Micro 151: Mafia in New-Newbie Land (Game over!)

[mothrax]

Can't believe I'm saying this but... What bork said.

[Majiffy]

Here's what Majiffy did;

1) Settled for a Wisdom lynch
2) Saw his primary suspect's replacement came in and continued to be scummy
3) Attempted for a last-minute wagon on primary suspect
4) Hammered anti-town/troll player

Let's not mince words, now, or attempt to be revisionist.

[Majiffy]

[Jake from State Farm]

What's scummy about vote hopping in and of itself? Nothing

but here's what Majiffy did:

1) Assured Wisdom was flipping scum
2) Jumped off his wagon less than a day before deadline
3) Quickhammered the counterwagon to that wagon
4) Was not phased at all that Xeg pretty much confirmed he's town. This does not read like a troll.

so yeah. that's a little more than "vote hopping"

Well when you put it that way, yeah that's bad

[borkjerfkin]

nothing 590-750ish looks like you're settling.

that's why I can't accept the Xeg hammer.

[borkjerfkin]

Can't believe I'm saying this but... What bork said.

That's really nice of you. Thanks for that.

[chkflip]

I enjoy that he never went back to the posts of his that I mentioned seeing as how, y'know, he couldn't refute how "sure" he was of Wiscum.

bork gets it.

[Majiffy]

nothing 590-750ish looks like you're settling.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

VOTE: Wisdom

Sorry Jiffy.

Shrug.

If I vote Wisdom, will you help me lynch Pala tomorrow?

Eh.

VOTE: Wisdom

I'm gonna buttrape you in the post game if Pala is scum and Wisdom is town.

Usually helps to go back to where the vote was placed if you're going to make an argument about my intentions

[Majiffy]

I enjoy that he never went back to the posts of his that I mentioned seeing as how, y'know, he couldn't refute how "sure" he was of Wiscum.

bork gets it.

Wisdom was and still is acting incredibly scummy. That doesn't mean that your slot is not still my preferred lynch.

[Majiffy]

Yep that's what I thought.

[chkflip]

[chkflip]

Give the conversation more than "you're scum" and I'll take you seriously.

K? K.

[Majiffy]

You'll get a comprehensive case on your slot tomorrow. Which is kind of silly, seeing as how everything is already in my ISO, and I've already given more than "you're scum". But uh... cute misrep.

I like how you backed off all your "points" you were so cocky to point out earlier, when I proved them wrong.

[chkflip]

LOL'd. What did you refute? That I misused the term "flip flop"? Cool story, bro.

You still haven't gone back and realized that you were pretty solid on the Wiscum wagon in the three aforementioned posts.

Since I've been here, however, you've said

NOTHING

about how I have personally been scummy that's actually, y'know, scummy by definition and not "oh well I've seen scum do that so it's a scumtell in my book." Who's cocky?

Hi pot, I'm kettle. Pleasure to meet you.

[chkflip]

Spoiler: allofus

chkflip, your role PM says scum. Discuss.

NULL - bork, Wisdom, Jake

MOST LIKELY SCUM - Wisdom, bork, Jake

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Jiff, I assume you're saying I'm Wisdom's scum partner? And regardless of Wisdom's flip, I'm scum and should be lynched tomorrow, right?

If you keep the behavior of the above up, yeah. What the fuck is that, you have 3 players in 2 sections that are clearly contradictory.

Calling the reads "most likely scum" is different from "scummiest by POE". If you'd like me to get into the semantics of why, I can, but I don't think it's a fruitful discussion.

* Particularly when the section just above has them as "null"

A bit, still don't like it.

Read it with sarcasm. Hence the questioning on the snippiness.

You know what, fuck you.
VOTE: chkflip/vote]

Oh right you're in Pala's slot.

Wow, this makes even more sense.

Not wanting communication between two players?

Do I really have to spell this out to you?

Well fuck 'em. Pala was a scumbutt and I'm sniffing nothing but antitown from him.

Wisdom was a mediocre vote compared to my Pala read. Given Chkflips recent scum behavior, I really think he's the better play here.

That's basically all posts of yours regarding me. I snipped the few that were basically you repeating yourself.

You've stated NOTHING aside from "You're scum, discuss" "Why is the null and scum the same" "Hey lets play English semantics" "I don't like the way you post" "I can't take sarcasm well."

None of these are scum tells. None of them. Like, zero. The "You don't want us to talk?" thing was completely out of your ass, too, btw. Nowhere did I state or insinuate that I didn't want you and bork to communicate. I simply pointed out how inane and worthless that particular conversation was and you didn't like my attitude (I guess?), which isn't indicative of alignment.

Try again later.

P.S.

I'm completely ok with stringing up Mothrax next.

p-edit: Something other than pathetic "no u" omgus, maybe. Effort, I guess? Something... town motivated, perhaps?

Smells like you're setting up lynches, bro. You've got three of us as scum and Xeg was, by your account, "worthless anyway." Yeah, you're

totally

not scum.

Right.

Okay.

[Quilford]

"We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths."
― Walt Disney

>>>

Xegarus

(5) elvis_knits, mothrax, Wisdom, Xegarus, Majiffy

<<<

Wisdom

(3) Jake from State Farm, borkjerfkin

Majiffy

(1) chkflip

Not Voting (1) Mac

###

At 5 votes, a lynch has been achieved.

Mod scene incoming...

[/area]

[Quilford]

“The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew.”
― Abraham Lincoln

>>>

Xegarus,

Vanilla Townie

, lynched Day 1!

<<<

It is now Night 1.

Night ends in (expired on 2013-04-21 08:39:08).

[Quilford]

This'll be up within the next ~12 hours, hopefully.

[Quilford]

“The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew.”
― Abraham Lincoln

>>>

chkflip,

Town Jailkeeper

, killed Night 1!

<<<

It is now Day 2.

7 players remain.

[Quilford]

"With the new day comes new strength and new thoughts."
― Eleanor Roosevelt

Not Voting (7) Mac, borkjerfkin, Majiffy, Wisdom, Jake from State Farm, mothrax, elvis_knits

###

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2013-05-05 21:36:07).

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: wisdom

now can people please listen to me.

[elvis_knits]

Um...

But Majiffy.

So this is how my thought process went:

1)End of day yesterday was pretty crazy. Majiffy seemed to jump on the hammer all the sudden, seemed unpredictable.
2)Hey I think I noticed Majiffy trying to direct a cop near the end of yesterday. And directing power roles is you know, the scummeh.

Cop on Pala if he exists please so we can quicklynch him tomorrow when he shows scum, thanks.

3)Let's ISO Majiffy.
4)Oh look Majiffy seems to have suspected everybody in the game at one point or another, and changed his mind a few times on everybody. Seems like a ton of shitty unsupported reads that he changes whenever he fucking wants. I'm not gonna bother quoting this but i can make this case if needed.
5)Insistence on voting Pala, calling Pala's towntell a scumtell. DURRRR.
6) Noticed these two posts regarding mothrax's innocence of the setup and town/scum ratio:

That isn't a hard thing to fake as town. You'll have to come with something a bit stronger than that.

*as scum

Does this not look like Majiffy slipped that he knows Mothrax is town? Does this not look like majiffy is arguing that mothrax is not necessarily town while at the same time slipping and calling him town? And who would try to argue that somebody they think is town is actually scum? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Jake from State Farm]

ive made similar typos as town so that's really null.

with dueling wagons, it makes me think wisdom is basically confirmed scum

[borkjerfkin]

@elvis: I don't like Majiffy, but no that is not a scumslip; I don't put much stock in those freudian tells.

And no, I'm not interested in a case. This was talked to death in twilight yesterday while you didn't care about anything but Xeg.

[borkjerfkin]

Don't want to lynch {Mothrax, Jake} today unless something fucking crazy happens. Mac would be here but his contribution toward the end of the day (nothing but unvoting Wisdom and blowing town) did not help my read on him.

elvis is pretty null for me; insufficient interaction with everyone in the game, but also she's ignoring pretty much everything I throw at her. Her points on Majiffy are valid but everyone else has already made them so *shrug*

Wisdom I've talked about at great length and not much has really changed there for me.

Majiffy is bad for how he handled the end of the day; his read on Wisdom seemed to change to fit his needs. Only thing I should add is that at times it seemed like he was not reading the game (confusion on how Wisdom wagon even started), which is probably a teeny towntell.

There is almost assuredly scum in {Wisdom/Majiffy}, and they're not unviable partners either considering Majiffy's hammer on the counterwagon.