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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:29 pm

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How can you be so sure?

I'm happy with my vote at this point.
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:44 pm

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I don't argue with those who are too blind to see the truth.
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:59 pm

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Whose arguing. I asked you a question, yet you chose not to answer. Please explain why DGB is town to you?
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:02 pm

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Already did o blind one
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:21 pm

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No. I don't agree, I'm blind. You were against a PL on malp for being a miller, but you call for a PL LaL. Rob said JL wasn't on site so he couldn't have sent in the kill. I've played in games on site where kills have been sent in via QT. So how is this a positive clear. Also, AP also played in a game where thor sent in a kill early prior to a v/la. So why is DGB town to you? So if you are using this to clear players then how many other players profiles have you stalked during the night to clear players?
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:34 pm

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1) Quote it or it didn't happen.

2) I don't care if you agree or not. I work on probability.
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:42 pm

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In post 1798, Paid Pyro wrote:Actual rev you're such a *removes vulgarity*. Day one I wasn't here to vote. Zab NKed. The CKD was lynched prior to my thread Re-read, since I was way behind. Also, if im scummy why didn't you vote me? How about you soft push me some more.


Aw come on, the point of the game is to find scum, and one tactic I employ is to prod people. Soft push? Blatant prod, more like. I'm a removed vulgarity because I'm trying to put some pressure on you so you can add to your impressive post count and give us some reads? Really?

I didn't vote for you because it's still early in the day. AP is insisting you're town, I asked him to explain why and was waiting for his response before I decided if I should press for your lynch. If he can convince me I'm wrong, then I won't prod you any more and you can go back to doing nothing productive.
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:54 pm

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In post 1804, Paid Pyro wrote:No. I don't agree, I'm blind. You were against a PL on malp for being a miller, but you call for a PL LaL. Rob said JL wasn't on site so he couldn't have sent in the kill. I've played in games on site where kills have been sent in via QT. So how is this a positive clear. Also, AP also played in a game where thor sent in a kill early prior to a v/la.
So why is DGB town to you? So if you are using this to clear players then how many other players profiles have you stalked during the night to clear players?


In post 1805, ProHawk wrote:1) Quote it or it didn't happen.

In post 367, ProHawk wrote:I disagree with a Miller policy lynch.



In post 1396, ProHawk wrote:
In post 979, Josh Lyman wrote:Oh, there's been a hammer. Well, that gives me a couple more days to catch up. Will post when day opens up.


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Josh Lyman

Time to lynch the lurker.

Aside from that, rofl looks town to me. Still have more digging to do on Darthe.


happened. answer the questions.

More Prohawk votes please.
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:59 pm

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PP looking not-so-town
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:02 pm

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Riddle me this, riddle me that. Wheres the scum motivation in buddying the only person to have a town read on him (by pushing my target) and playing aggressively when the Darthe lynch is going swimmingly.
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:02 pm

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In post 1806, TheReverend wrote:
In post 1798, Paid Pyro wrote:Actual rev you're such a *removes vulgarity*. Day one I wasn't here to vote. Zab NKed. The CKD was lynched prior to my thread Re-read, since I was way behind. Also, if im scummy why didn't you vote me? How about you soft push me some more.


Aw come on, the point of the game is to find scum, and one tactic I employ is to prod people. Soft push? Blatant prod, more like. I'm a removed vulgarity because I'm trying to put some pressure on you so you can add to your impressive post count and give us some reads? Really?

I didn't vote for you because it's still early in the day. AP is insisting you're town, I asked him to explain why and was waiting for his response before I decided if I should press for your lynch. If he can convince me I'm wrong, then I won't prod you any more and you can go back to doing nothing productive.


Why don't you convince yourself? It's been rare over the past few weeks i've been home and online enough to really post. So have at it. You're just a lazy as I am but at least I'm not ashamed to admit it. You say I'm supper scummy yet no vote. this isn't a prod (bull) it's a soft push. You want to see if others will join in. Put you vote where you mouth is, otherwise move on.
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:11 pm

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In post 1810, Paid Pyro wrote:You're just a lazy as I am but at least I'm not ashamed to admit it.


I think maybe you should read my recent posts before you suggest I'm not willing to accept my own failings.

Why are you trying to push me into voting for you? What difference does it make if I wait for you and pidgeon to respond? I'm in no hurry, we got over a week haven't we?

You want to see if others will join in.


If you really think this, then I would suggest you're voting for the wrong person. Surely if I'm testing the town's willingness to lynch you, that's scum motivated right? Why would you say this when you're voting for prohawk?

I don't understand why AP has such a town read on you, and I don't understand why people have a scum read on prohawk.
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:15 pm

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@rev. Yep the soft push doesn't sit right with me. I don't care for you// At this point I'm not voting you because it would be out of pure emotion. No I'm not going to do that. My read of day one and looking back at my opening post has Darth and prohawk scum. My gut just says prohawk at this point.
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:30 pm

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PP - Your arguments have so many holes I don't even know where to start.

You claim I think DGB is scum. - False
You claim I called for a PL on LaL (Lynch all Liars) - False

You quote me saying I want to lynch a lurker and try to compare it to me not wanting to policy lynch a miller :shifty:
Not even comparable.

Now you can kindly get off of your angry rampage horse and help us lynch actual scum. Thanks.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:32 pm

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Pyro - it wouldn't be an emotional vote, it would be one based on your read that I'm reaction baiting the town and not you.

You don't seem to be making sense. Either you have doubts about me that you refuse to acknowledge, or you're scum trying to implicate as many town as possible.

I'm not ready to vote for you yet because I still need to do a rofl iso and try to figure out why he was picked off instead of rob or pidgeon. It's quite a task that requires motivation. Like I say, we've got plenty of time. I don't see why you're pressing for votes this early. I've said who I think are town and who I think might be scum, it's not like I'm trying to protect my hand.

My gut says it's not prohawk. We're at odds.
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:33 pm

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AP, I see scum motivation right about...

In post 1798, Paid Pyro wrote:2. Can't have the rev say saying I'm not on a scum wagon anymore


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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:39 pm

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In post 1813, ProHawk wrote:PP - Your arguments have so many holes I don't even know where to start.

You claim I think DGB is scum. - False
You claim I called for a PL on LaL (Lynch all Liars) - False

You quote me saying I want to lynch a lurker and try to compare it to me not wanting to policy lynch a miller :shifty:
Not even comparable.

Now you can kindly get off of your angry rampage horse and help us lynch actual scum. Thanks.



LaL can be either lynch all lair or lurkers. You absolutely called for a PL on the JL because he wasn't playing. If it wasn't a PL then fine what was it? Also please answer my other questions which you still have failed to do. The more you avoid answering the questions (which are very simple) the more I feel your scum.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:42 pm

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You're not off your angry rampage horse. I have answered all of your questions. If you feel you must lynch me then make it so.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:45 pm

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In post 1817, ProHawk wrote:You're not off your angry rampage horse. I have answered all of your questions. If you feel you must lynch me then make it so.


So why is DGB town to you (not Rob13)?

So if you are using this to clear players then how many other players profiles have you stalked during the night to clear players?

If it wasn't a PL then fine what was it?

Very simple questions. Quote or it didn't happen.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:47 pm

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Why do I feel like there is an echo of me in here?
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:50 pm

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Failed to answer the questions again, and you failed to quote where you have. You asked I delivered, but alas you are must feel you do not have to answer my questions. An air of superiority then, I'll chalk it up to your scumminess.

Confirm vote: Prohawk
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:39 am

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PP, stop being silly.

He's quoted in the past why he thought DGB is town. He never said I wasn't town, so that's just a plain ol' misrep.

There's a difference between Lyman being entirely offline for over a week prior to the kill and other players being offline for a day or two. He didn't even log-in to read the thread and figure out who to kill and drmy was obviously killed for being doc. Ergo, Lyman did not make the kill unless he made a conscious decision to be completely inactive and be replaced while reading the thread while not signed in and making kill by QT in order to help a scum team win that he would have replaced out of. That's so, so, so unlikely. Also, your question here was loaded and makes little sense. I wouldn't have answered it in Prohawk's position either (although he did in the past because he's just that nice).

It was a policy lynch, just not of lynch all liars like you had claimed earlier. LAL means Lynch all Liars not Lynch all Lurkers. See the wiki entry for LAL here: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=LAL

PP, your vote is bad, your posts are bad. This is not a good day for you. Convince me you aren't scum.
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:33 am

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I consider both DGB and Malp town tbh. Rob and AP as well. Not quite as sure of Rev. The other two I I'm less certain of.
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:10 am

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Darthe
(2)
- Rob13, ProHawk, DrippingGoofball
ProHawk
(1) - Paid Pyro

Not voting
(6) - malpascp, Darthe, AngryPidgeon, TheReverend


With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2012-11-29 11:22:25)
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:16 am

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@Rob: LaL is used interchangeably a lot of the time.

Anyways, PH begging me to vote him is a good scum tactic at this point because:
1. Its usually something town does (and PH knows I hold that opinion I believe because of drmyshotgun doing it to me D1)
2. It discredits my vote if I throw it down all OMGUSy without making a case.

Rob is suffering from a huge case of confirmation bias about PH's DGB read.

PP = town is mostly a gutread on my end. But his play looks genuine. I don't see any signs of him trying to actively look town or appease anyone. Hes playing aggressive suddenly, which would be a really silly scum tactic.
Kind of ocming around to a DGB townread. I guess my order would be
PH
Darthe
Malp
....

After that I got nothing.

I'll make a case this weekend or something.

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