I'm trying to decide how to do prods and such since the site outages, but now that they're over, I think I'm just gonna keep the same deadline, and anyone you want to post can simply ask me to prod them.
If you wanted to declare V/LA during the site outages if you haven't done so, please do so now.
[L-4] FuDuzn - Bulbazak
[L-4] Bulbazak - FuDuzn
[L-4] BBmolla - Titus
[L-4] The Silver Bard - Obscurity
It’s that time. You guys have chosen a player to send to the lynching block.
You guys chose Obscurity. He turned out to be a
Vanilla Townie
.
It is now Night 1. Deadline is December 25th at 7 PM CST ((expired on 2013-12-25 19:00:00)) to send in your night actions. I'm giving you an extra 24 hours because of the holidays.
Let's see, you claim to believe Bulba as the doctor, but you don't unvote BB. Perhaps I wa wrong on BB. I can't see BB and Bulba engaging in such a risky scum theatre so early.
I'll have to believe the claim, but keep in mind that in 65% of setups there is not a doc. I'd say it makes a high risk high reward fakeclaim for scum. Just as a reminder that we have no way to tell if a doc claim is fake in a majority of cases.
@Titus: BB doesn't have to be scum if bulba is...it just seems highly unlikely the other way around.
Fu, don't you believe the claim? What is the reason for tunneling on bulba?
Why did you claim vanilla? If you're VT, how do you know bulba is scum?
I don't get your behaviour and would vote you, if bulba had not asked us not to do so.
I might claim as well then. As scum won't be pushing BBmolla anyways, and me holding back on this information can't be used to trap. I am a 1-shot-cop and checked BBmolla, result Innocent. Why BBmolla? Well I decided to check one of my "neutral" reads: BBmolla, Bulbazak or Titus. I landed on BBmolla as he is the big poster in this game and can easily be a major force on that note alone. He was also friendly to me, and I am a sucker to friendly people, and he could have easily been someone who could trick me because of this. He was also a player I would like to cooperate with if he came back Innocent, because of his friendlyness and general attitude.
I regret checking him now though, if it was this obvious he was town. Him getting a claimed protect on him. Me claiming now though provides us with 3 townies from claims. If you believe Bulbazak and me we got a 3 man towncircle going. The only reservation I got about the Bulbazak claim is the posibility of scum holding their shot, but I don't think that is very likely. Bulbazak claiming doc as scum is risky, because of a possible counterclaim. And him claiming to protect a player I got an Innocent check on would be to much of a coincident. So I believe Bulbazak.
All right this clears bard and BB.
Bard, remember that bulba would most likely fake claim doc with a protect on a townie, so there's no coincidence there.
Or wait I think this only clears BB.
Anyway scum probably isn't in bard or bulba.
Nor do I believe it to be in crust or cherry.
So for me it's Titus and Fu.
But with a protect on a townie, scum claiming or counterclaiming would expose them. If there is a counterclaim now it means scum want to go for a 1v1 trade doc (most likely 1-shot) for scum. I would think not going for such a trade as scum at this point is better, and therefor find it more likely that Bulbazak is telling the truth.
The coincident part is that it is BB that Bulbazak claimed to save, while he was the one I checked. To me it makes it less likely that for instance scum held their shot. Simply because I now know BB is town.
Look, the deal is it's either (35%) 1v1 with doc or (65%) obvtown. Goes for both bulba and you (cop then)
You are town anyway so no reason to distrust your claim.
You and bulba picked the same player. That's a coincidence either way, whether bulba is scum or not.
In post 420, TierShift wrote:Or wait I think this only clears BB.
Anyway scum probably isn't in bard or bulba.
Nor do I believe it to be in crust or cherry.
So for me it's Titus and Fu.
This is true. There got to be some heavy coincidences for BBmolla to be scum now. For instance: Me and BB being scum together, holding our shot. Or BB being scum , scum holding their shot, while BB being a godfather. The chance of BB being scum is 0.01 % if you ask me.
In post 422, TierShift wrote:Look, the deal is it's either (35%) 1v1 with doc or (65%) obvtown. Goes for both bulba and you (cop then)
You are town anyway so no reason to distrust your claim.
You and bulba picked the same player. That's a coincidence either way, whether bulba is scum or not.
I agree, but the way I see it the percentages is higher for trueclaim.
