Mini 1516: Mafia in Space (Game Over)

[havingfitz]

This then gives fitz a shot tomorrow night,

Only if Wake is the RB or if we get RB tomorrow.

[ICEninja]

Shit you're right I didn't think of that.

[havingfitz]

I've seen all I need to see.

VOTE: Wake

[ICEninja]

Yeah, enough of this.

Vote Wake

.

[havingfitz]

Was that a bus?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Day 4, Votecount 5 (FINAL VOTECOUNT)

TvK [2]

My Milked Eek [0]

Regfan [1]

Wake88

ICEninja [0]

Garmr [0]

Wake88 [4] Regfan, Garmr, ICEninja, havingfitz

havingfitz [0]

Not Voting [2]

- My Milked Eek, TvK

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Wake88,

Town Shield

, lynched Day 4.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

TvK -

Vanilla Townie

- Endgamed Day 4
My Milked Eek -

Vanilla Townie

- Endgamed Day 4
Garmr -

Vanilla Townie

- Endgamed 4

This means the Mafia consisting of

:

Regfan -

Mafia Goon

ICEninja -

Mafia Goon

havingfitz -

Mafia 1X Role Cop

Survive and Win the game!

Quicktopic Links:

Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/NGgMASn7M7Dix
Mason QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/hkDDTAqPmVa
Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/fJvPbDegExJjB
Mod QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/psM8hm5L7yVRh

[Wake1]

Well, I tried.

[Tierce]

Wake88: What is the role PM "flavor" you are referring to?

[fferyllt]

gg scum team! I never seriously considered ICEninja for scum.


Sorry I tunneled you so hard TvK. I went from a town read on day 1 to a scum read on day 2, and it was mostly based on bad PoE with 2 scum in my townpile.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Wake's role PM:

Quadraxis - Town Shield

You are the Town Shield. You have two options on how to use your role:
1) Once during the game, target two players to be protected. This will protect them from being killed that night.
OR
2) Twice during the game, target one player to be protected. This will protect them from being killed that night.
The targeted player(s) is not informed that they were protected. You will not be informed if you protected the player(s) from a kill. You may not protect yourself. If you do not notify me of a decision before night's deadline, I will count it as a No Action. You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive. Please confirm by stating your role and affiliation in response to this PM.

[Wake1]

Wake88: What is the role PM "flavor" you are referring to?

"Town Shield."

When Falcon sent my role PM to my Quadraxis account (before I alt-slipped) it said I was the Town Shield, with a versatile 2-shot Doc ability.

[Wake1]

I've never heard of "Town Shield" in normalized play here.

[Wake1]

I've never heard of "Town Shield" in normalized play here.

[Tierce]

Normal Queue Rules

General

• All flavor in Normals must be public and entirely original. Flavor based on any sort of source material is considered a Theme game.
  
• Roles must use standard names, and Role PMs should not contain flavor.
  
• There must be at least one Vanilla Townie, and a sample Vanilla Townie role PM must be made public.
  
• There can only be a maximum of one Non-Normal role in a Mini Normal game and two Non-Normal roles in a Large Normal game.
  
• Only Normal mechanics and roles (besides the above variants) are allowed. See here for more information.

Everything here was scrupulously followed, and you were

not

a regular two-shot Doctor, as evidenced by the fact that you could use your role twice in the same Night. You should be aware of the rules of games you sign up for.

[Wake1]

Normal Queue Rules

General

• All flavor in Normals must be public and entirely original. Flavor based on any sort of source material is considered a Theme game.
  
• Roles must use standard names, and Role PMs should not contain flavor.
  
• There must be at least one Vanilla Townie, and a sample Vanilla Townie role PM must be made public.
  
• There can only be a maximum of one Non-Normal role in a Mini Normal game and two Non-Normal roles in a Large Normal game.
  
• Only Normal mechanics and roles (besides the above variants) are allowed. See here for more information.

Everything here was scrupulously followed, and you were

not

a regular two-shot Doctor, as evidenced by the fact that you could use your role twice in the same Night. You should be aware of the rules of games you sign up for.

Oh, OK. I figured this was a theme game with flavorized roles, and that "Town Shield" sounded like something in a space-themed game. Bah.

[Infinity 324]

Wake you should've known already not to gambit like that.

Especially

when you only have your gut

ICENINJA WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

you are going on my can't read list

you are way too good at this game

I dunno the fake paranoia was just too good

And I still don't understand mme

Why did you call your own post scummy if you knew it came from a town mindset? That was one thing that stood out to me.

What I learned from this game:

You need to look deeper into your strong townreads. You

really

need to.

...that was something I don't really have time for nowadays. So fuck that.

Don't judge someone's posts by a few scummy things

(I really need to re-iso mme and see where I messed up there)

Also, if everything scummy someone does can be explained by plastyle, they are probably town. (This applies to when I thought wake was scum the first time)

If you need to know what my reads were when, read the dead thread.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah, I was spectating.

[Wake1]

This is why I don't do gambits anymore, or trust my gut. And because Scum love logic, which is why I've never lost as Scum in 5-6 years, what else do you have besides speculation?

Where's the outrage when someone gets mislynched? Where's the outrage when a gambit works?

Now I'm inclined to never do gambits even if it costs Town the win.

[Tierce]

Normal Queue Rules

General

• All flavor in Normals must be public and entirely original. Flavor based on any sort of source material is considered a Theme game.
  
• Roles must use standard names, and Role PMs should not contain flavor.
  
• There must be at least one Vanilla Townie, and a sample Vanilla Townie role PM must be made public.
  
• There can only be a maximum of one Non-Normal role in a Mini Normal game and two Non-Normal roles in a Large Normal game.
  
• Only Normal mechanics and roles (besides the above variants) are allowed. See here for more information.

Everything here was scrupulously followed, and you were

not

a regular two-shot Doctor, as evidenced by the fact that you could use your role twice in the same Night. You should be aware of the rules of games you sign up for.

Oh, OK. I figured this was a theme game with flavorized roles, and that "Town Shield" sounded like something in a space-themed game. Bah.

This was a Normal game. It is in the rules that Role PMs are

not

flavored according to the original flavor the mod wants to apply to their game. And you had the following in the very first page:

Sample Role PM

Playername - Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie. You have zero night actions. Your strongest weapon is used during the day and is your vote. You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

[Wake1]

And Garmr, you should have listened. We hadn't lost yet at the start of Day 4, and I sure as hell didn't twist your arm to vote me.

Yeah, I messed up Day 3, but NOT Day 4. If you were Town you could have listened to reason over revenge.

[Wake1]

Normal Queue Rules

General

• All flavor in Normals must be public and entirely original. Flavor based on any sort of source material is considered a Theme game.
  
• Roles must use standard names, and Role PMs should not contain flavor.
  
• There must be at least one Vanilla Townie, and a sample Vanilla Townie role PM must be made public.
  
• There can only be a maximum of one Non-Normal role in a Mini Normal game and two Non-Normal roles in a Large Normal game.
  
• Only Normal mechanics and roles (besides the above variants) are allowed. See here for more information.

Everything here was scrupulously followed, and you were

not

a regular two-shot Doctor, as evidenced by the fact that you could use your role twice in the same Night. You should be aware of the rules of games you sign up for.

Oh, OK. I figured this was a theme game with flavorized roles, and that "Town Shield" sounded like something in a space-themed game. Bah.

This was a Normal game. It is in the rules that Role PMs are

not

flavored according to the original flavor the mod wants to apply to their game. And you had the following in the very first page:

Sample Role PM

Playername - Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie. You have zero night actions. Your strongest weapon is used during the day and is your vote. You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Well, shit. I missed that. I must have confused it with a Mini Theme, especially because of the whole space-themed part of it.

[Infinity 324]

Also: don't judge someone's alignment based on how good they are as scum. It varies wildly from game to game, and who knows why. The first time I was scum, I was one of everyone's top townreads. The next time, I got lynched the day I replaced in. This seems to be similar for iceninja.

PEdit: Good idea

I mean, you need to be sure a gambit will work before you do it.

Also, a lot of it is site meta. I've heard you come from another site. Here, if a gambit works, people say things like "that was so risky" and "what if it had failed?"

Just a heads up.

PEdit 2: The game was lost as soon as reg claimed doc; he was too strong town

Scum would've won if it had just regfan in it

[Wake1]

Also, Infinity, people shouldn't judge people based on how good they are as Scum.

I could almost here the shrieks when I started questioning Ffery, because, *gasp*, she's universally Town. Same with Reg.

What doesn't make sense is why Ffery didn't go full-blown rage mode the VERY MOMENT I faked a guilty on her. That shit has happened to me, and I raged and got it thrown off.

Instead, it's like at first she didn't even acknowledge it, and asked me unrelated questions. You tell me how I'm supposed to react to that. Apparently it had MME convinced as well. I only regret not doing this to ICE instead, since I KNEW he kept shifting, twisting, and mislynching. I wouldn't have gambitted if I didn't have to feel like this was a popularity contest.