Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

Bacde · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:34 pm

hey whats up guys

Bacde · Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:44 pm

@HD hello <3

@Remembrance I'm too nervous to answer your question

Bacde · Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:45 pm

In post 13, Remembrance wrote:...VOTE: Bacde

oh fuck did I already scumslip?!

Bacde · Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:46 pm

SHIT SHIT SHIT

ABORT ABORT

Bacde · Post Post #129 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:03 pm

woah, this thread grew fast

I'm glad to see that my abort freakout didn't phase anyone

from what I've read so far, Remembrence seems town and pirate mollie is super town

btw I'm town remembrence, I was just joking with you

Bacde · Post Post #131 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:03 pm

Sure, I'll bite

Vote: Wisdom

Bacde · Post Post #160 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:34 am

In post 143, SE-Asians wrote:
@Bacde : Give reason why Remembrance and Mollie are town.

Generally the first person to attack me when I claim scum is town

Its not a safe position to take (which means scum probably wont take it), and Remembrence pushed the idea in a townie way

pirate mollie is town for this post:

In post 79, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 74, SE-Asians wrote:
In post 72, pirate mollie wrote:pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

How can you so sure?

cos he told me on the scumboard before the game started that he never gets nervous ever and has never lost a game as scum and I believed him

This post made me laugh out loud and feels town as fuck: she communicates her (absolutely correct) belief of me being sarcastic with a post dripping with sarcasm--the way she communicated her point is clear, intentional, and townie

Bacde · Post Post #161 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:35 am

HD is town too

Bacde · Post Post #162 (isolation #8) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:36 am

In post 142, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 137, Wisdom wrote:^bad post

Yeah I agree.

Town

Wisdom
pirate mollie

Scum

SE-Asians
Remembrance
I am Innocent

This isn't enough reads, I need morrrrrrrrre

HD, can you explain your town read on Wisdom?

Also can you explain your scum read on SE-Asians/Remembrence?

Bacde · Post Post #164 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:40 am

^^Sorry I haven't everything if its not painfully obvious

Bacde · Post Post #165 (isolation #10) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:41 am

meh I'll go read right now its only 7 pages

Bacde · Post Post #170 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:44 am

LOL

Vote: SE-Asians

HD I love you sometimes

Bacde · Post Post #178 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:53 am

lol I was thinking the same thing

Totally stole this scum-flail outta the Kuribo book

Bacde · Post Post #185 (isolation #13) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:58 am

not sure about IAI

Remembrence should explain his slightly town read on SE-Asians

Bacde · Post Post #186 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:59 am

In post 184, Remembrance wrote:VOTE: SE Asians

Semi-Serious vote.

That was buddying.

did you miss the VT to IC claim?

Bacde · Post Post #218 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:34 am

In post 216, Wisdom wrote:There's scum in {Bacde, IaI and bork}. Definetely.
HD's push, although wrong, is townish.
mollie and Remembrance probtown.

Lincolm's VT claim was not serious. Why would anyone claim at that point? It was his way of showing his frustration regarding the argument with HD. It is not a scumslip and whoever continues to push this is scum trying to exploit the fact that Lincolm's language barrier makes him look scummier than he is.

I'm not really buying this

in the context of the HD SE-Asians discussion it looked like a slip

I've fakeclaimed dumb shit before, and its always either

1) During RVS
2) When I'm confirmed town
3) obviously a joke

and that VT claim didn't fit any of the above categories

Bacde · Post Post #225 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:58 am

In post 219, Wisdom wrote:
In post 163, Human Destroyer wrote:

Straight up lie found:

In post 116, SE-Asians wrote:Wisdom is question dodging again like always...

That's not a lie. The above was not said by Lincolm, but by thenewearth, a different head of the hydra.

How can you even tell which head is which?

I'm having a hard time believing that his VT claim WASN'T a slip considering that he said his motive was to survive since he is now claiming to be a N5 role

If what SE-Asians said was true, and he knew his role and was just fake claiming, then he would know that the SCUM KNOW that there are no VTs

This is a horrible attempt at damage control

this is an obvious fucking slip

Vote Count:

SE-Asians (L-3): Human Destroyer, I Am Innocent, Bacde, borkjerfkin
Bacde (L-6): Wisdom

Not Voting: Nachomamma8, mantisdreamz, buldermar, AngelusW, kuror0, SE-Asians, pirate mollie, Remembrance

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

Bacde · Post Post #231 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:08 am

Maybe his initial phrasing could be understood as sarcasm

but sarcasm doesn't imply innocence

His

underlying motivation

behind his potentially not serious claim can not be understood from a town perspective

There's more to look at than just his post where he claimed VT

Bacde · Post Post #232 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:13 am

Wisdom didn't scumslip

holy shit this isn't that hard

Wisdom is the type of person to read a setup in its entirety

read the setup http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... n_of_Power

Whether or not Wisdom is scum, what he said was obviously intentional and not revealing in any way

Bacde · Post Post #237 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:15 am

WHY WOULD WE LYNCH REMEM BEFORE WE LYNCH THE GUY WHO HE LOOKS BAD FOR ASSOCIATING WITH

Bacde · Post Post #250 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:28 am

In post 244, Wisdom wrote:
In post 240, Human Destroyer wrote:This is literally "Lynch SE-Asians and Remembrance in any order" now.

TAKE YOUR PICK FOLKS

Don't make me vote you.
Remembrance is town.

Don't make me threaten you

HD is town

Vote Count:

SE-Asians (L-4): I Am Innocent, Bacde, borkjerfkin
Bacde (L-6): Wisdom
Remembrance (L-6): Human Destroyer

Not Voting: Nachomamma8, mantisdreamz, buldermar, AngelusW, kuror0, SE-Asians, pirate mollie, Remembrance

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

Bacde · Post Post #251 (isolation #21) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:29 am

I don't understand how you can read the posts following the VT claim and not think it was a slip

Bacde · Post Post #259 (isolation #22) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:38 am

I'm not seeing borkyscum

I mean, he could be

but why would you bet money on it? the dude's got like 3 posts

Bacde · Post Post #261 (isolation #23) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:45 am

^^I should rectify that, he's got 3 mostly

non-alignment indicative

posts

I just read IAI could definitely see IAI as scum

pedit: Still null as balls on borky

Bacde · Post Post #268 (isolation #24) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:51 am

^^The fuck is this post?

Bacde · Post Post #427 (isolation #25) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:14 pm

In post 425, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 409, Human Destroyer wrote:Mollie you still haven't answered my question about why you think buld is town. :/

hell no am I outing town meta on buldey. he will just update his game with it and he is super sneaky as scum. I gmed a game with him in it and his team won in a flawless victory.

but with this latest flurry of posts it solidifies my town read.

eta: lol @ buldey

so your town read on buldermar is due to meta?

Bacde · Post Post #431 (isolation #26) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:23 pm

I'm honestly not satisfied with not lynching SE-Asians

I don't like how the momentum stalled

I was feeling so good about that

Lets get more votes back on SE-Asians

pedit-- @Pirate mollie, who is bc? Is it me? I honestly have no idea

Bacde · Post Post #560 (isolation #27) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:37 am

Nacho I'm you think SE-Asians didn't slip?

If I was scum I'd be bussing this shit out of that

Bacde · Post Post #561 (isolation #28) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:37 am

*guessing

Bacde · Post Post #564 (isolation #29) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:41 am

Who is a better mislynch?

Bacde · Post Post #567 (isolation #30) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:49 am

In post 565, Nachomamma8 wrote:don't know who you feel comfortable pushing.
what kind of question is that?

was trying to make you slip lol

Bacde · Post Post #568 (isolation #31) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:50 am

In post 566, Nachomamma8 wrote:and please comment on my plan, thank you!

will do

Bacde · Post Post #569 (isolation #32) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:52 am

actually your plan seems pretty sweet I fully endorse it

now tell me what you think of my plan:

lynch SE-Asians

Bacde · Post Post #571 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:02 am

actually it hasn't

#563 made it pretty clear that you don't have a read on SE-Asians

Bacde · Post Post #701 (isolation #34) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:30 am

In post 674, buldermar wrote:I have a suggestion.

Each day, the people that have action the following night outs themselves. However, they do not say if they are cop or doctor.

When there is just 1 who outs himself, that just sucks. This is what could have been avoided exactly half of the time with a strategy in which either the doctor or the cop outs himself before the other, but that strategy suffers from scum knowing who is the doc and who is the cop.

When there is 2 outing themselves, it leaves three possible permutations: {COP COP} {COP DOC} {DOC DOC}. As a strategy for this, any doctor protects the other person either always or some high percentage of the time (we can look into which number is optimal). If scum hits one of the two outed people and the these people always protect the other person when one or both is a doc, it results in:
50% failure (every time the person they don't hit is doc). In this case, the surviving person is cop about 50% of the time and doc about 50% of the time.
25% succes hitting a doc. In this case, the surviving person is a cop and will get a succesful investigation off.
25% succes hitting a cop. In this case, the surviving person is a cop and will get a succesful investigation off.

Then you just tweak the numbers so that the doctors are protecting any random person an appropriate percentage of the time. This has to be adjust according to how many later night 1-shot cop/doc's are left in the game.

I'm actually a bigger fan of this plan

on EM there's a bunch of setups where people will just claim "PR" and its really powerful

I think that this is the way to go

Bacde · Post Post #710 (isolation #35) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:14 am

Not a N1 PR

Bacde · Post Post #718 (isolation #36) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:39 am

I now accept Borkjerfkin as town

welcome to my reads

Bacde · Post Post #721 (isolation #37) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:54 am

In post 719, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 718, Bacde wrote:I now accept Borkjerfkin as town

welcome to my reads

yeah

what do you think of nacho

I'm trying not to scumread him just cuz he did it to me, gotta be objective

his promoting plans for having our PRs out before their nights is def protown motivated though

he shouldn't be lynched either way today since he claimed n1 PR though

Bacde · Post Post #722 (isolation #38) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:00 am

actually, I don't think its likely that scum-nacho would suggest us to coordinate our night actions, considering that he just lost a diffusion of power setup as scum due to auto-win

Plus nacho as scum is totally willing to play antitown if it will give him an edge--once when I was scum with him he completely ignored my blatant scumtells and railroaded our team to victory

he can be town

Bacde · Post Post #742 (isolation #39) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:56 am

I'm hopping on the "I don't like Remembrance's" reads wagon to say that I don't see what is "not relaxed" about this post:

In post 16, Bacde wrote:SHIT SHIT SHIT

ABORT ABORT

Bacde · Post Post #834 (isolation #40) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:00 am

Meh, I haven't been having too much fun in this game which is probably why there seems to be an air of confusion about my slot

tbh I feel like this was a bait-and-switch (like borky said earlier), I was done w/ diffusion of power after the last game

I could be more complainy but I'll just do my part

@Mod, requesting replacement

Here's my reads before I go

Town

Bacde
Remembrance
pirate mollie
borkjerfkin
Human Destroyer

Leaning Town

Wisdom
kuror0
Nachomamma8
buldermar

Leaning Scum

mantisdreamz

Scum

SE-Asians
IAI

I don't remember seeing AngelusW post so thats a null

GL everyone

Bacde · Post Post #838 (isolation #41) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:09 am

how I feel is not their fault

I blame majiffy

Bacde · Post Post #840 (isolation #42) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:11 am

In post 837, Wisdom wrote:
In post 834, Bacde wrote:Leaning Scum
mantisdreamz

Wondering how he got this read.

he seemed quick and eager to think I was scum thats about it