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VOTE: bulbazak

Counter wagon a go go.

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Big Balls, you disappoint me.

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You could always vote your scum buddy, Tier.

Or we could just all vote you.

Who knows? The world is our oyster!

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What don't I got.

And I am already voting you, so there's that.

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Big Balls, what is up with the ignoring of Bulbazak?

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But......you are on the big wagon?

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Second place is first loser.......meaning less likely not scum.......meaning stuffed crust isn't as scum as bulbazak.......meaning vote bulbazak.

Don't make me take drastic measures Big Balls.

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Big Balls is a smart man for sheeping me, smarter than he knows actually.

Why the hate on BB, tier?

Pre Edit: Oh, I kind of get the hate now.

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I appreciate your timely vote counts update Bo, you are a credit to our entire organization.

Also, a wagon with myself and Balls on it is a wagon for the people. Join us.

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So much hate, tier.

It can all be forgiven with a vote on bulbazak though.

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Have I been scum in a game with you Balls?

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Just couldn't think of a game where I was scum in a game with you, just verifying.

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Sorry about that, didn't realize so much time had passed. Will try to get to this later tonight.

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So your motivation for saying that I am either scum or a pr is simply self preservation? Am I understanding this correctly?

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Ok, I don't get any town motivation out of that.......but ok.

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Do you think you enough pull that scum would believe you? I seriously doubt they will drastically change how they play based off of one person's reads.

Which again is why I question the town motivation of saying there is a good chance that someone is a pr.

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Actually in the interest of defending myself, I would be less likely to lurk as scum.....I have too much fun playing as scum(I know iknow, self meta is stupid.but I am just saying).

Something is rubbing me the wrong way about BB. Scouts honor I will do a quick read through of this game, I am starting to find out that Mon through Thursday I will be essentially v/la, more towards the la though.

Plus I am snowed in, so what else do I have to do.

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Bulba, my 'hard on' for you was more random than anything, with a bit of reaction testing and all of that. The fact that you are throwing me in the 'probably scum' pile is troubling. Don't you think it is possible that I just haven't been around much the last few days? Are you afraid of me?

And about BB, the back of my mind is telling me he is bidding. Much prefer votes on Bulba for now though, rather use brain than gut right now tbh.

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Bidding = bussing

Spelling mistakes are such a town tell.

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His reaction to my vote was initially much more calm, he knew it was early and didn't have to worry about it. Now as time has gone on and he still has two votes on him, from two players who have been fairly inactive and theoretically will not be around to remove their votes, he starts attack said players to make them look bad.

He is honestly afraid of being lynched(generally speaking scum are more afraid of this), so he is projecting suspicion and doubt on to me.probably since he feels I won't be around much to defend myself.

*drops mic*

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Stuffed, it is one thing to be at L-1 and to get defensive, but he only had a couple votes and his reaction was to crank up the omgus to eleven. Imo that doesn't come from a town mindset.

And I figured out what is really bothering me about big balls, he seems all out of sorts here. It is almost to a point where is appearing aloof on purpose.

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You seem out of sorts, your faux pas of referring to an ongoing game is a big part of what I am talking about. Maybe aloof was the wrong choice of words, but you just seem different from other games I have played with you when you were town. And no I don't have many other specifics to cite, just your general vibe you have going this game, I can't shake it.

Mark my words, this BB boy ain't right.

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No, I already stated I would rather vote with brain rather than gut. Are you just using my gut suspicion to further a BB wagon?

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Hello pot, meet kettle.

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I do agree with Bulba about that, wanting a town read gone is more likely coming from a town mindset. That is a bit of a gambit coming from scum.

Also bulba, why am I more than just a liability and what is scummy about me? Not trying to be defensive, but I missed that part.

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Explain me attacking my attackers.

I rvs voted you, I poked BB a bit, I was away from this site for a bit, I came back and kept vote on you for reasons I stated, I said BB seems off to me.

Specifically point out where I 'attacked' anybody besides pointing out why I think you are scum.

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Also, it was a rvs vote......initially it meant nothing. Why are you insisting on a reason for an rvs vote? Why did you vet so worried about it? It didn't mean anything until you made it mean something. You asking for a reason seems like a person never playing mafia before.

So are you scum or a newbie?

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Scum.could pretend to have town reads, and than obviously not go out of there way to lynch them. Not sure why you can't follow that.

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Bulba, how was anything I said about BB 'low'? I simply said I had a gut read on him and he is acting different than games I have played with him, he even admitted that he may be coming off as different. I even said I don't want to vote him even when prodded by another player to do so. I am not sure of you definition of attacking, but explain how I array him.

And my vote on you was rvs, I already answered that it was rvs, do I need to say it was rvs again, well I will.....it was rvs. It was reaction testing of you and BB, bb was the only person I have played multiple games with here so I wanted to test him. You were random, and how you have reacted since then has made me realize my vote has turned to something more than random. And only one of us getting defensive........again Mr. Pot I will introduce you to a friend of mine, Mr. Kettle.

But please, continue to misrep.

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I will go one on one to lynch bulba, hell I will sacrifice myself if you guys promise to lynch him as well.

Also, I might as well state intent to hammer. Seriously doubt my wishes would come through today and as stated obs latest post it just too terrible.

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Ten days? I will hold off with a hammer then.

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With the site going down hopefully I can get to this game today, if not then tomorrow.

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In the interest of making something happen, I may hammer earlier then that. I believe a gave an intent to hammer a few days ago.

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Yes, vote.me......when bulba is still out there.

VOTE: bulba

Can there be a third party in this set up? I feel as if big balls reeks of it.

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Well that makes sense.........BB would be the one to protect.

*tumbleweed*

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I will say it once again, if it takes me being lynched to lynch bulba.....so be it.


I have no power anyways.

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I kind of want to know what case on me is all about? Just something quick that gives us a general gist about why I the scummiest compared to others.

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I am getting new brakes put on right now so I have some time, also good I won't cause a manor accident now because my brakes fail on the highway heh.

As I had said my vote on bulbazak was initially rvs, than it quickly turned to a real vote. And yes I funneled, if I feel I have caught scum on Day 1 I tend to do that, so then if I do happen to die(which appears may happen soon) at least there is something to go on. Should have I backed off when he claimed? Probably yes, but this doesn't fully clear him(though best to not push his lynch at this moment). Frankly I still think my first instinct is correct.

As for Big Balls, I was poking and prodding him since he was the only other player I have remembered playing with, imo easiest to get reads on someone you are familiar with. I am leaning he is not scum though and will just leave it at that.

I will be honest and say that everybody is very muddy for me, I do think there are a few using my low activity as a possible lynch(silver bard I am looking in your direction)........seems a bit like the lynch of obscurity. As I write thing I think there may be something there. I may go compare the voting patterns of both days.

Also, we still have over two weeks until deadline so no need to push a quick lynch right now considering how with the site crash Day 1 was a bit of a loss.

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UNVOTE:

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Thanks guys for twisting what I said.

I still don't trust bulbazak, but as I said with his claim it is stupid to push for his lynch. Are you saying I should continue to push his lynch?

And I want the day to continue because we still have more than two weeks until deadline. Why do you two want to push a quicklynch?

And I am not comparing myself to obs, I am comparing the situations that lead to his lynch and are leading to mine.

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So why I am getting shit for not trusting bulba and Bard really isn't getting shit for it?

And yes, I am VT.

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I am not trying to drag him down, I am simply asking a question. You continue to twist what I say to fit you argument.

I thought I found scum in bulbazak, I tunneled, then when he made his claim and it was clear that pushing him at this point probably wasn't pro town I backed off, still don't trust him though. And now bard is also saying he trust him and is even going as far as making him more likely scum than not.

Just a simple question why this is being ignored yet I am being strung up for sharing the same belief.

Also I think my reads are pretty clear with my last few posts.

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I am trying, at the very least, to point out fallacies and inconsistencies before I die.

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God dammit, I had a post of reads that I accidentally deleted. Here is the abridged version.

Titus is scum, discredits me to make sure I am lynched instead of making sure scum is lynched. Doesn't it suck I am only a VT?

Bulbazak, still don't buy his claim. Can't do anything about it though, but at least do me the favor of kicking the tires on him.

Big Balls, I read him town but something is off about him, I have played with him and know him more than any of you. Maybe I just haven't played enough lately and he has changed on me......I dunno.

Bard, I apologivze since I over exaggerated your scum read on bulbazak. I was just more making the point that when you throw out the possibility that bulbazak is scum no wants to string you up the way I am being strung up and I am trying to point out the inconsistencies there that scum are showing. I actually read your recents posts as town and you are my strongest town read.

Everyone else is null to be honest, with a lynch on an mainly awol player and my forthcoming quicklynch it is tough to read people for me. Convenient I guess for some of you.

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VOTE: Titus, yes thank you for the reminder.

And as far as my null reads, sounds like a good time for a quick read through......I will get back to you.

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Leaving the bar right now(99 restaurant, anyone in the northeast?)

Will offer thoughts on your questions when I get home.

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Thanks for posting your reads. Does this mean your vote will be on Titus?

It doesn't have to be a quicklynch though. The more information we can get the better.

Some questions about those you got a null read on:

What do you think of SC's recent posts? Please elaborate.

How is CherryDrPepper's hydrodissonance reading to you? What do you think of their activity (today and in general)?

I got Titus and TierShift as the ones I find most scummy (after you). Is those two together a likely scumteam in your opinion? Why or why not?

Stuffeds recent posts seem like he realizes that he fucked up thinking I counter claimed, he seems to show genuine remorse for pushing my lynch and is even questioning why others now are pushing for my lynch. I don't see much scum motivation there since he could just let the mislynch happen(unless they picked up on me being vt, maybe they feel they can push another town counter wagon), but outside of that I am feeling town for them.

The Cherry hydra, sounds like a broken record. One head keeps telling the other head to lay off of Titus, and makes a point to keep mentioning it in the thread. Also is questioning why I am the major wagon, yet doesn't really do anything about it as far as pushing another wagon. The whole protecting Titus from one head makes think that cherry and Titus are not playing for the same team........could really see them as scum.

Reading tiershift they almost sounds like a hydra, they are almost the same player. Funny how tier acts like Titus is coaching when it appears that tier has been coaching Titus into a vote on me, and Titus has been following his lead and essentially copying his argument for my lynch. Good call, I could definitely see that scum team.

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I am more neutral on bulbazak, I just don't trust him and am weary of his claim because of his actions prior to it. I don't know if I should let it go, but my instincts say no. Maybe neutral leaning towards scum.

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Cherry, I meant that you have mentioned it multiple times in this game that you have mentioned it to you other head......whether in the game thread or in the qt.

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Fu why aren't you appealing to me at all

Why should I?

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Fu is still flailing. His most recent posts are still more complicated version of AtE equating in "lynch me and you'll be sorry". He's not doing any original scumhunting and is instead trying to throw suspicion on as many people as possible.

I.....uhh......what? And you wonder why I was convinced you were scum.

Please quote post of mine that equates to me threatening town with my own lynch. Also.....that doesn't even make sense.

To anybody that has played with bulba, does he normally have a scummy vibe about him?

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Oh lord, I deeply apologize Mod. Between the site going down again and new years I didn't realize it had been so long.

I still would prefer a Titus lynch, would multiple heads of a scum cherry hydra both lurk as scum?

I will get more into the game tomorrow.

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CherryDP needs to get in the game.
BBM, you can't just coast on your soft-conf status. If this place is dead, liven it up. It's not like people are going to wagon you. If anything, you can now take the biggest risks.
Titus, what -are- your reads?

Umm, what risks does BB have to take? For the most part only scum 'fear' being lynched. Maybe I am reading too much into this, but the way this is worded has me worried.

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I am not really implying anything, just my first reaction to it was 'wait a sec.....'. More of a stream of consciousness post, like I said I am sure it is nothing, but I just didn't like the wording.

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So sakura votes me after a bunch of lurking, ok. Also sure that isn't a hammer? I guess I just can't count.

Also bard, is that really a scum tell? Between work, new years, and the site going down I didn't have a lot of time for this. Trust me, I would be fighting much harder to stay alive as scum. But I guess a select few of you just don't care.

Just hammer me already if you haven't already. Also, please notice that wagons are contiu being pushed on less active players. Lynch all lurkers has always struck me as a scum tactic.

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Quit it tier, I am not appealing to emotion......I am as good as dead.

I am trying to stear the people who are telling the truth in the right direction.

I am town, obviously scum would say this I know, but I want people to look back at certain things.

Feels like most of my last posts have been swept under the rug.

If one of bulba or Titus isn't scum I will buy you all a beer.

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Also, for fucks sake people, and big balls knows this.

I never give up as scum.

At least I think he does.

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I didn't even have a chance for a defense, as soon as the day started I was basically strung up. Don't you think pushing so quickly for a lynch is scummy?

Tier, do me a favor and.play devils advocate. When I flip town who in your eyes will look the worst?

Outside of yourself I mean......

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I know I said I don't trust him, but the way it appears to be played out seeing bulbazak as scum is probably unlikely.

I am.basically back at square one here heh.

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So I am the only one who thought Titus was obv scum? Good though, now I don't have to buy any of you a beer

Seriously though, I wish I had more time when the heat wad starting to pour down on me, I feel.as if I let the town down buy not having the time to display a proper case on Titus.

Also, stop being so scummy bulba. And Big Balls, you were just the same big balls all along.....I guess I was the one who was different

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Holy typos, I used to be able to hold my liquor and still type on my phone.

Also, well played scum, you deserved this victory.

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Felt like you were tunneling me in a way, everything I said and did you found a way to make it seem like it was coming from a scum perspective. Honestly I think that says a lot to how well you played as scum, only I was able to pick up on it since only I knew I was coming from a townie mindset.

The onus is on me for not being able to find the time to put together a good case on you, but even though I may have been buried too deep. You played well as scum.

Next time though you won't be so lucky

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Jeez, still twisting my words to your liking are we?

Titus was scum, ergo one of them was scum.......no beer for you !