NY 160B - Welcome to Castle Zar - TIME FOR FIREWORKS!

[Nobody Special]

Happy Birthday, Empire! Here, have a present:

Vote: Empire

P-Edit: Angel, most games on this site start out with RVS (Random Voting Stage). Nothing to fear.

[Nobody Special]

ArcAngel's reactions now won't be as genuine if pressure built as NS told her there was nothing to fear.

I posit that this attitude is awful; you're trying to take advantage of a new person to the site who isn't aware of, or used to, our site meta.

unvote

Vote: Konowa

For shame.

[Nobody Special]

Also, Konowa is Town, NS.

I don't think so at this point, but we'll see.

[Nobody Special]

Mehdi, I figured that an unexplained initial vote would have more of an impact.

You'll be happy to know that a large number of players on this site view such an action as inherently scummy.

However, I still think Konowa is scummier than you are.

[Nobody Special]

Nah, part of it is general agreement with Konowa's sentiment that NS trying to dull the edge off the AA9 wagon was anti-town. What really got me, though, was his vote on Konowa in #23 which is awkward and the reasoning he provides for it feels like reaching. Initially, I thought it was a joke due to its exaggerated tone but #29 implies that his vote was serious.

P-Edit: Only once. He was my scum partner in Micro 70 and he had a similar-ish awkward entrance.

I don't have much to comment on; you think I'm reaching yet I'm completely serious. You view my vote as awkward. Okay, what am I supposed to do with that, give you a hug and tell you it'll be all better?

[Nobody Special]

NS do you still like your kon vote?

Yes, thanks.

[Nobody Special]

None taken.

[Nobody Special]

I agree that Tammy is probably town.

[Nobody Special]

I am here, reading at top of page 18. Please don't end the day until I post; I need less than half an hour.

[Nobody Special]

town


vi -- pretty sure



tammy?

roflcopter -- strong

scum


arcangel -- but maybe just dense newb


empire -- mainly for calling me and Vi scum



mehdi/johhog is very prob town-on-town (but looking @ mehdi individually he is so scum his scum smells of scum)



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Hi, please accept my apologies: I got a metric assload of work dumped on me in the last two days, and the sudden rain we had caused other time-mangling cimplications. Back now, all is under control.

unvote

Tammy: No, and my list of reads is (mostly) in this post.



See, my problem with the johhog/Mehdi interaction is that the argument as a whole looks town-on-town, but looking at Mehdi

in toto

without regard to the Johhog thing, Mehdi looks scummier than scum on a scum-filled pond with pondscum.



This is why Mehdi's scum and needs rope.

Oh, look, here's more reason to grab the rope. Only one scumread? Really?

Really??

Breaking news: [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 552865this[/url] post from Empire just makes my teeth itch. Something's not right. Edit: Mostly, it was the "two days" thing -- I see that we have 2.5 days, so meh. But still. Feels overly confident.


And now in post 431 we have Arthur agreeing with my (old) read of scumKonowa. I'd honestly have to go back to page 1 or 2 to see why I thought that.


Vi, 338:
This is probably the first time I've ever found Tammy boring.

See what Vi's read on Tammy is.



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Posting all this from my unedited notepad file, because I don't know if day is really over and I want this posted before threadlock.

[Nobody Special]

@Nobody Special

– is Empire still a scum read for you?

Yes; see above for more detail.

[Nobody Special]

Vi's whole attitude this game is his townself. It just is.

[Nobody Special]

The whole thing on AA with the vigshot was just Vi torturing a newb. I swear, how everyone took it seriously is beyond me.

[Nobody Special]

No.

However, your entire game has been scummy, whereas his has not. The number of scumreads is just one grain of sand in the entire Sahara. Your desert is scummy, his is pristine.

[Nobody Special]

You aren't listening (reading) what I'm saying. Also, I pointed out several scummy things you did in my recent long catch-up post.

Stop being dense.

If you're still alive after a votecount, I'm quite ready and willing to hammer.

[Nobody Special]

Sorry for not being here earlier.

Vote: Mehdi

[Nobody Special]

<3

[Nobody Special]

Baby, what's the difference between avoiding and ignoring?

[Nobody Special]

nobody special

- what is your read on moi?

I have never been able to adequately read MoI -- partly because he intimidates me, with his knack for reading my alignment so very well (he's hardly ever wrong about me), and partly because I just can't.


So, null. Or something.

[Nobody Special]

I'm willing to vote either Zach or Nacho. I think DGB was scum and replaced out after seeing what kind of position her slot was in. (Maybe.)

I know someone (Tammy?) asked me about Baby Spice but I can't read that right now; I might get an opinion before deadline.

[Nobody Special]

Regardless of Baby's posting history, her post 596 is enough to get me to lynch her.

Vote: Baby Spice

[Nobody Special]

Why vote now, not a couple of pages ago when I said it?

I honestly wasn't paying attention to you. I only noticed it when it was commented upon.

ns, aside from the fact that she expresses suspicion of you, why is baby's post 596 enough to "get [you] to lynch her"?

It's absurd, outlandish, and unreasonable setup speculation. Town don't generally engage in such bullshit.

[Nobody Special]

Oh, like you've never had a lot of reads and couldn't decide which to lynch.

[Nobody Special]

They're, ummm, votes.

What do you think they are?

[Nobody Special]

Yes, let's do this.

Vote: Nacho

[Nobody Special]

Wait, shos isn't in this game? O_o

I am going to (for the moment) sheep Tammy's townread on Empire, mainly as I have no direct experience. HOWEVER, I initially had him as a scumread, so that may change on further reading/activity.

Based on my earlier speculation of Johhog v. Mehdi, I'll go ahead and say Johhog is town (for now).

I'll just leave this here. Note to self: Who thought Vi was scum?


Empire: Care to comment on this and this?


In re: the struck-out section above, I have to say I think Empire is scum with Baby.

Withholding my vote for the moment, as it's very early in the day, and I'd like to hear from Empire.

[Nobody Special]

DeasVail... thoughts on Empire?

[Nobody Special]

Bleh. Prod received. I've been reading along, I thought I had posted but I guess not.

Empire is less scummy to me now, for his response to me.

I need to start over (again, again) and look at Zach and more. But that won't be until tonight.

[Nobody Special]

And I got busy.

Have re-read a bit, though, and ready to lynch Zach.

Vote: Zach

[Nobody Special]

Nobody hammer please!

I can't hammer, I'm already on the wagon.

[Nobody Special]

Okay again I know that peopl have been using Post 545 as an innocent crumb on me but it could just as likely be a guilty on moi/zach. Yes, I know but it does make me wonder.

Also, there is something else that makes me worry. Rofl was a gunsmith..not a cop. A gunsmith can usually investigate mafia but not an SK right? I know someone yelled at someone else for bringing it up, but it's been on my mind since day started.

A gunsmith can investigate anyone. However, SKs usually (traditionally) kill with knives, so they don't have guns.

[Nobody Special]

VT.

Tammy go!

[Nobody Special]

I'm fine with hammering DV, but I'm concerned that Tammy keeps promising to give reads on me and doesn't ever deliver.

DV's at L-1, right? Check my math.

[Nobody Special]

Vote: Tammy

Die, scum.

[Nobody Special]

You don't mind if we quicklynch me because that'd give you another night to kill and another day to try to appear town?

You've got balls, mister. Huge. Brass.

unvote

Vote: DeasVail

[Nobody Special]

I'm definitely town. If you want to lynch me today, I'm fine with that, but I'd rather lynch DV as he has a chance of being scum, while I don't. (I acknowledge that I'm the only one that that sentence is true for.)

[Nobody Special]

Hey, Tammy?

You can hammer now.

[Nobody Special]

If, by some miracle, DV is town, then Tammy is totally scum.

[Nobody Special]

Oh, but I do.

[Nobody Special]

I guess it's partly (subconsciously) OMGUS. I know I'm town, and your case just seems wholly fabricated. It's just absurd and ludicrous (to me). Reverse tunneling, I guess.

Anyway, based on the way your case sounds, I think you are indeed scum if DV isn't.

[Nobody Special]

Flail moar, scum.

[Nobody Special]

Nominate DeasVail for

DeasFlail

[Nobody Special]

And I really don't get what the point is in delaying his lynch since IF (for some abnormal reason) he flips town, we can lynch NS tomorrow and still win the game.

Except no. IF DeasVail flips town (and we all know he won't), then lynching me won't win for us as I'm also town. If there is a tomorrow, we need to lynch Tammy.

[Nobody Special]

Her case on me (not to mention her abrasive, snarky attitude) is not town!Tammy. I'll have to dig up the game, give me a few minutes.

[Nobody Special]

My TammyMeta: we were both town, alive in endgame in a 3p endgame thing. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=21344

She's scum here. I feel like I'm tunneling. DV is starting to feel town now. OMG I hate this game sometimes.

[Nobody Special]

Question: If I volunteer to be lynched today, would you guys look at Tammy, or would it automatically be DV?

[Nobody Special]

Hold on a sec. Are we going on the assumption that there's only one scum left?

[Nobody Special]

Hush, you.

[Nobody Special]

I just

damn I hate this game.

If DV is town and ...... Empire is town. And Dayne is town....

Hmmm. I should look at SnowStorm. Again.

[Nobody Special]

Hey, Tammy -- THAT'S A SCUMSLIP. It just walked up and PUNCHED YOU IN THE GUT.

Did you feel it? Didja? DIDJA??

[Nobody Special]

.....Was NS thinking Tammy was scum genuine or trolling?

I was genuinely starting to waffle on DV, and if he was town, Tammy was my only other scumread. And yes, I was apparently mistaken.