Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[PeregrineV]

AAs case on me is basically this; If I were town I should have known DV were redscum and voted him.

Obviously this is untrue; as town there is no way for me to know this; and that is literally her whole case so shes scum.

PV what is your case?

also; no red doesn't have a bp that was DV he died.

Why did you list the possibilities of lynching town? not lynching scum considering this must be what you think is going to happen?

Mine is mostly PoE, since a lot of the logical scum moves weren't made by key players in certain positions to do so. It doesn't help that your now throwing up illogical arguments or using circular logic or not answering questions.

Oh, didn't read the description closely, just saw the color.

I'm listing all the possibilities, since scum color has now become more important than the fact they are scum.

[PeregrineV]

7 alive, 4 town, 2 redscum, 1 bluescum.

Lynch redscum today, makes it 4:1:1.

then, tomorrow, assuming nothing hinky,

it's

4:0:0
or
3:1:1
or
3:0:1
or
2:1:1
or
3:1:0

4:0:0 town win

3:1 of any color means another day to lynch scum (or no lynch)

2:1:1 means
mislynch- 1:1:1 which scum has to kill scum to win
scumlynch-2:1 which is a scum win

[PeregrineV]

Dv flipped BP. But nothing says blue can't have a BP also. Which affects the numbers again.

[PeregrineV]

If someone else wants to do the probabilities then they can convince me scumcolor matters more than not.

[penguin_alien]

2:1:1 should be a no-lynch. There's no good outcome for town. See the dilemma I pointed ArcAngel9 to earlier.

At 4:1:1 at night, scum has no incentive to cross-kill, which means unless we get lucky with an overlapping kill, we're right back to the 2:1:1 that takes the power out of town hands. By aiming for blue with today's lynch, we at least attempt to put ourselves in a position to win without relying on derp scum.

[Slandaar]

By lynching blue it leaves the game completely in towns hands. Without that you have to rely on scum to help kill each other which is terrible. There really is nothing else to say it is that black and white. The chance for crosskills was last night but neither scumteam helped so now we will just lynch them all starting with blue.

[penguin_alien]

That you're so determined to ignore the ramifications of lynching blue scum doesn't look good. If you actually think I'm red scum and you're town, you should be saving me for another day. Lynching town today goes to 3:2:1, in which case cross-kiling is MyLo, red killing blue with blue killing town is game over, and vice versa is the aforementioned 2:1:1.

To summarize three scenarios:

Lynching town: we lose outright or hope scum are feeling cooperative in their night actions.
Lynching red: we hope scum kill in our favor here again as above.
Lynching blue: we have a guaranteee then of getting another shot at scum at 5 person LyLo.

I haven't been in the game as long as most of you, but for what I've invested I sure don't want it to come down to crossing our fingers and hoping scum self-destruct after months of play.

P-edit: Or the short version as Slandaar said.

[ArcAngel9]

Slandaar and Penguis are pulling up these stupid posts to divert town and secure their win
Jal & Allayra - one of you should vote penguin end this madness.

[penguin_alien]

ArcAngel9, please explain what about my post is stupid. And saying yku're town or I'm scum doesn't count.

Sigh. Or saying Slandaar's scum, to cover all bases.

[ArcAngel9]

your post # 3306, Its a wanna be town post.
You're scum, and the act you're putting and pretending to be town by just tellign things we already know.. ITS a freaking FILLER POST!!!!


And how comfortabaly you are not even talkign about how you missed DV wagaon and how you dont' suspect Slaandar for not being DV wagon. and the way you think him as town with no reasons and the way he sees you as no reason.

And both of you giving these point less numbers that is not helping this game.. Do I need to say more?

[Slandaar]

AA

Why are you assuming Wind is town?

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

penguin_alien (3): ArcAngel9, wind-up, PeregrineV
Not voting (4): Allyra, Jal, penguin_alien, Slandaar

With

7

alive, it takes

4

players to lynch.

[Slandaar]

offtopic: I know its wynd but I think of him as in win-d everytime I write wind and it is really annoying so from now on I am calling wind wynd.

[ArcAngel9]

AA

Why are you assuming Wind is town?

I am not assuming anything, I see you and penguin as strong red scum, that is it.

[penguin_alien]

your post # 3306, Its a wanna be town post.

So, my post sounds townie, which must be false because I'm scum?

You're scum, and the act you're putting and pretending to be town by just tellign things we already know.. ITS a freaking FILLER POST!!!!

If you were town you're not acting like you already understand my points, rendering it not-filler from town-you perspective.

And how comfortabaly you are not even talkign about how you missed DV wagaon

I thought and continue to think wind-up is red scum. Given the way DV was under pressure from the time I replaced in, I'd have bussed like mad with all the opportunity I had to do so. Yes, that's WIFOM, but given his recurring popularity as a lynch target, it would have been foolish to hope he'd never be strung up.

and how you dont' suspect Slaandar for not being DV wagon. and the way you think him as town with no reasons and the way he sees you as no reason.

One more time: my top reason for Slandaar not being blue scum is his persuasive case on TML, and he's not red because he called out Baby Spice when red was a full team and not in danger. Ergo, not scum. He'll have to address why he's figured out I'm town.

And both of you giving these point less numbers that is not helping this game.. Do I need to say more?

Working toward an optimal lynch is not useless. So yes, you do need to say more if you want to provide a satisfactory answer.

[penguin_alien]

Blast, blew the tags. Hopefully no one's confused on what my comments are?

[Slandaar]

OK everyone keep arguing I am currently reading the thread; no hammering anyone before I finish thanks.

@AA: You say Penguin and I are scum because we were not voting DV; what if Wind is also red scum? You need to come up with a better explanation than 'you no vote DV you red'

[ArcAngel9]

I gave you the benefit of doubt slandaar but penguin is the confirmed scum, Its not just her being in DV, its more over her play style.
She came up with most silliest reasons to call me scum...

If you have read my posts, I already stated why its hard for me to see you as scum than penguin. And tell me again.. becuz i am tired of askign you this question.

Why do you think Penguis is Town? How are you confirming this?

[StrangerCoug]

Blast, blew the tags.

Fixed them for you.

[Slandaar]

OK look Penguin reads town to me thats just how it is there is no other way to explain it I can go get posts and say 'this seems town' but whats the point? because it doesn't mean anything to anyone else.

It is very unlikely Penguin is blue; very unlikely; and the chance of her being red is low because the fact is she couldn't see why TML was blue which if she were red she would have known hence the 'well its a bad claim to make as its very risky' doesn't make sense; why would she as red scum defend bluescum who was being strung up?

[wind-up]

You are zeroing in on tiny details which are themselves WIFOM, Slander.

As redscum she might have defended TML because it looks good to defend someone who is going to be a mislynch from your point of view.

[wind-up]

*Slandaar

[Slandaar]

She as red scum would know TML is blue scum because she would know they killed B&B without the use of any fancy shenanigans how do I know this? because there is no way red scum has that 5x vot a 1shot bp and ANOTHER PR when town has Doc and Vig.

NO WAY

Therefore all redscum knew TML was blue when he claimed to have protected B&B

So, from there you need to wonder what redscum would think it a good idea to defend blue scum when it will make them look like blue themselves which is currently your stance on things.

[Slandaar]

(protip: no redscum would think that a good idea; hey look at my case on AA all this adds up)

[Allyra]

Blue team killed b&b though.