NY 159: RUST game over

[malpascp]

Hi there. Hungover.
Claim: miller.
will read later today, and I guess RVS is already over.

[malpascp]

In my point of view, both claims are true. It's too much of a coincidence for BC to fakeclaim before I did. So if I somehow flip, then BC will be confirmed town miller. Voting for him is stupid, unless you think we are both fakeclaiming. Will reread and make reads later.

[malpascp]

BITCHES

If I flip town, then it means that BC claimed miller when another one existed, and I think it would be too much of a coincidence for scum to claim exactly that when another miller existed. Not that hard to understand. In my point of view, BC is confirmed town.

[malpascp]

That's not the point. If BC flips town, that doesn't confirm me as town. But the opposite is true.

Doc is a much more common role than a miller. I've never played a game so far with a miller, but nearly all of them had a doc. Don't try to fuck me up. I can't simplify it even more guys, get it or do whatever pleases you.

[malpascp]

There is still a point that he may have fakeclaimed miller without knowing there was an actual miller in the game and also you hadn't read the thread, meaning you fakeclaiming it there would also have no knowledge another miller existed.
Neither of you are cleared at the present time and neither of you will be cleared when/if the other flips.

This would be true if I as scum was stupid enough to fakeclaim miller without reading the thread. I'll reread so we can disscuss stuff that really matters.

[malpascp]

Tell me what part doesn't make sense.

[malpascp]

So you think I would fakeclaim miller when someone already had, and then WIFOM my way around it, but trying to clear the guy that claimed miller (btw he is fucking cleared). Seems legit.

[malpascp]

Finally someone got it. Thanks Taz.

This needs like way more votes

Been kinda distracted, so I don't get it.

[malpascp]

Can we like lynch fucking "Miller" right now?

Why not lynching scum?

[malpascp]

Sorry guys, will read all of this and ISO some people.

[malpascp]

I have to reread all this shit now. I hope it's worth it.

[malpascp]

I played with Taz before and he didn't play nothing like this. Almost everything he says is just tasteless and useless.
rofl is clearly town.
Gonna ISO DemonCore and some other people.

[malpascp]

That game was Mini 1196. Tazaro was town in it and I was scum.

[malpascp]

Yeah man, thanks to him, this is going to be my first scum loss... I mean, hell no, I'm town. -.-

[malpascp]

As far as I can see, my death would make BC conf-town for claiming miller before I did. Anyway, killing one town to confirm another one is rather dumb. My scumhunting will come, but spaming the thread doesn't help it for anyone.

[malpascp]

Third party? Is zabriel DC's partner? We have a vig AND mafia kill was blocked/protected? We have to reach some agreement on how this NK happened so we can analyze Day 1.

P-Edit: If a vig shot Zab, then our doc/RB got it right on N1? Is any of these roles "claimable" right now?

[malpascp]

Haha. Nice try.

Yeah, obviously when a single scum dies at night, we should consider it a gift from the gods and just lynch someone else. Based on what?

What you are saying is that finding out if the surviving scum among us is partner with zab, DC or both is irrelevant. Hum, I guess that's not quite accurate.

Besides, you totally dodge the fact that fake-claims can be made, and use that to say I'm "rolefishing". Just dafaq.

[malpascp]

Fuuuuuuck. Too many claims. We need to hear the full thing from Tazaro. As far as I can see, all this JoaT claims are way too convenient, scum could easily do this gambit. Also, finding who killed zabriel is top priority. We have 2 claimed vig-shots, I guess there are no more town NK roles. It would be nice if Taz just cut the crap and told us everything. And that applies to everyone. Screw mafia having information, they are going to have it anyway, and if we get the SK (pretty sure there is one by now), then I doubt we won't win this game.
Will have limited access until Wednesday.

[malpascp]

Well that was pretty fucked up Taz. First thing I thought was : scumteam Taz and Darthe. After this shit, none of you will ever be lynched. Like ever ever. I guess it would be really bold to do a gambit like this, but hey this game is turning really screwed up too. For now I don't have a single reason to vote either Taz or Darthe. BC is also out of the equation as far as I'm concerned, I still think my logic makes sense.

P-EDIT: hm that makes sense too. Darthe should have thought immediatly that Taz was conf-scum to him, why not voting? This enforces my gambit theory. Hooray.

Guys, can someone make some kind of list of the claims that have been made or something? I think it would be helpful, and also I don't even remember half of them anymore, brain too full of Chemistry.

[malpascp]

Ok then, Taz is actually definitively confirmed town? 100%? No godfathers and other shit? Even considering that this game has fucking millers? hum sounds about right

[malpascp]

DC lynch BC lynch, whatever. I'm stoned.

me too!

Guilty over here lulz.

Finally this shitty day is over, I just want to see night actions flying around and people droping dead, bam-bam. And I'm aware that I'm pretty much screwed if BC is scum, but he isn't. Kill scum tonight you bastards. For my mental sanity.

[malpascp]

In my point of view, BC claimed my exact role before I did. There are lots of PRs. This makes me believe that scum claiming miller before knowing there was another miller in the game, and not even waiting to see if anyone claimed it in first posts, plus the coincidence of already having a miller in the game, is just stupidly unlikely.

[malpascp]

Yep. Scum would wait before they claimed miller. Miller is a plausible role in this game (because I'm one). There are lots of PRs that make millers more likely. These are the reasons that make me believe BC is town. Plus his posts are not that scummy, if he didn't claim miller he wouldn't be the lynch today.

[malpascp]

You are policy lynching miller. No discussion.

[malpascp]

I'm a Town Miller. Why didn't anyone, in almost 100 posts, did this?

@Mod: If a Miller is investigated by a Gunsmith, what result would the gunsmith receive?

rofl is scum.

Ninja'd by like 10 posts. Stop multi-posting.

P-Edit: Shooty is role-fishing lulz. Kill these two.

P-Edit again: Pere found something cool

And rofl hugging Shooty lulz, I usually see scum distancing but seems like today is Opposite's Day.

Another P-Edit (srsly guys stop posting so much): We don't need more claims for today, unless it's IMPORTANT investigation results/ successfull roleblocks, anything clearing people or confirming scum. Anything else waits until this is as confusing as any other game.

P-Edit: I'm not lurking, I logged like 10 minutes ago, read 100 posts (plus some extra ones) and tried to post like 20 times. Don't make up shit, town doesn't lie.

P-Edit one last time: BP is freakin passive. Like duh.

[malpascp]

I don't care. I'm a miller. Even without Rob's result, I'd be quite likely lynched today. I'm not scum, not a vig, I don't have a gun. I'm a fucking miller and I wish I could be proud of it.

You all better un-bookmark this topic when this game is over, because post-game thoughts by the miller guy over here... are not going to be nice.

Go and lynch scumbags. I fucking dare you.

Now that my caffeine (plus something else) high is calming down, I'm going to sleep. Hoping not to wake up dead.

P-Edit: I shouldn't care anymore, but only fake-claiming scum could be enjoying this. Or maybe healthy people that like to play Mafia. Dunno, find it out by yourselves.

[malpascp]

Once again, town doesn't lie. Not placing a vote until tomorrow, too lazy to make tags.

P-Edit: scumteam rofl, AP and Shooty. Thank me later.

No AP, you can't lynch your buddy. I mean, you should, but bla bla bla WIFOM bla bla bla I have a gun and so on.

[malpascp]

Rob. Don't do that shit again.

Re-reading and placing a vote tomorrow, this thread seems how my facebook account would look if I had one.

P-Edit: rofl is right about me scum=claiming miller today. Even though he reached that conclusion way too fast. Meh.

[malpascp]

If you were fucking brilliant, I wouldn't think you are scum. But I do.

Pere logic is Ok, just suicidal town. Nothing important.

AP: I believe rofl didn't use "gambit" in that kind of way. Pretty sure.

CKD: Agreeded. Every single one of them. And rofl. Shooty. Anyone else who has a behaviour that is awkward even in Newbie games. Yep lets just kill everyone.

[malpascp]

The person who said he was fucking brilliant aka rofl.

P-Edit: Results?

[malpascp]

AP. You are pretty much screwed. Don't do that gambit. Just die. Please.

P-Edit: @rofl: didn't read lol
stuff AP quoted from rofl is correct IMO, Rob is town.

Yes this is a Pre-Edit again: AP is scum. I'm placing my vote now. Rob is town, rofl could be hard bussing but dunno.

Vote: AngryPidgeon

[malpascp]

He just said the same thing you did.

Already told you what I think about this.

[malpascp]

Who the hell is conf-town and why do you think my first sentence was directed to town-AP?

[malpascp]

I'm more freakin conf-town than that. With this many town PRs and prob scum PRs, and fake-claims and shit, that doesn't make you conf-town at all. You are pushing too much on the fact that I MUST assume you are a SK.

Will analyze "mighty wall" and etc. Later. I got quick-lynched in another game and I'm tired already. Don't ask me stuff.

P-Edit: AP loading that image almost made my laptop crash. Please don't make my laptop crash.

[malpascp]

Hey. AP. Breaking news. You are not conf-town. Stop saying so. It's a lie and liars tend to be scum.

[malpascp]

Hmm. I think re-ISOing based on recent flips is a good choice.

I'm really sleepy, so if anyone is conf-town right now just tell me because I'm not seeing anything like that.

[malpascp]

@Rob - Your logic on Lyman scum is spot on so long as there are only 4 scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: malp

I also concur with your malp reasoning

. I don't feel like Darthe is scum.

Rob just said that I am not cleared town or scum, and that I wasn't the most likely to be scum. You are buddying.

Also Darthe's quotes made me think Cherry is scumish. Any thoughts on this?

[malpascp]

Yep I read Darthe's quotes, and thanks to that I have nearly no time for any other game.

Rob says Darthe is a better lynch. If you are sheeping, sheep for real.

Ignoring AP.

[malpascp]

Too sleepy to respond. Sorry to leave you like this.

[malpascp]

Guys, just lynch me. I'm not adding anything to the game and like you said multiple times, we can't afford to have a miller in LyLo. Hopefully we don't even get to LyLo, but just do it. I'm drawing attention from everything else and it's horrible. Also I think I already only claimed miller on this site that got to Day 4, so I'm happy already. 3 dead scum. Awesome. Good game.

Obviouslly I won't self-vote.

[malpascp]

What, no lynch yet? You guys must really love me.

[malpascp]

Hi there.
Your opinion on lynching claimed miller?

btw I think someone made a list of all claims some pages ago, if you are interested.

[malpascp]

I am a miller. Important note: I claimed after BC claimed miller, and he fliped miller.

[malpascp]

So if I flip miller that means some PR is claiming VT????

[malpascp]

So if I flip miller that means some PR is claiming VT????

Just to clarify, everyone seems to agree that if all claims are true then this setup is very scum-sided. We know all scum roles that fliped must be real (duuh), so that means town must be more powerfull than it seems. Thoughts on this?

[malpascp]

DGB's reasoning on Cheery-scum is the only thing that makes sense in this entire game.

Also I'm V/LA, even though it doesn't matter, because I think all possible reasons to want me lynched were already listed

ad infinitum

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Vote: Cheery Dog

[malpascp]

I never thought someone could be so insanely pro-town as DGB. Just thank you.

[malpascp]

I don't want to be a bitch by asking this every day, but is anyone conf-town by now? Or something close to it?

[malpascp]

How exactlly? By your words if you don't mind.

[malpascp]

I am fucking here and not willing to hammer.

Also I will be V/LA until Saturday

Prob posting once a day or less.

[malpascp]

No. Fucking. Way. Reverend you are not acting as town at all, it seems like you are trying to set mislynches based on your death already. Really dumb mislynches.

[malpascp]

Vote: TheReverend

You had your chance.

[malpascp]

Haha I fucking knew it. BOW DOWN TO BEERCULES

[malpascp]

Well you did do a good job, but shit was already done.

Also I have to admit that since Rob's claim I was always afraid he was the last scum. I guess I have an issue when it comes to conf-town.

Anyway, good game all.

[malpascp]

Way to make it to the end as a miller malp!

Yeah, I almost forgot that detail. It must be some sort of record, claimed miller hammering last scum.


Did someone honestlly thought DGB was scum?