Micro 102: Mainstream Mini-Mafia [END, CULT WIN]

[JacobSavage]

Oh hai.

Couple of questions,
Majiffy: what is your relation to Thor?
Who other than Siv do you think is scum?

The guy with one of the Hammer bros as an avatar: Why is Majiffy s likely partners if he is scum?



In terms of general things, I'm stuck with phoneposting relying on rather crummy WiFi til the 6th may try and make a decent post a couple of days afterward.

[JacobSavage]

Oops thought I had posted ...

Majiffy looks town, he appears to be far to relaxed to be scum.
Pirate is a little murrrr but can be town for now, Voided can join her.

Siv is probably scum, although be appears to have disappeared...

Will post more tonight I hope

[JacobSavage]

Yeah fourtroble looks scum as anything,

I'm getting some good town-reads so far, having trouble getting strong scum-reads though

. majiffy still looking suspicious to me, and mollie as well now.

I don't know about you but that to me reads as scum, afraid scum prefer not to tread on anyones toes til they have to. Town however should have nothing to fear.

VOTE: FT

[JacobSavage]

I've also spelled trouble wrong opps...

[JacobSavage]

Love you too mollie

[JacobSavage]

God help us all...

[JacobSavage]

I really want the scum team to be Thor / Majiffy just for the sheer horror. However I have come to realise that Thor is normally right so I'll just sheep him, and Majiffy is a good scum hunter so I'll sheep those two for now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Human Destroyer

That's L-1.

[JacobSavage]

I really want the scum team to be Thor / Majiffy just for the sheer horror. However I have come to realise that Thor is normally right so I'll just sheep him, and Majiffy is a good scum hunter so I'll sheep those two for now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Human Destroyer

That's L-1.

[JacobSavage]

I'm afraid I'm not scum sorry, try again.

[JacobSavage]

Sorry I found it scummy so...

Sorry I got distracted , it happens far too much... I might do it tonight if I can be bothered. Also I don't think there was a bandwagon on on Ft at the time. Anyway why is sheeping two players who have proved themselves as good scum hunters be scummy anyway? I'd rather sheep them than rely on my very weak reads.

[JacobSavage]

Meh, I found one of his posts chummy I voted him, is that really that bad.

[JacobSavage]

I don't get your point. Yes it's a bandwagon vote but it wasn't a vote because there was a bandwagon.
Anyway I'm going to sleep soon.

[JacobSavage]

I came to the realisation that Thor is very hard to read the last game I played with him.

That and if he is town he's a very effective scum hunter, same with Majiffy.

[JacobSavage]

See Thor I always assumed that cult and Mafia are separate, i.e. A Mafia of 1 maybe 2 players and a separate 3rd party cult (which has a recruiter or some recruiting power) . But meh, I've never played with a cult before

[JacobSavage]

EBMODP, I have it was a marathon and I got lynched day 1.

Also I should have pointed out that is what my interpretation of the Mods post was.

[JacobSavage]

Hello and welcome to Mainstream Mini-Mafia! I will forewarn you one final time that there is, in fact, a cult in this game. And that is all I will digress about the setup so, please, wait to discuss it until post .

[JacobSavage]

• Unless you're the moderator (that's me, obviously), co-moderator, or backup moderator (Thor665) of this game, please do not delete or edit any posts in this thread. If I catch you, you go bye-bye.
  me privately.

[JacobSavage]

I think I'm going to sheep Thor.... he is the back up mod after all.

And sure, if you can give a case or something resembling one.

P-edit ssshh you, spoiling my fun

[JacobSavage]

Can I just point out Mollie, I have been on.this site for just under three years but I have 8 completed games and had a huge hiatus about 9/10 months after I joined. So yeah....

[JacobSavage]

Hey Mollie, can you provide any reasons behind these?

VOTE: four trouble

VOTE: jacob savage

VOTE: orcinus

VOTE: four trouble

Also tempted to Sig this...

Jacob is probably the towniest player in the game, even if he's as useless as a five dollar whore when you have no condoms.

[JacobSavage]

Scummily Copypasting what HD already said in hopes of us ignoring what you just did in lieu of you trying to give stuff, Jacob?

I wanted to ask whether see had reasons behind the votes, which is something HD forgot to do.

[JacobSavage]

Well I didn't see it

[JacobSavage]

Wait I thought we already new there was a third party.... That and isn't an alarmist quite a good PR in a.cult game?
Anyway I always assumed cult could recruit at infinitum but in a micro game....

[JacobSavage]

So um yeah if Thor thinks HD is scum then he's probably scum.

If Thor and.Majiffy think HD is scum then it's almost definitely true...

[JacobSavage]

Judging by the current meta claiming VT doesn't seam actually that weird a claim from town. Stop it HD you're making me doubt myself!

[JacobSavage]

Yes I realised he was my scum buddy. Turns out reading your Role PM is surprisingly useful...

The main reason is 1. I didn't want to vote and then risk somescum quickhammering 2. I'm doubting myself

[JacobSavage]

Wait damn it, sorry Mod

• Claiming to be scum with someone else will result in a modkill.

[JacobSavage]

VOTE: HD

Fine have my vote Majiffy... seriously Mollie is town I don't think anyone can argue with that.

[JacobSavage]

Yes, yes it is

[JacobSavage]

Wait I don't think it was....

[JacobSavage]

Okay so basically FT is claiming a cop result on Majiffy. Majiffy says we lynch FT... genius lets lynch someone who can give us more results tommorrow. ..

[JacobSavage]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Majiffy

Honestl, doing anything but this is stupid. If he's scum he's either just busted his team mate or it'll be obvious after the flip.

[JacobSavage]

If Majiffy is scum then.FT is confirmed. Literally there is no reason for him to bus given that hardly anyone suspected MJ and he wasn't exactly slipping under the radar.

[JacobSavage]

Point, we'll see when he flips in the morning

[JacobSavage]

VOTE: FT

If Cult didn't cult the obvious clear then they are fools.

[JacobSavage]

Something makes me think that its Voided but I honestly don't know

[JacobSavage]

It's not that bad to be honest. There's been 1 night kill...

[JacobSavage]

Because it rather lynch someone I am almost certain is cult rather someone that is possibly a leader, HD.

Because quite possibly Majiffy thought that Orc was more likely to be scum. Can you think of a reason given that Majiffy is an SK that your argument holds up?

[JacobSavage]

I see your thinking. Also do we want to mass claim today?

[JacobSavage]

I'm going to assume the worst until proven otherwise.

[JacobSavage]

Yeah I would assume a unlimited recruiting cult, especially if they don't have a kill

[JacobSavage]

Also do we want to mass claim today?

[JacobSavage]

That is assuming that you haven't been culted that is to be fair.
Also how do you get your results is it scum/not scum, town/not town, guility/innocent or what?

[JacobSavage]

Cop's Result

[JacobSavage]

It was a question on whether cult would show up in your results.

[JacobSavage]

I still have a horrible feeling that Ft is cult (which would.make a Void = Cult leader idea not look too bad.)

But yeah what about HD thor?

[JacobSavage]

If we're talking about Void then I was going at it from a if FT was culted it makes sense that he would claim an innocent on his culter don't you agree?

[JacobSavage]

Okay got it.

I'm pretty sure that's what most.people would.do (especially given that in EM cults die if they target scu, don't.know.if that's the same here) and it's possible that we have a 2man scum team that's has no Nk or is that too unbalanced?

[JacobSavage]

hmmm... if you say so...

[JacobSavage]

I'm still confused about why it's me or Rach?

[JacobSavage]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that mafia can't be culted as they couldn't just out their team mates

[JacobSavage]

I thought it was generally assumed that SKs are investigation immune but that shows how.much I know.

[JacobSavage]

I've been a psychologist that could find Serial Killers (Fun fact found him N1 and spent the rest of the game Paranoid that the Mod was toying with me, it was a Normal...)

But yeah generally this is the case I assume.

[JacobSavage]

Because that would mean she'd have to argue with you

[JacobSavage]

Or:

Voided is Cult Leader.

Think about it.

Voided cults either Jacob or Rach N1 since they've flown under the radar for pretty much the whole game.

Voided then cults claimed cop (FT) N2 for obvious reasons, tells FT to fake an innocent on Voided. Voided gets Rach/Jacob lynched to get towncred to "prove" FT isn't lying.

N3, cults Thor, gets him lynched D4, pretty much becomes conf-town.

Does anyone else follow this?

Stop it HD, I dint like it when you make sense

[JacobSavage]

Also, questions D: tommorrow...

[JacobSavage]

Stop it HD, I dint like it when you make sense

It's actually a damn good plan for anyone, tbh. (just replace Rach/Jacob for me on N1 for anyone else and it's basically the same)

Wait doesn't that mean Ft is almost certainly culted?

[JacobSavage]

I mean I can't see why you wouldn't to ve fair. Cult the clear.

[JacobSavage]

I'm happy to start it popcorn style.

[JacobSavage]

Ft got an innocent on Voided I even.posted a link to it

[JacobSavage]

Bodyguard.

Voided go

[JacobSavage]

I die if my target is targeted

[JacobSavage]

Then nothing happens. I assume.

[JacobSavage]

Majiffy night 1, you night 2

[JacobSavage]

A fishing ability....

[JacobSavage]

2. Voidedmafia - JOAT
4. pirate mollie -VT
5. Human Destroyer -
6. Thor - VT
7. JacobSavage - BG
8. FourTrouble - Cop
9. RachMarie - VT

For HD x

[JacobSavage]

Oh okay, sorry x
Actually forgot about that....

So yeah discuss...

[JacobSavage]

Cop
JOAT (Tracker/Fishing/Backup)
Alarmist
Bodyguard
4 VTs

Serial Killer

Cult

[JacobSavage]

I was just in a game where he forgot he was a neighbourizer. He only found out upon his flip....

[JacobSavage]

Majiffy. Hence the lynch

[JacobSavage]

A tracker/rolecop and a cop does seem far too townsided.
I mean considering there's 9 players I wouldn't have more than 1 investigative role but somebody more experienced at balancing can tell me if that's silly.

[JacobSavage]

I can't see their being a goon in the set up to be fair (Itll be far too unbalanced) and Voids role is not one you'd think off straight away when you claim.

Basicaly FT is the recruiter, his claim is far too overpowered (I mean we havent exactly got standard roles have we, BG, JOAT and Alarmist seems a better bit together than replacing Cop with any of them)

So yeah:

VOTE: Four Trouble

[JacobSavage]

This Thread:

[JacobSavage]

If you look at the claims we're pretty sure (well I'm pretty sure) that the cult recruiter is in the PRs

[JacobSavage]

And yeah I believe JOAT over Cop especially as Rach said. So yeah join me on Ft peoples.

[JacobSavage]

Basically my issue is that I don't see why there would be a Cop in this set up especially with those options.
I mean yes I can see more likely recruiters but I still can't see a Cop in this set up.

Meh, I'll think about it.
UNVOTE:

[JacobSavage]

VOTE: FT

It's just so painfully obvious, FT is cult simple as.

[JacobSavage]

lol chk just went to prod me after I made that post

Genius.

Anyway,

Bomb's

Hammer's Away HD

[JacobSavage]

We have time.

Any objections?

We'll Wait for Mollie to check in.

Thor/Mollie

do you agree with a FT lynch?

[JacobSavage]

I believe you are the recruiter. Your claim makes no sense.

[JacobSavage]

Your results. That and it doesn't make sense that this setup would have a cop and a tracker.

[JacobSavage]

It's a little overpowered and the fact that it's town/scum rather than town /cult with Invest immune

[JacobSavage]

Serial Killer.

[JacobSavage]

[JacobSavage]

Who else do you want to win with? Human Destroyer, RachMarie, or Voidedmafia? I can end the game as soon as you reply.

God this is hard!

Original Roll String: 1d3 (STATIC)

1 3-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Going by Playlist: Voided.

I couldn't bring myself to make the decision...

[JacobSavage]

I was like all three of you helped me / intended to help me. So I was like, let the dice decide!

[JacobSavage]

^Yeah what he said.
I mean once you start saying things like that then my bodyguard claim for example would have been less believable and then someone who claimed tracker would then be confirmed. I believe it was here that the mod practically confirmed that Konowa was the Serial Killer. (To be fair he had admitted it himself, but hilarity ensused when his replacement tried to claim VT...)

Also I meant to ask, what did you mean by ballsy...

[JacobSavage]

To be honest I took a gamble, if there was one I'd 1v1 til the cows come home.

That and to be honest it was unlikely that there was a protective role in the game, especially against a lone SK and Doc would have been way too powerfull.

See if I went for VT I would have been up against HD and Rach so...

P-edit: In fairness even if I was town I would have gone with FT... also Chkflip any chance of role PMs?

[JacobSavage]

I was worried that niether of you actually knew who else was in your team

Yeah I recruited Thor because I knew he would be strong (it was a toss up between him and Majiffy) and I choose Mollie bacause 1. She wasn't FT allowing me to push the FT must be recruited, 2. She was regarded as town by almost everyone.

[JacobSavage]

Also I think FT did investigate every night.
Also I am surprised that no one picked up that I didn't protect FT...

[JacobSavage]

I asked the mod. I would have suicided. And Doc protects wouldn't work.

So yeah quite glad I did.

Actually thats a point.

[JacobSavage]

Yeah I was surprised at the sudden change, I mean for most of that last Day it was just me, you, Void and HD that was sad

But i guess it was because he didn't want to draw attention to himself.

[JacobSavage]

Yeah I did go hunting around for him for a bit and found he hasn't be on as much as he normally is.

Hahah its fine, to be fair it was rather intersting when it looked like I could get the town cop lynched using just me and townies... but

[JacobSavage]

Its fine we can be patient.
It was kind of unlucky that oorc got killed so early, it would of been a very different game had be been alive.

[JacobSavage]

Its fine we can be patient.
It was kind of unlucky that oorc got killed so early, it would of been a very different game had be been alive.

[JacobSavage]

CHK, when can we expect the large theme that comes out this to appear?

[JacobSavage]

Ive seen that happen far too often now, players forgetting their role. Perhaps you should include a rule in your rule set that you must respond with a no action PM or be prodded halfway through the night?

[JacobSavage]

I guess, it does help with balance though

[JacobSavage]

As in lets say you were running a game and the serial killer forgot their role that would change the whole let up of the game.

[JacobSavage]

I guess but to be fair I would still just remind them in the morning hey you didn't send in anything last night, that's cool

[JacobSavage]

Oh dear... how?

[JacobSavage]

I would but I fear there's rules against it...

[JacobSavage]

I don't know but I'm Glad they did.

Also who were you on N1?