Open 461: True Love (GAME OVER)

[iamausername]

Hi, do you guys want to claim lovers?

Not yet. I think it's something we should do before the end of D1, but not immediately.

VOTE: Bitmap

[iamausername]

I can also promise all of you that Im not planning on claiming scum on some gambit, etc.

are you planning on claiming scum for any other reason? perhaps because you are scum, and overcome by guilt about the deceitful requirements of your role?

[iamausername]

What is this random voting nonsense. Stop that right now. If anything we should be voting as to whether or not we claim lovers.

false dichotomy

as Salamanca and I have ably demonstrated, it is perfectly possible to give both a random vote AND an opinion on the subject of claiming lovers.

UNVOTE: Bitmap
VOTE: Moneybags

kindly take your pointless fearmongering elsewhere, good sir

[iamausername]

What is this random voting nonsense. Stop that right now. If anything we should be voting as to whether or not we claim lovers. I'm thinking we should claim right away. Lets consider that half of the pairs are Town/Town, and the other half Scum/Town. How well do you know your lover? Because there's a 50% chance they're not even on your side. So lets just get straight to the point. Should we, or shouldn't we, announce who we're paired with?

Seriously, does nobody else find this post really scummy?

Why is he so concerned about people trusting their companion cube too easily? How would he know if anyone was doing that?

[iamausername]

OK, for currently undisclosed reasons, Moneybags is probably town.

UNVOTE: Moneybags
VOTE: Malakittens

Just gut, straight up. Don't have a better reason to vote anybody else at the moment. If Josh Lyman would hurry up and get his ass in the game it would help a lot.

[iamausername]

Find something I did scummy and call me out on it. Otherwise I will just come to the conclusion you are hopping around on players to see if you can't get others to follow.

Will you really? That seems like a pretty ridiculous conclusion to reach. How would I get anyone to follow me without providing any reason why they should?

I have been prodded.

Will read up and post tomorrow.

LIES. DO SOMETHING ALREADY, JEEZ.

That or his partner is scum, discuss.

oh look now i'm voting malakittens for concrete reasons.

He's really trying to have his cake and eat it by suggesting that Moneybags and his cube are BOTH looking scummy out of this. Those seem like pretty mutually exclusive opinions, no?

greygnarl is my cube

Well, that was inevitable. Please, nobody else do this.

I'm also amused at how there's other reasons your scum, but you continue to attack the one that's easiest to shoot down. Keep talking, this is fun to watch.

Uh, what are they, again? I feel like I'm missing something here. Why are you so sure that greygnarl is scum?

[iamausername]

I don't think he's scum yet

when will you think i'm scum?

[iamausername]

Pretty sure I know who both scum are, and I'm not one of them.

fuck you josh lyman, play the fucking game.

UNVOTE: Malakittens
VOTE: Josh Lyman

[iamausername]

Read the game now. Ambivalent about claiming cubes. Had Moneybags as a scumread based off a misunderstanding of the setup but I figured that out so now he's null, but I wouldn't miss him and GG is kinda scummy so I'm okay voting him. I'm leery of the multiple people calling IAUN town. He hasn't done anything scummy but I don't really see anything he's done to make others want to call him town. Mala is scummy too I guess.

vote: greygnarl

What did you misunderstand about the setup and why did it lead you to believe Moneybags was scummy?

Why are greygnarl and Malakittens scummy?

That is NOT all. You also confirmed what he said. And you're vote-hopping more than a toad.

Vote: greygnarl

This is absolutely ridiculous. It's blindingly obvious that greygnarl assumed it would be taken for granted that if he is Moneybags' cube, Moneybags would be his cube. That's just common sense. There is no way you could seriously think he was trying to intentionally mislead you as to whether or not he had confirmed Moneybags' claim when that information is obviously readily available in the thread. You're clearly just reaching for an excuse to hop onto the greygnarl wagon.

I did not like Josh's jump onto GG. If anything that can be a weak bus if GG flips scum.

Do you really think it looks like a bus? Especially a 'weak' bus? It was an L-1 vote; surely that fact alone would preclude it from being 'weak'.

[iamausername]

The others I'm sitting on because I actually want to hear why Lyman thinks GG is scum, because I guess I had a reading fail on post 123 and now that I understand it I agree it's a weak reason to be L-1 on the wagon.

i can understand this but man it's super frustrating how someone i don't find scummy is in danger of being lynched and it seems like nobody wants to explain why they're even voting him

[iamausername]

seriously, moneybags? seriously?

if you don't have time for the game, the correct solution is to replace out, not to throw your life away in service of an objectively terrible lynch.

are you really THAT convinced that greygnarl is scum that you're happy to align yourself with people like Josh Lyman and Bitmap who are straight up flaunting the fact that they are giving fuck all effort to this game?

WHY? the only reason i've seen from you is that greygnarl did not answer when you straight up asked if he was scum in your QT, and frankly i think scum would be MORE eager to declare their towniness when given an opportunity. you've claimed there are other reasons that greygnarl is ignoring, but i have no idea what they are, and i suspect greygnarl has no idea either, which makes it pretty fucking difficult to address them.

please stop being so eager to martyr yourself and try actually engaging with the other people in this game. iso Josh Lyman for me, tell me what you think. Is that a town player who you are happy to vote alongside. IS IT? CAN YOU HONESTLY TELL ME THAT IT IS?

I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE, Y'ALL

[iamausername]

greygnarl i know you're joking but seriously if you self-hammer i am literally going on a killing spree irl

[iamausername]

To save me the time of going through the thread again and looking myself.

I kind of just skimmed for the most part.

yeah these are the guys i trust to decide the lynch

IT'S EIGHT PAGES, NOT WAR AND FUCKING PEACE

[iamausername]

OH MY GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

[iamausername]

moneybags if you are unable to determine who i think is scum from this page alone then please replace out of this game and let somebody who actually has the mental capacity required to play the game into your slot

[iamausername]

I'd rather hold off on claiming until Josh Lyman's replacement has a chance to say something.

[iamausername]

so you agree that greygnarl is likely being targeted by scum in order to take out Moneybags, the most obvious townie of all time, ok

but then you think two of the people who are NOT voting for grey make a logical scum pairing? how does that work? and how is Om 'trying to use' grey, exactly?

[iamausername]

i would really really like to do a lover claim now you guys.

UNVOTE: Rainbowdash
VOTE: Malakittens

definitely my preference lynch at this time, fwiw.

[iamausername]

If your slot is town and IIUN is town it makes two of the remaining three slots contain scum. Out of them, I really dont see the pairing of grey+Bit/Mala happening, so I would probably go for the CFR lynch and say its with Bit/Mala because out of everything I said, calling a CFR-Mala pair is the only thing that he really has commented on in the QT. That alone was wierd enough to make me really want this lynch beacuse if you are in a T/T pairing I would self-vote over voting the GreyMoney lynch.

Same time your pair being scum is the only way I see GreyMoney as scum at all, and if THATS true its probably IIUA as scum and not you. Chances of that are low either way I think, reasonably I would say its UserNom+CFR or BitKitten+CFR, the UserNom+GreyMoney is just the only way I see GreyMoney being scum and its noteable enough to point out.

Yeah, that works for me, actually.

Us today.
If we're both town, lynch MalaBit + RainbowRiot.
If Om is scum, lynch greyMoney + RainbowRiot.

Om is no way scum with MalaBit, he's been trying hard in the QT to get me to pay more attention to Bitmap. and obviously greyMoney/Malabit is really unlikely with the way MalaBit both parked their votes on greygnarl.

I'm confident enough in these to take one for the team today as long as everybody promises to hold to this plan. CF Riot, if you're town, do not let Rainbowdash slip out of the noose on D3. And vice versa.

[iamausername]

I would like to request that nobody else hammers Om. I believe that it is my responsibility to euthanize my own companion cube, and I do not want to shirk this duty. Consider this my dying request.

Om, I fully intend to do a murder-suicide. Continued efforts to persuade against this course of action should be considered wasted effort. If you are town, your time would be much better served in trying to help the four remaining town players reach the correct conclusion on which of the other pairs is town/town.

If you are scum just go ahead and kill you're self, I guess.

I'mma go reread everything to make sure I haven't missed anything. Pretty sure GreyMoney should be the survivors if me and Om are both town and MalaBit is Om is scum, but I want to double check.

[iamausername]

cool. cool cool cool.