NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[Vifam]

VOTE: BitMap

I heard you SUCK at mafia

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Rob, sign your posts so I can piss on you when you're acting stupid

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Ok I will

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I'll be right there to tell you when page five hits, I'll be at the top of the page. This is a promise

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I'm the best and the brightest

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How long has Rob been on mafiascum.net anyway? I could have sworn he just showed up

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He knows a lot of people if he just started playing here recently

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The first post is just some introduction and the second post is just him having fun

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I feel like Boner is on another level of scumhunting

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I didn't really mean that as a compliment

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Om has not posted yet what are you talking about

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I don't see how anyone could have legitimate reads, I think Boner Police's hurry out of RVS seems kind of town though

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This game is gonna kickass

[Vifam]

FOS BonerPolice

I expected better from you

You know I'm a lighthearted guy.

VOTE: Herobrine

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It was obviously a joke.

Okay MattP back on Herobrine


UNVOTE:

VOTE: Hero

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BonerPolice is probably town. Matt gets really insecure when he gets a wrong read on someone elsewhere.

That's a really silly thing to be insecure about

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Why do you think Hero is town

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I have no idea what you just posted

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Oh so because he's playing sloppy he can't be scum

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That's dumb what the hell

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If he's scum he'd obviously jump on your wagon when you claim to have caught Bitmap in a slip because that's easy wagon fodder and it gets eyes off him for a few pages

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You really are on another plane when it comes to this stuff

[Vifam]

You really are on another plane when it comes to this stuff

U should give a reason for why Hero is a good lynch instead of wasting time trying to discredit me

Just some advice 4 u

I'm not discrediting you. Hero is a good wagon because he voted BitMap based on something that was obviously a joke, it's sloppy because he think he saw a contradiction by a player and went "oh gee I guess I can hop on dis". Scum do that all the time when attention shifts from them to some other guy

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Wait what do you guys mean by ashamed of reads

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My name is MattP and I feel a heavy weight on my shoulders when I read someone wrong on a forum mafia game - Matt P

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It's page five by the way

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Hey Mozanis how do you feel about Hero

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Okay lets get Hero now

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His opening post felt a little over the top but not "Oh my god he's scum" bad.

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I guess he's an okay wagon mine is just better

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Must be easy

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To post cases where the main reasoning is just calling everything shit

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Although I do agree with your thing about his opening post, I don't think his snarkiness is a scumtell

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yw

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Yeah Whatever

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Also a potential softclaim

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I have no friends, family, or even a pet. Mafia is all I have keeping me alive, it's a sad story

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Okay I forgot everything I just read.
MattP tell me who to vote.

This is a bad post

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You def. mentioned him but I don't recall you ever calling him scummy it was something about comparing metas

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Oh my god

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Om of the Nom do you always play mafia like a teenage girl

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Hey, Rev vote Hero

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Hey to all you people voting with MattP can you atleast TRY and look at Hero

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No but he's scum and you're probably not gonna get anywhere with that Om wagon

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I got me, Bit, Rev, and Bonerpolice all as town.

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Also anyone who is voting via PM is scum stop doing it

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AjTheEpic and Borkj

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Oh my bad

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The mod confirmed that it's not happening

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I don't remember who brought it up but someone said they were votes in PM's and I believed them <_<

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VoteCount #1.02

Bitmap -

4

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TheReverend, PeregrineV, Boner Police, Herobrine
UberNinja -

1

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borkjerfkin
Herobrine -

2

[L-9]

Bitmap, Vifam
pirate mollie -

1

[L-10]

Josh Lyman
Majiffy -

1

[L-10]

JacobSavage
Lord Mhork -

1

[L-10]

pirate mollie

With 21 alive it takes 11 to Lynch.

Not Voting:

theunderachivers, Majiffy, Lord Mhork, Om of the Nom, zabriel, I Am Innocent, Aj the Epic, mozamis, penguin_alien, UberNinja, chkflip

Deadline / Bankable Time:

(expired on 2013-02-21 17:00:00)

EDIT: I'm badass with my pagetop.

VOTE: jacob savage

have you even posted yet if so I can't remember

It turns out vote by PMing the Mod fyi.

nvm I found it

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His reads are ok I guess

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I'm not stupid

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I don't think I've done a single dumb thing in this game and I'm pretty insulted

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What was it

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Whatever just don't call me dumb or stupid and we will be cool

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Also, tell MattP that Hero is scum

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oh my bad

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The case on Alien sucks

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OmOfTheNom is literally avoiding playing the game

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Om why do you think Hero is town

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VOTE: Om

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Way to admit to it

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He has a daycop on you just go to sleep, close your eyes

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PEDIT: gut broski. I could probably get a real reason for the townread but I didn't sleep at all so probably not going to happen anytime soon.

So Hero is in cahoots with Om of the Nom, it's confirmed

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Well he's basically admitted to it

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This is what happens when you mix up twitter with mafiascum.net

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#Youdunfuckedup

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R.I.P OMOFTHENOM

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I actually thought he'd crack under the pressure and just claim scum but lol

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If he's town he would have given up, that's his MO

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I'm just surprised you argued back, I really expected you to just quit at that point no matter what alignment you were.

Either way stop acting retarded

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What is the case on Mozanis

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I like Moz's last post, I think it was pretty town

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Honestly the Moz wagon is pretty lazy but since it's built by MattP everyone is just gonna roll with it, which is kind of dumb

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Like, anyone on Moz's wagon really isn't making an effort aside from Boner Police and it's retarded

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: Hero

Okai lets do it

[Vifam]

You just don't get it Lord, you'll never understand

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You're not that useful but I guess the fact that you're starting to build cases are nice, whatever

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Cry more Herobrine is scum

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I give him points for not just giving up like I expected him to

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I thought Chkflip was one of your townreads MattP

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Okay I'd like to hear the Mhork case

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I didn't really care if he thought I was scum to be honest

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@Vifam, what about moz's 399 did you specifically like?

It seemed like genuine town frustration, especially the part about looking at Majjify's attitude problem, I see statements like that coming more from town than scum.

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UNVOTE:

I like Hero's approach to PM, I'm gonna actually read what is being said about him now

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Prove it

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What are you talking about

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Were you the SK in that game?

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I think the Mastin/N hydra is scum

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I want to expand on that but I'm not really willing right now, maybe later

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okay you guys really need to stop doing that

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He's kind of right though

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Yeah I'm not much of a case guy either, I can't stand games where it's just case case case argument argument argument, I get bored of those and I check out in an instant

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This is lame lets get the Mastin/Nero hydra

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VOTE: Archive

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Whyyyyyy

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What the hell he hasn't even posted out of RVS

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'cause he's your buddy.

Okay.

Attempting to lynch a non entity in this game really isn't gonna help

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Okay this whole "I'm voting random people to test reactions" isn't town and it doesn't make you look town.

Can we lynch Archives now

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Who said I'm doing that? I did vote CHK for a reason but I was and didn't want to admit it so I said that I'm "testing reactions" but yea...I'm not doing that.

-N

Then explain the Josh Lyman vote, also why did you vote CHKflip vote?

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Or why did you vote Chkflip, whatever

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I'm voting you because I don't like how you claimed to be "testing the waters" earlier, and at this point I'm pretty sure you are making stuff up because there is no reason for you to pretend your chkflip vote was just a test, you simply could have said "Mastin thinks he's scum" or something to that regard. Also I think your questioning to boner is dumb & fake

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aaaaaah

So why did you vote Josh

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Hero says PM meta makes him scum, PM disagrees, idrc but it makes me think twice about Hero being scum.

I don't know why IAI is voting Mollie because the post where he voted him I just glazed over it, the only thing I noticed was the fact that he asked me a question

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Why did you ask me that

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The recent interaction between Vifam and Archive has got me feeling a lot more positive about Vifam than I was, and not so jazzed about Archive.

We should also consider ending this day soon as we were penalized 10 days and day 1 is essentially random anyhow. The days will be more useful to us later. If we can have somebody lynched before February I think that would be good.

Sidenote: I just put in two and a half shifts with the Trevor Project, plus an hour of overtime, so I've been listening to depressed and suicidal kids for 6 hours. I am going to get food, and probably smoke a big fat bowl of marijuana. Possibly in reversed order. Stay frosty kids. Will be back when I've managed to unwind.

Okay but why do you think I am scum

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I'm running for Mayer

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Oh my town reads are basically all the really active people. Herobrine, MattP, Bitmap, Majiffy, Mollie. Prob Vifam although quite often he seems to just agree with whatever MattP has said. Still, I've sheeped myself, so it's not a scum read, just something I'm looking at.
Everyone else null or pos scum.

TBH I actually find a lot of what MattP says illogical but it's a lot easier to just nod your head in agreement, ya know? Plus he's town so it's like whatever

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Fair enough. So why did you vote for the underachievers?

I'm voting you because I don't like how you claimed to be "testing the waters" earlier, and at this point I'm pretty sure you are making stuff up because there is no reason for you to pretend your chkflip vote was just a test, you simply could have said "Mastin thinks he's scum" or something to that regard. Also I think your questioning to boner is dumb & fake

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You have a stream of conscious on everyone on that list except for me

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Mostly because I'm writing you off as a fluff poster right now, I'll do an ISO of you once I finish reading the whole game.

I've probably fluff posted a lot less in this game compared to others

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Alright I'll get behind this

VOTE: Mhork

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I don't see Rev being that jumpy like everyone else is saying

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He's a little off the wall but I don't feel like it's frantic, if he was scum I think there would be a sense of panic around him but I'm not seeing it.

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Alright Nero Cain why do you have a scumread on me

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What is the point of getting a wagon to L-2 and then getting off of it everything you do mimics a 2nd grader

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Told

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UberNinja is kind of a tool

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I think those walls are kind of town though, just needlessly aggressive.

I don't like the fact that Om voted UberNinja

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I don't keep up with that shit

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Yeah what Majiffy said

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Thanks I'll read those extensively and get back to you on what I think

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I bet Om is pretty mad no one is gonna read his dumb games

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Yeah he's lashing out a lot, he already said he was pissed off cuz his cat died earlier or something. So I'll let him slide

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Well I think he's town so I don't care about his dead dog or whatever, and I still don't like the fact that Om voted for him even if it's about meta or something

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My dog died so I'm gonna make mean posts on my forum mafia game and call every1 retarded - UberNinja

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Except UN never said anything about something dying except wanting mollie to die.

You are either scum or an idiot

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Goddammit Majiffy hahahahahhaha

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Yeah that's really lame.

Om is still probably scum

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I feel like everyone sucks and is wrong and we should just lynch theunderarchivers

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VOTE: underarchivers

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Alright Dan why the read on Zab

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I'm 99% pos arc is not in this game

Yeah idk what he's doing

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I haven't gotten to that post you've quoted yet. I will judge it when I get there but yes it doesn't seem scummy. Still possible to fake.

Oh really, I should have read it

Where is this quote MattP

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Wut do you want?

Whatever ActionDan is talking about

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I don't think he could be talking to anybody else

I'm just curious on what it is because I haven't read anything concerning you and IAI

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Nah I'll read it later nevermind

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Everything about Om and his replacement is bad

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You can't do basic english

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That's cute

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Okay so Archivers hops on AJ for not wanting to spend extra time on a game that has a bankable fucking deadline.

Why can't we lynch him already

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Why is Mastin not posting in this thread anyway

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Mastin left Nero Cain out to dry as scum that's pretty funny

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So he’s blasting me for asking Boner a question that he doesn’t even understand why I’m asking. This is stupid.

What? I don't think I even mentioned you there

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I was talking about IAI not the Mastin/Nero hydra

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Don't really like how Vifam is more concerned with Matts town read on Hero than his read on his own slot.

I don't see how this is scummy

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I have no idea what you mean by that

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Bye

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What the hell did he mean by "knowing my alignment"

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Good then stop wasting time and vote IAI

vifam may be scum btw just wanted to say he would be a good investigation because he'll coast if he's scum

I went from your biggest townread to probable scum why

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ArcAngel is so cute

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But how the hell do you get confused reading 20 pages of this game

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OMG, did you just admitted yourself that you are in wagon becuz you didn't want to do scum hunting?
I thought i was the laziest bum on this planet... Gawd. you worse!!!

I geniunely want to do scum hunt, I ll only join wagon if there is one and if i find that person suspect, most likely on my terms!!!

This is a terrible post and since you replaced in you haven't done anything to make your slot look town at all

I still like you though

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Oh

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I'm such an asshole

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-.-

In my defense girls on my Facebook talk like her all the time I thought she was just being cute

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Vifam (i'm confused here because mist said in an earlier post from the hydra that she was going to convince me vifam could be scummy, but she posted "townie" in her reads in the QT...so)

This is a scum hydra signature move. Trust the guy who's been in a number of scum hydras, and seen plenty more in operation.

I mean, yeah, the whole reads list is pretty abysmal and looks entirely faked, but this? This is what stands out like a sore thumb the most.

The hydra dissonance? You've been showing the same exact thing

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I don't even think hydra dissonance is scummy at all it's not necessarily town either though

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How is it when they have hydra dissonance it's scummy but when you have it your being ostracized

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But my read on you and Boner tells me that one of you is trying to use the other one.. so I can't tell who is scum in you but i am guessing one of you is likely scum

I don't think either of us are the type of player that gets "used" no matter what alligment

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That's dumb paranoia

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I am pretty good at scum though so it's okay

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Vifam (i'm confused here because mist said in an earlier post from the hydra that she was going to convince me vifam could be scummy, but she posted "townie" in her reads in the QT...so)

This is a scum hydra signature move. Trust the guy who's been in a number of scum hydras, and seen plenty more in operation.

I mean, yeah, the whole reads list is pretty abysmal and looks entirely faked, but this? This is what stands out like a sore thumb the most.

The hydra dissonance?

No. That exact line about being confused by your partner's reads and their transition. I've seen it from scum hydras, I've done it as a scum hydra. It's simply not a town hydra post.

Uh I don't think so, at any point hydras are going to have miscommunication, town or scum. This isn't much of an argument

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UA is close to a lynch I want to lynch him guys

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urgh please die

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What a bad post, trying to cover up Nero Cain's (and yours I guess) scumminess by claiming he's not "charismatic".

sddasd lynch him plz

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Anyone that thinks UA is scummy and isn't on UA should probably consider switching over since we're almost down to only 11 days bankable.

This, if you aren't lynching UA if you think he could be scum you're being extremely dumb and a detriment to the town

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Next time don't throw Nero Cain under the bus if you get a scum role PM ijs

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Sure thing. Take off myself and Vifam, add in yourself, and presto.

To be fair that seems to be Nero Cain's reads, not his

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I'm rarely wrong

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Vote Archiver

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Why is this guy not lynched yet

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Oh my jesus

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Fine, whatever.
I hope you are all right and he is scum

Unvote

VOTE: TheUnderAchivers

You are something else

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Urgh

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If you are scum drop the act

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The Om slot was already bad and Angel makes it worse

Holy shit UA if you're town just don't sit there and fling shit at Majiffy, this your chance to read the thread THOROUGHLY and get some last minute reads in.

I don't think you're town but if you are get it together

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Holy shit UA if you're town just don't sit there and fling shit at Majiffy, this your chance to read the thread THOROUGHLY and get some last minute reads in.

We have everything we're going to get. You have our suspects, in the eight names.

You know my interpretation, of who the four scum in there are. JS and Majiffy are both mutual. Aj as well, albeit weaker. Hero's mine, Matt's Nero's, and IAI is a weak scumread of both. UN a slight townread of both, and you, dunno.


All which can be done is to strengthen what we've already established as our reads.

I was really hoping for something more indepth if you're town, could you at least try

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Eh whatever I don't think you're town anyway and you're probably continuing this argument because you're petty

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wtf is this shit

arcangel I know you are not this stupid you subbed into majiffy's game gracefully and got sus of obvscum adam right away. holy shit I have lost my town read on you.

I was confused and put myself in a wrong place.. anyways, What's done is done. Let's wait for the result.

^ not buying it. I feel somewhat confident that you are at the very least a decent player and you went from a no lynch to a hammer --------> wtf

that's was for to save the days... so that in the end we may good amount of time to play the game.
and don't tell me Majiffy was wrong about time frame that he indicated.
I rather kill myself if that wasn't true..

lmfao

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Matt said something about vifam but idk if Matt ever answered

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What I'm saying is that sentence made no sense

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He did respond

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4685028

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Lame

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I thought Bitmap was town because of his fight with MattP at the start of D1 and the way he went about it the whole time seemed town.

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5 secs of looking at that post and everyone should have a town-read on you

Bitmap was already town anyway so it's not like it's a revelation


Really dumb case on me though

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Majiffy is probably who I'm gonna vote unless I change my mind

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I don't remember it being in the thread before the lock but you outright said just a few posts ago

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I don't think the mod even mentioned it

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Yeah I was about to tell you to fuck off

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VOTE: Majiffy

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Majiffy's argument towards the end of the day was useless and Mastin was probably right about what he was doing the whole time

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The amount of shit being flung for no reason at all when twilight hit was ridiculous and seeing as UA flipped town (My bad) it just looks like Majiffy was compensating for the mislynch.

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I read your IAI case during the night phase and it kind sucks so sorry MattP

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I probably should have read it and told you that earlier so you don't bring in that dumb case into D2 but hey what are you gonna do

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No seriously, we lynched your superduper scumread who was so connected to IaI yesterday. And you and vifam have just kind of been a thing all game.

what is your read on Majiffy and why?

I don't remember anyone saying Mastin/Nero were scum because they had a connection to IAI

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VOTE: mattp

I hope you are just mad because that makes no sense otherwise

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lmao

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I'm sure Arc isn't always this dumb why is everything she does so exaggerated