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Post Post #3075 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:42 pm

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VOTE COUNT

DeasVail (3): PeregrineV, Allyra, Jal
wind-up (4): Slandaar, penguin_alien, Lurker, Darthe
Not voting (3): ArcAngel9, DeasVail, wind-up

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Post Post #3076 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:01 pm

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Vote: Wind-up


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Post Post #3077 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:11 pm

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Holy hell, banned from the site? I don't mean to pry but as someone new myself, what could have caused that sort of thing?

Also, yesh. Kill this evil evil slot.
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Post Post #3078 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:54 pm

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I'm not mcqueen; you can unvote.
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Post Post #3079 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:54 pm

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I'm not mcqueen; you can unvote.
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Post Post #3080 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:51 pm

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In post 950, StrangerCoug wrote:ArcAngel9 (1): SlySly
Bumi
(1): PeregrineV
njoseph
(6):
Aj The Epic
,
nhammen
,
thezmon221
, havingfitz,
The Mini-Librarian
,
Sixx

Sixx
(10):
Albus Dumbledore
,
Parama
,
Nachomamma8
,
njoseph
, killerjester,
Edosurist
, Darthe,
Bumi
,
Ztife
, Jal
The Mini-Librarian
(1): Robert2424
Ztife
(2):
BirdAndBeast
, jeck
Not voting (4):
PMysterious
,
JacobSavage
, ArcAngel9,
Baby Spice

I'm not a big fan of vote count analysis on its own, but this is pretty golden (look at those bluescum on njoseph, haha).

--

killerjester (now DeasVail) is probably the final member of his team for how desperate he was to get a jmj3000 or Ztife lynch instead of a Sixx lynch. DeasVail's weak reads on thezmon and TML also point in this direction.

VOTE: DeasVail

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I'm primarily looking at penguin_alien and Lurker's slots for redscum. penguin_alien's jump onto mcqueen seems incredibly out of place (I can't really see any reasons apart from mcqueen 'sounds desperate' calling Slaandar a liability) considering how strong her read on ArcAngel seems to be. Lurker's posts are bad enough in themselves, but SlySly's posting is incredibly scummy. His wagon analyses are transparently him trying to fake scumhunting. I suggest you read what LlamaFluff posted about him, and then contemplate why he might have been nightkilled N1.
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Post Post #3081 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:23 am

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Please can you highlight the parts you are talking about Sly.

Hes town pretty sure; I just want to see if your arguments make sense or not.

DV is likely the last blue scum, yes, but we want to lynch redscum today.
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Post Post #3082 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:46 am

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Really? If the teams are 4:4 and DV is bluescum and we lynch him, then we lose one extra kill per night.

Yeah, I'll post about SlySly tomorrow, but I suggest you take a look at LlamaFluff.
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Post Post #3083 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:47 am

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Really.
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Post Post #3084 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:50 am

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Really! ^-^

Slandaar wrote:I am fairly sure everyone currently voting mcqueen is town

This should be a fairly obvious sign of his alignment.

This actually doesn't follow because townies are wrong often.

Also Lurker and penguin aren't town anyway. (Why is penguin near conftown? What's so townie about Sly's posts?)
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Post Post #3085 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:57 am

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In post 1775, LlamaFluff wrote:Slys case is

Parama realized that Six claimed cop so he would be confirmed NYPD scum which is maybe not only cops and has fakeclaims, yet Six decided not to use one. When Six claimed Parama realized that Six was going to be caught as scum as soon as it became obvious that NYPD was scum in the game and because of this he decided to start defending Six. In the event Parama is not NYPD scum he is other scum who has fakeclaims while the flavor screwed NYPD dont.

In post 1784, LlamaFluff wrote:He either is town who will refuse to consider he is wrong or scum (he also isnt reading my posts since he is suggesting stuff I already brought up). Most likely scum because while he is a below average player, he isnt close to being this below average.

In post 1794, LlamaFluff wrote:Also I love how Sly is using the "no safeclaim" arguement from not only a game I actually called the non-me scumteam entirely correct with the exception of Sly but also didnt need safeclaims as there was no flavor issues, kinda again proving the point that he isnt reading my posts.

If
flavor
needs there to be a fakeclaim then there
are
fakeclaims. If fakeclaims are NOT needed by flavor, they will only sometimes show up.

In post 1885, LlamaFluff wrote:Sly is scum NOT with Six (if I was going for other faction only I would lynch him first - this is by merit of him hunting specifically for one faction which is a massive scumtell in these games)

Whee!

Once you get past the fact that SlySly's posts are intimidatingly long you see they're weaker than overcooked spaghetti.
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Post Post #3086 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:58 am

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Oh yeah did I mention LlamaFluff died Night 1?
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Post Post #3087 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:02 am

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OK lets say I am right all 4 are town

It really doesn't matter if we mislynch because the slot is going to be lynched at some point anyways when 4/6 town are voting it.

It also means there is a 4/6 chance of the slot being scum purely on odds alone.

Then throw in the fact none of the scum had hopped on which is obviously suspicious and it follows.

Let me look at some stuff re Sly one sec.
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Post Post #3088 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:11 am

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In post 1423, Baby Spice wrote:Hell, Slysly could be Sixx's scum buddy who realized that Sixx had actually quoted his role pm and was going to be modkilled regardless.

Probably means hes not red. Baby was more in the business of legitimately hunting blue and ignoring reds.

In post 2576, Jal wrote:Hilariously enough, just about everyone who has had AA as a strong town read has gotten night-killed. I'm loving how wrong Sly's reads have been.

This is what I was looking for though; I forgot who said it, it is interesting because you have Jal saying Slys reads are bad but it doesn't make sense why she chose Sly over everyone else why were his reads so memorable.
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Post Post #3089 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:29 am

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Wind

Your read on me is?
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Post Post #3090 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:30 am

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Is Baby Spice legitimately hunting SlySly in that quote? I don't think so.
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Post Post #3091 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:31 am

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Post Post #3092 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:56 am

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Post Post #3093 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:13 am

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UNVOTE


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Post Post #3094 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:48 am

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Don't you worry about The Artist formerly known as KillerJester, we will get there. But first, Mcqueen2.0 dies.

Also, FoS Lurker, that shit don't make a bit of difference.
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Post Post #3095 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:21 am

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In post 3077, Darthe wrote:Holy hell, banned from the site? I don't mean to pry but as someone new myself, what could have caused that sort of thing?

Read up to see what happened.
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Post Post #3096 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:17 am

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I'm not actually scum though?
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Post Post #3097 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:22 pm

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In post 3095, StrangerCoug wrote:
In post 3077, Darthe wrote:Holy hell, banned from the site? I don't mean to pry but as someone new myself, what could have caused that sort of thing?

Read up to see what happened.


Fair enough. Shitty is shitty, on with the game and etc.

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Post Post #3098 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:23 pm

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In post 3096, DeasVail wrote:I'm not actually scum though?


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Post Post #3099 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:49 pm

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The arguments mcqueen was making made zero sense coming from town. You have Slaandar, who pushed through the case on The Mini-Librarian, which rules him out as blue scum in my mind. There's no way he'd want to leave himself last blue man standing. Then he was pushing the case on Baby Spice in a way that went beyond distancing or bussing at a time when I don't see where the red team needed to make waves. So unlikely red scum. Yet mcqueen was seriously giving us a scum read on Slaandar. So Lurker, new guy comes in and doesn't step in it: his not being super-scummy doesn't negate the actions of his predecessor. And yes, wind-up, I think when someone's pushing a case that is patently full of holes it's unlikely they have town motivations.

As far as ArcAngel9 is concerned, I don't have a town read on her, but mcqueen really pushed your slot to the head of the queue for me. WRT ArcAngel9 in light of The Mini-Librarian's flip, she had TML as a scum read, yet happily voted with TML when wagoning Albus Dumbledore. Then there's the hammer without a claim on JacobSavage. I'm not sure how to interpret her early jump with The Mini-Librarian wagon. If she's the last blue scum, it was a lousy time to bus. If she's red scum, that worked out pretty well. I just get a weird vibe from her inconsistency when it comes to TML, but everyone's writing her off as town, to the point where I don't really want to pursue it above a scum read on your slot unless I can articulate it better, since what I'm saying now obviously isn't persuasive. I also find it puzzling that she skipped out on the whole discussion of the mcqueen slot. Yes, she declared V/LA, but she didn't give us anything on the subject before heading out when it seemed quite feasible that, as a VT claim at L-1, he'd be lynched before her return.

LlamaFluff was definitely calling out SlySly in those posts; I'll look over SlySly-slot's ISO later. It certainly doesn't help in my mind that Lurker was content with you (wind-up) showing up as impetus to unvote if he thought mcqueen was scummy in his own right.
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