not lynching Elmo right now. We can force more out of him tomorrow. I'm not settling with a sloppy lynch. So if it's not Elmo and it's not GreyICE, I'm willing to go for:

1) VoidedMafia
2) Defender
3) Seanald

You may be able to convince me of Philammon.

Pick from those 3/4
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #174) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:11 pm

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elmo exactly how much was your max bid on investigation immunity and how much did u bid on extra vote?
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #175) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:18 pm

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if elmo has $50 left over consider the following:

he spent $46 on investigation immunity leaving $54 left over he should have.
therefore he lost $4 from bidding. to lose that much he needs to have bid at least $40 on something and lost the bid.
extra vote was won for 31 meaning he could only lose $3 on that.

elmo, do you have an explanation on where you lost your other dollar?


correct me if i am truncating the wrong way, but this seems a little fishy.
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #176) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:22 pm

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vm: can you explain why you are so concerned with our read on you when it has yet to manifest as an actual legitimate threat to you yet?
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #177) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:23 pm

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oh okay. thx 4 clearing that up for me.
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #178) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:24 pm

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not really.
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #179) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:25 pm

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people want to lynch someone who isnt defender is the current issue.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #180) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:49 pm

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In post 1033, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:Matt, if you're there, at least read Regfan's posts regarding Phill and Elmo, they make a shitload of sense especially considering Phill's activity elsewhere.

Aaaaand now I'm back

I haven't read the case for Defender-town, not that it matters anymore
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #181) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:52 pm

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In post 1079, MattP wrote:
Unvote

Magua is literally going to kill me

I was just rushing to unvote and didn't think

I am sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm changing my main's background so that this doesn't happen again

SKEWER ME
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #182) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:52 pm

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Unvote
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #183) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:58 pm

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Unvote unvote unvote!!!!
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #184) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:58 pm

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FUCK 5 EXTRA BUCKS FOR A MISLYNCH WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #185) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:59 pm

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Defender's reaction to his lynch matches his reaction in his previous games VERBATIM.
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #186) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:01 pm

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He hasn't or he wouldn't have told Mehdi to hammer >.>
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #187) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:03 pm

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VOTE: Seanald

This is happening. Right now.
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #188) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:05 pm

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Fine, then Philammon.

If Defender wasn't hammered I have a little proposition.
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #189) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:13 pm

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No, actually, Seanald is dying today. FUCK THAT SHIT.

Kanye and I discussed it. Let's think about it. Seanald is cop, correct?

Seanald also had a terribly scummy early game. I base my strongest reads off of early game play, so Seanald is my strongest scumread.

So scum has cop. Well, fine, it's not like scum cop can do anything, right? WRONG

Scum cop investigates a scummy player and finds them to be scum of the opposing team. The cop tells their scumteam. Their scumteam also bought neighborizer (no town players have claimed to have neighborizer). This makes PERFECT sense as a scum move. Next night, scum neighborizes the scum from the other team. Now the scumteam is twice as powerful.

This is TERRIBLE for us. We are fucked if this happens.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY. EACH PLAYER REMAINING WILL SAY IF THEY ARE OR ARE NOT IN POSSESSION OF THE NEIGHBORIZER ABILITY. IF NOONE CLAIMS NEIGHBORIZER THEN WE LYNCH SEANALD. IF SOMEONE DOES CLAIM NEIGHBORIZER WE DEMAND THAT THEY NEIGHBORIZE ME OR GENTLEMEN BASTARDS (SINCE BOTH OF US ARE BEING PROTECTED TONIGHT AND THEREFORE SCUM CAN'T NK US TO HIDE THE NEIGHBORIZING RESULTS


DEAL?
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #190) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:15 pm

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IDGAF what you think, if Seanald is scum with a cop ability we're fucked if scum has neighborizer. So if scum does have neighborizer (which is a 2x ability) they are neighborizing me and GB
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #191) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:15 pm

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That was in response to greygnarl.
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #192) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:19 pm

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Now was that a good gambit in the least bit? How was deceiving me into thinking that someone conftown had claimed neighborizer a good thing?
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #193) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:54 pm

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three things to begin the day:

scum probably have the doctor.
guile did not transfer his funds to us. he is scum.
seanald is probably scum but we can wait to hear who hell give his report on first.

vote guile
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #194) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:56 pm

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wth.
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #195) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:57 pm

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if scum all decided to not transfer in the hopes that we would say "well they cant all be scum" then lol.
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #196) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:00 pm

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youre right false alarm.

unvote
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #197) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:03 pm

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chill on seanald til he claims. got 2 hear what he says im dieing 2 hear it.
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #198) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:54 pm

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are you claiming doctor voided? who did you doctor last night?
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #199) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:01 pm

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hey you stupid fuck

when the person with the roleblock has you as a top scumread and you have something crucial like doctor, maybe claim it?
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