Death's Diner -Game Over-

[PeregrineV]

pV you are so much better than threatening to hammer yourself. if you are town there is one person you know is town; you. saying shit like that is stupid.

in other news baezu may be town but i have a fee pages to read and im pretty ill so that will be on the backfoot for a while.

Seriously pv why would you threaten to hammer yourself if you're town?

Your concern, while touching, seems somewhat misplaced. We all think Bro is confirmed town and he has already stated intent to hammer. Given that + I'm being voted for scum, not sure why everyone is against it.

[PeregrineV]

And the more evidence I show about why I think Baezu is scum, the more you think I'm scum.

*shrug* i find the way you've been attacking baezu (and only baezu) thoroughly unconvincing. i also find it weird that you've basically coasted through the game until now and you've only started putting in a load of effort now the endgame is in sight.

now you're doing some ate-like threat to hammer yourself, whereas PV-town should be doing whatever the fuck he can to prevent that happening today.

Like what?

Baezu ain't scum because Amrun called her scum.
Mac ain't scum cause he ain't posting.
That must mean I'm scum.
Plus I said Titus didn't hand us Amrun.

These cases are too non-existent to fight, but I'll try.

No.
Stop.
I'm town.
Don't lynch me.


Baezu IS scum.
Mac, post!
Titus handed us Amrun.

[PeregrineV]

It boils down to 1 or 2 scum left.

If 2, then we are 5:2.

I die, NK, leaves you at 3:2. You'll either get it wrong, or get it right. If you get it right, then you'll do it one more time. Then town wins. Otherwise, we lose.

If 1, then we are 6:1.

I die, NK, leaves you at 4:1. You can no lynch for 2 days to try for 2:1 lylo on day 9.

So, maybe it's best that each person state whether they think it's a 1 or 2 scum game.

[4nxi3ty]

PeregrineV

(3)

- zMuffinMan, Baezu, Titus
Mac (1) - Kalimar
Baezu (2) - Mac, PeregrineV

Not voting (1) - BROseidon

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
(expired on 2013-10-07 11:38:15)

[zMuffinMan]

i'm operating on the assumption it's 2. but yay if it's 1?

[Baezu]

I haven't played enough to even speculate...

[BROseidon]

Probs 2, I'll be glad as if it's 1.

Gonna do some VCA now.

[BROseidon]

2.1:

zMuffinMan (3) - roflcopter, BROseidon, Ghostly Penguin
Natisrasha (3) - Amrun, oriole, PeregrineV

What's interesting here is that the dethy QT had pre-planned a jump onto Muffin, which is why we all so quickly made the jump here. That Nati got 3 votes in a similar timeframe, with Amrun being the first vote, is strongly indicative of scum pushing a pre-planned mislynch here. Looks bad for Kalimar and p5.

2.2:

zMuffinMan (6) - roflcopter, BROseidon, Ghostly Penguin, Amrun, Slandaar, Metal Sonic
Natisrasha (2) - oriole, PeregrineV

Amrun jumps ship when she sees that the dethy QT is all pushing the same person. Further evidence that Muffin is town.

2.3

Amrun (3) - Titus, zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina
zMuffinMan (4) - roflcopter, BROseidon, Slandaar, Metal Sonic
Natisrasha (2) - oriole, PeregrineV
PeregrineV (3) - Amrun, Ghostly Penguin, Romeo

Titus/Muffin push an Amrun counterwagon. More evidence that those two are town. Also, a p5 counterwagon pops up with one scum and two town. Not quite sure what to make of it here.

3.4:

Amrun (3) - Titus, zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina
zMuffinMan (4) - roflcopter, BROseidon, Slandaar, Metal Sonic
Natisrasha (3) - oriole, PeregrineV, Baezu
PeregrineV (3) - Amrun, Ghostly Penguin, Romeo

Baezu joins the Natirasha wagon. Not sure what to make of this.

3.5

Amrun (5) - Titus, zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina, Natisrasha, roflcopter
zMuffinMan (3)- BROseidon, Slandaar, Metal Sonic
Natisrasha (3) - oriole, PeregrineV, Baezu
PeregrineV (3) - Amrun, Ghostly Penguin, Romeo

That Amrun wagon is incredibly town-driven. Nothing else of note.

3.6:

Amrun (6) - Titus, zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina, Natisrasha, roflcopter, Metal Sonic
zMuffinMan (2) - BROseidon, Slandaar
Natisrasha (4) - oriole, PeregrineV, Baezu, Rift Adrift
PeregrineV (4) - Amrun, Ghostly Penguin, Romeo, Juliet

Xiao and TD both think p5 is scum here. This is starting to look like distancing. AA9's lack of doing anything is disconcerting. p5 and kalimar still haven't moved off Nati.

3.something:

Amrun (5) - Titus, zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina, Natisrasha, roflcopter
zMuffinMan (1)- BROseidon
Natisrasha (5) - Baezu, StubbsKVM, Slandaar, Metal Sonic, Amrun
PeregrineV (2) - Ghostly Penguin, Juliet
Metal Sonic (2) - oriole, Romeo

Oriole moves to MS, p5 moves off everything. Baezu sticks around.

Amrun (4) - zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina, roflcopter, Natisrasha
Natisrasha (6) - Baezu, StubbsKVM, Slandaar, Metal Sonic, Amrun, oriole
PeregrineV (4) - Ghostly Penguin, Juliet, Titus, BROseidon
Metal Sonic (2) - Romeo, Rift Adrift

Oriole jumps right back on the Nati wagon a bit later.

Amrun (4) - zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina, roflcopter, Natisrasha
Natisrasha (6) - Baezu, StubbsKVM, Slandaar, Amrun, oriole, PeregrineV
PeregrineV (5) - Ghostly Penguin, Juliet, Titus, BROseidon, Romeo
Metal Sonic (2) - Rift Adrift, Metal Sonic

And p5 jumps right back on...

Amrun (7) - zMuffinMan, Aunt Jemina, roflcopter, Natisrasha, BROseidon, Rift Adrift, Titus
Natisrasha (7) - Baezu, StubbsKVM, Slandaar, Amrun, oriole, PeregrineV, Metal Sonic

This is where shit gets interesting. Both wagons are approaching lynch. The Amrun wagon is incredibly town. The Nati wagon is incredibly questionable.

This also suggests that Slandaar knew who the other scum were, since he's resisting the Amrun lynch against me and rofl.

Town pushes the wagon to a lynch over the Amrun wagon (wtf ghost and penguin >:C). Here's what the final wagon looks like:

Natirasha (10) - Baezu,

StubbsKVM

,

Amrun

, oriole, PeregrineV,

Metal Sonic

,

Romeo

,

Ghostly Penguin

,

Slandaar

, Titus

Based on the way the wagons played out here, combined with what's happened today, I think most-least likely scum is p5, mac, kalimar, Baezu.

Anyone have anything else to say, or can I hammer now?

[PeregrineV]

Sure, you should hammer scum instead of hammering me.

[Kalimar]

@kalimar,

is there any particular reason you chose to vote mac over PV?

Basically, I saw good 'logical' reasons to vote for both Mac and PeregrineV. But my gut preferred Mac.

Mac's stances have all been pretty shallow and, even now, nobody else has voted for him all day despite him being an easy target for scum opportunism if he is town. I think PeregrineV has a decent chance of flipping scum, but I think Mac has a better chance of flipping scum.

pV you are so much better than threatening to hammer yourself. if you are town there is one person you know is town; you. saying shit like that is stupid.

in other news baezu may be town but i have a fee pages to read

and im pretty ill so that will be on the backfoot for a while.

The bolded in particular is a red flag. Actually, I don't like the whole post, but that part in particular, pings.

[Kalimar]

It boils down to 1 or 2 scum left.

If 2, then we are 5:2.

I die, NK, leaves you at 3:2. You'll either get it wrong, or get it right. If you get it right, then you'll do it one more time. Then town wins. Otherwise, we lose.

If 1, then we are 6:1.

I die, NK, leaves you at 4:1. You can no lynch for 2 days to try for 2:1 lylo on day 9.

So, maybe it's best that each person state whether they think it's a 1 or 2 scum game.

I think it's a two scum game but I don't see why we would no lynch in a possible 4:1 scenario anyway. Throwing away a lynch to let scum kill twice is a bizarre idea.

[Titus]

I am fine with a hammer here.

[zMuffinMan]

The bolded in particular is a red flag. Actually, I don't like the whole post, but that part in particular, pings.

i had the same thoughts about this, but was going to wait to see how he elaborated on it before i said anything about it. :/

[zMuffinMan]

also fine with hammer whenever.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: p5

[4nxi3ty]

PeregrineV (4) - zMuffinMan, Baezu, Titus, BROseidon

Mac (1) - Kalimar
Baezu (2) - Mac, PeregrineV

Not voting (0) -

[4nxi3ty]

"Where is Midnight?!" Death huffed at the diners.

They merely exchanged confused glances.

Death wasn't going to be fooled by them."One of you must have done something!"

Death puffed.

"I will blow this diner down if I have to..."

Charon jumped in between, "They haven't done anything. Although they did accidentally kill another zombie." Charon turned towards the diners, "You probably shouldn't have done--"

"How do you

accidentally

murder someone?" Death said.

Charon, gently removing Death back to the kitchen, said, "It happens. Besides, haven't you noticed? Another force is at work here. Their actions are being influenced."

Death shrugged, unaware of what Charon was getting at.

PeregrineV,

Vanilla Zombie

, of the

Diners

(expired on 2013-10-05 09:40:26)

[4nxi3ty]

Soft, furry footsteps padded along the tiles. The shadow watched the mutt pass along silently in the night, and thinking, as shadows sometimes do, that it was a nice time for a snack. A tasty cherry atop this chaos sundae.

***

Death was distraught on a stool, "I am lost here. This was meant to be simple. Easy."

Charon hated consoling, but who else was going to do it?

You don't make a lot of friends when you're busy reaping.

Charon placed a hand on Death's bone-sharp shoulder.

"I don't know," Death said. "I thought I could find peace here... you know, the odd thing is... supervising souls was less demanding than this. Not to mention corporeal bodies are way messier."

***

As Midnight raced through the diner, weaving through hollow chair legs and sleepers, the shadow followed behind. The shadow was getting closer and closer. It glided, thick and thin, across the night, ready to sate its appetite.

Just as the shadow was about to reach Midnight a light still on halted its progress. The shadow retreated at the sight of the skeleton. Disappointed, the shadow left, but it did not matter, the shadow wouldn't be hungry anymore. Soon enough.

BROseidon,

Sgt. CoughsCoffee

, of the

Diners

(cop of questionable sanity)

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
(expired on 2013-10-19 10:40:01)

[zMuffinMan]

@mac,

expand on what you meant in #3798 and give any other thoughts you currently have on the game

@baezu,

who do you currently think is scum and why?

[zMuffinMan]

@titus,

do you still think kalimar is likely scum? do you still think baezu is likely town?

@kalimar,

thoughts on the possibility of a baezu-mac team?

[Titus]

My order of preferred lynches

Mac Kalimar
Zmuffin
Baezu


Answered?

There is no way Baezu is scum with the counterwagon day 1.

[zMuffinMan]

ok. if it weren't for the 'counter-wagon', what would you think of baezu?

also, are you aware that in order for it to make sense as a 'counter-wagon', it would have to be scum driven?

[Titus]

Amrun was scum. Amrun was driving Baezu. Baezu was the counter to Zoidberg. If not for the counterwagon is a harder question and one I don't feel compelled to answer.

[Titus]

VOTE: Mac

If it is not Mac, it's Kalimar.

[zMuffinMan]

no, i mean you're messing up the timeline a bit, here. the baezu wagon happened. he was at L-1. then the wagon dissolved and the zoidberg wagon formed. we know that wagon to be town-driven (at the very least, the first 5 slots on it were town from your PoV). so baezu wasn't counter to zoidberg, zoidberg was counter to baezu and was town-driven. yeah, amrun was pushing the baezu wagon, and that's a point in baezu's favour (i talked about that a bit yesterday), but the gamestate is such that i think it's silly to rule out the possibility baezu is scum. you're the one i feel is most likely town at the moment, and i'd prefer you help me figure out the game. at the very least, consider the possibility that you're wrong about baezu.