Mini 1474: Desperado's Revenge (Game Over)

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VOTE: Flench

die, sumbag

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I'm handsome you asshole

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^ Why didn't you like it? It seems like he was kidding, and OMGUS is usually a null reaction anyway

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I've played a game with Device before he... wasn't very useful to be honest. He acted scummy then claimed doctor when under pressure and got himself lynched the next day when he told us he protected one of the players he wanted lynched.

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Sorry :L that wasn't a personal crack at you just some meta

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Or 2 scum and a serial killer.

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I'm sorry, i meant feel it not flench

Well, very early the game estimates but;

JJcoolPants- You seem town to me, making frequent posts, generating content.

RadiantCowbells- I think he's playing a town gambit

sthar8-town

theomoaner- He gives me scummy vibes, his scumhunting feels weak and forced.

Radioactive Wolf- Gonna look OMGUSy but he's made two posts, one confirming and another voting me without an explanation, either scummy or bad town play. Will have to see more to be sure.

Everyone else has felt null/not posted enough.

VOTE: theomoaner

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I think cowbells is bad town, not scum.

Hahaha dismissing my vote on you as OMGUS. I gave pretty clear reasons for my vote, and it was after your vote was already off me.

I think Flench is scum. Do you think I am ecumenical, Flench?

I'll explain theomoaners quotes at the bottom of 98 for him. I believe he is suggesting you two made a slip by both suggesting there is only two scum. an interesting theory, to say the least. Not nearly enough on its own, of course.

FoS on feel it. I don't like that I had to ask you for your reads to get going, and when you did you joined a pretty lame wagon without your own evidence. Same with Flench, just piggybacking what others have said

[offtopic] I can never see the word ecumenical without thinking of this (probably not safe for work) [/offtopic]

Yes JJ you got it, but I really wanted to see Feel It's reaction first, that's why I was holding off.

Sthar has already pointed ot that he is probably the most experienced player in this game so I would assume that he would be thinking that this would be a reasonably standard setup of 20%-25% mafia, or three person mafia team so why does he suggest to Cowbells that...

... If you're scum,

your partner knows your alignment

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Singular

partner. It seems mighty suspicious to me.

Feel It also mentions a two man scum team, that's why I mentioned this. He is already ringing alarm bells with massive fluff posting then jumping a popular wagon for contrived reasons.

... but I wanted it to come from him, since there's no protown reason to beat around the bush with an idea like that.

I chose to hold off, as I said earlier, because I really wanted to see Feel It's reaction, if there was one. If you and he, (or indeed anyone and he) are a scum team then I guess,from his play so far, he would be the weaker member and his reaction would provide the most information. Too late though now JJ has explained it.

@N64Lord: Whats you view on Feel It?

@Mnenonic: What do you think of N64Lord?

And how is my posting fluffier than anybody else? What's scummy about me suggesting a 2 scum team with a serial killer? That's a real possibility and the fact you're trying to use straightforward posts like that, along with asking other players about me, suggests you're scum but trying to flip me by testing to see if I'm an easy target and if others will follow you. I'm feeling more confident about my vote the more I see you post.

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Woah, this game is moving fast I can't keep up.

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I haven't posted much due to be being busy, sorry.

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Don't stop believing

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I completely lost track of this game.

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I'm staying dw babe. <3

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I still stand by my vote of theomoaner. Radiant is hard to read but is leaning town, seems to brash to be scum.

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^ case in point

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Don't fuck with me, kid

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^ this children is a bad scumhunter

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^ OMGUS

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If it means anything, I'm town. I haven't bothered saying much because I've lost track of this game in all honesty. I'll be more active tomorrow.

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I don't want Flench to die

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I've been trying to read and catch but this game is a clusterfuck.

RadiantCowbells- Town, been drawing lots of attention to himself, and not the good kind either so if he's scum he is playing a good ruse.

RadioactiveWolf- Leaning scum, feels opportunistic like his wolfish name suggests and he picks on players that are are easy targets and avoids the ones who argue better. This seems like fake scumhunting to me and with the hope of getting a townie lynched.

Lucky2u- Null. His posts haven't really said much other than he thinks Radiant and EPM are his favored lynches. I'm torn between his self vote as a genuine town play at wanting a lynch before the deadline or a scumplay trying to fabricate said feeling.

AJ/JJ- Mostly null, hard to get a read with the replacement.

Flench- I was against lynching him at first due to him doing nothing to warrant it, felt like a collection of players bullying him but now my mind has changed, he self votes and then... removes it and changes his mind about wanting to die and then votes for the person he thinks is the most likely to get a lynch on (myself) erratic behavior.

jon_h61- Leaning town, has made fairly logical posts as are his choices for a lynch.

Impetus- Townish, I liked most of the logic behind his reads.

sthar8- Strong townread, has asked lots of questions, made lots of analysis and pressure based on logic. Some of his posts were a bitch to read through though.

evilpacman18- Null, mostly fluffy posts.

AJ The Epic- Townish, Made some good points on on the voting patterns of players, but I found his choice to vote for Lucky a bit odd. (not a scummish way)

mnemonicdevice- People have been right to criticize me for lurking, but where's the pressure here? He's been just as inactive. Null and give him the benefit of doubt that's he's been busy like me.

N64Lord- Just can't read him.

theomoaner- Nothing personal bro, but you were scummy at the beginning of the day and you're still scummy now. Your reaction to Radiant felt like a scum trying to build an easy wagon. Wants to lynch me or Flench for low activity while posting high levels of fluff himself. Changes his vote over to Flench when I look like a less likely possibility.

I'm keeping my vote where it has been for most of the day for now, but am willing to change my vote to another Flench if he's the only lynch we will get today. Sorry about being sidetracked I've mostly caught up now and will be posting more regularly.

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I think the scumteam is theomoaner, RadiantWolf and someone like EPM or Mnemonicdevice.

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AJ/JJ- Mostly null, hard to get a read with the replacement.

AJ The Epic- Townish, Made some good points on on the voting patterns of players, but I found his choice to vote for Lucky a bit odd. (not a scummish way)

Explain your inability to keep reads on me straight. This is very much something I will consider grounds to lynch for. You're not able to keep consistent reads on me means you're making up reads as you go.

Sorry, got mixed up, the first one was based on JJ, he was null and hard to read and then you came along, who is more townish.

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I would have rather lynched theomoaner, but a no lynch is bad.

VOTE: Flench the only guy town might reach a decision to today.

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I'm not convinced Flench is town at this point. He made some weird plays. theomoaner won't get lynched today.

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So, you prefer a choice not your primary?

Prefer? no. Accept? yes.

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I disagree with most of your reads actually. Yes i think Radiantwolf is scummy but we also disagree on theomoaner, EPM and Mnemonicdvice according to your last scumread you think they're all town. Why did you self vote then decide you didn't want to die?

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AJ, I'm not revealing my main.

I did a quick search for Luckys selfvoting and only see him having selfvoted once ever here where he was a town vengeful in a marathon game and selfvoted due to impending deadline from what I gather so while it's probably not the best meta to use his self-vote here is probably a slight town tell if anything since the reasoning here seems to be impending deadline as well. I don't have time to meta him as much as I'd like to sadly.

Ugh, Feel It's Post 398 is throwing me in circles, I'm going from finding some of the reads understandable to finding others nonsensical and unnatural; some of his reads don't seem to mesh, his "I don't want Flench to die" change to "Now I find him scummy due to selfvote and unvote and is erratic" feels opportunistic and unnatural and the comparison between that and what he's stated about Lucky feels weird.

I feel a lot more confident in my town reads than my scum reads right now, think I need to take a look at my null reads tomorrow, especially N64. For now though the only lynch that I'm comfortable and think has a decent chance of going through and hitting scum is Feel It. Those who scum read Flench can you explain to me what I'm missing there because I still think he's town.

Vote: Feel It

Well, how is he towny? At first I wanted to avoid lynching him due to him being an easy target bandwagon that scum will often build. (look who is on the wagon). Flench selfvoting is awful townplay at best, downright scummy at worst which is what lowered my estimation of his alignment. I find theomoaner and Radiantwolf more scummy but the town is too split and divided to get a lynch on either of those two. There's been so much content in this game lots of us are confused and a no lynch will make this even worse and I strongly want to avoid one and I question the players putting votes on players you can see won't get lynched today. Flench is the only player town might agree on lynching.

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Also requesting extension

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Lucky, don't you want an extension?

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So now can people say things other than "well Flench is the only one likely to get lynched so I'm voting for him"

It's getting old.

Yes

VOTE: theomoaner

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^ Pretty much. I don't get why he thinks Lucky and me are a team?

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tfw nobody votes theomoaner

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Four people on the wagon, high chance of there being at least one scum.

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Who do you think it is then?

theomoaner and/or Radioactive

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You missed theomoaner, also you should probably claim. What is scummy about EPM?

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Oh, and RadiantCowbells too.

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Personally I don't think the chances of Lucky flipping scum are very high so I'm not hammering.

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VOTE: Lucky2u

I'm not that keen on this lynch but I think overall we need the information it will be bring us and nobody else seems like they're gonna do the hammer.

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Looks like there's a serial killer in town.

sthar8 choking doesn't surprise me he seemed pretty town to everybody.

Aj The Epic was a more interesting choice. He said he was gonna push a lynch on me today so I'm sure scum will try and use that line against me.

Pushing the same lynch as yesterday VOTE: theomoaner

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VOTE: RadioactiveWolf

I'm not 100% sure of his claim but I think it's too risky to lynch him today.

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Am I the only one that really hates N64's Post 531?

Feel It, you didn't answer my question; Why did you instantly assume SK?

muh last game had a SK in it.

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525 is also an awfully scummy post that shouldn't be overlooked.
I pretty much ignored Feel It yesterday, will have to evaluate him soon.

Why? because I explained how scum would push against me?

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@theomoaner: In case your claim is real. If you are one shot vig why blow your load on night 1 at AJ?

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@Impetus I'm saying that feel it's posts make me suspect scum on him but *cough* one of the people who defended him did so in a way that makes me think they are a town PR *wheeze*
@evilpacman I contributed to the lynch by making posts against lucky, but he was at l-1 before I was in a state to move my vote, and I wasn't the fastest person to hammer after his claim. Who are you constantly reminding that you are "basically" conf town; the lurkers.... or yourself?
I shouldn't be listening to my imagination when I have the whole ISO of not hunting, dredging up irrelevent stuff, and taking the most likely stand on wagons without bringing anything new to them. VOTE: feel it

What are you talking about? you've posted as much fluff as me and the only wagon I joined was Flench out of avoiding a nl. Speaking of which you've just joined the most likely wagon today.

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VOTE: Feel it

Ehh fuck it let's find out. Town pretty much lost the game last night anyway.

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I'm fine with a massclaim

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vote me pls

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I'm not stopping anyone voting me, I've got 4 votes so I haven't put many people off. I've tried to give opinions and help but ever since that that point when I was busy yesterday it was decided I was scum and I'm not bothered with defending myself anymore. Lynch me and find out. If you think I'm pulling a scum ploy then you should definitely vote me. I think it would towns best interest to get rid of me now.

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Okay I'm back. Flench and EPM back and forth is amusing but I didn't get scummy vibes from either of them. The game has gone pretty quiet, Radioactive has been replaced and I wanna see his replacements opinions. I think the biggest thing to note is MD's vote on me, felt opportunistic as fuck and he gave leeway on voting Flench as well, who has also been under pressure and has a good chance of being lynched. He gave no reasoning to either of these other than saying we're scum and saying I should be lynched because of self voting. He's lurking and I want to see a full list of his reads.

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MD can you post your reads please

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Who is RD? Need more explanation than that anyway.

VOTE: mnemonicdevice

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Why do you dislike myself and cowbells, when MD is guilty of the same thing, but to a worse degree?

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My vote is on pacman. What the...

@Feelit, I feel device has contributed significantly.

VOTE: Feelit

This is bad, bad buddying.

@Slandaar, voting without reading the thread is dangerous. If town, scum can use that against you to discredit you. If scum, it shows you don't really give a damn who is lynched.

That post by Flench is really bad.

The problem is, if that's a slip at all, Feelit is also scum. I am not opposed to a Flench lynch but feelit is the more charismatic of the two and thus deadlier.

He then does it again by here with agreeing on Slandaar's post, but instead of actually voting for flench, he uses at justification to keep his vote on me because I'm more dangerous. Damn right I'm dangerous I've been calling his predecessor scum all game and he wants me out of the way because I'm his biggest threat. I'm calling it now, I think the scumteam is Titus, mnemonicdevice and Nsin.

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deadline tomorrow, who we lynching?

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No one has given a satisfactory reason to be voting Feel It.

It's the worst wagon today by far.

I'm great with MD and somewhat good with Flench.

I'm complaining here but it is legit awful. MD and Flench have both voted me for self voting, Titus thinks Flench is scum but instead of voting for him, he votes for me (who Flench is also voting for) It is the worst, most retarded vote I've ever seen.

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VOTE: Flench

tfw no MD lynch

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Flench you should claim btw

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That was so nerve racking, I was 50/50 on Flench.

Looking back at Flench's play, he distanced himself from MD, the only mention he made of him was in his player reads back in day 1 where he mentioned him as town. He also refused to vote for MD even when his life was on the line which was interesting.

On the other side Mnemonic DID vote for Flench back in day 1, but it was early on.

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Who are your scumreads now?

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he was the one who got Flench lynched

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VOTE: Mnemonicedevice

I can't really see him flipping town.

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Doesn't make much difference. He hasn't given any votes or indications on who he thinks is scum.

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vote: Feel It

762: absolves himself of responsibility for taking long to vote Flench, but if you look at his posts, everything besides his weirdly intense (try-hard distancing) RVS vote and his actual vote on Flench yesterday indicates he thinks Flench is town.

768: Knows exactly why Slandaar died??? Except he wasn't even the one who got Flench lynched, I had at least as much to do with that and so did a couple other people.

770: IIRC Feel It has had a scum read on MD the whole game, but if that's the case it doesn't explain why he didn't vote him in either of the last two posts and instead waited until he had the OPPORTUNITY to get away with it, because a bunch of people did it in such a short time.

eh, whatever man I cba to defend myself anymore but you'll look bad when I flip town. (good job if you're scum though)

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I am. It's blatantly obviously just by looking through my and Flench's iso we''re not aligned. I almost got him killed on d1 when I voted him and I did help kill him yesterday, and that's without all the votes Flenches put on me. If you really think we've been bussing scumbuddies all game push my lynch bit lots really, really bad. I shouldn't even need to say anything it's laughably bad I'm one of the least likely scum.

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I'm still down to lynch Feel It. Nothing in the vote counts says they can't be on scum. In fact, of particular interest is the lucky wagon, which has three dead town on it, me who is town but you don't know that, Flench in the scummiest spot possible, (how did we miss that) and RC who I'm reading as town but I guess could be scum. I'm leaning to Flench and Feel It being the two scum on that and then N64 being the one off of it.

That's really, really weak and you should feel bad.

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VOTE: Feel It

Let's move this shitty game along

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He should really replace out if he's gonna post this infrequently

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give reads

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tfw no gf

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Vanilla townie

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btw im town