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In post 8, Doctor Zoidberg MD wrote:What the scum is bus'ing already? Lemme help.
VOTE: Xegarus
-DGB
might as well bus my whole team
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In post 21, Revenus wrote:I'm confused as to what exactly just happened
just hop on the bandwagon
I'm pretty sure brighteyedfish is confirmed scum at this point-
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In post 60, absta101 wrote:
@Bacde
What do you mean?Bacde wrote:I'ma just Vote: Revenus since it seems like no one else has noticed this scum
No one else has voted for Rev
usually Rev finds it very important to be scumhunting and out in the open
this is the first time I've seen him explicitly hiding-
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In post 64, Hiraki wrote:
so basically you don't like me because i think you require deathIn post 52, Bacde wrote:Hiraki is throwing me off
his reads are all way different than mine plus he has me in his potential lynch pool
ok
didn't you put me down as a "last resort" lynch?
that's something different than saying that I "require death"
I'm just saying your reads are all different than mine
For instance, absta's posts have been pretty town yet you think his posts are bad
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@Hiraki -- so basically my meta on Rev is bad because its meta, and you have a counter-meta point on Rev being town. My meta case is bad because its p3 but you have a better meta case that is also p3 (at best)
I don't really know what you are trying to say about BEF. I'm used to every game havingthat playerand I got off the BEF wagon as soon as I realized how lazy it was
Also, thereisa reason to note when I'm in your lynch pool, since what you post is a part of the game for me to make comments on
I'm used to other townies having different reads than me, but I'm not used to over-reactions to me just making it explicit.
Vote: Hiraki
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In post 79, kashoodles wrote:I thought I had tagged more things to quote... hmm. Re-read through the pages.
@Bacde
In post 27, Bacde wrote:^^If I wasn't already happy with my vote right now I'd hop on
Brighteyedfish and Xeg for scum
who's the third?
Can you explain this? At this point, you sheeped BrightEyedFish from Zoidberg, which is fine, we were in RVS-ish stage, but then you say this. Literally all BrightEyedFish said at that point was "Nice list... How'd you come up with it?"
It takes about 10 seconds of original thought to realize that Zoidberg made a list with all of the players who had posted as "Town" (except Ms Marangal who was "iffy" for voting Zoidberg) and everyone else as scum
since BEF didn't realize this, I figured he was scum for not being fully mentally present in the game. Scum are in a different headspace than town and often aren't able to replicate the analytic thought process town have
now he just seems derp
In post 79, kashoodles wrote:
I'm confused also as to why you're voting Rev, especially because his confusion is similar to mine about the comment quoted. You seem semi-serious yet semi-trolling (or just semi-trying to copy Zoidberg?).
Its gut based on the way Rev has been playing this game
But I think Hiraki is more likely to be scum than Rev, #75 was too bad
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In post 113, Hiraki wrote:
Because one is trying to kill the person and one is trying to keep the person alive. If you're going to make a case to kill someone, you better have some good evidence on your back. If you're going to call someone town, there should be some reason but definitely not as concrete as full-fledged scumread. Just because you're addressing two extremes doesn't mean that the two extremes are equal in stance.Bache wrote:so basically my meta on Rev is bad because its meta, and you have a counter-meta point on Rev being town.
Hiraki, here's the thing: Mafia is a game all about killing people
There isn't some requirement out there that I need more or less evidence to want to lynch someone than to say that they are town
...whats your case on BEF, by the way? (oh wait you don't even have one)
In post 113, Hiraki wrote:
And you don't think he took advantage of that?Bache wrote:I'm used to every game having that player and I got off the BEF wagon as soon as I realized how lazy it was
Have you even looked into BEF's meta? He only has like 5 pages. There's no way this dude is "taking advantage" of my read on him. He might be getting lucky, but to be frank I don't see him being good enough of a player to manipulate how I perceive events.
In post 113, Hiraki wrote:
While I had no reasoning. That's basically an RVS reaction--just not in RVS. Your reaction after it is a vote, basically. I'm going to make my move.Bache wrote:Also, there is a reason to note when I'm in your lynch pool, since what you post is a part of the game for me to make comments on
If we don't find consensus on BEF, then I'm going after Bacde.
So if you made a statement with little reasoning, then you should have been looking for a reaction. But when I reacted, you then stated that I had no reason to respond to your post. Dude, you as much reason to respond to my "Hiraki is throwing me off" post as I had to respond to your first content post of the game! Reactions to posts are good--which is why I try to comment on as many things that stand out to me as possible
I don't even understand why you are still on the BEF wagon, you seem much more interested in me (oh wait, you are scum aren't you)-
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In post 112, Xegarus wrote:In post 77, Doctor Zoidberg MD wrote:In post 76, Xegarus wrote:Nothing particular. Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.
You are so scum.
How so?
Mind if i ask a newbie question?
In a game with 13 players, how many scum would you expect?
3 is the norm
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In post 185, kashoodles wrote:before absta*
Xeg hasn't looked good all game
it started at the beginning of the game when he was looking for reasons toNOTvote absta rather than reasonstovote for absta (which is meh by itself but)
but he continually chirps phrases that are forced and fake
and then follows up with a bad absta vote (who I've been reading as town)
so of course if people are down to vote for Xeg I'll hop on-
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In post 187, kashoodles wrote:In post 129, Bacde wrote:^^town
This was before full blown Keyblade, but you seem to ignore all of his interactions with people and jump right on the Xeg lynch. Why are you ignoring a big part of town discussion yet selecting to jump on Xeg's lynch?
I'm not ignoring a big part of town discussion
I think IFM is town and I don't understand the BW on him (actually I do, its a lazy BW)
I don't know what to make of Keyblade--but gun to my head I'd say town since toes-stepping is a towntell-
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its a vote
In post 207, Xegarus wrote:
In post 202, Bacde wrote:it started at the beginning of the game when he was looking for reasons to NOT vote absta rather than reasons to vote for absta (which is meh by itself but)
but he continually chirps phrases that are forced and fake
Care to gives examples for each of these?
I'd love to
In post 25, Xegarus wrote:
And thats a reason not to vote him?
I think i'm happy with my vote atm.
here's you looking for reasons to not vote someone rather than vote them
I remembered this as being specific to absta and not BEF, so my memory is a bit failing but the tell is still accurate
Here are some particularly fake posts of yours (bold is mine for emphasis):
In post 45, Xegarus wrote:
Disliked and found odd.
In post 44, absta101 wrote:I don't see why you "liked" your vote on me if what I did wasn't scummy.
My vote was originally RVS, i liked where it was later to apply pressure because of the odd thing you said.
In post 76, Xegarus wrote:In post 74, absta101 wrote:In post 63, Xegarus wrote:In post 60, absta101 wrote:Do you care for my answer to this question? You haven't pushed it or mentioned that I still haven't answered it.
It was a rhetorical question.
What were you expecting scum-absta would do in response to your pressure vote?
Nothing particular.Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.
In post 112, Xegarus wrote:In post 77, Doctor Zoidberg MD wrote:In post 76, Xegarus wrote:Nothing particular. Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.
You are so scum.
How so?
Mind if i ask a newbie question?
In a game with 13 players, how many scum would you expect?
In post 207, Xegarus wrote:
In post 202, Bacde wrote:and then follows up with a bad absta vote (who I've been reading as town)
So you're buying his crappy wagon jumping?
You're buying his evidentless reason for voting?
Fine,buddy your scum partner. When i flip town, the two of you'll be in the firing line.
all of this, plus post 207 has a particularly heinous scumtell right at the very beginning-
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In post 219, Revenus wrote:In post 209, Bacde wrote:all of this, plus post 207 has a particularly heinous scumtell right at the very beginning
I'm with you on Xeg being scummy, but I looked for where this heinous scumtell was and couldn't really find anything in that post that jumped out...care to elaborate?
its his reaction to getting votes
Ztife did the same thing in playing with fire-
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In post 281, Lurker wrote:In post 250, Doctor Zoidberg MD wrote:In post 249, Lurker wrote:I still think keyblade is scum.
Let's examine your case on keyblade for a bit:
In post 133, Lurker wrote:Side note: I really don't like how in #41 Safety doesn't vote me, notices my behavior, then votes for me WITH THE EXACT SAME REASONING. I don't know why he waited, but it is nothing in and of itself.
Keyblade is acting pretty badly.
He gets into a breif flame war as soon as he is in the game, Talks about ongoing games, Continues this until page 5, where he votes for someone with a replacement, Then IMMEDIATLEY backslides and wails "why are you lynching meeee", and then tries to get Safety onto another wagon, following by saying there is no reasoning for his wagon, even though he stated "You're overreacting", which at this stage of the game is more then sufficient to warrant a vote.
VOTE: Keybladeweilder
Just outlining what he's done is not evidence of anything. What is the scum motivation behind doing the things he's done? Why is getting into a brief flame war scummy? Why is talking about ongoing games scummy? Why is whatever else scummy?
You have to demonstrate that keyblade is coming from a scum mindset.
This looks like a well thought out response except for one thing:
I NEVER SAID
#1 That he was scum in this post.
#2 That I thought these things were scummy.
You are trying to figure out information that I don't have.
Rephrase the question or you get no answer from me.
I said that he was acting "Pretty Badly"
uh,
doesn't your vote of KBW imply both #1 and #2?
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In post 281, Lurker wrote:In post 250, Doctor Zoidberg MD wrote:In post 249, Lurker wrote:I still think keyblade is scum.
Let's examine your case on keyblade for a bit:
In post 133, Lurker wrote:Side note: I really don't like how in #41 Safety doesn't vote me, notices my behavior, then votes for me WITH THE EXACT SAME REASONING. I don't know why he waited, but it is nothing in and of itself.
Keyblade is acting pretty badly.
He gets into a breif flame war as soon as he is in the game, Talks about ongoing games, Continues this until page 5, where he votes for someone with a replacement, Then IMMEDIATLEY backslides and wails "why are you lynching meeee", and then tries to get Safety onto another wagon, following by saying there is no reasoning for his wagon, even though he stated "You're overreacting", which at this stage of the game is more then sufficient to warrant a vote.
VOTE: Keybladeweilder
Just outlining what he's done is not evidence of anything. What is the scum motivation behind doing the things he's done? Why is getting into a brief flame war scummy? Why is talking about ongoing games scummy? Why is whatever else scummy?
You have to demonstrate that keyblade is coming from a scum mindset.
This looks like a well thought out response except for one thing:
I NEVER SAID
#1 That he was scum in this post.
#2 That I thought these things were scummy.
You are trying to figure out information that I don't have.
Rephrase the question or you get no answer from me.
I said that he was acting "Pretty Badly"
In post 296, Lurker wrote:@ Kashooldes (Regarding #285, trying to avoid walls o quotes since i don't know how to do the spoiler thingy.)
Q1. Why I voted for Keyblade: The wagon I would say offically became official at post #121 (SafetyDance's vote), followed by IFM and me jumping on the wagon. Now, before this, I was voting BrightEyedFish, who then replaced out. When that slot got replaced by IFM, IFM's first post just screams TOWN TOWN TOWN to me.
He takes a really nice approach to replacing into a slot under scrutiny, and accepts the behavior of his last slot instead of getting a scapegoat for all the votes.
Whe KBW Reacted @ post #122, I saw one of the first tells I was taught in (Some open masons and mafia game, I can't find it right now): Overreacting is a scumtell.
This I found sufficient for a vote.
@Comment #2. I find what you found scummy of that post is not that I am lurking and not giving content, It's that I was backtracking and trying to change what I meant in order to change your read on me. As you said, it is more then just lurkiness, and lurkiness alone is not a sufficient reason IMO to lynch me.
I'll think about more things to comment on when I come back. Hopefully I will actually do it.
Vote: Lurker
@Kashoodles What about lurker's last post made you unvote?-
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In post 314, RandomYoshi wrote:Oh God, I just got to the part where KBW outer the Neighbourhood. On that topic, are people still undecided on his alignment, by the way? I've seen arguments that supports him being Scum, and I've seen arguments that supports him being Town. Personally, I feel that he was frustrated Town who didn't know how to handle pressure at all, and decided to out the Neighbourhood out of pure frustration.
Completely unrelated to this, I don't like Bacde's quasi-OMGUS attack on Hiarki that lasted throughout pages 3-4. In fact, Hiarki only had Bacde in his lynchpool as a last resort, yet Bacde thought that Hiarki said that Bacde required death. To me, it seems like Bacde is afraid of being lynched. Bacde, are you Scum?
Hi Yoshi
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In post 356, absta101 wrote:@Doctor- I'm not voting Keyblade.
Regarding Xeg:
- His last post in this game was #207 on March 20th.
- He then posted 5 times the next day (March 21st) in a different game from around 6 am - 8 pm (my time).
- He V/LA'd here and elsewhere on the 23rd.
He could've posted here on the 21st as he was quite active on that day. It's not vote worthy by itself though imo.
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@Bacde- What do you think of Xeg/Kash?
Xeg looked bad but Zdenek actually looks pretty good on replace-in
I've replaced into scummy-looking slots before that were town, and Zdenek makes me think thats what going on
Kash's first post was really town, but recently her play has been weird imo. I don't understand why she unvoted Lurker for what was a terrible post, and I keep feeling like she is trying to set me up for suspicion or a mislynch or something with her grilling me w/ questions but not voting me
I could see Kash as scum but actually I want to give Zdenek more time
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In post 393, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 52, Bacde wrote:I'ma just Vote: Revenus since it seems like no one else has noticed this scum
I thought Rev looked null-townish at this point. Was this a serious vote?
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In post 420, Hiraki wrote:
He's literally not aggressive at all. What do you mean?In post 411, Bacde wrote:^^ehh this feels like town AP
I'm just not getting that gut sense that AP is mafia
in the one game I've played with AP-scum, I got that gut sense. And I didn't listen to it. And I lost-
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In post 427, AngryPidgeon wrote:Urg, I'll try to keep an open mind wrt Lurker, but his post where he calmly explained why he did everything he did read really genuine to me.
I can keep this in mind
but you gotta do the same about absta
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In post 431, absta101 wrote:Bacde stop avoiding the Zed waggon. Forget Rev and Lurker and just vote Zed, it's that simple.
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@Rev - I want to keep them alive so we don't waste our Zed lynch on them.
Kash is gut. I've said it before.
If you haven't noticed, I'm avoiding your wagon as well
I don't feel like you read Zd's posts-
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In post 74, absta101 wrote:In post 63, Xegarus wrote:In post 60, absta101 wrote:Do you care for my answer to this question? You haven't pushed it or mentioned that I still haven't answered it.
It was a rhetorical question.
What were you expecting scum-absta would do in response to your pressure vote?
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In post 123, absta101 wrote:In post 122, Keybladewielder wrote:WTF? you have to Unvote first. Why am I scummy here?
Give me 2 reasons.
You're over reacting.
VOTE: KeyBlade
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I agree that Fish replacing out makes him look like newb scum caving under pressure.
I support his waggon.
Gut scum read on Xeg atm.
@absta, why is Xeg necessarily a scum-replace out,
but Fish is a town-replace out
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In post 469, absta101 wrote:In post 468, Bacde wrote:not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning
I hope you're scum.
You are, aren't you?
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In post 469, absta101 wrote:In post 468, Bacde wrote:not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning
I hope you're scum.
You are, aren't you?
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In post 475, absta101 wrote:In post 471, Bacde wrote:In post 469, absta101 wrote:In post 468, Bacde wrote:not really, his vote was way less opportunistic and had better reasoning
I hope you're scum.
You are, aren't you?
yep, you caught me
Spoiler alert Breaking Bad:
HEY THATS A WAY DIFFERENT SITUATION WALTER WHITE SAID YOU "GOT" ME I SAID YOU "CAUGHT" ME
also I'm town
If you had to narrow down your suspects to just 3 people instead of 5, who would they be?-
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In post 481, absta101 wrote:In post 477, Bacde wrote:@absta, can you answer #473 as well as the question above?
When I get back.
As for your other question.
Zed
You or Safety
Kash
I can see either you or Kash working with Zed.
ugh
this is so bad I'm tempted to hop on the bw-
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