Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

DeasVail (4): PeregrineV, Allyra, Jal, wind-up
Slandaar (1): ArcAngel9
wind-up (4): Slandaar, penguin_alien, Darthe, DeasVail
Not voting (1): Lurker

With

10

alive, it takes

6

players to lynch.

[Darthe]

Legitimately, I would not mind if either of these was lynched. The major ass stall and pull on Mcqueen once replaced has me practically begging to kill this one today though. Stall tactics are typically scum unwilling to bus.

[DeasVail]

Also, ArcAngel, I have played with Slandaar lots and I think he's much more like his town self than his scum self here, if that's worth anything.

[penguin_alien]

The arguments mcqueen was making made zero sense coming from town.

Qualify this assertion.

The arguments mcqueen was making made zero sense coming from town...to me? Not sure what you mean by asking me to qualify that. The only reason I see for mcqueen to have made such a lousy argument was an attempt to get the very pro-town Slandaar lynched. Which shouldn't be a town move. So, scum.

Darthe makes a good point about the mcqueen wagon stall. If he's not scum, why didn't scum hammer? Unless we're really going to make the argument that all the other scum jumped on his wagon. I'd buy that blue scum might have already been there, but unless it was Lurker, I just don't see it with Darthe or Slandaar not likely scum of any color. But if mcqueen wasn't red scum, there were four other people on the wagon, none of whom are on my scum list. So why didn't scum hammer? Heaven knows there was enough time, and unless I'm wrong and the red team is Slandaar, Lurker, and Darthe, there should have been red scum off the wagon available to hammer. The only motivation I see not to hammer is if red scum thinks they don't need to bus.

[wind-up]

The arguments mcqueen was making made zero sense coming from town.

Qualify this assertion.

The arguments mcqueen was making made zero sense coming from town...to me? Not sure what you mean by asking me to qualify that.

What arguments were mcqueen making, and why did they make no sense coming from town?

Darthe makes a good point about the mcqueen wagon stall. If he's not scum, why didn't scum hammer? Unless we're really going to make the argument that all the other scum jumped on his wagon. I'd buy that blue scum might have already been there, but unless it was Lurker, I just don't see it with Darthe or Slandaar not likely scum of any color. But if mcqueen wasn't red scum, there were four other people on the wagon, none of whom are on my scum list. So why didn't scum hammer?

Because mislynching town looks bad.

You are so scum. Darthe's point is crap. The wagon stalled because I'm town, and lynching town is bad for our wincon.

[Slandaar]

Penguin is obviously town

Along with Allyra, myself and Jal can be in this group too. Lurker is pretty town so its really 4 scum in 5 and Wind is not the townie.

Wind will be red scum because as Penguin said (and Darthe kind of); he should have been hammered if he were anything else as there would have been way more support for the wagon as that slot is an easy lynch like Jacob except it was a lot harder to get support than the Jacob wagon.

[Slandaar]

Assuming Wind is Red; Darthe is the final town and scum is exactly what I said previously.

[DeasVail]

Nooo Slandaar

[Slandaar]

Sorry DV but I don't believe you have a town PM.



Too quiet etc. Blue makes most sense.

[Slandaar]

I am now going to explain why we want to lynch red today.

If we lynch blue the situation tomorrow is 5:3 that is fact.
If we lynch red the situation tomorrow is anywhere from 4:2:1 (worst case) to 6:1 (best case)

Clearly its just plain better to leave blue alive another day if we had the choice. I am assuming DV is blue and have been for a while now.

[wind-up]

I strongly advise you to consider that the reason you are alive now is because you are wrong.

[wind-up]

Clearly it's better to aim for blue here anyway because then there's one less kill per night.

[wind-up]

Also, lynching red today could still lead to a town loss even if we lynch scum on every subsequent day.

[wind-up]

Red scum, that is.

[Slandaar]

lynching blue today is only best for red scum because then town is in mylo 5:3 and has to lynch 3 scum in a row to win

lynching red today means scum can crosskill and even if it goes to 4:2:1 we can lynch the expected blue scum and be in the exact same spot ie 3:2 is no different to 5:3 except we lynched in a different order.

[Slandaar]

and by suggesting you want to lynch blue you are insinuating you think DV is blue so there should be no issue lynching him as expected blue tomorrow instead of today pending night actions and lynch result.

[Slandaar]

I strongly advise you to consider that the reason you are alive now is because you are wrong.

Sland Replaces in
GET BABY SPICE SHE SCUM GET THE RED SCUM
Baby spice gets nked she flips red

Next day
JAL SCUM JAL SCUM
OH WAIT TML BLUE GET HIM GET HIM
TML flips blue scum

Sland not die at night

Next day
Lets lynch Mcqueen/Wind

How did scum expect this again? they expected me to try to lynch Jal in case its not obvious which is town points her way. I guess your argument is sound; I was wrong on Jal.

[wind-up]

lynching blue today is only best for red scum because then town is in mylo 5:3 and has to lynch 3 scum in a row to win

lynching red today means scum can crosskill and even if it goes to 4:2:1 we can lynch the expected blue scum and be in the exact same spot ie 3:2 is no different to 5:3 except we lynched in a different order.

You are indeed correct. My bad.

I strongly advise you to consider that the reason you are alive now is because you are wrong.

Sland Replaces in
GET BABY SPICE SHE SCUM GET THE RED SCUM
Baby spice gets nked she flips red

Next day
JAL SCUM JAL SCUM
OH WAIT TML BLUE GET HIM GET HIM
TML flips blue scum

Sland not die at night

If scum expected you to lynch Jal today than mcqueen's actions make no sense.

Also, whether or not you've been lynching x person on y day is irrelevant. The point is, your townreads and scumreads have remained remarkably consistent.

[wind-up]

I don't think you're scum, though. Just really wrong. About me, at least.

[wind-up]

I feel like your reads are based on your dumb attempts to outguess the mod + confirmation bias.

[wind-up]

If scum expected you to lynch Jal today than mcqueen's actions make no sense.

From a scum perspective, that is.

They never made sense from a scum perspective anyway because scum don't needlessly draw attention to themselves.

[Darthe]

Is it possible that Slan has this game figured out?


I think so.

[Allyra]

still continuing to like wind-up, though he's wrong about scum not drawing attention to themselves, some do.

still think dv is a good lynch.

[wind-up]

Is it possible that Slan has this game figured out?


I think so.

Is it possible that you are hardcore buddying?


I think so.

[DeasVail]

Sorry DV but I don't believe you have a town PM.



Too quiet etc. Blue makes most sense.

I'm sorry about being quiet, but I am town (and I actually think I'd have been a lot more active as scum).