Micro 153: Sherlock Holmes Mafia (Game Over)

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/conforming

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oh-hohohohoh!!!!

Vote: Miss M

Vengeance will be mine!!!!!!!


although that will have to be for later, because:

Unvote:



Vote: Seanald

i cannot help it.....

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hahaha!! a reprimand from Holmesies...

i think i'm going to enjoy this game...

Seanaldo, get in here so we can lynch you!

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OH CRAP!

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Unvote:

(Although in my heart of hearts, i am still secretly voting for you, Seanald)

VOTE: Blue Yoshi

It's not like we have a forensics expert.

heh...rolefish much?

Well we already know there's 2 mafia

Also since there's only 2 mafia (according to the first post) one or both of them probably has some sort of special role.

This is the second time that you've stated there are 2 scum (#6 and #28)
saying it once was enough..and tbh, considering the size of the game it would most likely have 2 scum anyway.. but what i really don't like is that your wording seems a little defensive... you are already explaining how you know that there are 2 scum ...as if you are worried about drawing attention to yourself about knowing...
what you are doing is reiterating (twice, even) what was stated in the opening write-up...so you can appear to be helpful, when really all you are doing is telling us what we already know...

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UNVOTE:

for now...
@Syr -
you do realize that you put Blue Yoshi @ L-1, right?
Would have been nice of you to announce that so we don't get an accidental speedlynch on page 2 before we can gain anything useful from this day...

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@zoo: What do you think of people mostly ignoring your "rolefishing" point (29)?

BluYosh's response to my post made sense...as he said he was responding to MOD.. so I’ll leave it alone for now…I’m assuming others saw it that way as well…I am also starting to like BY’s posts btw…

I will say that I did not like Syr’s unvote at all…I had already unvoted on BY bringing him back to L-2 so there should have been no reason for Syr to unvote because of a worried quick-lynch, and his response seems a little too much…he already said he thought he put BY at L-2, so why not just acknowledge the "oops" and leave him there? I have a feeling he knew he was quietly putting BY at L-1 and when he was called on it, he over-reacted…this also makes me feel a little better about BY…

Vote: Syryana

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also...

@MOD: i will be taking my normal V/LA for the weekend, please...

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liking you less now...
but seriously, this flash wagon thing is ridiculous. the only vote on Syr that makes a some sense is Mollie's one, and even then I don't agree with it.

really? you do realize you still owe me for that 1V1 that you screwed me on...
tell me what you think about this then:
look at Syr's unvote...he says he thought he was bringing BlueYosh to L-2...he quoted my post where i stated that Yosh went to L-1 and that also included my Unvote...he had to have seen my unvote...so if he was comfortable supposedly putting Yosh at L-2 like he said he was, then why bother with the Holy Crap Unvote!
He even stated that he still thought Yosh was suspect...so again, why the unvote? It seems fake...


PEDIT: @Syr , in the context of the way it was done, yeh..it kinda does...
and no, but i'm assuming that because of the question this means you over-react a lot?
do you do that as both scum and town?

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busy day today... checking in on phone...
@pala - yes this is part for the course in regards to Seanald... he's always anti town and frustrating...


I'll update my reads tomorrow when I can get to a computer

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@Seanald – quit being a deliberate ass…it’s almost as if you are trying to hard at it this game…which means you are creeping over to the scum side of my wall…I’d appreciate it if you would contribute…

you also don't call out my blantant defense of Syr... I was kinda expecting someone to pick it up :/

Not sure what your purpose here is? Care to explain?
I also really don’t like the fact that you second Mollie’s “Hey let’s vote Pala” and use GM’s posting as ammo to try and start and fuel a wagon, yet you still avoid voting…and yes, I do realize that you don’t throw votes around nilly willy, but considering you’re giving your stamp of approval on it and also trying to tie GM into the mix to help justify it, all the while keeping your hands clean, makes me worry about you.
Also, what exactly about Pala’s 117 “especially” gave you bad scum vibes?

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yeh..actually after re-reading...

i can easily see a Syr/Ms M scum team...

Ms M flip flop on Syr is noted…she first said that she was worried that the BY wagon was scum-driven and declares Syr the shiftiest on the wagon..but as soon as votes get put onto him she immdeiately tries to defend him..and poorly, might I add…her #99 says she thought he was town for his over-reaction in another game, yet she was tricked and got mad. So why would his over-reaction in this game make him seem town to her now? I also found it funny that she said that only Mollie’s vote and reasoning on Syr was legit (even though she didn’t agree with it ) and tried to dismiss my vote as a generic sheep.
Also, what I found very shady was the way she tried to subtly deflect Syr’s wagon and fuel a counter on Pala based off of Mollie’s comment, coupled with trying to justify it by associating GM into it…and all of that without committing a vote to it herself.

Syr is still scummy….and with him being the top wagon, and deadline approaching, I can see him make the move to distance himself and bus hard on Ms M to throw suspicion away from her when he flips scum. This makes sense, especially if he is worried about MS M getting tied to him because of her awkward defense of him. On this page alone, the back and forth between Ms M and Syr seems forced..

Ms M’s main reasoning for town-Syr is that the pressure on him was misplaced and she can’t find a suitable partner for him…but that’s probably because it is her…

I still think we should lynch Syr today...and if he does flip scum, then i think Ms M would deserve some extra attention...

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Not to mention your whole point about Marangal and me being partners is a load of crock, since no sane scum would white knight his partner for the better part of the day.

yeh...WIFOM at it's best...

This gives you a bonafide reason not to investigate Marangal, because when I flip town you'll say "oh, looks like Ms M was right, oops, time to investigate someone else!", giving you an ironclad reason to slap a townread onto your partner. It also has the added benefit of making you look town if Marangal gets lynched for her WKing anyways, since you as scum do not have a reason to bus her at this point. No matter how it turns out, you come out smelling like a rose.

if you "somehow" flip town, it doesn't clear her in the slightest, and i didn't say it would..so i don't see what kind of "bonafide" reason i would have to call her obvtown... but oops if i pull a bus now and get her lynched tomorrow i've fooled everyone?
lol..wow..damed if i do...damned if i don't...

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and what are you talking about? I never got tricked by Syr, the only other game I had with him I was Pretty damn certain that he was scum and pushed (or tried to) a case on him but got lynched anyway. he was town in that game, I never played with Syr scum so I don't have a clue to what you are talking about

so then what did this mean:

Syr over-reacts a shit load as town. he over-reacted in a noobie game

and I thought he was town, that noobie game is why I hate him so much

. I'm saying this with <3 Syr

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huh.... that was odd...

Unvote

for now while I try and figure this shit out

@good morning why didn't you ask for a claim before your " hammer"?

also... someone has a dead vote or someone killed a vote?

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also ftr, I think GM is town..

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@mod, please clarify that the vote count above was correct before my unvote...
Syr's wagon shows 4 people...3 votes.

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@Ms M 's #179 - thinking it was something else actually...

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@Ms M 's #179 - thinking it was something else actually...

What?

Syr, you should know that town are just as likely as scum to quick hammer :/

Yes, but that scum meta remark was a lame justification for a quickhammer. Not to mention a wrong one.

actually I want GM to respond to my 177 before I comment on this... but I promuse ill come back to this

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sorry guys, work has been kicking my ass today and i haven't had time to post...

basically what I was stating yesterday was that GM was town for her fake hammer…I seriously doubt that she “forgot” her vote was on Syr…and most fake hammers are from town anyway trying to get scum to slip up, although they rarely work and are hard to pull off smoothly…I wanted her to verify that that’s what it was first, rather than give her an excuse she can use in case it wasn’t…

Meanwhile Syr, you are still pretty scummy…and I can’t really say that your #173 is genuine, because you knew GM was already voting you when she hammered (based off of your#176) so you’d have known that the lynch wouldn’t have gone through...

although I will say lynching a possible PR on day 1 sucks, and seeing as I’m not liking Ms M much either, I might be good with a rope twining around her neck while I try to decide on you.

Vote: Ms M

Also…

@ MOD: I will be V/LA for the weekend as per my usual

I’ll try to sign in on phone at a coffee shop or something if I can, but don’t expect much…(Got VIP passes for a meet n greet at the Lucha Libre match this weekend and we get free lucha libra masks too…should be hilarious  )

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lol Seanald...really, that's your contribution?
although I can't really say I'm surprised...

also, Syr is flailing.... subjective again? everything is subjective... we have to try and put the pieces together... that's the whole frickin point of this game...

also try reading my posts again...
I said its not best to lynch a possible PR on day 1...
considering I have two strong candidates for scum, and with your soft PR claim, id prefer to maybe give you the benefit of the doubt and take the safer route...
buf if you keep begging to be the lynch, then I will happily oblige...
right now I really don't care which of the two we lynch...Syr or Ms M , because they are most likely both Scum..

also...Syr, full claim please..

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lol Ms M...
that post right there is scummy as hell, your constant changing your wording of your previous posts to suit your needs Is scummy...
your attack on Pala using GM as a springboard was scummy.. read my ISO, you'll seer more reasons...I can't quote right now cause I'm on my phone but rest assured its not all associative...

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yes I thought it was Fake hammer... GM's hammer vote was off... that's why I asked the question to GM in my 177
also read my 182 closely..I was saying that it was nt a quick hammer but instead a fake hammer..
That's also why I said I would come back and explain later.. just in case I was wrong, I didn't want to give GM the excuse if that wasn't what it was...

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also... what are you saying, Ms M?
what is the case?

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if you are referring to your 236, then you seriously have got to be kidding...
also you weren't picking on me in pokemon...I called you out, remember?

also, that post in the front of the thread about how you owe me wad a joke and you know it...

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people should actually do a quick read of that game...id link it but I'm on my phone...

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lolwut? you just declared sword/ pala scum team 3 posts up in all caps and now you don't know about me?

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ok leaving the coffee shop so ill have to continue this later..
everyone here really should read that game though..ill link it when I can get to a computer..

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lol... aree we in the twilight zone or some shit?
sad town ..Mollie your vote is disappointingly bad....
anyway I won't be back till prob Monday so if I'm lynched by then:

if we do have a vig I promise your shot would be well worth it to find its way over toSeanald...

Syr is scum...
MsM is most likely scum..
mollie shouldn't be allowed to skate by in the background with minimal input..
TNE also needs to step it up..
Zack could very well be lurking scum...
only real town read I have is GM....
im also liking BY for town now also....

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also...

Unvote:

Vote : Syr

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Hi Rach, good to see you again
Feel free to jump in and give us your rundown of things, as your pred was not very user-friendly with his Lurk-mode status..


Meanwhile we have about 24 hrs to deadline so i suggest we start talking about what we are going to do..

@TNE - your vote on BluYosh is noted, however he is not going to be the lynch today as no one is going to back you at this time...i would suggest you put it where it will do some good...

So far the leading wagons today are myself and Syr...

My Preferences:
Lynch Syr..
i also wouldn't mind a Ms M lynch, but i don't have think i have enough support for that either...
Worst case, we can PL Seanald, but that would seem like a waste as we won't get any real info from his lynch...

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although if we still want to try lynching sword, im still all for that, hes a dangerous mutha

oh, you

you do realize every game we've played together in, i've been town...(you even stated that fact)
so why would you say i'm dangerous then? Unless you are still upset i had your team nailed on D1 in WoW..
although town still lost that game


@Ms M - what's your case on Pala/TNE ...just bullet point it for me...is it mainly TNE's posting?

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GM, now would probably be a good time to change your vote...

@Ms M - so you can't bullet point your case? you forgot why Pala was scummy?
Well let’s look, shall we?
You stated that he gave you weird vibes in his 117.
Then, when Pirate Mollie said he’s “tweaking her scumdar for some reason”
You seconded that by using GM’s post about weird vibes as ammo and justification…

117 bothers me because of how it's presented. what he questions and what he comments on all seems artificial, and his self-awareness seems to be a tad bit over the top in that post

^I find this amusing, because I didn’t see Syr jump in to demand that the above post was “Subjective”

While Pala is my top suspect, I want to see more from him. I want more evidence to ensure that my read on him is the correct one, I will place my vote on him eventually, especially if he does more things that I find suspicious

So..your case is that his 117 gave you weird vibes..and his 132
His #117 where he FoS’s Syr
And his #132:

Thanks for the answer, sword. Seanald is null then for the moment.
I would also like to hear what zach's reasoning is for voting Ms M

Is that right?

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yes, i am pushing for a Syr lynch...or Mollie for that matter...
i agree that a PL lynch on Seanald is non-cunductive in getting any real info out of VC analysis, that's why i'd prefer not to..
preferably he could eat a bullet.

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sorry...EBWOP
that mollie shoukd be MsM in the "for that matte
r"

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@Rach or BluYosh , can you please hammer Syr?
or shit, we can all jump over to Ms M ,as a no lynch is crap....

Rach's vote is currently on Ms M. (1)
@GM - pref is still Ms M? (2)
@PM - will you move it back? (3)
@Syr, you stated that you didn't like her WK'ing..you still willing to bus your bud? - (4)
@SoO i will vote MsM (5 and lynch)

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look who's on the TNE wagon...
I also don't have a scum read on him...

so....yeh...

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@Ms M - i didn't say TNE was town...i said i didn't have a scum read on him...
i also stated that he needs to start putting a little more effort into this game....

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lol you guys are hilsrious...
no worries Im sure Seanald will be happy to hammer me...
anyhoo..ive already given my reads..
on my phone so I cant link, but....yeh

town is in some serious need iof help...

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actually no I do not..
clisest I have is a cult leader in a micro...where I kicked ass and won...
cant link it yhough cause im ob my phobe..look up my recent topics...

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Fun fact: Swords has been at L-1 twice, but has not claimed.

fun fact : neither have you... and your half ass PR claim wasnt a claim... scum does that when they are afraid to get lynched... you didn't claim a specific PR because you were afraid of a counter claim.. so you hint that you have one to scare people off of you... and I still say you KNEW you weren't lynched the first time based by your posting...

also Ms M if you are somehow town, then your 373 is bad bad bad and you should know why...

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Yay~~

I got half the team down D1, though I apologize to Omens for thinking that he was scum this game XD

heheh...no hard feelings...although i have to say that my speed-lynch did suck.
I did feel bad for pushing Syryana so hard...so yeh...
Great game everyone!
Thanks for modding Jason 