Open 533: Pick Your Poison - The End

[Hot Cheetos]

VOTE: egg

vote today!

[Hot Cheetos]

I am trying to catch up on work today as I have been sick. Will have more time tomorrow

[Hot Cheetos]

Vote: Banakai

NicCage is town.
Eagle is town.
NS is town.
mnem is town.

[Hot Cheetos]

Probably IC, 2-shot Vig, and Tracker.

If scum picked any other roles, they probably fucked up.

[Hot Cheetos]

Can you tell me why you are voting Banakai?

Read his iso and you tell me

[Hot Cheetos]

I was lieing about being IC,
Pretty sure notscience was too

Still not liking Nic. He's over reacting abit and he still hasn't said why he's calling that post "WIFOM"

Nic is town. This is weak reasoning.

The whole cc was stupid. Backing out of it was stupider and then making a joke about town being the only ones to joke in RVS takes the cake.

[Hot Cheetos]

Can you tell me why you are voting Banakai?

I hated his counterclaim and subsequent role-fishing.

Hot Cheetos are you a hydra

Yes. Now identify this head.

When should our 1-shot use his/her night action?

Immediately before they die so that their ability is not wasted? Which means N1.
Or wait until there are clearer scum suspects? Which means N3.

All limited power roles should use their power immediately.

Got an . Team NicCage, Hot Cheetos and notscience.

The scumread on notscience surprises me.

[Hot Cheetos]

No, I mean that they shouldn't hold their shots for any reason.

[Hot Cheetos]

One-shot cop claiming day 2 is kind of a gotcha, though.

[Hot Cheetos]

Maybe we should vote who to lynch, kill and investigate!

I wouldn't mind directing the vig.
Directing the cop/tracker is problematic since mafia can dodge the tracker.

[Hot Cheetos]

What are your thoughts on beast NS?

[Hot Cheetos]

Guys, we should be voting hermy.

Why?

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Eh I guess nothing really happened accept a bunch of bickering

Anyways I have more scum reads now:

Nic cage
cheeto
and yellowkingvalley

Happy where my vote is. This post is a whole bunch of nothing.

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I can't really provide an example, since it's ongoing, but I can tell this is not town Nic.

If all of your examples are ongoing, you don't have a big enough meta base to analyze him.

Guys, we should be voting hermy.

Seems town. Why do you disagree?

lmfao what the real fuck is this

Did that above post really just happen

It was quite town when it did.

Nic cage
cheeto
and yellowkingvalley

Could us pegging you as scum be the reason we appeared on your scumlist?

[Hot Cheetos]

HURT: Venrob

There is our vote for kill target.

[Hot Cheetos]

Is your new meta being completely useless? There was literally no point in your last two posts so you are just mucking up the thread.

VOTE: YellowKingValley

I can just feel that you are scum.

Eh I guess nothing really happened accept a bunch of bickering

Anyways I have more scum reads now:

Nic cage
cheeto
and yellowkingvalley

I have found my two scum. There we go!

VOTE: beast

why not vote banakai with me?

[Hot Cheetos]

Why did that look quite town?

Frustration/confidence seems genuine. I doubt there's a scumplayer in the world who is not confident enough to fake reads and scumhunting, but is confident enough to make a "this is why I'm town" post like that.

[Hot Cheetos]

Top 3 scum: banakai venrob beast

top 3 town: ns mnem baldeagle

[Hot Cheetos]

Fuck!

Well, I guess scum got what they wanted

Sorry nic. Would have loved to keep playing with you...

Jump on the banakai wagon for towncred

[Hot Cheetos]

Stahp! Vote Cheetos!

"Vote Banakai for towncred"
(Everyone sheeps)

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!

you a scum partner Venrob?

I've been voting ban since p1

HURT: Venrob

[Hot Cheetos]

He's a liar.

What makes you so convinced he's a liar?

[Hot Cheetos]

Actually his paranoia is seeming quite town to me

[Hot Cheetos]

Any info from it?

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notscience, cut this out. Lynching a cop innocent is probably the worst move that we could possibly make (outside of lynching the one-shot cop). Stop it, please.

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If this is for real, prove it. If it's fake, it's dumb.

Why did you want ns to prove it so early when he could prove it whenever the hell he felt like it?

Other than that, the IC claims are probably both liars. (by that I OBVIOUSLY mean I'm mafia and we didn't pick IC)

What did you actually mean by that and why was it worthy of comment?

I think that we should lynch between the two people who claimed innocent townie, the odds of getting scum are higher there. Whoever is innocent townie should help us by claiming, so we have a confirmed scum.

Why would you say this when the claims weren't serious? I also don't remember you pushing either of them or even throwing down a vote on either

Bald is obvscum for saying "serious vote", because whenever any1 says that they end up bein scum.

This reasoning is horrible.

Also; check my meta. I hate day 1. I hate it. I like having dead people; it gives info. Analysis. Until something really jumps out at me on day 1, I'm stuck with nothing; and hook onto even the littlest thing, such as bald saying "serious vote".

I don't think I have anything useful to say, that hasn't been said by somebody already.

Yeah, this sucked.

Hot Cheetos are you a hydra

We're a Nachomamma8/Baezu hydra, for the record.

Nic claiming he thought the IC was "Inexperienced Challenged" is terrible because Innocent Child

is a role mentioned in the Mod posts.

But does it make him more likely to be scum?

Oh, hi. I've been keeping track and didn't even realize i was due for a prod..... Wow, I've been reading daily....

Just nothing really to say other than I hate day 1. Nothing has jumped out to me as something to pursue and or comment on.... So... *goes back into the shadows*

"I hate D1, I hate D1, I hate D1"
Don't are how much you hate D1, there's absolutely no reason that you should be putting so little content into the thread.

Killing me is not smart; not n1 at least. As I have mentioned countless times i hate day 1. When I first learned mafia, the standard for games was NIGHT START. I grew very accustomed to this, and my playstyle revolves around night having already happened. If you must meta me, go ahead and you will see that I have said in almost all of my games how I hate day 1. Games with special mechanics might be different as the mechanics are a topic of discussion, and thus i was never called out for inactivity and/or prodded.

Note that this is opportunism + entirely OMGUS.

Well whatever, I hate day 1's. And i was by no means chainsawing Bana. In fact,

Intent to hammer Banakai.

Will allow some time to discuss.

And here's more opportunism, followed by a scum trying to act protown bit at the end.

He claimed to be a 1-shot cop and that used his one shot on YKV. As much as I'd prefer to lynch YKV just for being extremely transparently scummy, If there's even the chance he's not, and he's some other PR, I think it's better to test this by lynching nic. If he flips town 1-shot cop, then we know YKV is town, and we'll be even stronger going into D3. If nic flips scum, then we lynch YKV D3 for wins. However, lynching YKV today is a bad idea because while it may clear or damn nic, we run the risk of losing something potentially useful. This is the way to go.

This is horrible without 4 PRs claimed, and even more horrible because Nic is strongly town. This is especially horrible when there are 5 roles to choose from, and there was no vig shot from last night.

[Hot Cheetos]

Vote: beastcharizard

This vote strikes me as fantastic.

[Hot Cheetos]

Town as fuck, I talked about that earlier w/NS.

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Reasons why I'm town:

VOTE: NicCage

Why do you go pull your scumpartner out for something, and then not vote for him?

Useful post early on

I know I've got a while until a prod, but I feel like dodging it now

I don't think I have anything useful to say, that hasn't been said by somebody already.

This was a terrible, terrible post. I fully acknowledge that. I was feeling pretty irritated and lazy at the time, and I wanted to avoid a prod.

VOTE: Hermy

This looks very much like a forced newbie tell to get people to take it easy on her.

I have no intention to post any newbie tells. I've played many games off-site, and I don't classify myself as a newbie. (I don't classify myself as a master/veteran either though)

I have explained this, ns. Why else am I scum?

I counter claim IC

I was lieing about being IC,
Pretty sure notscience was too

Still not liking Nic. He's over reacting abit and he still hasn't said why he's calling that post "WIFOM"

Is this scum claiming IC and then taking it back when trouble comes? Hmm...

In general, I haven't seen very many super-helpful posts. Just a few.

I've discussed both IC claims, Beast.

This post.

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Why did that look quite town?

Frustration/confidence seems genuine. I doubt there's a scumplayer in the world who is not confident enough to fake reads and scumhunting, but is confident enough to make a "this is why I'm town" post like that.

[Hot Cheetos]

Oh hey I know both of you
Say Bae, did you townread me on your own?

Yes. I did

[Hot Cheetos]

I don't think massclaim is necessary.

[Hot Cheetos]

I do shit, but if there's a some moron who threatens town's chances of winning, it's only logical to remove them.

Unless they happen to be confirmed town. It's not that difficult to ignore people, you know.

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@HC:
Can you explain your vote on me when in your previous post you called Venrob scum?

ETL is a good lynch for today. I don't think Nic or YKV are scum thus I don't want to lynch them. ETL is trying to direct potential town PRs which is in no way helpful.

You're both scum.

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Actually, I give up for today. Have fun guys. We're going to lose because no one is willing to trust me.

I'm not willing to lynch a claimed PR or a claimed PR innocent based on "trust", sorry.

[Hot Cheetos]

I don't think Egg is scum ns.
I think ^^that^^ is scum.

[Hot Cheetos]

#505 was pretty impressive forced rage if faked.

[Hot Cheetos]

Why can't we vote Venrob? Why do you think he's town?

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Fuck this town is stupid. And I thought notscience at least had potential. Guess I was wrong there.

lol

I do shit, but if there's a some moron who threatens town's chances of winning, it's only logical to remove them.

Nic, I believe you. I don't particularly care to have YKV alive tomorrow to fuck up lylo (assuming we lynch town today, which is where the HC wagon seems to be heading)

Nachobaezu, I said I was open to FRing him too.

No that's a bad idea, even if the other player is annoying.
I remember yesterday you said that HC's point about Hermy being town was something you would consider. Today you started with voting Hermy. I take it you don't buy into HC's reasoning, or you think the weight of evidence is on the other side of the scale.
Is there something wrong with HC's reasoning?
Why do you think Hermy is scum?
Why aren't you trying to convince anyone to vote Hermy?

Oh hey I know both of you
Say Bae, did you townread me on your own?

Yes. I did

Why? I'm not playing anything like the game we were in together.

It's not your playstyle it's what you said. You have been saying things that make sense and you haven't raised any red flags for me.

[Hot Cheetos]

Third is a tougher one... YES being quiet makes him a good scum candidate but inconclusive atm. The other possibility is mnem.

[Hot Cheetos]

Beast stop being so vague.
YESYESYES you need some fresh reads. Also calm your titties, we're gonna catch on that you want to look town if you yell too loud.

^^LMAO

[Hot Cheetos]

why the fuck is notscience, the towniest person this game right now (except for NIC who you all just tried to wagon) at L-1

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NachoBaezu, read this post. This is the most contrived scumread ever. How the fuck are you townreading this

THIS IS HOW HERMY SOUNDS

Hermy/Egg/ETL scumteam.

Nachobaezu, why don't you see them as plausible?

Hermy's a horrible scumread because Hermy's incredibly genuine.
Egg is the least bad of your scumreads, but still seems town.
ETL scum because of the hard push on the claimed cop? No, that read genuine as fuck as well.

unvote, vote notscience

L-1. Hopefully it's scum.

This vote switch was terrible.

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Why is YKV also not up there is towniest person since they should be confirmed town to you if NC is town?

Sorry, I was exaggerating.

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Vote: Venrob

notscience, bc, sheep me.

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No. In fact?

Vote: YES YES YES

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No. Sheep me.

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Nic's first post in the game was terrible. No RVS vote over something he called "anti-town" is

bad. It seems like he's trying to dissociate himself from a wagon.

Attacking someone for not RVSing anti-town is stupid.

In fact, baldeagle's "Why didn't you vote

for obvscvum" is a town cred fish because he ALSO called Nic Sdcum earlier.

This sucks and doesn't actually make any sense.

Nic claiming he thought the IC was "Inexperienced Challenged" is terrible because Innocent Child

is a role mentioned in the Mod posts.

What does this have to do with anything?

Now I don't like beast's posts. They look like fake contribution.

Another weak observation, doesn't say much at all.

Scum reads:
Nic
Baldeagle
YKV
beast
Hermy

There's also the matter of him having approximately 0 town reads, which sucks a lot.

No. Nobody is lynching YKV OR nic without a massclaim.

On that note, ETL is probs town because no scum would brazenly advocate the lynch on a potential clear.

Why didnt nic die? Idk, maybe scum picked JK? Maybe they wanted WIFOM and make us think he isn't cop?

So, again. Without a massclaim, lets not lynch those two people

Screaming correctly that Nic or YKV should be lynched without a massclaim is good, but tossing suspicion on them in the middle of the post was weird.

[quote="In post 179
Scum reads:
Nic
Baldeagle
YKV
beast
Hermy

Or maybe its because i scum read you day 1[/quote]
and not making an effort to reanalyze any of these were scummy as fuck, especially when he's trying to explain bc's suspicion of him as a type of delayed OMGUS

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Actually nah, I just don't trust their judgment on Egg here.

I'm not sure I entirely trust my judgement on Egg. But, if you voted YES YES YES with me, it'd be pretty awesome.

I'm still suspicious of Nic/YKV, and especially YKV's behavior; it really, really, really fucking bothers me.

That's fine! You're probably wrong about both of them, though.

NS is so off his town game right now it is fucking killing me that we have not lynched him yet.

Oh? This is a meta case? I haven't seen any good justification on that front.

HEy ns, can we stop using the excuse of "meta shifting"
I've never actually seen you do it. You always come off as trolly to me.

No response to the case, DDBP?

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[quote="In post 656, notscience"]Someone hammer me, I'm done with these fucking morons.

YKV, you've just made yourself that moronic conftown that no scum in their right mind would kill.

AND BECAUSE YOURE ALL SO FUCKING DAFT HERE IS THE SCUMTEAM

HERMY

EGG

ETL

What are your opinions on Venrob?

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Irrelevant but I think I have more experience than Nacho.

Are you an alt?

You don't PL the cop's inno.... Not until the cop dies and flips not cop..... ns..... omg that's 2 scumspects.......... brain can't handle this much scummyness.............. Can i vote both? I'd like to. If we have a vig who either saved his shot or was jailkept (or target was jailkept), then vig should shoot the one of HC/ns that we don't lynch.

NOW FUCKING WAGON ON HC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You never actually explained why you wanted a wagon on us.

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Could you please vote YES YES YES so we can at least prod him to do something and start a counterwagon to the carnival of lunacy that you're currently dealing with?

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WHY IS EVERYONE IGNORING THE FACT THAT YES YES YES ONLY COMES IN TO TALK WHEN BEETLEJUICED?

his play has been so anti town. Honestly I'd rather lynch mnem as a PL because he has a better chance flipping scum than NS.

Please everyone think about this scum are just coasting through this game. You need to evaluate everyone equally and not just sheep and wagon on people. This is how scum win

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I think the reason NS hasn't been hammered yet is because all the scum is on his wagon

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I'd be willing to vote hermy to avoid a NL

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That's one scumfuck down.

For those keeping score at home, that's 1 for nostci, 0 for YKV.

Nachobaezu, you thinking ETL or Venrob?

Not ETL. BS200 recognized the proper picks for this setup and sounded very confident about them; he's not scum.

Vote: Venrob

Venrob/Hermy/PHD makes most sense to me. What do you think, NS?

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So many little towntells? Like what?

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The first is null, and the second is not a town move in the slightest, town would never (or at least should never) point out PR possibilities. Scum worried about being lynched would as a hint to his team mates though.

Should never doesn't mean would never.

it's a reason to vote Egg who is being unimaginably scummy.

Why is he being unimaginably scummy?

So, fellow members of the townbloc.

ETL, Venrob, or PhD today?

I probably won't vote ETL today. I'll vote Venrob or PhD though!

How do you not get this? I don't exactly have a problem with these players but since there is a chance all of them could still be scum a bloc is a stupid plan. I don't have an issue with you reads I have an issue with the fact you want to do a town bloc.

What happens if there's scum in the bloc that's so horrible?

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Sort of prod dodge, barely any time to get on right now as dinner plus a movie with dad in like under a minute, but well post.

Just for the sake of saying something pertinent to the game:
HC IS SCUMZ GAIZ LYNCH HIM NAOW

Why has this guy not been lynched yet?

[Hot Cheetos]

He had his day 1 excuse. Ok. Day 2 we had other priorities. Ok. But now it's day 3. How many more days are we going to allow him to keep coasting through this game?

[Hot Cheetos]

BAEZU
MY LAPTOP WAS STOLEN SORRY FOR DISAPPEARING AND NOT TELLING YOU
I AM A HORRIBLE HYDRA PARTNER

[Hot Cheetos]

i forget about this game a lot

[Hot Cheetos]

I'm mostly apologizing to baezu not u

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Egg, the reason why "lack of content" is a decent case on Venrob is because of the gamestate and the towniness of others. Nic and YKV are town in their own rights + the addition of the claims, NS is incredibly and horribly town, ditto ETL (mostly), you've guided this town through a lot of insanity so far in a way that I don't quite see you doing as scum and NS is vouching for BC which I can buy at the moment.

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A lot of his play is strange for scum, sure, but I think that's due to playstyle more than alignment.
I would also be extremely happy lynching PhD, if you feel more comfortable going there.

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Lack of content in decreasing order (from yesterday)
1) beastcharizard
2) Hermy (dead)
3) Venrob
4) YesYesYes (dead)
5) PhDScar

If "lack of content" is HC's criteria for allocating scum slots then his lack of suspicion on Hermy yesterday (instead going for Venrob, YesYesYes and mnem/PhDScar) is suspicious. Not going for beast only because NS said so? Hmm...

By the way, HC's scum suspects are people who suspected him, eg. Venrob and YesYesYes. Oh me? NC D1 and NS D2. So no.

Your first problem is that isn't my criteria
Your second is that I explained why hermy over others.
Your third is the omgus accusations, which require a certain timeline that hasn't happened here.

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BAEZU
MY LAPTOP WAS STOLEN SORRY FOR DISAPPEARING AND NOT TELLING YOU
I AM A HORRIBLE HYDRA PARTNER

Sorry to hear about your laptop Nacho.

Hope you're able to get another one. That sucks.

Given the circumstances, all is forgiven. You are a great hydra partner. I've already learned so much!

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Ok so the case on Venrob is more PoE than lack of content. Why not PhD if you have ETL as town? I still see some towniness in Venrob.

Yellow, that's seriously like the worst case ever.

Now it's looking like phd was town. Earlier I didn't want to vote there to vindicate my earlier scum read of venrob.

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oh cool, this game is an example of hot NOT to townbloc

i can almost guarantee there's at least 1 scum in the "townbloc"

Who? Don't say me because you really really really can't read me.

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Two days is plenty of time to get a different wagon going. A flash wagon to me is with in 12 hours of deadline. We were quadrople that time frame. And that is just when NS was at L-1. Pushing wagons you believe in is the point of this game.

VOTE: ETL

You are buddying way to hard right now.

I am willing to 1v1 ETL at this point. Their buddying is strong. They attempt to direct PRs. They weren't on the Hermy lynch but were on the NS wagon.

This is a townie thing to say.

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Who? Don't say me because you really really really can't read me.

What? Whether this is Nacho or Baezu, do I have a history of misreading either of you?

This is a townie thing to say.

lulululululululzllllzzzllzulzlzlzulzzzz

Who's scum, HC?

-shot me as demon core in mini normal
-Xenogears
-lucky game although I totally misred you there too

Yeah a little bit.

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Scum is venrob + one of bc/etl, it seems.

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I vote the person whom I think is the scummiest. It wasn't in compromise territory yet so I am going to try to get my strongest scum read lynched.

...and BC continues to ignore the most important aspect of the scenario, which is that THE PERSON HE ABSOLUTELY INSISTS IS TOWN IS ABOUT TO GET LYNCHED.

But it didn't matter because, you know, BC is just

that

principled.

not buying it, not seeing how anyone else is buying it or construing it as "town" (HC)

The town part was where he offered to 1v1 you.

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-shot me as demon core in mini normal
-Xenogears
-lucky game although I totally misred you there too

Yeah a little bit.

Xenogears was more of a lazy default than me actually thinking you were scum
lucky game was just a complete sack of asshole for me

So I misread you sometimes, but I don't other times (Enemy of my Enemy, StrangerCoug's Dungeon), that's no reason to completely discredit me

Enemy of my enemy mollie was town as fuck.
Coug's dungeon may be the game I replaced in as pretty much dead scum

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I don't want to discredit you no.
But I will give you shit
Because you can't read me very well

[Hot Cheetos]

BC, claim!

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ETL disagrees with you

nacho probably does too

They drink from pools of stagnant water. But not I.

I don't believe you.

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Thinking the last scum is Venrob but Nic could have pulled one over on us with the one shot cop claim. His vote on us straight out of the gate was incredibly scummy. How did his reads on us change so rapidly? No reason was given for why we are now a possibility.

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15 minutes to post a case on Venrob and lynch our only scum in the game?
Challenge accepted.

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Baezu, Nic's push on us is bad but not scummy.

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VOTE: YKV
For reasons.

Also fucking hell I REALLY WANTED TO BE MAF IN THIS SETUP!!!

Sometimes things sound really really fake, and they are. This is an example of such a thing.

Other than that, the IC claims are probably both liars. (by that I OBVIOUSLY mean I'm mafia and we didn't pick IC)

Speculating on the alignment of the IC claims would be fine. Speculating on the truthfulness of them, well. That's a problem.

Bald is obvscum for saying "serious vote", because whenever any1 says that they end up bein scum.

This is why Venrob was tunneling on eagle, by the way. I can't see town coming up with and believing in this reasoning at all.

Also; check my meta. I hate day 1. I hate it. I like having dead people; it gives info. Analysis. Until something really jumps out at me on day 1, I'm stuck with nothing; and hook onto even the littlest thing, such as bald saying "serious vote".

He's discrediting his own push; this is bad because it prevents him for taking responsibility of his vote + being aware that he has nothing on eagle wasn't consistent with the strength of his push.

Oh, hi. I've been keeping track and didn't even realize i was due for a prod..... Wow, I've been reading daily....

Just nothing really to say other than I hate day 1. Nothing has jumped out to me as something to pursue and or comment on.... So... *goes back into the shadows*

Before he found someone saying "serious vote". Now, later in the day, he can't find anything? Why did he stop pushing eagle?
Mysteries the world will never discover.

Killing me is not smart; not n1 at least. As I have mentioned countless times i hate day 1. When I first learned mafia, the standard for games was NIGHT START. I grew very accustomed to this, and my playstyle revolves around night having already happened. If you must meta me, go ahead and you will see that I have said in almost all of my games how I hate day 1. Games with special mechanics might be different as the mechanics are a topic of discussion, and thus i was never called out for inactivity and/or prodded.

I'm sure that his push on us based entirely on how we're pushing him comes from a town mindset. I'm sure of it.

VOTE: NicCage
No more waiting for votecounts.

Random hop on Nic makes no sense considering his conviction on us.

Yes, that is what I do; for day 1 and day 1 only. Killing me off before another day comes is not nice; it means I don't get a chance to contribute. Might as well make it nightstart and kill me n1.

The only reason he can give for keeping him alive beyond Day 1 is that it's "not nice". But it's Day 4 now. Do you remember any contributions from Venrob by now? I sure as hell don't.

Unexplained bana vote. We now know bana was town. Town on NicCage and ns, do note. Also mnem and the dead Eagle.

Criticizes us for a Bana vote when he was also on Bana.

Distancing from the scum team in general, with exception that if he is scum those are the roles. Meaning if he is scum he is scum with Nic. Of course distancing, so if he is that's probably not the chosen team.

Last time I played scum in Pick Your Poison, I chose those roles because those are optimal roles. Proof.

Hmmm.... Scum contributing to the vig's decision at shooting? Seems.... A bit OP if the vig had townread on them.

He agreed to vig directing without any qualms on Day 1.

No, vig is 2-shot.

@YKV for the post about hermy/HC: Well i've been saying HC is scum this whole time..... If he isn't he's just laying like a total idiot. So VOTE: HC since a "confirmed town" is with me on this. (quotes because nic can be scum aswell still. Given if nic is scum, then YKV is town as that makes it Hermy/HC/Nic.... So YKV is conftown.)

Only votes when he has support to do so. I'll also note how the day before left him not ending up on even mentioning the Hermy push until Hermy was CC'ed; no real position on her beforehand, either.

Sorry, was kinda busy with school and homework and stuff... i forget if i mentioned in this thread or in the C9++ i finished recently, but I'm at a tech school which means much homework because the academic work is crammed to fit 2 days of work into one day. Anyways, seeing that BC is looking a bit scummy and has claimed VT, that means he is probably town, unless the last remaining PR is Innocent Child (which is uncc'able, thus he had no choice but to claim VT.)

Considering the other possibility of him just being dumb scum if we don't have IC, or we have IC so he couldnt claim anything but VT, I think i'm gonna.....

VOTE: BeastCharizard

Late hammer, as per the usual. There's literally no logic in this gammer at all; it's just a late attempt at snagging towncred.

[Hot Cheetos]

Why do you think we're scum?

[Hot Cheetos]

And who do you think is scum if you're not allowed one of {Hot Cheetos, Venrob} in that assertion?

[Hot Cheetos]

Vote: Venrob

fucking vote him them anti
we have 7 alive
with a very powerful townblock in IC, ns, Nic + YKV

lynch him
then lynch me
then lynch the person alive who is not IC, NS, Nic, or YKV.

[Hot Cheetos]

wait lol i'm an idiot

townblock of IC, ns, Nic, Antihero/ETL

[Hot Cheetos]

IC is the shittiest role available; of course town has one.

[Hot Cheetos]

IC is unknown. And asking is fishing. If not for cheetos being scum, i'd call that scummy. Well it is scummy, but it doesnt make you scum.

this doesn't make sense
but hey, let's play along. where did i ask for the IC to claim again?

i am a vt

[Hot Cheetos]

no, claim when you get into the thread.

[Hot Cheetos]

popcorn offers no advantage when scum know all of the roles that will be claimed.