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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:54 am

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VOTE: FuDuzn

I pity the Fu
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Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:20 pm

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Titus or Bulba, one of you be town so I can sheep you to victory pls

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #27 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:23 pm

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He's my mason buddy
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Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:24 pm

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I just tend to ignore the first big wagon for a while
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:25 pm

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But this is the second one so it's okay
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Post Post #31 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:25 pm

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Gimme like 5 pages to read Bulba
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Post Post #34 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:27 pm

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Confession: I didn't read the game very closely

I don't care at this point though, Stuffed is scum
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Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:31 pm

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Your case is compelling

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Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:31 pm

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much voting
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Post Post #43 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:35 pm

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Silly, but not unbelievable from someone who hasn't played with me a lot

I mean look I clearly lied on page 2, how can someone misread votes, that's absurd
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Post Post #45 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:48 pm

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Okay wow, not having my contacts in was really screwing with me, I thought you were asking what I thought about that Bulba
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Post Post #46 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:49 pm

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In post 44, TierShift wrote:ABSURD I SAY

maybe he was hinting at the sheeping? AND LYING OMG
but seriously, your posts feel a tad faked.
Cool so do yours
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Post Post #56 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:17 pm

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Obscurity
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Post Post #57 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:18 pm

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In post 52, TierShift wrote:Why do my posts seem faked?
Well why do mine

Cause it's probably the same reason

Bulba town, Cherry town, Fu town, Tier town, me town

Gotta look at other 4
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Post Post #59 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:20 pm

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Confidence in getting me to join him doesn't seem like a Scum Fu move to me.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:21 pm

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That's such a fragmented sentence, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:59 pm

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Yes, multiple games
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Post Post #63 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:01 pm

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Post Post #64 (isolation #18) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:01 pm

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Scratch Germany you were town. I had a newbie where you were scum I think? Jester you were scum at least.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:05 pm

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Why do you ask
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Post Post #68 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:29 pm

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In post 67, Stuffed Crust wrote:That said, there's no way scum wasn't between the two L-2 wagons that popped up.
Why?
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Post Post #71 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:52 pm

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?

I don't know what associating town with right means

And I'm on a wagon on my own atm

And I'm feeling where I like my vote, and it's here.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:06 pm

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?

I'm assuming you and Bulba are right as town in general because you guys are good mafia players. That's not me assuming town players are right.

You also missed the part where I thought Bulba was the first wagon so there's that
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Post Post #74 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:07 pm

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I missed the second vote, and didn't pay much attention to Bulba's initial one, the only votes I really noted were the two on Bulba. And that Stuffed Crust looked super eh.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:09 pm

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That speaks to my character more than my alignment
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Post Post #82 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:32 pm

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?

You need to reread then, I think we had some semantical issue fight just like this iirc
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Post Post #86 (isolation #26) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:59 am

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In post 84, Titus wrote:
In post 82, BBmolla wrote:?

You need to reread then, I think we had some semantical issue fight just like this iirc
What about you're being fake and eager to buddy and sheep is a semantic fight?

Timeshift are you an alt? Have you read C9++ (the prequel)?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #27) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:00 am

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If "fake" means the "much voting" shit than that's just me having fun in a game. Apologies.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #28) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:01 am

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You being anti-fun is such a you move :(

So what do you think about Obscurity Titus?
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Post Post #92 (isolation #29) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:46 am

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In post 89, Titus wrote:I cannot actually think anything of him until he at least fakes understanding until he makes it. There's no content.
So the right move here is to ignore him instead of prodding him for content? :|
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Post Post #93 (isolation #30) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:48 am

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In post 89, Titus wrote:BBMolla, I still don't see semantics in what I'm saying. Also, why are you interpreting this as making the game boring. That makes no sense.
Because finding scum is fun.

I guess I was just hoping we could skip the normal page 5-10 "MOLLA IS SCUM FOR REACTION TEST STUFF" phase of the game.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #31) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:50 am

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In post 57, BBmolla wrote:Bulba town, Cherry town, Fu town, Tier town, me town
Add on Titus, that leaves Venrob, Stuffed Crust, and Obscurity for scum
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Post Post #95 (isolation #32) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:50 am

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Seriously though why isn't Obscurity dead yet
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Post Post #97 (isolation #33) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:22 am

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In post 96, TierShift wrote:Why do you want him dead?
Their current posts in summary are "Hello, I am scum."
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Post Post #102 (isolation #34) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:42 am

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In post 100, TierShift wrote:I see 1 rvs 1 annoying bs post

But there is a definite will to not interact. Some more votes might fix that?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: obscurity

P-edit: thx titus
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Post Post #104 (isolation #35) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:49 pm

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Cause I'm town and others are realizing it before you
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Post Post #107 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:53 pm

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Can the whole game get prodded or some shit. Where the hell is Obscumity?
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Post Post #127 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:58 am

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In post 123, Titus wrote:@Obscurity, is your plan to intentionally be scummy?
My thoughts word for word
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Post Post #128 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:00 am

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Fu is probably scum too btw
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Post Post #129 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:00 am

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Or town PR, one of those.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:25 am

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In post 135, Stuffed Crust wrote:
In post 134, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 129, BBmolla wrote:Or town PR, one of those.
Why would you even mention this?
This.



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Post Post #138 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:31 am

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No, better me saying you're probably a PR than you saying you're a PR

I'm not going down that road today to put it simply.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:47 am

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*shrug*

If you're town I don't think scum will kill because I said you were scum or a PR, so chill.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:03 pm

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Sorry, that's what I meant. I don't think my opinion on you is going to get you killed so chill.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #44) » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:35 am

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In post 144, Titus wrote:BB, How do you know which players are town PR or scum with no flips. The added...or town PR makes me think you claimed scum and outed your buddy by mistake
No, I've led a crusade many a time against someone who is scummy due to their behavior, only to find out they're the town doctor/cop/etc.

Town PRs and Scum both play similarly in the early game, trying to avoid attention so their cover isn't blown.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #45) » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:37 am

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In post 150, Stuffed Crust wrote:I was hoping someone would 'hammer' and we could catch them in the act.
Now it's pretty bust.
Serious question, do you think anyone here is honestly stupid enough to hammer me without a claim?
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Post Post #164 (isolation #46) » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:40 am

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Like, my comment about the town PR really would have been fine if you all hadn't made it a big deal, it's kind of an issue now because he's reacted to it, so good job with that.

Stuffed Crust looks fine enough. Someone vote Obscumity so he'll get in here and do stuff, he's quite obviously trying to lurk out of the spotlight and I'm not letting that shit fly, fuck no.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:45 am

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In post 179, CherryDrPepper wrote:Well im default townreading silver bard for the time being based on Venrob's replace out as it felt really townish to me.
Agreed
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Post Post #207 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:45 pm

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Obscurity is shaking in his boots, just look at him
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Post Post #208 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:47 pm

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Post Post #209 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:47 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=17438
@Obscurity: Dude, why do you join games only to post only 200 posts, is that actually fun?
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Post Post #210 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:48 pm

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Fuck it.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #52) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:48 pm

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Obscurity needs to start posting or replace out.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #53) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:01 pm

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Oi, apologies, thought it was finished :X

You can force replace me if you want mod.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #54) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:01 pm

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Pretty embarrassing.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #55) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:03 pm

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That's what I get for assuming joindate is relevent
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Post Post #217 (isolation #56) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:03 pm

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I'll wait for mod to tell me what he wants to do before I continue posting
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Post Post #218 (isolation #57) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:07 pm

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If I get modkilled for that then I'm sorry :(
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Post Post #220 (isolation #58) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:28 pm

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Great thank you. You can remove the links if you want.

Regardless, if Obscurity doesn't start posting more, I'm literally advocating a policy lynch on them.

If they're scum, yay, we got lurking scum.

If they're town, yay, he won't lurk and then hammer me incorrectly in LYLO.

Of course, if he actually starts frequently posting, I'm willing to reconsider.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #59) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:00 pm

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In post 221, CherryDrPepper wrote:But I like his "I dont know why you guys are town reading me"
I actually liked that
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Post Post #244 (isolation #60) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:43 am

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At this point I'm down to vote Fu, I don't even really think Obscurity is scum anymore (if he could just post like, twice a frequently, he'd be wonderful).

Gimme a sec to sit on his wagon a bit more just to give him a little more incentive to post. And so I can make sure I don't accidentally hammer.
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Post Post #245 (isolation #61) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:44 am

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Don't remember my reasoning for townreading him before, he could be scum, especially with the lurkadurking.
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Post Post #247 (isolation #62) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:49 am

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Fu fu fu fu fu

And k, that's chill.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #63) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:37 am

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I'm bidding?
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Post Post #255 (isolation #64) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:39 am

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In post 248, TierShift wrote:
In post 244, BBmolla wrote:At this point I'm down to vote Fu, I don't even really think Obscurity is scum anymore (if he could just post like, twice a frequently, he'd be wonderful).
Why don't you think obs is scum anymore?
Mainly seems like a person who thinks it's okay to post once every 3 days (which logically I don't understand, but whatever).

I guess his calmness at everyone jumping on him rubs me the right way.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:40 am

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Oh yeah, if Obscurity was my buddy I definitely would be bussing the shit out of him, so that's true.
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Post Post #257 (isolation #66) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:40 am

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Bulba is being normal conspiracy theorist Bulba, why is it particularly scummy this time around?
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Post Post #264 (isolation #67) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:55 pm

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Define aloof and be specific about what I'm aloof about
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Post Post #273 (isolation #68) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:40 pm

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In post 265, FuDuzn wrote:Mark my words, this BB boy ain't right.
I could just be a cool PR who wants to use his power before he's outed yknow
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Post Post #274 (isolation #69) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:41 pm

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In post 265, FuDuzn wrote:You seem out of sorts, your faux pas of referring to an ongoing game is a big part of what I am talking about.
Yeah, I was kind of out of sorts about that because it's really embarrassing to be accidentally doing something like that after playing so many games and yelling at people for having done the same.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #70) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:49 pm

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In post 266, Titus wrote:
In post 262, Stuffed Crust wrote:@Titus: I think the mention of the accidental hammer is weird, but
What's your issues with the post?

-V
He's voting someone who

a) He doesn't think is scum
b) Pushes someone as scum and doesn't vote for them
c) Doesn't give reason for his sudden switch on Obscurity
d) Gives no reason why Fu is scum


VOTE: BBMolla

My vote should have never left.
Even if Obscurity is town, if he posts like he does right now for the rest of game, he's definitely going to mislynch me in LYLO.
I've advocated to lynch people who I think are detrimental, but town, before.
Just ask Bulba, I thought he was town in the first Voided nightless but agreed to lynch him in exchange for a scum lynch the next day.

Who'd I push as scum and not vote for? If it was Fu it's because I'm not too sure on that and don't know what the votecount is at. Or was at.

I already said I thought Obscurity's calmness was different than I expected

Fu not being engaged isn't what I remember from town Fu, it's okay though, he came back and I feel a bit better about him after his wierd "BB FEELS WIERD" shpeal.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #71) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:52 pm

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I didn't really like Fu's early strong stances though, looking back they kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

This whole game is filled with players with strong stances. Normally they'd be scummy, but it's pretty normal for Titus and Bulba to be that strong stanced. Fu less so.
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Post Post #278 (isolation #72) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:53 pm

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Oh right Fu was the power role or scum.

Forgot about that whole ordeal.

Sorry I think I've overloaded myself lately so that might be a part of me being wierd.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #73) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:54 pm

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CherryDrPepper are kind of townish for their hydra disonnance I think.

Scum in Fu/Obscu/Bulba I think? Bulba's there cause I can't read him for shit.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #74) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:23 am

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In post 281, Titus wrote:
In post 276, BBmolla wrote:
In post 266, Titus wrote:
In post 262, Stuffed Crust wrote:@Titus: I think the mention of the accidental hammer is weird, but
What's your issues with the post?

-V
He's voting someone who

a) He doesn't think is scum
b) Pushes someone as scum and doesn't vote for them
c) Doesn't give reason for his sudden switch on Obscurity
d) Gives no reason why Fu is scum


VOTE: BBMolla

My vote should have never left.
Even if Obscurity is town, if he posts like he does right now for the rest of game, he's definitely going to mislynch me in LYLO.
I've advocated to lynch people who I think are detrimental, but town, before.
Just ask Bulba, I thought he was town in the first Voided nightless but agreed to lynch him in exchange for a scum lynch the next day.

Who'd I push as scum and not vote for? If it was Fu it's because I'm not too sure on that and don't know what the votecount is at. Or was at.

I already said I thought Obscurity's calmness was different than I expected

Fu not being engaged isn't what I remember from town Fu, it's okay though, he came back and I feel a bit better about him after his wierd "BB FEELS WIERD" shpeal.
Translation: I do not trust fellow town members. Rather than educating, I will lynch them. Plus, that gives BB!scum cover. I will lay the seeds for changing back to obsscum in the same post.

Translation 2: Now that Fu's not FoSing me, he's ok.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #75) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:25 am

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In post 283, Titus wrote:Town shouldn't lynch people they believe are town, especially when Obscurity like people can reform or be vig shot.
-He can't be as has been shown through multiple attempts to contact him.
-There is such an unlikelyhood in there being a vig we might as well be waiting for werewolves to kill him.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #76) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:27 am

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In addition, a vig shot where Obscurity is town and we don't lynch scum puts us in MYLO. All the vig shot would do is lose us a lynch.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #77) » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:11 am

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In post 296, Stuffed Crust wrote:
In post 273, BBmolla wrote:
In post 265, FuDuzn wrote:Mark my words, this BB boy ain't right.
I could just be a cool PR who wants to use his power before he's outed yknow
In post 278, BBmolla wrote:Oh right Fu was the power role or scum.

Forgot about that whole ordeal.

Sorry I think I've overloaded myself lately so that might be a part of me being wierd.

BBM, why are you so intent on softing/outing PR's? Even if you are a PR, outing yourself like this on D1 is suicidal.
There's no reflexive/immune roles in the setup (Bulletproof, Paranoid Gun Owner, etc), so the only reason I could see for doing this is if you're a VT trying to draw a night kill. Even then, scum could run a similar gambit and be like, "GUESS MY PR SOFT GAMBIT WAS TOO OBVIOUS" to explain how they didn't die at night. Ultimately, it's anti-town. It opens a big can of WIFOM that's exploitable on all ends.

This is why I don't like talking about PRs. It bugs me that other people are so obsessed with them--looking at you, Titus. I don't understand why you'd be acting like a Vig is in the setup and trying to draw the vig shot to Obscurity. It's against town utility, because now scum will avoid shooting Obscurity if Obscurity is town, and if Obscurity is scum, you've given Obs a blanket to hide behind. If Obscurity doesn't die, then the response is easily, "Guess there's no Vig in the setup and scum doesn't want to double-up on the kill 'cus they figure a vig would shoot me" or whatever. Again, it's against town utility to try to direct/out the vig shot like that.

That's my major beef with you guys right now. Shut up about PRs. It's not helping, and it's against your wincon since It makes me really suspicious of you--and that's the last thing you want as scum or town.

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Post Post #305 (isolation #78) » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:47 am

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Post Post #306 (isolation #79) » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:48 am

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I could say "I don't want to lynch Fu today because of reasons I don't want to divulge" but I'd rather just say my reasons here to scare Mafia.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #80) » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:58 am

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In post 302, Obscurity wrote:Prod dodge. Will get to this tonight, scout's honour.
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Post Post #318 (isolation #81) » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:46 pm

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In post 316, CherryDrPepper wrote:DP we really need to talk more often in our hydra QT, i told you this kind of moonlogic is attribute to town titus.
Don't know which head you are but yeah that's my basic idea on Titus too
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Post Post #322 (isolation #82) » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:05 pm

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You guys

I think Obscurity is a robot programmed by an MSer and thrown in game to test us

Thoughts
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Post Post #340 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:47 am

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In post 328, The Silver Bard wrote:BBmolla was also someone I initially had a townread on. This was because of his activity, I usually find activity to be something that I think is a townie thing to do, as it provides a lot of information to the thread. It is also easier to mess up as scum if you post a lot. I have seen scumplayers being very active before though, and if you are a good player you can pull it off. And even if I can’t find anything specific I don’t like about BBmolla’s post, I can’t find anything (else than activity) that makes me feel he is town. So I will move him back to the null-pile as well.
Admittedly I'm not doing shit atm

1. Titus - Prob town
2. Stuffed Crust (hydra of Varsoon and Mac) - Prob town
3. Bulbazak - ?
4. CherryDrPepper (hydra of Sakura Hana and DoctorPepper) - Prob town
5. The Silver Bard Venrob - Prob town
6. TierShift - Prob town
7. BBmolla - Town
8. FuDuzn** - ?
9. Obscurity* - ?

If Obscu is seriously newbtown than it's Fu/Bulba gg
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Post Post #341 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:50 am

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I still don't want to rely on a vig to shoot Obscurity. I'd rather just lynch him now.
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Post Post #342 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:51 am

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Could no lynch and pray for a vig kill, otherwise letting him get vigged tonight if he's town and we lynch town puts us in a shitty mylo where we'll just have to nl

I'd rather vig be used when needed, like when we mislynch in LYLO.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:52 am

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Wait we lose anyway if that happens huh?

nvm
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Post Post #344 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:52 am

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Still unless we know a vig exists it's silly to wait for him to get vigged.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:53 am

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Mainly I'm worried you fucks will let him live till LYLO and he'll mishammer

Have you seen his god damned votes today
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Post Post #347 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:56 am

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Obscurity isn't an information lynch, we are lynching someone who will
lose us the game if they are alive in lylo


If we lynch town today, with less information than we'd have tomorrow might I add, then we HAVE to lynch him tomorrow meaning lynching town today puts us directly into LYLO.

All vig does is lose us tomorrow's lynch and waste their shot.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:56 am

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It's probably Fu/Bulba, but we have a lynch tomorrow to figure that shit out PLUS the odds are we have some sort of power to help us out.
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Post Post #350 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:59 am

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FOR THE RECORD

I'd be advocating keeping him alive as scum if he is town, he's fucking great to have in the town when you're scum. Silver Bard vote for lurking? My god, I'd want a town full of him!

I'm just saying it's a win/win lynch. We get scum or we get anti-town town.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:00 am

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In post 339, The Silver Bard wrote:Yeah, no one cares about some other game. It is your play in this games that is concerning me.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:01 am

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I'm just trying to make sure people know where I stand and why
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Post Post #360 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:54 am

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In post 356, Obscurity wrote:
In post 338, TierShift wrote:I haven't read the other game and I'm participating so cut the crap and get your ass in here.
My ass is present. I am participating.

In post 342, BBmolla wrote:Could no lynch and pray for a vig kill, otherwise letting him get vigged tonight if he's town and we lynch town puts us in a shitty mylo where we'll just have to nl

I'd rather vig be used when needed, like when we mislynch in LYLO.
In post 343, BBmolla wrote:Wait we lose anyway if that happens huh?

nvm
This looks orchestrated. I hesitate to go back to voting BB so soon, but I'm watching. :shifty:
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Post Post #362 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:17 pm

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Explain how we are a glaring scumteam
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Post Post #365 (isolation #96) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:19 pm

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*glow*

You can hammer after his reasoning for us being glaring scumteam is solely because I'm top poster and bard is lowest
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Post Post #366 (isolation #97) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:19 pm

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And his claim
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Post Post #367 (isolation #98) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:19 pm

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Obscurity, you are now the lowest poster and thus confirmed scum, thoughts?
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Post Post #369 (isolation #99) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:23 pm

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In post 321, Obscurity wrote:My usual theory is that the scum are among the most- and least-posting players. Since I know that I'm solidly town, that leaves Silver Bard as the least-poster and BBmolla as the most-poster.

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Post Post #370 (isolation #100) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:24 pm

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I can link multiple games to prove that this doesn't mean shit, but I really don't know if it's worth it
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Post Post #373 (isolation #101) » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:45 pm

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You do understand that if he's vigged we have to no lynch anyway right? So basically him getting vigged is equivalent to him getting lynched.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #102) » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:32 am

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In post 374, Titus wrote:
In post 373, BBmolla wrote:You do understand that if he's vigged we have to no lynch anyway right? So basically him getting vigged is equivalent to him getting lynched.
Since when does vigging require a no lynch?
Look, assuming he's town:

Lynching
9 players alive d1
1 lynched, 1 nightkilled
7 players alive d2
1 lynched, 1 nightkilled
5 players alive d3

Vigging
9 players alive d1
1 lynched, 1 nightkilled, 1 vigged
6 players alive d2
no lynch, 1 nightkill
5 players alive d3

Fuctionally, all the vig does is replace our d2 lynch.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #103) » Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:05 am

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*shrug*
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Post Post #386 (isolation #104) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:38 am

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No, because if we don't lynch him today, we have to autolynch him tomorrow (AKA, we have to ignore any useful information we might have to do so).
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Post Post #387 (isolation #105) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:39 am

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Like you don't seem to understand how autoloss a situation with him in LYLO is

I'd much rather lynch him today, educated lynch tomorrow.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #106) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:40 am

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If we get scum day 1 (unlikely given numbers and lack of solid info) than it's different but that's unlikely given numbers and lack of solid info.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #107) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:17 am

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Titus he wants to lynch me and Silver Bard. And there is no way to change his mind because there is no reasoning with him.

He's going to lynch me/Silver Bard at LYLO and lose us the game, how can you not understand this?

Let's say we lynch wrong today, and vig him. During the night, a tracker tracked someone to the kill and they claim some other role. He's probably lying let's lynch him! Oh wait, never mind, lynching him loses us the game if we're wrong, better just no lynch.

I'd much rather lynch the policy lynch today and actually try to lynch correctly with information tomorrow

You're not going to convince me on this Titus.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #108) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:18 am

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If we have a "semi guilty" I'd like to be able to lynch it without the possibility of losing.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #109) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:19 am

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Plus the wagon on him is probably all town.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #110) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:19 am

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He could still be scum with one of Fu/Bulba yknow.
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Post Post #409 (isolation #111) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:01 pm

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\o/

If you're 1-Shot Protective you should claim who you protected imo

But that's your call

VOTE: Fu
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Post Post #428 (isolation #112) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:02 am

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\o/

If Bulba is scum it also means he no killed in order to plan it, and in the process planned on clearing me. Which is too far fetched for me atm.
In post 420, TierShift wrote:Or wait I think this only clears BB.
Technically, I could be scum with Bard who decided to no lynch in hopes of a doc on me if you want to get super conspiracy theoryesque

Farly confident in Fu scum due to PoE
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Post Post #429 (isolation #113) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:09 am

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Titus might be scum for counter pushing the Obscurity lynch, I could see that lynch being all town tbh.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #114) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:39 am

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In post 430, Titus wrote:
In post 429, BBmolla wrote:Titus might be scum for counter pushing the Obscurity lynch, I could see that lynch being all town tbh.
Counterpushing?
"Don't lynch Obscurity, let vig shoot him"

I'm not planning on pushing it before looking at everyone else
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Post Post #440 (isolation #115) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:40 am

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In post 433, The Silver Bard wrote:My vote will be on Fu, but I won't put him to L-1 in case of a quickhammer. I'd like to hear more of peoples read before this day ends. Especially BB and Bulbazak since one of then or me probably gets NK'ed.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #116) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:40 am

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In post 438, Stuffed Crust wrote:Anyway, consider my vote on FuDuzn until he gets in here and explains things. I want to see what he has to say to the wagon and accusations building on him. IMO, it's pretty damning.
What is pretty damning?
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Post Post #458 (isolation #117) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:51 pm

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DBK where was this setup run before btw? I can't find it.

I'm home and I feel pretty good about Titus/Fu.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #118) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:41 pm

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Er, I've seen C9++ before, I wanted to see how the other C9-- went.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #119) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:04 pm

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I'm basically very content with this lynch, if he flips town I have some serious looking to do, but yeah.

I can try to go more in depth before we go to night if you'd like, but you're going to have to wait for it over a few days.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #120) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:28 am

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In post 478, CherryDrPepper wrote:Probably something DP mentioned without me noticing, I've told him many times (even in thread) that this moonlogic is Town Titus.
Moonlogic is town Titus, but that aside Titus's content today has been pretty scummy.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #121) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:29 am

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In post 484, Stuffed Crust wrote:Well, then why the fuck does everyone want to lynch FuDuzn if he isn't a counter-claimed Doctor? Posts like Fu's 415 made me sure that was the case. Now I feel really dumb.
Cause PoE doge
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Post Post #494 (isolation #122) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:33 am

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In post 490, Stuffed Crust wrote:Updated pools would be the same, but for different reasons. Instead of the counterclaim fueling the Fu/Bulba deal, it's PoE, like BBM said. Fu's not as strong of a pick for scum out of that pool anymore, though. It'd look more like Fu = Bulba >BBM.

Even then, ugh, I feel a lot less conviction now that I realize I've been reading the game wrong for the last 4 pages at least.

-V
You are aware that the only possible way I can be scum is if Bard is scum right? He kind of has a cop innocent on me.

Like I get that you're not reading and everything, but dude come on.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #123) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:24 am

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In post 498, The Silver Bard wrote:BB could you give us your reads on all the players in the game? Don't want to be a nag, but I find it very likely that you get NK'ed tonight, and a quickhammer would rob us of your thoughts.
1. Titus - I liked TierShift's stuff on her and think he's right, and besides her moonlogic, there are some posts that give me bad feelings like this one.
2. Stuffed Crust (hydra of Varsoon and Mac) - I liked them before, but the pool shit has been terrible, bordering on scummy.
3. Bulbazak - Probably town for claim.
4. CherryDrPepper (hydra of Sakura Hana and DoctorPepper) - Very town.
5. The Silver Bard Venrob - Fairly obviously town imo.
6. TierShift - Seems pretty transparently town to me
8. FuDuzn** - Scummy. The VT claim has me hesitant, but meh.


Titus is the way to look tomorrow imo, if Fu is town then maybe look towards Stuffed Crust? Bulba seems super disconnected, so the possibility of his claim being fake is still possible I guess, but that shouldn't be explored until later.

The Silver Bard, CherryDP, and TierShift I all feel comfortable calling town.

Don't take my reads as God's word though.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #124) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:25 am

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Where you standing readwise Bard?
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Post Post #535 (isolation #125) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:37 am

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Fu why aren't you appealing to me at all
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Post Post #538 (isolation #126) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:09 am

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I thought we were friends ;-;
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Post Post #539 (isolation #127) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:10 am

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Nah I just kind of expected it, that's all. Just noting it.

Still debating whether I'd go for Titus over Fu today.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #128) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:06 pm

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SC's reads list looks terribly opportunistic.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #129) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:09 pm

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In post 557, The Silver Bard wrote:If we have a roleblocker who blocked night one, I think he should claim, as it means he probably blocked scum. And if that is the case, then your claim might be false Bulba.
I agree with this fwiw
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Post Post #563 (isolation #130) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:06 am

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V/LA till the 2nd
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Post Post #571 (isolation #131) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:23 pm

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Home

This place sure is dead
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Post Post #577 (isolation #132) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:48 pm

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #578 (isolation #133) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:49 pm

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Wait, Fu what are you implying?
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Post Post #579 (isolation #134) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:49 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #580 (isolation #135) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:50 pm

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If you're implying what I think you are please explain how that makes even an ounce of sense
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Post Post #582 (isolation #136) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:16 pm

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In post 576, FuDuzn wrote:
In post 574, Stuffed Crust wrote:CherryDP needs to get in the game.
BBM, you can't just coast on your soft-conf status. If this place is dead, liven it up. It's not like people are going to wagon you. If anything, you can now take the biggest risks.
Titus, what -are- your reads?
Umm, what risks does BB have to take? For the most part only scum 'fear' being lynched. Maybe I am reading too much into this, but the way this is worded has me worried.
Okay nvm, I thought thsi meant you thought I was scum with SC, but, yeah, I read into it wrong.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #137) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:08 am

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A new set of eyes could help this game imo
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Post Post #589 (isolation #138) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:20 am

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I'm pretty okay with that, I guess I'm just trying to make sure I say everything I can think of before I inevitably die

Or scum can be like "MEHEHEH BB THINKS HE'S GOING TO DIE? NOT TONIGHT!" and not kill me, that'd be cool too.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #139) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:21 am

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I was going to ask Bulba why he's so laid back this game, and then I realized every game where he took command he's been scum

So lol
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Post Post #592 (isolation #140) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:26 am

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Or if Bulba also lied about being 1-shot, also possible.

Or if I use my action correctly tonight
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Post Post #593 (isolation #141) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:26 am

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Theoretical action
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Post Post #604 (isolation #142) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:39 pm

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Okay, just in the games I've been in with you then.

We have 11 days, I'm probably going to end up hammering Fu, but I guess I don't see the benefit in doing it so early?

We should compile a list of everyone's reads, who thinks who is scum, just an info wall

I'll try to do it tonight.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #143) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:44 pm

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You seriously think Titus is that town? Cause she's literally tied with SC for scumspect number 2 for me. I don't get TS being scum at all so explain that too please.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #144) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:45 pm

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Town

Bulba
TheSilverBard
Tiershift

Null/Town

CherryDrPepper

Null/Scum

TierShift
Stuffed Crust

Scum

FuDuzn
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Post Post #609 (isolation #145) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:49 pm

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Fair enough. I've just been getting townvibes from Tier like all game so I don't have any real reasoning besides that.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #146) » Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:54 am

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SC's reads are wierd as shit.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #147) » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:10 pm

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In post 628, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 623, BBmolla wrote:SC's reads are wierd as shit.
I'm not so sure that makes them scum, though.
True. Town-Varsoon having ass backwards reads doesn't sound completely nuts.

But I don't know which head it is
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Post Post #630 (isolation #148) » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:11 pm

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In post 627, Titus wrote:Wow, we're fucked if Bulba is town? What kinda shit is that?
^Titus it's when you say shit like this that makes me think you're scum.
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Post Post #668 (isolation #149) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:27 am

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Honestly I thought Bulba was scum yesterday. But I just at the moment doubt the whole "no kill and claim doc thing" because not only could a doc exist, but also a roleblocker, who could also explain the no kill.
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Post Post #669 (isolation #150) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:28 am

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AKA, even if he weren't cc'd he could be not confirmed town.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #151) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:42 am

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I'm saying Bulba's assumed no kill strategy would have failed had a roleblocker existed, I know that atm it appears one doesn't.
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Post Post #675 (isolation #152) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:48 am

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I'm saying the plan could go haywire. What if Bulba was blocked by the roleblocker? Bam, wrecked for not even nightkilling anyway.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #153) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:51 am

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nonononononono

I'm saying if he DID no kill and he WAS roleblocked (we'd know by now so that isn't the case, someone would have claimed it) then he'd get screwed
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Post Post #693 (isolation #154) » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:21 am

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VOTE: Fu

If I die tonight gl

If I don't I'll see you tomorrow :D
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Post Post #866 (isolation #155) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:28 pm

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Would have INSTA LYNCHED that Roleblocker claim

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