Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[ArcAngel9]

Fine.

Here you go.... Xavier Lee, the driver of a 2002 Ferrari Enzo and a vanilla townie. I have my car, my brain and voting abilities.

[PeregrineV]

I'ma page or two back, but see names and cars.

Jun Watanabe, 2002 Toyota Spyder

[Darthe]

I do not have nearly good enough reads on some people. I am going to go back and ISO a group at a time, isoing both an individual and their replacement(s). Currently I thought worse of Edo than I do mcqueen but find neither tactically advantageous to have around. We will see what the reread yields.

I think the mafias have fake claims.

Has anybody else considered the possibility of a third group? That would kill us.

Btw, the high power tuners that you can't really find on the streets don't fit. Such as the Lamborghini.

[Darthe]

I meant Ferrari.

[PeregrineV]

Vote: DV

@Allyra-

Why Jal? I feel like we had this conversation yesterday....

dv is a good vote cuz he's likely scum. his question about tml's roleclaim in Post 2708 reads really fake now that tml flipped scum. but i don't want anyone to forget that jal is scum too. you might have decided she's not, but i'm not fooled by her fake posts. i'm going to have to make a case aren't i? and here i gave them up for lent .

I kind of prefer them.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

DeasVail (2): PeregrineV, Darthe
Jal (1): Allyra
mcqueen (1): Slandaar
Not voting (6): ArcAngel9, DeasVail, Jal, Lurker, mcqueen, penguin_alien

With

10

alive, it takes

6

players to lynch.

The previous vote counts have been corrected to show PeregrineV as voting DeasVail.

[Slandaar]

but find neither tactically advantageous to have around.

What?

[Slandaar]

Mcqueen - VT - Genoveffa Benvenuti - 2005

Toyota Celica GT-S

PV - VT - Jun Watanabe - 2002

Toyota Spyder

Jal - VT - Jarosław Wojciechowski -

1973 Plymouth Barracuda GT.

Slandaar - VT - Dean Carter -

2009 Dodge Challenger

Allyra - VT - Theodore Greene -

2002 Nissan sentra

Penguin - VT - Billy Sanders -

1997 Nissan 240SX.

DV - VT - Yvette le Mieux - 1967 Buick Wildcat
Darthe - Neighbour VT - Irene Yates - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
ArcAngel - VT - Xavier Lee - 2002 Ferrari Enzo

Lurker - VT - ??? - 2007 Honda Civic Type S.

If you look at all the cars a lot pair up there is never 3 and they are always from the same alignment

I think this makes Lurker conftown as his pairs with Ztife along with Allyra/Penguin.

I think Jal has to be town based on her claim

This means Mcqueen/PV are both red scum and then 1 town in DV/Darthe/AA.

Yes I know fakeclaims; the point is, I think the idea was that people were paired up and it kind of becomes a lovers setup even with the fakeclaims.

If you don't understand why mine and Jals pair go read wiki.

DV is blue scum I think.

I expect Darthe is town and AA the final redscum.

The reason it has to be something like this is because otherwise there would be a serious warning you need to know about cars so there must be something simple to balance towns power and I expect this is it.

DV blue

Mcqueen/PV/AA red.

[mcqueen]

no. i think it's terrible to base alignments off of role names. it's too risky. moderators can play with the names all day, and make it seem as if something is what it is not.

i'm a vt, i honestly barely remember what type of car i am as it is, i have no intention of remembering every else's, and trying to pair them up.

[Slandaar]

Well you tell me why there are only 2 PR then

[mcqueen]

Well you tell me why there are only 2 PR then

scum are fcing with the easiest trick in the book: vt.

i dont know if ive played a game with you when i used to fc alot, but its really not hard to tell when i do. ive learned to stop it, as i usually fuck up, and ive lost a game off of claiming early (my real role), and then claimed that i also had a 1-shot vig ability on day 7, 8, or 9, i cant remember which day i died, but it was in worst roles mafia, modded by izakthegoomba. it was awhile ago, before i siteflaked.

[ArcAngel9]

Slandaar - Your theory don't make sense to me.
How does the bunch of car old car model names can confirm anyone townie?

[mcqueen]

also, if there are two more red mafia, from my experience, that would balance it for the most part, though there is probly another pr or two, but i doubt there are more than 1 blue mafia remaining, if even that.

[penguin_alien]

Slandaar, if you want me to check this out, post the link and I will, but does your theory line up with the dead?

[PeregrineV]

Thought the game was based on the video game, and figured someone here has played it and knows the flavor.

[penguin_alien]

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[Slandaar]

Pretty sure my reads are right

There are 4 cars that don't pair up from town but the point is; those that do are always the same alignment. (and they might pair up somehow)

[Slandaar]

Well you tell me why there are only 2 PR then

scum are fcing with the easiest trick in the book: vt.

I mean it doesn't need to be more obvious Mcqueen is scum

There are only 2 Town PR because scum are claiming VT? lol.

[Allyra]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DV

[mcqueen]

Well you tell me why there are only 2 PR then

scum are fcing with the easiest trick in the book: vt.

I mean it doesn't need to be more obvious Mcqueen is scum

There are only 2 Town PR because scum are claiming VT? lol.

???

dude, this is the lowest game on my priority list, below a newbie game, due to it having 110+ pages, i have no idea what went on, and in a possible 10p in-2-days-its-mylo/lylo situation or some shit.

im not scum man, im confused, which is pretty rare, but youre pretty stupid if you cant tell my confusion is not faked. how the fuck can you fake confusion this late in the game. dumb players dont live this far. some other noob will nk them.

and if you cant tell this game is not high on my priorty list, when do i ever not use capitalization, punctuation, and shit like that. rarely ever, and if i did, it's for a couple posts, then i go back to my elegant form of typing these days.

i honestly dont believe we shud lynch someone off of their role name. if you think that, then ill just
VOTE: slandaar

liability, we dont need him in mylo/lylo in 2 days or whenever it comes up

[mcqueen]

dude cant even make a claim either, he expects us to go along with him being conftown because he says so.

pretty obvscum trying to mislead us into believing the setup is much more complicated than it is.

idk abt the 2 prs, but ik that there are 2 more red mafia, and maybe 2 more prs. that leaves 2 reds, a neighbor, 2 prs, and 5 vts.

obviously, if there are 2 scum left, a pr is not going to participate in a massclaim, bc they dont want to get nked. its not lylo. the only reason the neighbor did, is bc his partner is dead.

also, what if the other 2 prs are neighbors as well. it is a neighbor

hood

. seems a bit scumsided, but if town has that much communication, i can see it passing as balanced overall.

[mcqueen]

DV - VT - Yvette le Mieux - 1967 Buick Wildcat
Darthe - Neighbour VT - Irene Yates - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
ArcAngel - VT - Xavier Lee - 2002 Ferrari Enzo

im a vt, so obv another player fits into my spot where u considered me scum. could be lurker. but this. 2 vts. both neighbors, both neighbor docs or neighbor cops or some crazy shit.

i dont seee multiple individual prs having the idea to claim vt to not get nked. so they discussed it in the neighborhood, and all went with the same idea.

makes sense to me.

[Darthe]

Mcqueen, I can't even comprehend your sentences.

Hey Sal, you left out something. The dead people. Why do you need to specifically link all of the living in such a chaotic way that we much lynch two to get solid answers?

Callin Bullshanks.

unvote vote Jal

I wanna test this and if jal is scum, we got em both.

[penguin_alien]

mcqueen, you're saying that we have PRs who are lying in claiming to avoid the NK? But my understanding is that if one claims in a mass claim situation and then changes that claim later, it's considered grounds for a lynch for being most likely scum trying to capitalize on the now-known results of the mass claim. With the likely exception of a PGO-type PR; obviously at this point they'd want to draw the NKs. I suppose if there are PRs in a neighborhood who can vouch for each other, maybe? But how would we know that's not two scum faking such a set-up? Or are you assuming some super-neighborhood with Darthe and Bumi as well? Which again probably should have been declared during mass claim, at least as VTs in such a neighborhood.

mcqueen calling Slandaar a liability sounds desperate. In my books Slandaar gets a lot of credit for pushing The Mini-Librarian to lynch, and he was moving pretty seriously on Baby Spice before the NK. As blue scum he has little motive for whittling away his own team via the TML lynch, and his push on Baby Spice doesn't seem like he'd want to NK her as opposed to working for the lynch. As red scum it works a bit better in that he wouldn't have anticipated the NK making his Baby Spice push useless, but why bus a teammate when you're not desperate for town cred and you're at full strength? Unless he's a third-party trolling by not showing up in the night kills, I think he's about as far from a liability as we can get. So aside from calling you scum, mcqueen, what's he done that's so scummy in your mind?

VOTE: mcqueen

Darthe, are you working with the theory that Slandaar and Jal are scum together, and that's your 'both'? I plan to investigate how the dead fit into Slandaar's theory tomorrow (I thought the Midnight Racer thing was the mod's invention...not a video game aficionado here) so I'll have to get a handle on the wiki. Meanwhile, Darthe, your case on Baby Spice-TML-Jal was comprehensive, but some of it at least seemed to hinge on Baby Spice and TML being on the same team. It tracks better if Jal is the last blue scum, but your linking Baby Spice to TML as part of a triangle destabilizes things for me. Then with your Slandaar-Jal team theory, if that's what you mean and not that they're separate scum, they can't both be blue unless we have a 5-3 or 5-4 situation. Which seems either inequitable in the former case or pretty formidable in the latter. I'm assuming it's not 5-5 because that would leave six scum alive right now and render this game pretty futile given the PRs claimed to be in the set-up.

[Slandaar]

dude cant even make a claim either

I did claim

idk abt the 2 prs, but ik that there are 2 more red mafia,

How do you know this?

and maybe 2 more prs. that leaves 2 reds, a neighbor, 2 prs, and 5 vts.

There are 0 PR left and we know there is a blue left.

obviously, if there are 2 scum left, a pr is not going to participate in a massclaim, bc they dont want to get nked. its not lylo. the only reason the neighbor did, is bc his partner is dead.

mislynch -> 2 town deaths = 3 town 4 scum alive

This is lylo effectively.

also, what if the other 2 prs are neighbors as well. it is a neighbor

hood

. seems a bit scumsided, but if town has that much communication, i can see it passing as balanced overall.

8 scum vs a hood a doc and a vig

Good balance.