NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

mastin2 · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:27 pm

<<< As the gathered mob continues their petty squabbling, they note that one player,

Nero Cain

, is apparently a mute.

Though Nero has written down his accusation against

Oversoul

, he has yet to speak a word, not even to confirm his prescence.

Feeling that he might be onto something,

fuzzybutternut

throws his vote to support Nero's silent campaign against the arrogant god claiming to hold sensitive information about the streets.

In the midst of this debate, the town notices that someone has moved into roflcopter's house and inherited all of his stuff, a man going by the name of

Bacde.

>>>

Seventh Votecount

:

(

AKA, the "I can botch the timeline for flavor purposes all I like!" votecount

)

Oversoul - 5 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Nero Cain, Bulbazak, fuzzybutternut)

BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Om the Destroyer, Cephrir)

Red Ryu - 1 (Oversoul)
Cephrir - 1 (BeautyAndTheBeast)

Not Voting - 15 (Mac, DLG, roflcopter, EddieFenix, Thor665, Red Ryu, Syryana, Desperado, Baby Spice, Slandaar, Seanald, ActionDan, Rondar, Amethyst Kitty, ArcAngel9)

With

24

players alive, it's

13

to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

mastin2, the moderator, is recovering from a broken-laptop-induced V/LA.
Searching for a roflcopter replacement.

Spoiler: changes from last votecount

Spoiler: Player Vote History

Spoiler: Voting History

ISO · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:30 pm

I like how you're saying HD is strawmanning when he's arguing with the only part of your reads that you've actually posted. Turns out it's hard to discuss arguments that don't exist.

I was stating a fact. Scumreads require reasons, because you need reasons to get anyone else to believe you, and the point of scumreads is to get them lynched. That's just how it works. Otherwise you're about as useful to the town as Glenn Beck would be.

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:31 pm

Maybe you should read my post why I explained why I don't want to out all of my reads.

Fact about

whom

? Yourself, or HD? Stop deflecting.

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:36 pm

In post 374, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 371, Om the Destroyer wrote:Oh yes I'm totally strawmanning something you
fucking said yourself
:
In post 322, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:It's largely based on whether or not people agree with me, yes.
So tell me, where's the strawman?
You made the statement that all my reads were based off that. This is untrue and a strawman, as that statement is only about two reads.

Inconsistency ho!
Firstly, leaving out the word mostly is not a strawman of any sort and saying so is pretty contrived, so you can kindly shut the fuck up.
Secondly, one post says your reads are largely based on whether people agree with you or not, but now only 2 are based on that concept.
Which is it?

In post 374, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 371, Om the Destroyer wrote: And in a way, it
is
what you're doing; you're saying "Oh people that agree with me are more town than people that don't" based on...absolutely nothing.
Also untrue. Town motivation -> Town thinking -> Town actions.
If the actions and the thoughts are the same, there's a good chance the motivations are the same.

Scummy town are called scummy town for this reason.
It's also why I hate the concept. It's basically incorrect; people don't really play mafia the same way as everyone else, so objective tells that "apply to everyone"...don't.

In post 374, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 372, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 368, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Oh the last two posts were you, HD?

Ok yeah you're pretty much confscum then.
And yet,
you aren't voting me.
I only have one vote.

So...you're voteparking on someone that isn't the person you've called "confirmed scum"...why?
It isn't like you're doing much in the "convincing people to sheep you" department anyway.

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:37 pm

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:37 pm

In post 378, Om the Destroyer wrote:"confirmed scum"...why?

Because you're not confirmed scum. That was rhetoric.

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:38 pm

Om, Jiffy/Mollie

Quit tunneling.

Shit.

I'm pretty sure you're both town. So stop.

mastin2 · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:38 pm

<<< To save space, I put the flavor

in the votecount

; Bacde replaces roflcopter effective as soon as he posts.

Also, it's getting kinda late, and I'm still a way's drive from home. In other words, I'm departing for the night and will leave you in the hands of my co-mod AngryPidgeon until tomorrow (Tuesday) morning. >>>

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:40 pm

Throw Ceph in there too.
Hard to read wall after wall.

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:40 pm

In post 380, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 378, Om the Destroyer wrote:"confirmed scum"...why?
Because you're not confirmed scum. That was rhetoric.

Majiffy can answer for himself, Nacho.
That still doesn't explain his failure to push his apparently preferred Ceph wagon in any sort of productive way so yeah.

~

Bacde · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:41 pm

WHATS UP CHOOBIES BACDE IN DA HOUSE

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:42 pm

In post 381, fuzzybutternut wrote:Om, Jiffy/Mollie

Quit tunneling.

Shit.

I'm pretty sure you're both town. So stop.

If someone could remind me of this quote if B&B flips scum, 'twould be appreciated.

~

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:42 pm

In post 382, mastin2 wrote:leave you in the hands of my co-mod AngryPidgeon

Spoiler:

Bacde · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:42 pm

VOTE: nachomamma8

classic.

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:42 pm

In post 385, Bacde wrote:WHATS UP CHOOBIES BACDE IN DA HOUSE

Sheep me.

~

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:42 pm

In post 385, Bacde wrote:WHATS UP CHOOBIES BACDE IN DA HOUSE

Oh god, it's the tomato.

Bacde · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:43 pm

om are you scum?

Bacde · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:43 pm

In post 390, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 385, Bacde wrote:WHATS UP CHOOBIES BACDE IN DA HOUSE

Oh god, it's the tomato.

you scared I'm gonna catch you yet again?

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:44 pm

You always catch me, Bacde. Doesn't matter what alignment I am.

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:44 pm

In post 391, Bacde wrote:om are you scum?

No I'm town.

Now vote B&B.

~

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:45 pm

In post 378, Om the Destroyer wrote: Inconsistency ho!
Firstly, leaving out the word mostly is not a strawman of any sort and saying so is pretty contrived, so you can kindly shut the fuck up.
Secondly, one post says your reads are largely based on whether people agree with you or not, but now only 2 are based on that concept.
Which is it?

1) If mostly, then your argument holds no water. Argument only stands if only/all, not mostly.
2) Follow the quotes. It was only

ever

about only two reads. Slandaar and AA9.

In post 378, Om the Destroyer wrote:Scummy town are called scummy town for this reason.

Because people suck at this game?

In post 378, Om the Destroyer wrote: So...you're voteparking on someone that isn't the person you've called "confirmed scum"...why?
It isn't like you're doing much in the "convincing people to sheep you" department anyway.

Because the other one is just as scummy as you are, if not moreso.

I'll get around to it eventually. The game only just started. Hell, I haven't even been home since the game started.

In post 385, Bacde wrote:WHATS UP CHOOBIES BACDE IN DA HOUSE

Vote Cephrir.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:47 pm

In post 384, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 380, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 378, Om the Destroyer wrote:"confirmed scum"...why?
Because you're not confirmed scum. That was rhetoric.
Majiffy can answer for himself, Nacho.
That still doesn't explain his failure to push his apparently preferred Ceph wagon in any sort of productive way so yeah.

~

His playstyle does though!

In post 388, Bacde wrote:VOTE: nachomamma8

classic.

hey there
don't vote B&B please

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:49 pm

bah i have to sleep

ill get back to this tomorrow

~

ISO · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:51 pm

Ceph wrote:
In post 374, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 373, Cephrir wrote: I understand (albeit disagree) if you don't want to give all the reasons for your townreads, but you can't call someone 'confscum' without backing it up...
Are you chainsawing HD now, or are you trying to defend yourself limp-wristedly here?
I was stating a fact. Scumreads require reasons, because you need reasons to get anyone else to believe you, and the point of scumreads is to get them lynched. That's just how it works. Otherwise you're about as useful to the town as Glenn Beck would be.

Contextualized that for ya.

In other news I am apparently scummier than 'confscum'.

BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 378, Om the Destroyer wrote: Inconsistency ho!
Firstly, leaving out the word mostly is not a strawman of any sort and saying so is pretty contrived, so you can kindly shut the fuck up.
Secondly, one post says your reads are largely based on whether people agree with you or not, but now only 2 are based on that concept.
Which is it?
1) If mostly, then your argument holds no water. Argument only stands if only/all, not mostly.
2) Follow the quotes. It was only
ever
about only two reads. Slandaar and AA9.

Really? You're already desperate enough to resort to semantics? You realize it's still not okay if all but one of your reads are based on agreeing with you, or actually if any of them are, right?

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Mon May 06, 2013 2:55 pm

In post 398, Cephrir wrote:
Ceph wrote:
In post 374, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 373, Cephrir wrote: I understand (albeit disagree) if you don't want to give all the reasons for your townreads, but you can't call someone 'confscum' without backing it up...
Are you chainsawing HD now, or are you trying to defend yourself limp-wristedly here?
I was stating a fact. Scumreads require reasons, because you need reasons to get anyone else to believe you, and the point of scumreads is to get them lynched. That's just how it works. Otherwise you're about as useful to the town as Glenn Beck would be.
Contextualized that for ya.

In other news I am apparently scummier than 'confscum'.

I can read, thanks. Keep dodging the question, scumbutt.

Lynch this please.

In post 398, Cephrir wrote: Really? You're already desperate enough to resort to semantics? You realize it's still not okay if all but one of your reads are based on agreeing with you, or actually if any of them are, right?

#Lolcaughtscumarguments