Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[thezmon221]

Quick notes on MattP/KJ from yours truly, Thez:

If ANYTHING important happened between pgs 15 and 87 pls tell me

Yeah this sends a bit of a jolt to my scumdar (that’s what we call it where I’m from, not sure if you guys use the terminology). It’s not necessarily that he didn’t want to read all 87 pges because I definitely understand, there’s like 2000+ posts. What kind of sets me off is:
A) He decided to read Pages 1-15, probably the least important pages.
B) He then consequently never even read at least the last 5-10 pages to at least get an idea of the topic at hand…

Don't dislike. As in like or appreciate.

Also, everyone mass nameclaimed Matt. I thought you said you were mostly caught up earlier but I do not know why.

I've read nothing except for my predecessors ISO, which I read to see if the slot was town before replacing in

I will read the first 15 pages and I'd like a decent catchup post because I'm doin u all a nice good favor of joining an EIGHTY page game that's only on day 2

1. Shouldn’t you know your slot’s alignment?
2. His excuse for not reading the pages is that he’s doing us a favor in joining this game? SC could’ve gotten someone else then. He willingly joined the game, he needs to invest the time.

Tell me where the limit is so I can push it harder

This is pretty null, but you look like you like to start shit and instigate in this post.

Give me like 3 days and you'll be rly happy I promise I just need to find the scum

It’s been 5 days and he hasn’t yet. Maybe we’ll get something from him today?

Conclusion on MattP after the following note of KJ.

ckd why aren't you voting

vote killerjester.

I dont like how you were urging me to vote. all the time you had your vote on Sixx, I specifically asked for people to provide reasons to vote for "your" guy. Sixx and Ztife were leading wagons here. Instead of giving me a case on "someone you thought was scum (sixx)" you just asked why I wasnt voting. were you trying to get me to vote the leading wagon (the guy who wasnt who you thought was scum)?

if you really thought Sixx was scum, you would have have posted your reason for voting sixx, THEN asked why I wasnt voting. or posted your case THEN ask my thoughts on it. instead, you just half assed it, trying to look like you were scum hunting but not really doing anything town.

why didnt you provide a case for Sixx if you really wanted me to vote? I mean a could have crumbled under the pressure and voted Ztife instead of Sixx...didnt you want me to vote who you thought was scum?

So, this is the only real post of any substance I found to really be used either for KJ or against him. It IS an old post, however, and does not refer to MattP much. KJ himself was not in the game much (posting-wise) and did not do anything that I really found useful.

So in summation, MattP hasn’t made any real contribution to the game and has been lazy about even reading the pages. Not that skimming is a definitive scum tell, but to just all out ignore the rest of the game save what was majorly RVS? That’s scummy IMO.

So... I guess those are my thoughts, not much on KJ, more on MattP. I think he's definitely scummy and do want to hear more from him.

VOTE: MattP

[ArcAngel9]

Caught up, and still not sure of any scum.

Not at all willing to lynch:

B&B
nj
Nacho
Dumbledore
Librarian
myself :p

Don't want to lynch:

Baby Spice
Llama
Thezmon
Jal
darthe
bumi

Would not mind lynching:
nhammen
AA
AJ
ztife

Not sure about:
anyone not named

I'm gonna keep my vote where it is for now. My gut read says town and my brain says scum, and I trust my brain more. I honestly don't have enough evidence yet to be sure about anything, but this is as good a bet as any.

I do want to hear more from ztife, though, and especially from some of the unknowns. If your name isn't on any of these lists, I want to hear your thoughts on the game.

I found this post from Skyhook is very odd. Everyone in his scum list are town which includes me..
And his don't want to lynch list also has one confirmed town and i really doubt that reat could be scum...

And His not willing to lynch at all list also has three confirmed townies... and Dumbledore and Mini Librarian
I have had my doubts on Mini since the game has begun.

UNVOTE

VOTE: SKyHook

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Albus Dumbledore (1): Darthe
JacobSavage (1): Albus Dumbledore
MattP (1): thezmon221
Skyhook (1): ArcAngel9
Not voting (12): Baby Spice, Boniface, curiouskarmadog, Edosurist, JacobSavage, Jal, jmj3000, MattP, PeregrineV, Skyhook, The Mini-Librarian, UVApe

With

16

alive, it takes

9

players to lynch.

[MattP]

I may have to replace out, I am bogged down with school, which started Monday

[Darthe]

Okay, I am not sad about this at all now. Also, not bad casing from Thez.

vote mattp

[StrangerCoug]

I may have to replace out, I am bogged down with school, which started Monday

Let me know if and when you make this official.

[Baby Spice]

I've read nothing except for my predecessors ISO, which I read to see if the slot was town

before replacing in

1. Shouldn’t you know your slot’s alignment?

Tell me where the limit is so I can push it harder

This is pretty null, but you look like you like to start shit and instigate in this post.

I don't even know what you mean by this comment Thez.

Give me like 3 days and you'll be rly happy I promise I just need to find the scum

It’s been 5 days and he hasn’t yet. Maybe we’ll get something from him today?

Three of which were night, and one of which was some crappy question directed at Jal while he claimed to be reading.

Alignment indicative? Not really.
Useful. Also, not really.

ckd why aren't you voting

<snip>

So, this is the only real post of any substance I found to really be used either for KJ or against him. It IS an old post, however, and does not refer to MattP much.

Really, his only post of substance? For there are a few. Not as many as there should be, but more than that one piddly little post. I'd also be incredibly surprised if KillJester managed to refer to the guy who replaces him some 1100 posts later. Also, if you're going to quote "his one post of substance", why use a largish post of CKD's that quotes it?

So in summation, MattP hasn’t made any real contribution to the game and has been lazy about even reading the pages. Not that skimming is a definitive scum tell, but to just all out ignore the rest of the game save what was majorly RVS? That’s scummy IMO.

So, in your opinion, we had what, the first eight pages, or 200 posts, of RVS despite you pretty much stating that as far as you were concerned we were out of RVS by page four.

I don't really have any reads to vote for right now when we've just recently left RVS.

I didn't RVS, I voted to apply pressure

I hope people can see why I have problems with Thez's "not bad casing". Little in it says MattP is scummy.

If we still had a vig I would have called MattP vig bait.
Now, I'd consider him a policy or deadline lynch candidate.

Thez on the other hand.

Thez, you are pulling from all over the place to try and make a scumcase on MattP/KJ. You even went to far as to try and piggyback onto CKD's case with that quoting of #1135.
It really, really looks like you set out to find an easy target and stitch something together to try and get an excuse to vote him that wasn't outright sheeping.

[JacobSavage]

Who would kill njospeh?

[curiouskarmadog]

still reading..havent read recent posts. though I did just see this.

Who would kill njospeh?

why would you ask this question versus going to look it up yourself?

hint: in skimming/reading the answer is quite apparent, what concerns me is what is the point of of your question? what answer are you looking for and why was it not look it up yourself.

of course, if this is in reply to something that was just posted...please ignore this post.

[JacobSavage]

Why didn't we kill killerjester day 1?

The only thing I can find is:

Lets go for that for now VOTE: MattP.

[ArcAngel9]

Jaco, Whats your read on SkyHook?
do you still think he is town?

[ArcAngel9]

Jaco, Whats your read on SkyHook?
do you still think he is town?

[JacobSavage]

I think so...

[Boniface]

Thez, in the first comment you quoted, I think MattP knows his slot's alignment. He meant he was checking to see if the player he replaced played in a way that looked protown or if he was going to have to worry about having a target on his back, regardless of his alightment.

Town wouldn't have to worry about that

VOTE: MattP

[The Mini-Librarian]

I was roleblocked last night

Really the only explanation for B&B's death.

Not voting yet, cause I need to regroup. Gut says to vote Dumbledore.

[Darthe]

It isn't a bad gut then. However, we need MattP gone yesterday.

[StrangerCoug]

MattP has requested replacement.

[ArcAngel9]

If not Skyhook, I strongly think there is scum in Albus and Mini. does anyone agree on this?

[Darthe]

Not with Skyhook or Mini but it is cute that you're trying.

[JacobSavage]

Agreed with Albus certainly. He's been tunnelling since D1
VOTE: AlbusDumbledoor

[ArcAngel9]

Unvote

VOTE: Albus

[jmj3000]

I will get to this when I get home from work tonight.

[The Mini-Librarian]

VOTE: albus

still don't see kj/mattp scum.

Might be down with a skyhook lynch too.

[Darthe]

Whoa there, slow down people, lets give this thing some delicacy like you would a lady.

It is far too forward to kill without first asking.

Dumby, what are you thinking and why are you getting lynched today? Why shouldnt you?

[thezmon221]

Tell me where the limit is so I can push it harder

This is pretty null, but you look like you like to start shit and instigate in this post.

I don't even know what you mean by this comment Thez.

It was me commenting on him wanting to instigate arguments with... Jal.

Give me like 3 days and you'll be rly happy I promise I just need to find the scum

It’s been 5 days and he hasn’t yet. Maybe we’ll get something from him today?

Three of which were night, and one of which was some crappy question directed at Jal while he claimed to be reading.

Fair enough, but he has now replaced out. You think that's indicative of something?

ckd why aren't you voting

<snip>

So, this is the only real post of any substance I found to really

be used either for KJ or against him.

It IS an old post, however, and does not refer to MattP much.

Really, his only post of substance? For there are a few. Not as many as there should be, but more than that one piddly little post.

I'd also be incredibly surprised if KillJester managed to refer to the guy who replaces him some 1100 posts later.

Also, if you're going to quote "his one post of substance", why use a largish post of CKD's that quotes it?

You didn't read that right. I bolded the key words for you. It's not from KJ, but about him. Nobody but CKD has really had any case on the slot, so that was the only post I found which was anything regarding him, which was not him, but another.

I also don't understand what you're asking with the question. He was referring to CKD.

So in summation, MattP hasn’t made any real contribution to the game and has been lazy about even reading the pages. Not that skimming is a definitive scum tell, but to just all out ignore the rest of the game save what was majorly RVS? That’s scummy IMO.

So, in your opinion, we had what, the first eight pages, or 200 posts, of RVS despite you pretty much stating that as far as you were concerned we were out of RVS by page four.

What does my opinion on when we got out of RVS have to do with this? I'm sure we're all aware that the past 87 pages was NOT RVS. And he decided to just skip the last 72 of them, but read what consisted of RVS, and VERY early reactions (not that they are wrong, but they aren't as up-to-date with the events as the last 10 or so pages).

If we still had a vig I would have called MattP vig bait.
Now, I'd consider him a policy or deadline lynch candidate.

I doubt he'd be vig bait. He was really quiet and I think the vig, whom we know to be njoseph, would probably start picking people they think are scummy.

Thez, you are pulling from all over the place to try and make a scumcase on MattP/KJ. You even went to far as to try and piggyback onto CKD's case with that quoting of #1135.
It really, really looks like you set out to find an easy target and stitch something together to try and get an excuse to vote him that wasn't outright sheeping.

Wait wait wait wait wait... wait. You're telling me that I can't use prior cases and expand upon them? So... then... what do you call a lot of the cases made for either Sixx or me? (Ztife not included because the vast majority of his votes were from people who wanted to end the day). Of course, Aj is a strange case and I think only really B&B ever had any reasoning for his lynch.

JS: You're feeling real lynch-happy aren't you? Care to give a reason other than this tunnel? And AA/TML?