Micro 236: Aristocats Mafia, GAME OVER

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/confirm

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Makes 7 (or 8, depending on WTF Umbrage was doing) by my count. So...

VOTE: Jake from State Farm. Because by bussing my scumbuddy, my QT-buddy, my partner in crime, I distance myself and look all townie

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@Jake: I fake-claimed scum in my RVS vote on you.

Other than that, no. You?

Skelda, the purpose of RVS is to incite discussion. You have to post

something

to get the game going, and that's as good a way as any. Something will shake out of it.

AA9, why no lurk?

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Evil Regals, do you always place votes when you ask questions?

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Well why'd you do it this time?

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Your vote on Aeronaut didn't seem like an RVS one. Usually when I see people ask questions and vote for the person they're asking the question of, it's because they think there's something scummy in what the person wrote.

Do you think Aeronaut is scum? If so, why?

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Agreed.

UNVOTE: Jake
VOTE: Evil Regals

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@Jake and salures. Can you point out to me, what is not random about Evil's vote? And Salures, can you expand on your vote on Evil?

Pretty much what you said in your question to him. He makes

one

comment to

one

person and then "randomly" votes that person? Not likely. The smiley in his vote post also feels like he was setting something up.

But then, he follows it up with "there's no rhyme or reason how I post or write." I did a quick meta scan on him before I placed my vote and I don't buy that. I think he knew exactly what he was doing and didn't know what to do when he got challenged on it.

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Okay, I keep seeing people who are playing this game come online and not play this game.

Scum won't find themselves. Stop lurking and play!

/rant

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Sorry for the gender slip; there's a field in your profile you can fill out if you want to advertise your gender to minimize future mistakes like mine. (There are plenty of males onsite who have female avatars so...)

If you had put other names it wouldn't have been as big an issue. It's the fact you put the

same

name as who you were talking to that sent up warning bells.

Your point on making sure posts are clean: Sorry, that's not a scum-only trait. When I have time (and am feeling okay) I do the same no matter what alignment I am because I've been mislynched many a time when I haven't and I honestly forgot something I said. I've also winged it as scum. So the way you write your posts doesn't act as an alignment-indicator to me.

Not sure what you're asking in your last question. When I meta'ed you I looked at non-ongoing games and didn't find a scum one of yours; ongoing games are off-limits for discussion.

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I watch the show for Rumpelstiltskin.

AA, I

always

want people to lurk less and play the game more. My question to you was because, well, it has to do with my perception of your meta. I'm going to leave it at that for now.

Show me the meta reference you used, i would really like to know how you made that point about Regals.

First post in as a replacement, thoughtful and analytical.

RVS vote the way they're usually done, with the vote at the top, and not after directly asking someone a question.

Another "typical" RVS vote, followed two ISO posts later with thoughtful and analytical.

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Yeah.

The thing is, I know that. I

am

making more out of it than it is. I did so intentionally, to see who would jump on the wagon with me, and identify scum that way.

But all the damn LURKERS are making that kind of thing too hard

UNVOTE:

(Evil, I did look further into the first one but didn't realize the lie you linked to was in the signup thread. I thought it was in the game thread, later, making it a joke comment instead of what you actually intended.)

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EBWOP: I did look further into the

third

one.

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VOTE: Aeronaut

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Aero has made 25 posts elsewhere since he last posted in this game. Most every time I've seen that, it's been scum behavior.

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And the fact that your name isn't spelled the way you like is stopping you from otherwise participating in the game how, exactly?

Sal, Aero posting else where means...? are you saying that he is intentionally ignoring this game?

Yes.

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I always write others names properly

salures

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his whole "fake"-claiming scum thing, which reads, to me, like nervous scum.

Bad reason.

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What just happened there?

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Fine. Then I'll just say that "calling you out on it" is not how I'd describe what I did. I saw a newbie who was talking about RVS, I remember being a newbie who talked about RVS, and I thought I'd offer some advice.

What I

will

call you out on is, other than the post calling me scum and Aero town, both just for the way we responded to your RVS play, all I see in your posts are -- comments about your RVS play. You have no comments on anything else that's happened in the game?

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It is damn page four! Most of the posts so far have been fluff discussing names or gifs of evil queens!

Most but not all. There are things other things to discuss than your RVS activity and what's come of it.

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i've given as much focus to the name thing as you have to regals avatar.

Not true. AA9 made two posts out of 13 about the avatar. You've made four (or five if you include the one I'm responding to) out of seven. The comparison fails.

Any reads yet besides the town one on Regal?

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Aero: Don't talk about ongoing games. Even obliquely like you're doing.

RVS is pretty much all that had happened at the point, it seems.

No it's not. People questioned people about their actions and got answers. Those are worthy of comments.

I don't particularly like how Saulres is very quick to want to lynch

Umm... What? Point me to where I'm quick to want to lynch.

Saulres asked you why you read regals as town

Actually I didn't. He explained that read, I asked him about any other reads.

AA9 is now a pretty solid townread for me. The realization that she put TCold at L-1 the first time reads genuine, and scum could have just let that go. The fact she put him back at L-1 afterwards is consistent after that ridiculous V/LA post.

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Heh. You think I was quick, I think I was amazingly patient for me. If you play with me enough you'll see patience is not something I'm good with

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Why?

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Is that why you first voted him?

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what about Saulres, i want to lynch for being most active

Wait what? You want to lynch me because I'm actively playing the game?

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I don't know what that means.

When you voted him, did you think he was scum for the reasons you gave in 117?

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Oops! Sorry for not picking that up. No harm, no foul.

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I so want you to be town, Jake.

Before you voted him he made

one

post with content, and that's the only mention of his name. That's not "too much time". In the same post he did ask questions about reads, but he was looking for information apparently in order to formulate reads. Other players hadn't given reads yet or posted anything other than fluff yet, either, including you. So your reasons for picking him over someone else don't make sense to me.

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Skelda, no one's at L-1 at the moment...

Umbrage, any particular reason(s) you have those reads on me, Jake, and AA9?

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...

Look at your post where you said that. It's up higher on this page. Here.

Now look at the post

directly before that

, where the mod gave a vote count.

I'm confused how you're reading this game.

UNVOTE: Aero

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Really? I've never seen anyone make a "I can't read the vote counts on my phone" excuse. And what does where you make your posts have to do with how you read the game?

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I'm just trying to understand why you didn't see the vote count, which was directly above your post about L-1. That tells me that you're

not

reading the game, you're just posting for the sake of posting.

When scum are active lurking, they can afford to not read the game, as long as someone's getting lynched who's not on their side. Town has motivation to read the game and pay attention.

VOTE: Skelda

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It's certainly anti-town. You could just as easily hammer someone "by mistake" if you're posting on impulse and getting mixed up.

But bah, you did the same thing in Newbie 1409 where you were town so
UNVOTE:

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slimer, it's page 7. You really need us to give you a summary?

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I'mma try something.

tcold, where are you?

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I like opinions. Tell me yours.

AA9 town, Jake I hope town, too many lurkers.

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I'll resume with the reading and responding tommorow.

It's been tomorrow for a while now...

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And?

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What is so hard about this concept?

Don't talk about ongoing games. Even obliquely like you're doing.

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I now have a townread on Jake.

Holding my vote still until tCold posts again and/or slimer and Nexus start playing the game.

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Fml I didn't even look at the player list before replacing in

Why the fml? What about the playerlist do you not like?

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when his V/LA time runs out..

Almost two days later

He requests replacement.

FTFY.

Problem with lynching him because of the actions is he could still be just derpy town. I don't want to give scumlurkers an easy win. That already happened to me once in one game (reference available upon request) and I have no desire to repeat it.

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That's not quite accurate. I'm not sure if he was derptown or derpscum. I was waiting to see how he re-entered the game to make that call. And now I am denied that opportunity.

I continue to wait for the other lurkers to start playing the game so I can get reads on them.

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slimer logged in

many

times since he last posted here.

So did Tcold
So did skelda
So did Evil
Nexus is hidden but he's posted elsewhere
Same with Umbrage

We can't policy lynch all of them...

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That would just make the problem worse...

Hopefully Jacob can get some good, eager replacements. Game's short, reads are to be had.

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saulres is town

your arguments with

AA9

Evil Regals

screams

town v town

(ftfy, emphasis mine)

saulres is a gut read based on his interactions with Evil.

saulres COULD be scum

Why does your read on me diminish from post to post?

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Pretty sure I didn't say yes to 24 hours for prod, I just warned you of a potential consequence.

But yes on 48 for prod, 24 to replace.

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Not expecting mustard and coldslaw.

Expecting reads and reasons.

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That's all you have to say since your last visit?

No wonder so many people think you're scum.

Still waiting on Umbrage and Nexus to answer my questions, plus content and reads from slimer and ut. We've only got three and a half days left...

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Mostly because if it's something like what you said there, then that's going to potentially influence your reads and I want to be able to take that into account when evaluating your alignment. I don't know you (don't think we played together before and if we have, I apologize, my memory sucks) so it's good to see your lynch-list doesn't match your "don't like" list; it tells me you can be objective (or mostly objective) when giving your reads.

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hello, gonna catch up later today

Do you live on Ventura Highway?

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So your reads are: Nexus town, Skelda slum, slimer town? What about me, Jake, AA, Evil and Umbrage?

I'm good with lynching Skelda or slimer but I still want to see slimer post something first.

Slimer replaced Aero who I had a scumread on. His lack of activity does nothing to counter that.

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Trying to not flip a shit

Reads before you go?

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The reason why i keep logging in is because its my home page for my phone,

Change it.

Because I just saw you

again

, and

again

you didn't do anything. And I'm about ready to lynch you for it, because it appears that you're intentionally avoiding this game, just like your predecessor.

Matter of fact, yeah.

VOTE: slimer

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JSJSBDIABDJSLIMER YOU LURK FUCKY

We have a little over two days left. If this is all we can expect from you, why did you replace into the game?

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Hello? Is this thing on?

Is this just going to run out to deadline? If so Jake just give the word and I'll vote for Skelda, even if it's the hammer. I'd rather lynch slimer/Aero as they're my top scumread right now, but if it's not going that way, I

usually

don't have as much time on the weekends.

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In the movie, Thomas attacks a milkman so Duchess and the kids can have something to eat. The guy has like 2 minutes, tops, of screentime.

If Jacob really reached that low in the characters for a role I'll laugh my ass off.

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Damn 504 errors really playing havoc with phone posting, eh? At least that's what it looks like...

Not sure why you think my case against slimer is "an excuse policy lynch" -- He replaced Aero who was my top scumread (my vote was on him when he replaced out) and has done nothing to convince me otherwise.

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@Mod: I'm voting Slimer

, Before Skelda did. Why did he come to this baby wagon instead of the other? Who knows.

The ridiculousness of this lurking is ridiculous.

And I don't see it changing

So let's just see what happens.

VOTE: Skelda

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Seriously? Even a hammer doesn't bring anybody to post in this game?

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ArcAngel9, ... who was ... Useless

LOL

Town lurkers and an incredibly stupid fakeclaim from Umbrage handed this game to the scum on a silver platter. Nice job.

pedit: Stupid Ninja

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Are those the only role PMs?

I had another one that I got later on in D1 but I didn't want to post it because then Jake would have voted me for having a fake PM and denying it.

Marie -

Mod Helper

You always did you best to to please your mum, out of the three of you, you were the good one and you knew that your mum prefered you, not that she would admit it.

Now she's dead you might as well try and please someone else...

• Tattletale:
  During the game you must point out all errors in votecounts, all players that need prods and any other mistakes.
  
• You win when the Mod elects you as back-up Mod

Confirm in Thread

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The Umbrage claim makes sense now

How?

How does claiming being a doctor

after I flipped as a doctor

make

any

sense?

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And the Most Crappiest Player goes to Slimer. Again..

I, on the other hand, was doing "incredibly well" according to the scum QT.

Or rather, someone named "salutes" was. So why I ended up dead I have no idea

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BTW, Slimer, in reference to the quoted post above: Don't talk about ongoing games!

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.i was sick and wasn't able to get on here as much as i usually do

It would have been helpful if you had taken the time to post that in thread instead of just ignoring the thread.

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I understand the paranoia, though, the way the role was written.

My super-strong townread on you came from the way you were talking in the QT, not from in thread. I realize I probably didn't come across the same way.

But TBH, if we had gone with you protecting me N1 and me not dying, that would have made me

more

suspicious of you. WIFOM kills me

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And then if someone else died, I would have become more suspicious.

Yeah, I WIFOM myself to death. That's why my reads in the dead thread kept getting off

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Nothing wrong with making a villain in the movie a townie in the game, hated or not. That stops the game from being broken by flavor.

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Jake get out of my head, you and I are agreeing on way to much stuff.

pedit: Ninja'd!

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lynched A CLAIMED DOCTOR

After a doctor flip, a claimed doctor

should

be lynched. It's a clear fakeclaim.

Why don't you understand that?

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Personally I could see 1 Protective Town Neighbour, 1 Protective Scum Neighbour and 1 Doctor could totally be a viable set up actually.

Swingy almost certain but with the right make up it could be balanced.

In a Micro? Gut says no.

Even if it does, though, Umbrage didn't play it like that. Look at the dead thread, where he says "THERE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A DOCTOR IN THE GAME". This despite the

flip of a doctor

. It's like he's blind to the reality, and even after the game's over he

still

thinks it was the right play. It wasn't.