NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

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VOTE: Herobrine

That was fucking easy

MattP

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Why the fuck are people RVS'ing when there are a few decent leads already?

Anyone that RVSs now is just shitty scum trying to prolong the bullshit period of the game

~MattP

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FOS BonerPolice

I expected better from you

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Don't forget to be posh, guys.

SO POSH

Vote: Vifam

because Vifam.

For those who didn't read the playerlist and don't read signatures, this is a hydra of Mist7676 and Rob13. I don't know how Mist feels about this going forward, but I have no qualms about signing my posts to aid in meta-checking and the like. Let me know if you have a strong opinion about whether or not I should be signing posts.

~Rob

when Thor and I play our hydra.

Oh my god, that sounds horrific. It's hard enough playing with either of you separately. Together?

*shudder*

~Rob

P-edit: OMG it's an OMGUS vote! EVERYONE VOTE VIFAM!!!!!!!!1!!!1111!!!1111111

P-P-edit: lol, you guys would name your hydra "boner police"

P-P-P-edit: OMG STOP POSTING STUFF

P-P-P-P-edit: FML

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Vifam read on Herobrine?

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Hey Boner, Om does this sort of shit all the time with the fluff posting. What makes this so scummy?

You need to be more imaginitive

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Honestly don't even worry about it, just leave your vote there

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Bitmap what's your read on me

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Bitmap what's your read on me

It's way too early and there isn't enough substance. If I said you were leaning town/scum, I would be lying.

FOS BonerPolice

????????????

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This sounds forced to me. You think you have one good lead in me, but that's sketchy at best, and you're bitching about people keeping us in RVS on page 1 when over half of the game hasn't posted. Seems legit.

Lol

Cute

Unvote

VOTE: Bitmap

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Ur throwin me in a whirlpool Vifam

First thing I said to Reck 10 posts into the game was "Vifam/Herobrine scumteam 2013"

But bussing ur scumbuddy at a time like this? Scandalous

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Still p convinced you're scum though Vifam even tho Hero is probtown

Bitmap is just funner to kick around than you

Also I got us out of RVS halfway through pg 2 uhmmm so don't I get lynch immunity til at least D2?

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Yep, Matt's being insecure about his read on me. He's gleaming town now.

I don't think that's a tell for me but whatever u wanna say to look like ur scumhunting

Why do you think Hero is town

In post 23, Boner Police wrote:
Why the fuck are people RVS'ing when there are a few decent leads already?

Anyone that RVSs now is just shitty scum trying to prolong the bullshit period of the game

~MattP


This sounds forced to me. You think you have one good lead in me, but that's sketchy at best, and you're bitching about people keeping us in RVS on page 1 when over half of the game hasn't posted. Seems legit.

I don't think they're good enough to juggle both simultaneously juggling a slight scumread on me and defending themselves from a scumread I have on them at the same time. Seems too parallel as opposed to direct, and then not only that but in the next post to completely and utterly disregard their read on me and vote with me. Really sloppy, not neat enough to be scum

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Oh so because he's playing sloppy he can't be scum

This is a better way of saying it. People can be sloppy by going back on their word / lie and that's scummy. But he didn't go back on his word, he just posted a feeling he had that was transient and moved on along and as scum you make up fake shit and build fake cases around it. Yeah as scum come 10 pages later you can forget something, but it was one post. I believe the thought process was genuine, and therefore I think he's town.

Better?

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Also Bitmap is softly trying to push a Herobrine lynch this ENTIRE TIME with shit like post 76 when he has "no reads"

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You really are on another plane when it comes to this stuff

U should give a reason for why Hero is a good lynch instead of wasting time trying to discredit me

Just some advice 4 u

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Lolk Bitmap is scum GG I'm right

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Bitmap just went from calling me GLEAMING TOWN to SCUM because of "one sloppy post"

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You're also ALWAYS paranoid about me when you don't know my alignment but this game you auto-glorified me for a fucking ridiculous reason being that I "am ashamed of my reads" when I am absolutely not ashamed of my reads and never showed that I was

HEY BITMAP SHOW ME WHERE I WAS ASHAMED ABOUT MY READS

You literally suck as scum go fucking die

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You've NEVER claimed that shit as a tell about me

Fucking bullshit

you suck!!!

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Lol, I think talking about ongoing games is a no-no so I can't answer your question, Matt.

I didn't ask you a damn question, I'm telling you

So Boner Police and Bitmap are town then.

WTF why the fuck is Bitmap town all of a sudden, explain your damn reads

And me too Mr. Spectator

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Show me EXACTLY where I was "ashamed about my read on you" Bitmap

Get better at hiding your boner

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You know how feeling from another game transfer to a new game? Yeah.

Just post the parts of my posts that exhibited "shame" and bold the important parts

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Post it Bitmap and if I believe you we can quickwagon mozamis how about that

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well now things just got interesting

in what way?

What a useless question

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My name is MattP and I feel a heavy weight on my shoulders when I read someone wrong on a forum mafia game - Matt P

dude i posted that in an ongoing game WTF

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why is trying to get more information from a player useless?
Oh, hang on, it's not.

This isn't English

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Oh I just figured out the English

What can you derive from that question

Tell me exactly

What answer were you looking for

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You know that game... I was scum but you thought I was town and I was pretty high on your town list? And then I said I was scum and you were like, I'm sad? Yeah, that.

I just explicitly told you NOT to reference an ongoing game and to instead quote the posts from here and bold the parts that PERTAINED to your point. Good job

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Ok Bitmap is town and an idiot

Moving on

VOTE: Mozamis

This one is actually correct though

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Ok Bitmap is town and an idiot

I thought it was pretty bloody obvious from the beginning.

Not particularly.

I think we're both biased though

Vote Mozamis, read his ISO it's pretty funny

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Frightfully delighted to be here. Tally-ho, what, what?
Cool video. But I wonder where the word "Posh" came from?

I guess a signature would be spiffing, rob old bean.

Shitty

So Boner Police and Bitmap are town then.

He's posting a lot, and with very little time between his posts, it suggests spontoneity and a clean conscience.
Same goes for you.

Shitty reasoning to clear two people

well now things just got interesting

in what way?

Shitty question that is obvious BS scumhunting

why is trying to get more information from a player useless?
Oh, hang on, it's not.

Shitty snarkiness

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Although I do agree with your thing about his opening post, I don't think his snarkiness is a scumtell

ok fine ur town

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from my frige lol

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I'm going to sheep the MattP/xRECKx hydra all game. Just so we're clear.

You have a townread on me?

Any other reads?

Vote mozamis

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Okay I forgot everything I just read.
MattP tell me who to vote.

When people come into the thread and ask me who they should vote, that's not endearing that's frustrating

Read the thread, see if you agree with me, which you should, and then vote mozamis

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Why is he scummy

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His posts don't sit right with me, can't put my finger on why.

Lol

I wanna call you town because of that but I don't want to because of that

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I'm very sad that I only have 6 confident townreads right now, including myself

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I have those and chkflip, and I am innocent was but I'm becoming iffy on that after a reread. He just seems so damn innocent

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yea rev is town

I was holding off on defending him to see what he said but yep

Also chk is obv town

Glad to confirm my town reads moving right along

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I'm not liking reverend right now. He's slightly scum in my book. Too many votes with no times for reactions. Nothing but bouncing like a kid in a bounce house.

VOTE: aj
VOTE: om
VOTE: bitmap
VOTE: vifam
VOTE: PV
VOTE: Nero
VOTE: aj
VOTE: josh
VOTE: UN
VOTE: Majiffy
VOTE: mozamis

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OMG, why is this 11 pages?

I'll get Matt to catch me up, my job was just "find the perfect avatar"

~Reck

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Okay apparently Vifam is either bleedingly obvtown or really stupid ballsy scum okay?

So he lives for now until we can figure this shit out

RECKONER

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Okay apparently Vifam is either bleedingly obvtown or really stupid ballsy scum okay?

That's the best kind of scum, realistically. The one who does things so stupid, it's kind of smart.

Now these kinds of fluff comments, these kinds come from town

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I don't think I've done a single dumb thing in this game and I'm pretty insulted

One thing, but it was what made me sure you were town so it's ok

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What was it

nonono thats a secret [;

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ok [:

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The only post Reck's made was the one signed by him

Reck will sign all his posts. I will not. When reck forgets to sign, it means that I've posted

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content post pls Majiffy

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Make that 11.

No, vry important pls post something perceptive

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You're breakin my heart Majiffy

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Bitmap is conf-VI and really shouldn't be lynched D1 since he'll oust his partners, if he's scum, given more time to post reads and what have you.

I don't like that this is the most competent I've seen you

Maybe you're just sincerely improving

That's looks like a backhanded compliment but it's not

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PV, you're wrong

I was on Hero for stupid posting

Bitmap said that Om stupid posts all the time but I don't think that's scummy, COMPARED to Hero who I am on

Idk why he made that comparison, it was fuckin weird, but your "slip" theory is wrong

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Yes, he is using Om as an example. Not defending him. And normally scum don't get daytalk. Maybe they do and since it isn't mentioned in the rule set, only scum would know. Scum slip?

~mist

I don't like this

I don't like bitmap much anymore

I don't like mozamis

My therapist wants me to be more open

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Yeah, I really don't care if I'm lynch fodder.

now now I never said you were scum, just that I don't like you

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Bitmap is town town town
Chkflip is town town town
I am Innocent is town town town
Vifam is town town town
Reverend is town town town
Aj the epic is town town town
Majiffy is town town town
Boner Police is town (note: just town X1, the perfect blend)

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Om, you have one job and that's to come into every game and bleed town. You've failed your duty

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I like that vote. Explain it

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and there are some I think need to be added.

Shoot

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mozamos or w/e the fuck his name is for starters

WHAT? He's a town town town read to you???

also boner guy(z) were those meta reads?

Fuck no I don't do meta

PV: I thought you were going for that. Ok good but I'm not voting there.

Also if it's not evident I'm very strongly townhunting

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Lol now your scumreads

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Yeah, I was sleeping when PMs went out.

Zabriel, right now you're going into the Ordinary group, but you can move into the Spectacular group if you show me some pizazz

Don't worry, you didn't miss much.

U should stop promoting laziness especially if you're town

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I reckon you'll get over it.

That's xReckon's job

But seriously as a favor to me

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we might as well just give up if matt and reck are scum

Why?

Are you going to buddy me or be consistently paranoid with me?

Are you going to be an "issue" UN?

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Caring isn't a specialty of mine.

You sure cared in our newbie game

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22937

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Matt shouldn't you be sleeping?

I dont ever wanna sleep again I feel fresh as a daisy

(olivers snoring)

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Now explain how my behavior in this game deviates from my behavior in the previous game?

Are you just waiting until you get that burning scumread then? Because in that game you were all over me (as I was to you)

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Don't I always?

Also my vote is on scum, what more do you want?

idk

Never mind, you're town, waste of discussion

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Also his wall was town as fuck

Basically

PeregrineV - 22
theunderachivers (hydra of Nero Cain and Mastin) - 1
pirate mollie - 11
Lord Mhork - 1
Om of the Nom - 20
Josh Lyman - 1
Herobrine (hydra of Mist7676 and Rob13) - 19
mozamis - 18
JacobSavage - 3
UberNinja - 3

Scum are here (I included post count to insure I wasn't being biased to calling more spammy players town, but only the top 3 players not including myself are townreads to me)

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All right, I just daycopped om to be sure and he's scum

VOTE: Om

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I can't be scum
I haven't replaced out yet

I don't believe in meta very much, but you're much more quiet and shitty as scum and much more hectic as town

You don't need to explain yourself tho, because of the guilty [:

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hectic

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4206435

lol

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Idk why I'm arguing with confscum

This is essentially a 1v1, or you're a miller, but instead you're pandering to me

really scummy to me

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That's not hectic, that's stupid buddying and throwing around the word "scum" like a teenage girl

When you're town you're scatterbrained

Not here

Also you buddied me IMMEDIATELY prior to even reading the game

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i read the game
i just didn't remember it
it was too early for me to remember anything

So you read the game and had me as an obvtown enough read to immediately sheep me even though in the past you've always shown major hesitance to trust me

And simultaneously you had no scumreads

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Unvote
Vote: Mozamis

Get into the game Om or you're a liability. Your best asset it your bleeding towniness. Make this game easier for me.

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Bitmap sucks, let's fucking talk about that too

WTF was all that shit during the om wagon

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Actually the shoot undid it

Bitmap is fine, just of subpar intelligence

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FTR I'm p sure om is town but if he continues to do this shit I bet I'll doubt my read in 10 pages

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I think knowing everyone has him as a scumread and is asking for his death he would have given up as scum

Look at UNs mini normal

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=800

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his ISO

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I actually agree

But I'm not ready to move on

When/if I do, it would be to Hero

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Nah, don't have any day abilities, sorry.

lol

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Hero will prob be the lynch today, but there's like 6 people that need to speak up before that happens

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The fact that you are taking Reverend seriously is disconcerting

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Am I not supposed to?

If you can't distinguish between his serious portions of his posts and his non-serious portions you should be upset with yourself

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Posts like 254 are serious and make him OBVtown

He jokes a lot with a dry humor

Be able to tell which is which

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What about mollie? Is she obvtown too?

Uhm why are you asking me do I have some special power???

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ALL OF MY HATE FOR HOW LONG THIS GAME IS

~RECK

(PS i dont like post 483)

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hey boner, I reached out and it did not give me the warm fuzzies....why is that?

I just wanna see you post, don't mind me

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I'm pretty damn sure you're town now tho

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VOTE: Lord Mhork

This is my most certain read so far

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Why

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Aw man ok

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VOTE: UN

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Keep lol'in

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So BonerPolice fake claimed day cop to get a reaction out of Om? Talent.

Fake claiming day vig is really stupid

Why is that stupid but fakeclaiming daycop isn't?

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Town:
-MattP
-Vifam
-Reverend
-I am Innocent
-Zabriel
-Penguin_alien
-Om
-Bitmap

Probtown
-Majiffy
-Borkjerfan
-Pirate Mollie

Null
-Uberninja
-chkflip
-theunderarchivers (Nero and Mastin2)
-Josh Lyman (where the fuck is this guy)
-Aj the epic

Probscum
-PeregrineV
-JacobSavage
-Mozamis
-Herobrine

These go also in order from most town to most scum. I feel pretty confident about them.

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Town:
-MattP
-Vifam
-Reverend
-I am Innocent
-Zabriel
-Penguin_alien
-Om
-Bitmap

Probtown
-Majiffy
-Borkjerfan
-Pirate Mollie

Null
-Uberninja
-chkflip
-theunderarchivers (Nero and Mastin2)
-Josh Lyman (where the fuck is this guy)
-Aj the epic

Probscum
-PeregrineV
-JacobSavage
-Mozamis
-Herobrine
-Lord Mhork

Forgot the Lord

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*Raises glasses*

I strongly suggest a Mhork lynch. Let it be said.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4673048

This is a terrible case that you completely manipulated to make Pirate Mollie look back. I dout you believe your case, Hero, and I can only see scum intent for trying to rationalize a relational tell between Pirate Mollie and Mozamis like that. It's so incredibly convoluted that it is outright ridiculous.

Mhork is being lynched today. I would also appreciate not seeing JacobSavage around when tomorrow starts. We can worry about Mozamis and Hero in day phase since they bleed scum so hard.

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You're first, you're the one drawing a reaction there. Afterward, there is no reason to fake claim dayvig (especially when someone listed that by Bitmap doing that, it gained him hypothetical town points). By fake dayvigging, I feel that it's useless and suspicious because the objective was completed by the fakeclaim day cop. Also, think about it: If Om happens to be one of the roles, the first thing he'll do is counterclaim. So, by adding more roles to the pressure case against him, more likely he'll counter claim. In a way, it's a role fish.

Seems legit. You were probtown besides that

You should vote Mhork. If you need a case I can draft one up but his ISO is scummy as fuck

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Okay I'd like to hear the Mhork case

Getting on it chief. Also Chkflip is simply a backtrack due to meta. He's being too competent for me. I'll wait til bhe slips, town-wise or scum-wise

Point out specifically what you think is unfair or manipulative in that case. I used mollie's established scum meta that I'm aware of in conjunction with her forced read on moz and subsequent inability to provide any explanation for her read to paint her as scum, yes. That's because it WAS scummy.

Your case requires THREE leaps. The first is that PM is scum. The second is that PM would follow that same meta she previously followed. The THIRD is that her read on mozamis is fabricated and therefore that's the scum. The fact that you're trying to manipulate everything to try to point to something like that is ridiculous. Start with calling them scum independently. Relational tells shouldn't involve the extra dose of meta tells or they became hilariously unindicative of anything.

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I'm having the same problem with chkflip that I once had with Venmar. Either chkflip progressed IMMENSELY in his town skill in an incredibly short amount of time, both in scumhunting and sureness of himself, or he's scum. He's much more positive and cocky than he usually is.

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And he's clearing people that are town much more so than any other game I've seen him in. Which leads me to think that he's more easily glorifying town members because of his insider info. If he flips scum it'll really help us put together the pieces. I bet he is treating players similar to their actual alignments should he be scum

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SK isn't much better, you can be cocky as SK because in the end you want EVERYONE dead. There is only true confusion and repercussion for poor actions as town

Also I haven't read that thread, but show me a recent town game where you've gotten cockier

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I hate games where I have to make cases. Just read Mhork. He is scummy, a lot of people agree, his confusion about Reverend and asking me for my random read on a player and never following up on it was weird, his wall post sucked, he's bad, he's scum, lynch him

SHEEP POWERS ACTIVATE

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Jacob, do something substantial, right now

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Hypothesis: Don't talk about game mechanics like that because it's unfair to the mod

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Herobrine should def be the vig kill

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I don't like to imagine that a mod would confirm a player as town as punishment to them. I don't want to talk about it

Mhork lynch ahoy

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A "case" to me is literally quoting everything you have posted and saying, "he posted this"

I don't "make cases"

It's against my meta regardless of alignment

Only in rare cases will I do it, if I'm like on my last rope

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Hero, respond to my point about your crappy pirate mollie case

pirate mollie, read on mhork now please