Open 510: DUCK DUCK GOOSE- SCUM WIN!!

[Treble]

do your research if you want

VOTE: NotMara mad much

[Treble]

Sound of GIF sucks. UNVOTE: so we can VOTE: SoS

[Treble]

sakura whooonow

i am excited for this game, lets have fun with it

[Treble]

go team

[Treble]

wow you guys suddenly got serious. i should be allowed to express my support for my team in a backseat manner! no fun

[Treble]

yes let's deflect everything to us now

Sakura is parroting a lot of what NotMara is saying

Generic is still being overly defensive over nothing

and I'm only following the rules- the rule to have fun!!

it's hard to make good points against people when we had widespread activity page 1 during the fun rvs part but now that things are getting serious I only see a few people' posting. Regardless of how town or scum I think they are, kudos to them for sticking around, at least.

it'll be much more fun to play if everyone posts again I have to go now, but I hope my other head can help you out too!

but before I leave I would like to take the time to dedicate my

vote (to) Sakura Hana

. Let us see what my other head does about this when it wakes up...

[Treble]

Hello! I am the head #2 of Treble!

I know quite a bit of the players here! Sakura vs Generic will be an interesting fight to watch!

<3 TiP

And I have got to say... Generic is overly defensive. I am in an ongoing game w/ him, but his behaviour certainly is different; is all I can say.

VOTE: Generic

Why are you being overly defensive?


This post is worth commenting.

But hana you have tip as null

when his entire contribution to the game has been a doc claim, an introduction, drum noise, congratulating notmara on a town tell from him, calling defender a wizard, returning to notmara with displeasure at being considered null when he displayed a 'towntell', despair at 'not being a doc', pissing about with the mod and then pointing out you have half the games posts.

Is it very surprising to have a null tell on a fluff-poster only at 6 pages in the game?

So that's disengagement with any other player in the game during RVS, self image awareness when his town tell doesn't make him a town read to someone, more disengagement with all ongoing events outside RVS, then an irrelevant point about the game.

And that's a null read to you over treble and myself?

Finding me a scumread is interesting, as my other head only posted 4 or 5 times. Generic posted >20 times in long posts so getting a read on him isn't too far-fetched, though.

unvote, vote the Irish pope

Time to get involved tip.

[Treble]

For context:

I'd say both TIP and Treble seem to be acting fluffy despite RVS ending, and Treble called me out when i accused him of it...
I hope this is just a coincidence but now my FoS is on both for the time being.
P-edit: quite an interesting move, so TIP's fluffyness is scummier than my supposedly caring of your vote on me?

I

really

don't like this post, how can you compare TiP to me when he has almost double or triple of my posts? And you are FoSing me because what... my head voted for you? Yeah it definitely got your attention all right.

I'd like to answer that question; TiP's fluffyness may or may not be scummier than Generic's reaction; but my "fluffiness" definitely is not.

Your selective reading is suspicious, Sakura.

[Treble]

and finally,

I'd like for everybody to produce their reads on Sakura + Generic, with at least 2 lines of reasoning.

They've posted the most in the game and it should be relatively easy to read them as-is.

I'd said my piece.


-Head 2

[Treble]

So I'm being voted for for over defensiveness now? Two people attacking me with points I have disputed. Defender I think it was said I was unsuccessful in defending them, can I ask them which were the valid points?

The self awareness of image coupled with no consideration for image by scattered voting?

Or was it not analysing 4 people claiming a role that's not in the game?

And I'm fighting my corner against three people, because notmara presented the weak case, and hana and voodoo lady were opportunistically trying to push on it. Neither brought anything extra to the table.


As for scum hunting, I am voting tip, was voting hana and both had reasons attached that were my own. Hana has been doing more scum hunting by riding notmaras coat tails, changing her opinion of tip based on defenders comments, and called treble scummy for fluffiness.

Wow, scumhunting here is different to what I'm used to, I put independent thought into mine, guess I shouldn't other.

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

I haven't got a chance of defending myself because a few of you are setting boundaries to stop me. Can't fight my corner cos I'm being over defensive, the only thing people are apparently voting for me on. When should I defend myself then? I had three votes on me, that's now 4 (possibly 5 when notmara jumps back on).

Do very on with lynching me, at least there will be my wagon to analyse day 2 and those who boxed me in so I can't even defend myself.

Good luck.

The first section reads strong town, the second section reads strong scum.

Ugh.


#Head 2



@Mutley

You're not funny. TiP is much more experienced than you, you need to learn from him.

[Treble]

Aww Pope

;3

<3

[Treble]

why don't you trust me, TiP?

[1]

[Treble]

Hello! I am the head #2 of Treble!

I know quite a bit of the players here! Sakura vs Generic will be an interesting fight to watch!

<3 TiP

And I have got to say... Generic is overly defensive. I am in an ongoing game w/ him, but his behaviour certainly is different; is all I can say.

VOTE: Generic

Why are you being overly defensive?

no

UNVOTE: , and VOTE: Sakura

we need to talk about these things :c too many people voting and suspecting Generic

[1]

[Treble]

TIP is right we can easylynch this

i have an idea, if sakura really is scum there's are 2 easy ways to tell

1. throw her into the lake with an iron ball chained to her leg. if she's scum she'll shoot off the chain and survive
2. burn her at the stake! if she is mafia then she will burn anyway

win win imo

I'm just going to UNVOTE: her first so we can drown/notdrown/burn her instead okay

[Treble]

[¡1!]

[Treble]

in case you didn't understand my head says that both of these might be town v. town

[1.5]

[Treble]

why are there ducklings on the bottom of each page but not at the top? definition of sadness!

[1]

[Treble]

Is mafia innocent until proven guilty?

Or the other way around???

[1]

[Treble]

Nothing much to say here...

Seriously what ruined the thread?

Head 2

[Treble]

hi there!

I think TIP is town.

I also think D3fend3r is bandwagoning hard!

my other head should be he later, thank you and bye

[1]

[Treble]

This thread gets dumber and dumber

I hope you guys get a wagon + case = lynch soon

Because I am not amused.

I'm supposed to post reads and all but considering how this game is going I'll wait till the idiocy clears up first.

-Head #2

[Treble]

sorry head 2 is v/la for a few more days. if you know why, feel free to lol with me

i think this is tip's town meta. notmara also looks very town but i'll have to recheck later for intent rather than just skimming the content, atm ofc we're not lynching that

and i think taskmaster is fluffing (still not unusual for one of the heads and a bit hypocritical here maybe) and kind of buddying rob-notmara as seen in their most recent posts

idk i'll have to read defender more since i didn't catch what you guys seem to be catching but for now VOTE: Taskmaster, scummiest read

[1]

[Treble]

...

[Treble]

defender if you're here claim now

[Treble]

I need to know if he's mafia

[Treble]

of course

[Treble]

that "oh she was already voting me" sounded fake as fuck though

[Treble]

I still really hate his response though. It's crafted nicely, but the tone is way off.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: D3f3nd3r

[Treble]

I'm voting Def. Not SoS.

~Fixed >.>

[Treble]

In otherwords, according to your logic anyone that pointed out the fake reaction after Treble did is scum.

This post implies that you have a townread on us. But from earlier on...

Apparently calling you out on fluffing is deflecting, and yet you still aren't commenting on NotMara instead you accuse me of parrting him, quite interesting

FoS: Treble

Is this the first time you do a chainsaw defense? coz it's not going to work.

And treble is leaning scum why hana?

I already mentioned it earlier, then he started calling me out on deflecting, which isn't really deflecting because i have a good reason for suspecting him, and his post just made himself look worse.

Still getting an odd feeling from Treble, but i don't think it's enough to warrant my vote yet.

idk, atm i could dig either defender, tip or treble lynch btw...

@Mod: Prod Treble please

So anyway, Sakura: do you think we are town or scum?

[Treble]

My scumread on you has weakened due to how you were able to see through my trap that caught defender.

As joyful as that makes me feel inside, I'm fairly sure being able to see the obvious ≠ town.

[Treble]

Same here.

Let's start by

voting Sakura Hana

, who we thought was the scummiest on that wagon. The vote stayed there as the wagon grew bigger and bigger, despite how much she flailed around with her supposed changing reads. Something seems off about her, and a lot of the end of Day 1 shows it.

[1]

[Treble]

Hello, This is Head 2 again. Sorry I've been inactive and all.

Anyway, Sakura's OMGUS is extremely scummy according to context. Although I was wrong along with my other head about d3fender, I am going to strive for the best and Sakura was first on my scumlist(d3f was 3rd, not opposed to his lynch but bah!)

Firstly, Wishy washy voting patterns are a scumtell.

Secondly, her interactions with TiP and Generic aren't very good, in my eyes.

Thirdly, her sudden change of read on my slot "Oh, he's scum!" "Oh, he's town because he saw my obvious gambit!" "Oh, he's scum again!(conveniently after my slot voted her)"



TiP is also fishy but he's innocent until proven guilty.


Head #2

[Treble]

"Oh, he's scum again!(conveniently after my slot voted her)"

And you say this conveniently because you woke up before I did, your post was like 13 minutes in after the thread opened.

Feels like you were waiting in line to be able to vote me and then push any vote towards you as OMGUS.

What exactly do you mean by this?


OMGUS isn't the problem. The problem is how you said I was scum, town, then scum again in quick succession. What made you change your read in less than 1 page?


#2

[Treble]

I already said that 1 flip made me change my read.

The defender flip or Voodoo flip?

There was no reason if it is in the case of the voodoo flip


Therefore it must have been the defender flip. Please enlighten us on how you "put your money on Treble" because somebody whom you gambited on flipped town.

Also do enlighten us why it is /scummy/ and why it is not OMGUS. Please reply reasonably or logically; doing so otherwise will be detrimental to your slot.


Your replies are being judged.



#2

[Treble]

Just to convince you to cooperate...

My scumread on you has weakened due to how you were able to see through my trap that caught defender. Still there's something about you making me feel uneasy so i can't give you any higher than just neutral atm...

Ah, the number next to his name threw me off. Indeed, there are two scum between those seven in D3f's wagon.

My money is on Generic and Treble. Now where's the 3rd hmm

23 posts.

[Treble]

I've expected a response

But that response was so bad I don't even know how to react.

Let me ask you again: How is Defender flip implicate me as scum, and how does it justify your scumread instead of OMGUS?

[Treble]

Are you saying that I was the only neutral in your reads list?

Are you also saying that this is working off PoE and has nothing to do with the defender flip implicating me?"

All right, thanks.

[Treble]

that "oh she was already voting me" sounded fake as fuck though

This post, I didn't think my fake hammer was that obvious, and we both thought his response was odd, however he did that after I had already mentioned how long it took him to think up that response, I was thinking about it over the night, and that's pretty much when i thought he should've been just telling people it was fake to seal the mislynch.

What happened to this?

That was the only singular reasoning that you had given for "your money on me" in response to the other players.

Do you have anything else to add?

[Treble]

There's nothing wrong with 657. But there's a disconnect between #785 and #657 in that by reading the thread, I would not have found out the new information presented in 785 because it was not said in 657.

Effectively you're hiding your justification for calling me scum, only to give it out later.

Please be reminded that hiding of information is bad for the town, in most occasions.

[Treble]

Wrong answer.

[Treble]

Lynch this with fire.

[Treble]

Question to all: Can TiP + Hana be scum together or are they mutually exclusive? I'd personally think that they can possibly be both scum.

However I find Hana scummier as of this moment.

[Treble]

which is why my vote is on her



#2

[Treble]

Rhetorical question ~

[Treble]

anyway it was nice talking to you hana, sad that you're leaving mafia :'( (or are you?)

[Treble]

...Why do I always feel Sakura is lying when she says she wants to use time wisely and get things done?

[Treble]

mod told me to post!

[Treble]

mara i'm here for you bby!

[Treble]

gonna get you to page top don't w~o~r~r~y~

[Treble]

notmara is town imo so I'm gonna sheep HARD

[Treble]

SORRY MARA I STOLE YOUR SPOT. D:

[Treble]

SOMEONE PUT HIM AT L-1 BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO HAMMER ANYTHING YET.

[Treble]

<3

[Treble]

what the hell head 1 what kind of jackshit spamposting was that


Mara, I don't know if its because you included me in your case or not which makes me prejudiced

but from an observer's point of view I don't like your case




#2

[Treble]

Not really trying to be a defensive prick here but looking at this logical inconsistency in your "case" makes me go

TiP is also fishy but he's innocent until proven guilty.

What the hell does that mean? Please explain. From my point of view,

this posting comes from scum

with TiP or

potentially town

with a silly reason to post this.

"This posting comes from scum or town"

I don't know how to say this better.... OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO COME FROM EITHER SCUM OR TOWN? OR ELSE WHAT... SERIAL KILLER??

Question to all: Can TiP + Hana be scum together or are they mutually exclusive? I'd personally think that they can possibly be both scum.

However I find Hana scummier as of this moment.

This posting, on the other hand,

either comes from scum

IF either TiP or Hana is town

OR town.

We know Hana is scum, so this would have to be scum with a town TiP or just town.

"This posting... either comes from scum, OR town."


I don't wish to use this small part here to make a logical fallacy regarding his whole case... nor will I call his "whole case" "shit", but considering this snippet of extreme fail logic in his "case" just diminishes his credibility by /a lot/ in my eyes.


#2

[Treble]

>if it doesnt come from either scum or town, where does it come from?

I'm not going to comment anything much about the case on TiP, but I'd like to advise all members of the town to take NotMara with a pinch of salt.

Seeing as to so many people sheeping him etc

[Treble]

trebles' last post made me think scum-
ohwait that's us
we really should talk about these things ahead of time ok

[Treble]

ah, so I guess something bad happened to your idea that "no way tip and treble could be scum together no way"
meh intent to hammer but we're liking notmara a lot less nowww...
and someone explain why it can't be taskmaster.

[Treble]

"no way tip and treble could be scum together no way"

When did I say that?

"no way tip and treble could be scum together no way"

When did I say that?

It's implied in how you've said you can see a Sakura-Treble team or Sakura-TIP team, but that the combination is unlikely.

Intent to hammer.

TIP, claim any actions you've made. And final comments, because I really don't have the time to read more into your reads. I'm bored and tired and I think NotMara's probably looking in the right direction with this.

Also I want more from Taskmaster on if TIP isn't scum, who do you think is one of Sakura's partners?

[Treble]

Well, I'm bored with this now. Regardless of the flip I think Taskmaster should be lynched tomorrow.

VOTE: TIP

[Treble]

Head 2 guesses that Tip will not flip scum

Head 2 advises for people not to blindly sheep NotMara

I also believe that Taskmaster and Mutley to be questioned and interrogated the next day.


#2

[Treble]

head 1 is bad scumhunter

all of you are too


#2

[Treble]

where is sound of silence is he lurky?

[Treble]

Generic is town as

fuck

it can get.

By process of elimination, there are 2 scum in the remaining people whom I recall is Siv, Mutley, SoS, Taskmaster

I could flip a coin and all, but I suspect SoS and Siv

mainly SoS for inactivity, lurking, and not contributing to discussion.

Siv because of reasons previously presented.

I may need to put in more work in this game, because i may need to dig for info to snipe Task with, which [requires work]

Mutley may or may not be town, he's an oddball.



VOTE: Sound of Silence

Less silence, more attempts to find mafia.

Please provide reads on all players still alive, and also your top2 scumreads.




#2

[Treble]

marangal told me

[Treble]

thats bullshit

i've seen his scumgame and its nothing like this

[Treble]

head 2 sucks

mutley is town

we're sheeping him

UNVOTE:

you ok with that?

[1]

[Treble]

mutley, i am willing to compromise with you on siv.


VOTE: siv

#2

[Treble]

Or, you could actually read things that other people have pointed out before to you. Such as the fact that it takes 4 to lynch with 6 playing, not 3.

Eliminating the idea of mutley and us being scum, which from an objective standpoint has at least one of us confirmed town, then by PoE Siv is the most likely scum candidate, and I'd prefer to have people who will lynch the right scum alive over LYLO.

[Treble]

Scumslip^

I'd rather we lynch someone(preferably a scum=siv) and everyone use pgo tonight.

if siv flips town everyone use pgo

if siv flips scum we rejoice etc

2easy


#2

[Treble]

Maybe that's because he doesn't have a shot to use. Maybe because his "shot" is to shoot others, aka he is the mafia.


However, I'm quite sure that Sound of Silence is one of the mafia. (If siv isnt then taskmaster is)

but anyway we lynch and all of us use our pgo its pretty easy

I do assume nobody has used their pgo yet....

[Treble]

#2

[Treble]

well then mafia is going to shoot you tonight then

unless you havent used it and the mafia shoots themselves because they shot you


wonderful wifom what will the mafia do?

the last town vote siv and end this. the fact that siv isn't being speedyhammered shows that we're on the right track

[Treble]

a+ bus^

everyone load your weapons

defend ourselves

[Treble]

Him and siv most probably

[Treble]

either you or task imo



or maybe mutley's is having us on and he's the last scum idk paranoia

[Treble]

nah im not scum

you arent either imo

[Treble]

FOR FRUCK SAKE I misread generic



dammit


i did peg SoS though