Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[Eidolon]

oh sh!t.

ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o

i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.

[SlumberPartyBois]

You're not exactly in a position to contest to the plan, considering you're in the "not town" pile.

Scum will say no to this plan, or lightly push against it at the very least. It FUCKS UP SCUM completely:

1) GB is obvtown for his play and if you disagree you're scum
2) Tammy has been playing a very transparent, towny game and her response to my push early day was a town response
3) The fact that I would even suggest this game-breaking plan means that either my scumteam is in my town list or I am actually town, so figure that out for yourself
4) Stefan is pretty much conftown for the QT thing
5) Mehdi is so damn transparent as town that you would have to be downright braindead to not know she is town
6) Tazaro is admittedly not a VERY strong townread, but it's my only one on this list that isn't and I'm willing to take the chance with one read in exchange to fuck over the rest of scum
7) Peregrine is town town town for a lot of grame-breaking discussion and he's been playing a very intellectual game that has a stronger thought progression that at least 90% of the player list
8) Salamence is obv fucking town and I'm not gonna say why

There is no reason town would be against this. Fine, a lot of people have VM as a townread, but I don't, and I think we can agree on these 8 players. BBmolla and greygnarl can do whatever the fuck they want, they're probably both town or at least night scum so whatever.

This is a very decent list. This will fuck scum in the ass. Scum will fight against it. Don't let them win.

[SlumberPartyBois]

oh sh!t.

ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o

i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.

SCUM.

HHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

[Salamence20]

oh sh!t.

ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o

i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.

Ummm. What?

[SlumberPartyBois]

EBWOP: At least NOT scum, not "at least night scum"

[SlumberPartyBois]

I'm sorry I broke this game :p

[greygnarl]

I say no transfer to Tazaro or Stefan. Give multiples to Sala and GB.

Also, Fuck you Sala: I was wanting Sixth Sense.

[guille2015]

I agree with this plan. But I want to point out some flaws.

First, it assumes that most of the mafia are on the Scum read side. Since there are 4-5 mafia left not counting any SK or if defender is mafia. Because they are scum reads, the likely hood of scum being in such a list is high. But there is still a possibility of having mafia in the trusted camp.

It also weakens town as a whole if there are less than ~3 mafia in that group. I think everyone needs to agree to the list and consequently also tie some players to other.

Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

[PeregrineV]

oh sh!t.

ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o

i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.

BBmolla has a box next to his you can have.

[MattP]

I say no transfer to Tazaro or Stefan. Give multiples to Sala and GB.

Also, Fuck you Sala: I was wanting Sixth Sense.

Uh Stefan first brought the the QT PM thing meaning he is town.

Tazaro I can cater to.

Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

Uhhh why?

[guille2015]

Giving multiple transfer to the same person should reduce the chances of Hitting scum, thus reducing flaw #1.

[SlumberPartyBois]

I say no transfer to Tazaro or Stefan. Give multiples to Sala and GB.

Also, Fuck you Sala: I was wanting Sixth Sense.

Uh Stefan first brought the the QT PM thing meaning he is town.

Tazaro I can cater to.

Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

Uhhh why?

[StefanB]

The plan is good. Even if scum is on the list, we have other means to get them.

Guile: Who would you exclude, switching someone?

Eidolon: I think you just voluntered for a full claim, and a fast one, please.

[Eidolon]

oh sh!t.

ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o

i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.

SCUM.

HHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

why would i bring up a unique utility of my role pm if i were lying? i'm not a dumb enough scum to contest in such a way to a plan that could easily have possibly been dismantled had i waited some time.

Nah it's just part of my role. deal with it.

[Mehdi2277]

Matt I'd rather have elmo transfer to GB (or some other town read). There's a specific reason that I've been trying not to say. I'll just say I don't want anyone to give me cash (and I'm not joining the bidding). I'm fine with the rest of the plan though.

[SlumberPartyBois]

why would i bring up a unique utility of my role pm if i were lying? i'm not a dumb enough scum to contest in such a way to a plan that could easily have possibly been dismantled had i waited some time.

Nah it's just part of my role. deal with it.

You would because you'll be caught tomorrow otherwise when your assigned player doesn't get his money lol

[greygnarl]

Obvtown

Sala
GB
Mehdi

Probtown

Pere
Tammy
Stefan
Slumber

Null

Everybody else

Scummy

Elmo
Phil
Sean

Dangerous

GreyICE

Eid: FULLCLAIM

[Eidolon]

the plan is alright (for everyone else, at least) but i also agree that it should be focused to a fewer amount of people, ensuring that the money more likely goes to townies.

[greygnarl]

Totally forgot who Stefan was earlier. He looks pretty town.

[Mehdi2277]

I'll update the table in about 15 minutes as well. Read wise I'm close to the same as before (I don't think eid is scum especially with how she claimed, but she's a weak read so I won't fight against a scum read on her right now).

P-edit: Grey isn't dangerous and I want you to explain that based on all of his play.

[Salamence20]

GreyGnarl: Switch Mehdi and Stephan

[Eidolon]

why would i bring up a unique utility of my role pm if i were lying? i'm not a dumb enough scum to contest in such a way to a plan that could easily have possibly been dismantled had i waited some time.

Nah it's just part of my role. deal with it.

You would because you'll be caught tomorrow otherwise when your assigned player doesn't get his money lol

what?

you clearly know how ridiculous that statement was, hence the nervous laugh at the end. stop bullshitting.

I'd have no reason to bring unnessessary attention to myself BEFORE anyone even gave any thoughts about the plan, if i were really scum.

[greygnarl]

In future iterations of this game it would be nice if there was no transferring. This is kind of killing the fun of the setup IMO.

Ice

is dangerous because as he admitted he has lots of knowledge of the setup. He hasn't made himself super protown.

BTW dangerous isn't worse than scummy. It's on its own.

[SlumberPartyBois]

Ok revised based on current qualms:


PEOPLE I WANT TO TRANSFER THEIR MONEY TO OTHER PLAYERS:

• ELMO
  GREYICE
  GUILLE
  VOIDEDMAFIA
  PITTY
  EIDOLIN
  PHILAMMON
  SEANALD
  

PLAYERS NOT TRANSFERRING

OR

RECEIVING MONEY:

• BBMOLLA
  GREYGNARL
  TAZARO
  MEHDI
  

PLAYERS RECEIVING MONEY:

• Stefan
  Peregrine
  SlumberPartyBois
  Tammy
  Salamence
  Gentlemen Bastards

Can we agree on this?

Question, should greygnarl and tazaro transfer their money just in case they are scum in order to tie them up or should we have them go after items on the market?

I will coordinate the pairings when we have come upon an agreement

[guille2015]

Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

Uhhh why?

If he were scum/sk planning this, he would make a killing.