Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Mafia (Game Over)

Antihero · Post Post #39 (isolation #0) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:39 pm

i got a cute poem for you

the white knight rides in
to save...

...

actually, screw you guys. i lied. i don't have a poem.

VOTE: aronis

p.edit: lol, yeah lynch this with fire

Antihero · Post Post #48 (isolation #1) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:15 pm

dr scar:

asking for a claim (at L-2 no less) doesn't gel with the complaints about the speed of the wagon
also discussing "discussion" is scummy

Antihero · Post Post #52 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:34 pm

which votes?

Antihero · Post Post #71 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:17 pm

In post 67, TiphaineDeath wrote:UNVOTE: yeah that escalated way to quickly.

^this is scum too
there's plenty of errant feces to go around...

Antihero · Post Post #86 (isolation #4) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:17 pm

In post 84, neil1113 wrote:Again, expound. Why is this a scum tell? Why is that post coming from scum motivation more than town?

what's confusing about aegor/my explanation?

TD was a fourth vote (in four posts) in a flashwagon, so at what point did the speed become unacceptable, exactly?
also, general pooh-poohing of wagons (errant feces) without anything specific generally tends to come from scum more than town

Antihero · Post Post #93 (isolation #5) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:43 pm

In post 87, neil1113 wrote:
In post 86, Antihero wrote:TD was a fourth vote (in four posts) in a flashwagon, so at what point did the speed become unacceptable, exactly?
That's a question you should ask him, and one you should have posed to him if you really want an answer, which makes me wonder how genuine your inquisitive behavior is? You didn't pose the question until you were forced to respond to your own inquiry, and even then, you didn't necessarily pose it to him. Are you really curious as to where his behavior lies? If so, you're not exactly acting that way.
FOS: Antihero

"inquisitive behavior"?
my question was rhetorical and it was to help illustrate my point, i didn't expect an answer

In post 86, Antihero wrote:also, general pooh-poohing of wagons (errant feces) without anything specific generally tends to come from scum more than town
Care to prove this statistic of yours that you seemed to pull from nowhere?

oh really, we're playing this game?

here. here's an example off the top of my head. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p5729025
i'm not going to compile statistics; if you don't think it's scummy, then you don't

Antihero · Post Post #95 (isolation #6) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:48 pm

laziness is scummy? can you prove this statistic of yours or did you pull it from nowhere?

Antihero · Post Post #96 (isolation #7) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:48 pm

In post 94, neil1113 wrote:No scum hunting = noted.

how is it no scum hunting...?

Antihero · Post Post #99 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:53 pm

wait a second, neil didn't even bother to read the link i posted (in 3 minutes... no) but

I'm

the lazy one here...?

it perfectly illustrates what i'm talking about if you're really interested, mr. inquisitive mind

Antihero · Post Post #102 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:57 pm

i'm actually thinking it's more from our playstyles not meshing

i can already tell, neil's the kind of player that likes asking a lot of questions, thinking things through, and weighing everything carefully.
i say things impulsively, draw conclusions from what's already there, and rely a lot on gut.

Antihero · Post Post #106 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:11 pm

who's the other head, nero?

Antihero · Post Post #110 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:13 pm

damn, you're internet's slow...

...and you're pretty impatient

Antihero · Post Post #116 (isolation #12) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:15 pm

In post 104, TheUnderachivers wrote:naw, he's scum shadowing here. Like Fuzzy thinkin' my account slip is a scumtell is really dumb...neil agreeing with that bullshit logic, and the fact that he's calling it a gambit and a reaction fish when that makes as much sense as boobs on a man is straight up scum. He's also sheeping PhD and thinking that my very obvious joke was a scumtell. I think scum tend to have less of a sense of humor.

I see these "SHOW ME PROOFS!" kinda posts from scum all the time.

Also he's trying to distract me from his godmother Cephir.

He basically calls me scum but is to afraid to vote us.

you familiar with neil's meta?

might be worth doing a meta dive

Antihero · Post Post #120 (isolation #13) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:22 pm

In post 118, TheUnderachivers wrote:No but I think I've played with him before. Also too lazy to do a dive. Why don't you do one and tell me what you find.

yeah, that... that was the idea. for me to do it...

Antihero · Post Post #135 (isolation #14) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:49 pm

VOTE: neil

Antihero · Post Post #136 (isolation #15) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:03 pm

In post 133, neil1113 wrote:First, I dare you to prove anywhere in any of my posts, I said Laziness was scum-motivated more than town-motivated (or for humorous reasons, scummy)? Can't can you? Then shut your mouth. Ignorance does not suit you.

shut my mouth? wow, that sounds like a guy who's open minded and really wanting to get the bottom of things.
oh wait, no, it sounds like scum who's already cranking up the tough guy bluster now that people are calling him down.

Simple: (In your post) You are not legitimately looking for answers, you're not contributing, you weren't helping define your supposed suspect to anyone else who may not see what you see... to put it quite simply, you were not doing anything to scum hunt with your posting(s). Thus, you were not scum-hunting.

it's not scumhunting because it's not scumhunting...
ain't circular reasoning great?

clearly other people saw what i saw because that clock guy said it himself. i also did define my "supposed suspect". so you can say that you don't agree with it, but you can't say i didn't give reasons

I didn't ask for an example, I asked for you to prove a statistic you quoted. You showed me an example, and thus you proved nothing. I can show you an example of a person that has three hands, that does not mean that everybody has three hands and by stating such an absolute fact as though it was, is ignorant to the extreme. You made an absolute fact, I asked for evidence to support a statistic. That's illogical.

you really demand statistical evidence for every personal scumtell people use? horseshit,

that's

illogical. you either buy it as a tell and agree or you don't buy it and you disagree.

You didn't even read any of the posts did you? You just like to sheep. I'd like to welcome the official VI / Village Troll to the game. Good news is, you're conftown to me in my reads now. Bad news is, I probably will not be responding to anything you say after this post. The worthless stench that comes from your posts is absolutely astounding.

I can make bold claims too, but without evidence, you look as pathetic as your claim here. Care to expound?

discredit more. nero cain and mastin are both far from VIs

Antihero · Post Post #139 (isolation #16) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:19 pm

yeah, nix what i said earlier. this isn't a cautious playstyle. it's aggressively pushing a shit case which pretty much amounts to "eh, i don't agree with his scumtells" and "eh, i don't like his playstyle".

Antihero · Post Post #158 (isolation #17) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:36 am

In post 153, farside22 wrote:Agreed. I have to go back to the game I played with Neil but I remember he was pretty aggressive (I have a feeling this is a null tell with him) and his points were all over the place more. I think.
Will check on this when I have more time.
I'm more leaning him being an arrogant jerk then anything.

i don't know...

slept on it and i might be getting sucked into a bad scumread because 1) he's inflammatory and 2) i'm personally invested because he's baiting me.
re-evaluation of everyone is needed

Antihero · Post Post #172 (isolation #18) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:38 am

wait... what?...

i feel like i just finished watching The Game and now i have to go back and see if it all made sense at the time...

Antihero · Post Post #174 (isolation #19) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:00 am

yeah... so this is why i'm very against people who use the "trapper" approach

Antihero · Post Post #179 (isolation #20) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:11 am

/pukes on the thread

ugh... that feels better

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cephrir

Antihero · Post Post #217 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:14 am

UNVOTE: that was stupid, cephrir is townish. voted him initially because of not voting neil even though he seemingly took my side. meh...

Antihero · Post Post #242 (isolation #22) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:27 am

In post 230, ArcAngel9 wrote:Antihero - Will explain why your voted me on page 3 or so?

i never voted you.

._.

Antihero · Post Post #243 (isolation #23) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:27 am

PV is stuck in a tunnel and that's kind of disconcerting

Antihero · Post Post #244 (isolation #24) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:30 am

In post 228, Aronis wrote:
In post 219, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Im still here... just got busy with things in RL.

Since I want to put the whole thing to bed... my first post was a very bad attempt at crumbing. I was trying not look like I was crumbing. Obvious I am aweful at crumbing. I dont crumb so I dont know how ...Prob should of not tried but too late for that. Was trying avoid admitting it since I didnt want to oust my crumb. That is all I am going to say .....

I am going to reread things and try to give my opinion on things. I am thinking prob a read list but not 100 percent sure if that is what I will do or not.
As scummy as ever I see.

VOTE: Fuzzylogic

no, it doesn't follow
VOTE: Aronis

Antihero · Post Post #245 (isolation #25) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:31 am

angel, you're thinking of actiondan. who actually.... could be scum

Antihero · Post Post #269 (isolation #26) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:59 am

In post 258, mastin2 wrote:So Nero just pinged me and let me know that this game had begun. I'll get to it in a bit.

oh hey mastin

can't wait to hear about how i'm a stupid piece of shit who can't read anyone right to save my goddamn life

Antihero · Post Post #290 (isolation #27) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:31 am

the wow factor...

where
is
the
wow
factor

mastin

Antihero · Post Post #293 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:35 am

i don't know. cephrir was a vote i could have gotten behind because he seemed too much on the fence with me vs neil a while back

i'm probably just seeing stuff that's not there, it's probably another one of my shit-covered reads...

Antihero · Post Post #318 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:42 pm

all hail empress AA9

VOTE: monkeyman

Antihero · Post Post #320 (isolation #30) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:45 pm

In post 300, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I will be reading through later tonight, but ArcAngel's PL crap is very annoying. No one has ever accused her of being the greatest player in mafia history.

In post 305, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Can we try to play without insulting people please? Thank you. Some of us do have a life.

you might want to get the hell out of your glass house before you start throwing those stones

Antihero · Post Post #322 (isolation #31) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:46 pm

6 votes

that's L-3 buddy

Antihero · Post Post #328 (isolation #32) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:29 pm

because the composition of his wagon is more scummy than the bottom of a fishtank

Antihero · Post Post #330 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:33 pm

is this nero?

Antihero · Post Post #334 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:05 pm

In post 332, TheUnderachivers wrote:Why do you ask?

you've come a long way since strangercoug's dungeon, nero. i'm impressed.

... now don't let that go to your head...

Antihero · Post Post #338 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:14 pm

In post 291, TheUnderachivers wrote:
In post 197, neil1113 wrote:And yes I know if TD gets killed / lynched and flips scum, I'm going to look helluva bad... :/
Nevermind, this is town.

I'm also thinking TD town btw.

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if td is town, that completely negates the 'town' factor of the neil thing you quoted

you're really town reading neil? i feel like he really dropped off after the early 1v1 fiasco. also, not sure where the aegor vote's going/coming from...

Antihero · Post Post #345 (isolation #36) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:36 am

L-1

claim

Antihero · Post Post #347 (isolation #37) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:41 am

In post 346, farside22 wrote:I don't see why. Do you have a reason for thinking tunneling is bad for PV?

in general i don't like tunneling, it's a very convenient and easy way for scum to limit their commentary. another consideration is that it's on fuzzy (probtown).

Antihero · Post Post #349 (isolation #38) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:24 am

In post 348, TiphaineDeath wrote:The problem is I've seen monkey get attempted PL'D before, and how frustrated he gets by it, as town, where he is coming from makes sense to me :/.

never was a policy lynch, i thought that point was hammered repeatedly

why does frustration = town?

Antihero · Post Post #352 (isolation #39) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:57 am

In post 350, TiphaineDeath wrote:Monkey frustration in particular, I remember a game i played with him where he was getting policy lynched and was yelling about it. It was a while back, I think he was town.

that doesn't answer my question

1. he's not getting policy lynched (i think this is the 10th time anyone is saying this)
2. is there anything besides poorly applied meta that you can add?

Antihero · Post Post #353 (isolation #40) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:00 am

another question to answer: how does genuine frustration/emotion translate to town?

In post 351, PhDScar wrote:He is at l-1... apparently, but I request ws hold off a lynch a bit longer to many people have not posted nesrly enoug, I'm mostly looking at fuzzy.

really? i'm a lot more curious about ABR, peregrine, and actiondan

Antihero · Post Post #358 (isolation #41) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:22 am

let's just say for the sake of argument that monkeyman actually does think he's getting policy lynched

based just off of that, how does it follow he's town?

Antihero · Post Post #365 (isolation #42) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:53 am

In post 359, TiphaineDeath wrote:Isn't the only current case on him that he decided instantly that he was being policy lynched and that was a bad/scummy reaction and that he has been calling people names and being frustrated and angry since?

no, that's

your

strawman

i know it's "hip" in the site meta now to think that "genuine emotions" are town, but i submit to you that that idea is really fucking stupid

you look at if the words line up with actions. if monkeyman was really interested in reconciling and hunting scum, he would do so, but the only thing that's been posted is ad hominem arguments and appeasement so that he can hide behind a smokescreen of "genuine frustration".

Antihero · Post Post #368 (isolation #43) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:06 pm

In post 360, TheUnderachivers wrote:Anti, what do you think of Neil and Mhork who didn't comment/ignored the monkey situation?

talked about neil earlier:

In post 338, Antihero wrote:hahahahahaha

haha
haha
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hd;lkjajfewaewrea;oi4ewa;oewa

if td is town, that completely negates the 'town' factor of the neil thing you quoted

you're really town reading neil? i feel like he really dropped off after the early 1v1 fiasco. also, not sure where the aegor vote's going/coming from...

i think mhork is probably single-minded; overall, i think less likely to be scum

Antihero · Post Post #369 (isolation #44) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:08 pm

In post 366, MonkeyMan576 wrote:So far 80-90% of what has been posted is BS and a lot of people are trying to make themselves be more town that they actually are and only going after easy targets.

that is correct

one of those people are you

Antihero · Post Post #370 (isolation #45) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:09 pm

Antihero · Post Post #376 (isolation #46) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:46 pm

In post 372, Aegor wrote:Then maybe you should eliminate the soundness of the premise by posting content.

VOTE: ABR

oh yeah? why?

In post 374, TheUnderachivers wrote:that's not really talking about Neil parroting Mhork. I take it you still think he's scum?

Still ok with killing Monkey,

i'm a big picture guy, nero. in large games, there's usually about 3-4 conversations going on a time so ignoring something isn't necessarily bad by itself

FYI: the case on monkey has nothing to do with lack of "content"

Antihero · Post Post #384 (isolation #47) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:45 pm

obvious situation awareness issues aside...

that's pretty bad

Antihero · Post Post #386 (isolation #48) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:03 pm

analysis on key slots that i'm interested in:

Action Dan:
Voted ArcAngel and td with little explanation. Very light content.
Read: Slight Scum

Albert B Rampage:
Very soft spoken, seems to be avoiding content/confrontation. Could be scum or a town power role.
Read: Neutral

Aronis:
Active, yet logical. A good combination for scumhunting if he is town. Hasn't posted a lot recently though.
Read: Neutral

Neil:
Very agressive but seems to backtrack a lot. Might be overactive.
Read: Neutral

PhDScar:
Haven't played with him I think so not really sure of his tendancies. But he looks ok so far.
Read: Slight town

Vezo:
Not much content, but likes to ask questions.
Read: Neutral

a very clear pattern emerges. "neutral" reads and summaries of player's ISO's (as opposed to analysis)

Antihero · Post Post #466 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:26 am

In post 458, neil1113 wrote:This Monkey wagon is terrible... I just can't see scum pushing and helping a wagon get to L-1 so quickly, on their own partner. The WIFOM there is so strong it hurts. Monkey and Tiphaine, the two easiest lynches of the day, and town are just eating them up, giving the scum everything they want. This is so sad.

Confirm Vote: Aegor

I won't compromise to lynch someone I feel is a mislynch. Especially not when I feel scum is leading it hard. By the way, completely noticed your jump off of the wagon strategy so when your mislynch (Monkey) takes place, you can say "I was on the Tiphaine wagon!" Good move to avoid the inevitable VCA Aegor...

^scumposting

Antihero · Post Post #508 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:20 pm

In post 498, Aronis wrote:Are you hinting at your character or just being dramatic?

^scum

In post 500, Cephrir wrote:(No, I was just actually only playing this game because Mhork was in it. Not that I'm not gonna stick it out, but...rawr)

Also, I still think TD is scum from yesterday. I thought his weird attempts at defusing the Monkey wagon were scummy regardless of the flip. Unless you have a better idea for who Monkey's partners could be.

actually, i do

VOTE: neil

Antihero · Post Post #511 (isolation #51) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:24 pm

In post 458, neil1113 wrote:This Monkey wagon is terrible... I just can't see scum pushing and helping a wagon get to L-1 so quickly, on their own partner. The WIFOM there is so strong it hurts. Monkey and Tiphaine, the two easiest lynches of the day, and town are just eating them up, giving the scum everything they want. This is so sad.

Confirm Vote: Aegor

I won't compromise to lynch someone I feel is a mislynch. Especially not when I feel scum is leading it hard. By the way, completely noticed your jump off of the wagon strategy so when your mislynch (Monkey) takes place, you can say "I was on the Tiphaine wagon!" Good move to avoid the inevitable VCA Aegor...

^"i am monkey's scumbuddy" - neil

lynch. this.

Antihero · Post Post #513 (isolation #52) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:27 pm

even completely disregarding monkey's scum PR flip, that post is a scumclaim.

"scum are leading this lynch so hard, so let's go after someone not on the wagon"
if neil was really concerned about the composition of the wagon, he would have looked at the

entirety

of the wagon, not opportunistically jumped on an easy target

Antihero · Post Post #518 (isolation #53) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:44 pm

In post 517, Cephrir wrote:I'm happy lynching either of them. I was going to say "or fuzzy" but I actually like him today.

fuzzy?

what kind of moonbeam methamphetamines are you on?

Antihero · Post Post #522 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:55 pm

yeah, fuzzy is almost as good as a mod-confirmed IC at this point and if you're wondering why, you need to put down whatever the hell you're smoking

speaking of ISOing the flipped scum, though

In post 382, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Neil:
Very agressive but seems to backtrack a lot. Might be overactive.
Read: Neutral

this is pretty damning

Antihero · Post Post #524 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:04 pm

it's not a slip. farside is a pretty competent player; it's tough to imagine she'd throw a rolecop under the bus just like that when there's the easy escape of the monkey VI card. td might be scum for pulling that thread, by the way.

to me the best candidate for busmaster is vezok.

aronis is scum too.

if there's a 5th, peregrine or actiondan

Antihero · Post Post #530 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:06 pm

In post 528, TiphaineDeath wrote:Soooom I need to reevaluate the everything :/. Hopefully things will make sense again shortly.

it's been 3 days. i would think the monkey flip would've had time to sink in with you by now

Antihero · Post Post #535 (isolation #57) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:13 am

AA9 and ABR

: opinions on neil, please

Antihero · Post Post #545 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:48 am

In post 544, farside22 wrote:
In post 535, Antihero wrote:
AA9 and ABR
: opinions on neil, please
Yes I know this is not directed at me, however the last game I was in with Neil, his scum buddy was getting attacked by squirel. He stayed out of the convo. In fact if I recall correctly I believe he add his scum buddy to his scum list without explaining why.
I know he never saw me express that before. I look at things after a game for a reminder for next time.

#metaisfail

what were the circumstances? was the scumbuddy a scum PR or was he expendable? was neil under any suspicion himself at the time?

Antihero · Post Post #546 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:57 am

In post 540, neil1113 wrote:VOTE: TD

I have to completely reevaluate my reads on this game, I guess I WIFOM'd myself out about Monkey with the whole "He looks to scummy to actually be scum, surely scum couldn't play that obvious?" And then he's scum... so I can't defend TD on that same notion anymore.

I knew I'd look back for defending Monkey if he were to flip scum, but I sincerely didn't think he would. I guess that was my mistake.

right...

so, in your own words, why is TD scum?

Antihero · Post Post #547 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:58 am

In post 538, Cephrir wrote:
In post 535, Antihero wrote:
AA9 and ABR
: opinions on neil, please
Let's be real, we're probably going to lynch both of them anyway.

well, posts 536 and 544 happened, so no i don't feel safe with that assumption

Antihero · Post Post #550 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:07 am

In post 548, ArcAngel9 wrote:I pity monkey man... he is literally scum in every single i have played with him except one i guess. He is so d1 lynch material.
Guys... we should lynch in this order

TD
Arnois
Action Dan

neil. needs. to. be. on. this. list. why. is. he. not. on. this. list?

Antihero · Post Post #551 (isolation #62) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:09 am

AA9 if you let neil weasel his way out of this with some bullshit smokescreen of "oh i'm wrong i look bad /shitspants"

i
am
not
going
to
be
happy

Antihero · Post Post #554 (isolation #63) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:14 am

In post 552, ArcAngel9 wrote:I already said that there is something about his first about fuzzy is making me think differently. I am not sure on him at this moment.
If he is scum, we will lynch him but today we are lynching TD.

it's easy to make those kinds of posts when you know everyone's alignment already. don't let it impress you.

Antihero · Post Post #556 (isolation #64) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:21 am

...and the only defense you have is the douchebaggish "ur baaad" card.

yeah, furiously trying to counter-wagon off the scum rolecop isn't a stretch of a case. and yeah, meta doesn't count for shit so i don't want to hear "but i

never

defend scumbuddies".

Antihero · Post Post #557 (isolation #65) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:29 am

In post 555, neil1113 wrote:As for why TD is scummy, I've already said TD looked scummy. Hell I even said Monkey looked scummy, but like I said before, I WIFOM'd myself to death and used the "too scummy to be scum" excuse for town-reading them. If you look back on my ISO when I talked about either figure and when people questioned why I was defending them, you'd see plenty of room for that interpretation if you actually read my posts. Which I assume you didn't bother because I'm "lolz sooo scumz"....

oh? let's do a little fun exercise, then.
ISO: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

ctrl+F "TD"

there's... chainsawing for TD...
this:

I'm sorry by the way to everyone in this game, but I just don't see the case on TD, at least not nearly as much as everyone else does to warrant a vote. I'm still reading TD as sorry town (like apologetic town, not terrible town), and it seems to me like he's just trying to play the game. He's just sheepish that's all.

The direction I'd prefer much more than TD:

VOTE: Aegor

and this:

In post 197, neil1113 wrote:And yes I know if TD gets killed / lynched and flips scum, I'm going to look helluva bad... :/

so no... no it doesn't look like you were ever scumreading TD

Antihero · Post Post #560 (isolation #66) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:40 am

you know, being a shithead isn't going to win you any friends

Antihero · Post Post #561 (isolation #67) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:43 am

In post 559, neil1113 wrote:With the Monkey flip, I realize I was doing that and that is an error in my own logic, a fallacy I was believing that isn't as true as I believed it to be.

so, four years here and the monkey flip is just now the lightbulb moment of "too scummy to be scum is a fallacy"?

no, i completely get what your trying to sell. i'm not buying.

Antihero · Post Post #563 (isolation #68) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:56 am

honestly, now that he's gone nuclear and is beating the "your so stupid" drum, i don't think i can be objective about him either. a big part of me wants him gone just for that now.

see: what mhork was talking about day 1

Antihero · Post Post #578 (isolation #69) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:05 am

had a cup of coffee and i'm back from pissed-off town. sorry that escalated to name-calling, i'll keep out of that zone from now on.

so neil, now that you're done with the character assassination, you mind telling me why you think TD is scum? i read your iso, and it's not explicitly itemized in there.
don't hold back, either. i went to college, i think i'll understand.

Antihero · Post Post #584 (isolation #70) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:13 am

i'm not voting TD. why would i have a case on him?

the stuff you're quoting goes back to page 3 where i don't remember what the hell happened there anyway. to me, the worst thing going against td is that he used misapplied meta to pooh-pooh the monkeyman wagon, but unfortunately using misapplied meta is the standard site-wide play it seems.

if you want why people (in general) think he's scum, ABR's post on the matter is a pretty good summary: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5844556

another thing: if you're the one "checking out", you don't get to hand me the shitbag of shame. if you want to post reads, fine. don't post some guilt trip bullshit about how i'm tunneling and anti-town though.

Antihero · Post Post #589 (isolation #71) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:34 pm

the AtE's not doing anything for me. it's null, boring, and a waste of time.
let me know when you have reads/thoughts about the game.

Antihero · Post Post #618 (isolation #72) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:39 am

In post 616, Aegor wrote:
farside wrote:Yes.
Frankly I have not forgotten my suspicions on you. Anyone that thinks your town....*looks* not really.

And no a hammer on a player that most wanted lynch does not give you auto town points.
Perhaps you should worry about such matters once I actually start passing off my hammer as a basis for townreading me? I think you should have a more open mind.

oh yeah, what's this?

In post 501, Aegor wrote:VOTE: Tiphaine Death obviously.

BTW you are welcome, everyone.

Antihero · Post Post #619 (isolation #73) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:40 am

also, this day does not end without neil posting content

Antihero · Post Post #625 (isolation #74) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:41 pm

In post 623, Aegor wrote:
In post 618, Antihero wrote: oh yeah, what's this?

In post 501, Aegor wrote:
BTW you are welcome, everyone.
Stating the obvious. Did I call myself town? No.

it was implied. if you didn't want recognition for the hammer, you wouldn't have said anything.

Antihero · Post Post #629 (isolation #75) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:44 pm

hey nero/mastin, what's your take on this game? just in general.

Antihero · Post Post #630 (isolation #76) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:59 pm

In post 628, Aegor wrote:Anyway, Anti, do you have a scumblock and/or townbloc?

yes, both
but townbloc is like fight club, you don't talk about it. if you put on your sherlock holmes cap and read my ISO, you can probably figure them out though.

neil and aronis are the scummiest

slots of particular interest are: TD, Aegor, TheUnderachivers, PhDScar, actiondan and vezok

Antihero · Post Post #640 (isolation #77) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:36 pm

In post 633, Aronis wrote:Dammit. Why'd you have to prod me? Is there anything I should respond to or whatev be4 I return to my lurking?

no we all know you're scum, you can go back to lurking

Antihero · Post Post #642 (isolation #78) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:30 pm

In post 635, TheUnderachivers wrote:
In post 629, Antihero wrote:hey nero/mastin, what's your take on this game? just in general.
I mean its not like we are posting at all. I mean Mastin isn't but I don't think its impossible to find my thoughts on the game. This is a 17 player game so 3 scum seems like a pretty normal number for the scum team, I guess a 4th scummer (3rd party or another mafia) isn't impossible but there's really no need to discuss that right away. We've killed Monkeyscum and I think Neil is scum so I'm just waiting on him to get lynched. I did have a tinfoil theory about you and Neil being scum but Mastin doesn't agree with me so... .

Is there something you wanted to discus?

fucking really? neil and i are the scumreads you have?

there's a big wagon on TD, and there's a ton of stuff from 14 other players here. i don't know what to discuss with you. literally anything.

well that was disappointing, does mastin have anything to say?

Antihero · Post Post #643 (isolation #79) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:36 pm

In post 632, farside22 wrote:Why scar?

gut and the fact that i'm having a hard time getting a bead on him

Antihero · Post Post #661 (isolation #80) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:50 am

In post 644, TheUnderachivers wrote:yes really! Though that's not exactly what I said so....misrep?

You are acting real dense here. 3 scum in a 17 player game seems average, we are about to lynch [hopefully today but its looking like tomorrow] our second scum in Neil so its important for me to find the final scum today why? I've already talked about TD back in 577 and he's posted once since then and well...there's not really anything to comment on [about that post], so why are you pretending like I'm not talking about TD when I am? Heck, I might even argue that TD is less likely to be scum since he's a Neil cw. Or maybe TD is scum and he's given up. Who knows? I won't shed any tears if he flips town so I'm not exactly against the lynch. Everything else is noise.

That's why I am paranoid about your slot, these prods for content when its not like our ISO is contentless (and you're asking about things I've already commented on for Christs sake!) look more like an attempt to put some heat on us instead of determine our alignment. And lets face it, we haven't played much at all lately and I doubt you've read up on me so a you scum would prob think I am still an easy mislynch and with a lurking Mastin!

???
i never thought you were a VI. who has? i didn't know you were so... delicate, though.

the only reason you're "of interest" is because of the late unvote on monkey; so yeah, i'm applying a little heat. also, going into a holding pattern when i think i found scum isn't my style.

Antihero · Post Post #663 (isolation #81) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:56 am

In post 645, TheUnderachivers wrote:Since you are dying for content...

In post 389, TheUnderachivers wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Is this the same ABR?
Why don't you go ahead and talk to me about this.

meta is cancer.

i have ABR as town. i like the aggression, it reads town.
also, monkey said he thought ABR could be a PR in his reads list. i don't think that was faked.

Antihero · Post Post #675 (isolation #82) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:34 am

ABR? that's an interesting one.

elaborate on that one?

Antihero · Post Post #701 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:39 pm

In post 695, Aronis wrote:
In post 693, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Antihero, you've been calling Aronis scum for a while, what do you think of swinging the momentum to him now?
And that's why he is scum^. He has no legitimate case on me.

well for one, townies usually don't fish for flavor claims.

Antihero · Post Post #702 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:39 pm

also, i'm going to ask you the same thing i asked neil. why is TD scum?

Antihero · Post Post #713 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:13 pm

In post 704, Aronis wrote:That should explain all of the flavor claims. So while I'm at it, If no one objects, I request that Fuzzy flavor claims.

unless you have good reason to believe fuzzy is scum (like if he's an evil character or something), i would say no. i'd rather keep a lid on it.

aronis' claim actually makes sense in the context of his ISO, though. i wouldn't lynch him.

Antihero · Post Post #715 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:17 pm

In post 712, farside22 wrote:
In post 711, Aegor wrote:Where is the crumb? Why would crumbling be a towntell? My experience has not suggested that at all.
Scum crumble? Fuzzy said it was his first post.
Like I said only once have I seen scum do it. I saw town do it more as vt's to try and get a shot pointed there way.

right.

it takes planning ahead of time for scum to crumb (depending on how subtle they are, they risk locking themselves into a bad fakeclaim).
in hindsight, aronis' is not subtle at all and i'm liking him for town based on the fact that monkey already flipped scum rolecop.

Antihero · Post Post #741 (isolation #87) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:19 am

Antihero · Post Post #743 (isolation #88) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:39 am

In post 742, PeregrineV wrote:^incorrect

no

1) actiondan never questioned the validity of monkey's claim. he was expressing ignorance of the flavor.
2) with that kind of appeasement from monkey, aa9 is very likely town. usually cross-bussing scum get pissed off at each other.
3) my angle in asking neil, specifically, about his TD vote isn't that i'm questioning validity of the TD wagon; i wanted to see if neil himself (in his own words) could say why TD was scummy

Antihero · Post Post #758 (isolation #89) » Sat May 03, 2014 12:02 pm

In post 757, GreyICE wrote:
Vote: ABR

I can smell your townplay a mile away.

This don't smell like it

meta?

VOTE: the goat

Antihero · Post Post #766 (isolation #90) » Sat May 03, 2014 1:30 pm

In post 760, GreyICE wrote:Not meta Anti

People.

Though Aegor is a good vote too.

I was gonna call that one crappola, but it's actually pretty fucking good given who he replaced.

a few things:
1) i inferred from your use of the term "[abr's] townplay" that it was meta. please explain what you really mean?
2) considering the goat hasn't posted, why were you going to call my vote crappola?
3) oh yeah, well your face is crapolla

Antihero · Post Post #771 (isolation #91) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:25 pm

In post 770, GreyICE wrote:1) your mom
2) It's not who I'm voting for. Obvious crapolla vote detected
3) your mom

1) what about my mom?
2) /sigh. great, i get to go back to being the stupid buffoon
3) yeah, my mom probably agrees that i'm a stupid buffoon too. thanks for rubbing it in...

Antihero · Post Post #791 (isolation #92) » Sun May 04, 2014 6:05 am

In post 787, The Goat wrote:Can someone tell me what Aronis claimed? He looked awful in the first 20 pages.

he claimed

flavor

cop, fuzzy. given the 1) extent of the breadcrumbing in aronis' iso prior to the claim and 2) the flip of a scum rolecop already, i'm treating aronis as town.

In post 788, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Are you voting Goat bc you think his slot is scum or is it something else

yeah, because of phd

Antihero · Post Post #795 (isolation #93) » Sun May 04, 2014 3:17 pm

@fuzzy:

i took this as a breadcrumb when i went through aronis' ISO after the claim

In post 452, Aronis wrote:I won a game using 90% flavor.

i might be seeing a butterfly in the rorschach blot, but whatever

Antihero · Post Post #796 (isolation #94) » Sun May 04, 2014 3:28 pm

VOTE: Aegor

the most damning post is probably post 424, which is notably absent from the response

Antihero · Post Post #799 (isolation #95) » Sun May 04, 2014 4:06 pm

so the purpose of the question was..... what?

Antihero · Post Post #801 (isolation #96) » Sun May 04, 2014 4:51 pm

actually it isn't.

were you wondering if you should hammer monkey or not? were you wondering if there were any viable counter wagons? both? neither?

Antihero · Post Post #803 (isolation #97) » Sun May 04, 2014 7:30 pm

that's all well and good, but there's a piece missing

In post 424, Aegor wrote:Is the monkey wagon like a legit end-the-day wagon,
or are we going to transfer to yet another player?

the latter half of the question. did you have a specific player in mind...

see, i think the answer is that you're scum and you didn't know if you actually had to bus monkey or not. you wanted to be sure that monkey was doomed because, as you've already seen, town herds can be a little finicky. this theory especially makes sense given that monkey was an important power role.

Antihero · Post Post #812 (isolation #98) » Mon May 05, 2014 2:34 am

In post 809, GreyICE wrote:Wait, Mastin and Nero Cain hyrdaed for this game?

Can I just call policy and end that abomination?

someone beat you to it, they're already dead

@vezok:

re: scar; agreed. and goat's entrance has been pretty underwhelming so far. still trying to suss out aegor's internal logic, though.

Antihero · Post Post #820 (isolation #99) » Mon May 05, 2014 3:08 am

grey, what are you dong?

Antihero · Post Post #821 (isolation #100) » Mon May 05, 2014 3:08 am

*doing

Antihero · Post Post #881 (isolation #101) » Mon May 05, 2014 4:53 pm

UNVOTE:
VOTE: The Goat

Antihero · Post Post #923 (isolation #102) » Tue May 06, 2014 7:47 am

In post 915, GreyICE wrote:Oh good god you're an alt. What are you, another Katsuki Alt? Can't be, you're posting.

Whatever, you're clown town.

Vote: ActionDan

This piece of shit needs to die

????

he said something that resonated with you?

i can't say the same.

Antihero · Post Post #926 (isolation #103) » Tue May 06, 2014 7:57 am

In post 892, Cephrir wrote:Dear Goat voters,

Stop it. He replaced town. You are dumb.

Sincerely,
Ceph

there's a couple red flags, mostly from gut for me. 1) he takes a lot of digs at fuzzy, 2) the last couple posts of his ISO; it feels like he just kind of plops down when everyone else is trying to get something done (no vote, no "umph" factor).

goat's just kind of ... been here so far. i'd really like to hear something juicy from him.

Antihero · Post Post #927 (isolation #104) » Tue May 06, 2014 8:05 am

In post 924, Aronis wrote:Neil needs to die. This instant.

i know, aronis. his departure from the thread plus the weird post 779 (made even weirder by the fact that neil apparently thought aegor was scum anyway in post 655) is really scummy and duly noted.

Antihero · Post Post #928 (isolation #105) » Tue May 06, 2014 8:07 am

VOTE: neil

screw it.

Antihero · Post Post #938 (isolation #106) » Tue May 06, 2014 8:24 am

In post 930, The Goat wrote:Re:

1) What?

2) Correct, without apology. I'm not going to jump on a train just for the purpose of jumping on a train to make people happy.

Regarding the "juicy umph" factor, you didn't even acknowledge my attempt to make a better entrance, so the heck with that. That was at least a little bit funny.

no, i was talking about phdscar (who cephrir called "town").

Antihero · Post Post #939 (isolation #107) » Tue May 06, 2014 8:27 am

In post 931, The Goat wrote:
In post 929, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I have a big problem with Dan, Peregrine and Neil all disapearing as soon as I called them out.
You already pointed out that Peregrine is active in other threads. It has also been pointed out (Cephrir?) that Dan is not. How about Neil?

(Yeah, I'm asking other people to do work for me. I'm working from home, and need to get stuff done.)

i think neil is active enough in this game. when i said "departure" i was mostly eluding to the fact that neil kind of checked out.

Antihero · Post Post #945 (isolation #108) » Tue May 06, 2014 8:42 am

In post 941, The Goat wrote:My question was actually if Neil is being active in other games while being inactive here. Thanks, though.

1) i meant to say "alluding"
2) i just want to go ahead and dispel this notion that the case on neil is about raw "activity". usually, people will get defensive about it and say "oh yeah, well i have a life / i'm busy in RL / my cute furry puppy got cancer, how dare you say something about my activity" in order to shame the people making a case against them. i just wanted to head that off.

Antihero · Post Post #966 (isolation #109) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:09 pm

i got a message about feeling a disturbance in the Force, but i didn't get any investigative results

Antihero · Post Post #975 (isolation #110) » Tue May 06, 2014 4:45 pm

In post 953, neil1113 wrote:I have a guilty on Aegor. He needs to be lynched. Period.

In post 953, neil1113 wrote:
I have a guilty on Aegor.
He needs to be lynched. Period.

In post 953, neil1113 wrote:
I have a guilty
on Aegor. He needs to be lynched. Period.

you

claimed
a
guilty

YOU

i know i'm really bad, but that clearly looks like a cop guilty claim to me

Antihero · Post Post #986 (isolation #111) » Wed May 07, 2014 2:33 am

In post 985, The Goat wrote:And...wait...Anti was serious about that "disturbance in the force" thing? I thought that was schtick.

nope, i'm serious. i got a mod message last night about feeling a disturbance in the force.

Antihero · Post Post #997 (isolation #112) » Wed May 07, 2014 3:23 am

In post 992, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Without outing your chraracter/ role can you give us more details about this disturbance in the force.

doesn't have anything to do with my role or character (as far as i can tell, my character's not even a force user). it was a separate message from kdub i got right before daybreak. and... yeah, the only thing it talked about was feeling a disturbance in the force. that's it.

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 4:32 am

/sigh, greyice

farside was a secret scumread of mine, but you just had to blow my cover...

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 4:46 am

In post 1003, GreyICE wrote:More than Neil's fakeclaim (which he needs to swing for)

...and no, greyice, actiondan can wait.

preferably, we lynch neil before whatever the hell scum PR he targeted me with takes effect.

if i drop dead, i'm trusting you guys to lynch the shit out of neil (there's a precedence for scum day vigs).

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 4:47 am

In post 1007, GreyICE wrote:Oh come on, she's not even bothering to hide it, why should we hide the fact we know it?

my scumread is mostly built on associatives with the goat/phd slot. sans a goat flip, there's really not much there.

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 5:27 am

In post 1015, GreyICE wrote:lol scummy nom in process. If nothing else because if you're scum you somehow convinced Monkey to post the most town
intercourse
review of a player he could possibly give.

"Albert B Rampage:
Very soft spoken, seems to be avoiding content/confrontation. Could be scum or a town power role.
Read: Neutral"
Seriously if you gave him that to write about you and told him to stick it in his reads list just to give you infinite town cred, I will be blown off my
intercourse
feet.

that's what i said yesterday

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 6:49 am

In post 1022, Aegor wrote:What is with players not voting this game?

People not voting:
Place votes in your next post.

/shrug, there's only 4 of them. 2 are lurkaderps, farside just hasn't posted in a while, and aronis just needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize he's not voting

not sure what the big deal is for you. why aren't you voting neil?

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 6:57 am

so you prefer a lurker lynch over lynching the guy who made a [censored for ABR] up guilty claim on you?

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 7:06 am

In post 1027, Aegor wrote:Also someone walk me through the guilty claim thing because the entire debacle makes very little sense to me. I suppose this may be my rationalization, but it seemed to me that neil was perhaps indicating possession of a guilty result on me via GreyICE's assertion of a mod-confirmed guilty rather than possession of a guilty result he himself had received.

"there is a guilty result on aegor"
"we have a guilty result on aegor"
"greyice has a guilty result on aegor"

those are 3 ways i came up with to say "there's a guilty result on aegor" off the top of my head. i'm sure there's a million more, which neil could have used if that's really what he meant. "

i

have a guilty result on aegor" means something different.

that aside, i'm thinking the action that's supposed to "confirm" neil comes with a message about a disturbance in the force.

that sounds town to you?

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 7:10 am

In post 953, neil1113 wrote:I can easily confirm who I am through Anti when the time comes (even though as of right now, Anti doesn't know this.)

In post 986, Antihero wrote:
In post 985, The Goat wrote:And...wait...Anti was serious about that "disturbance in the force" thing? I thought that was schtick.
nope, i'm serious. i got a mod message last night about feeling a disturbance in the force.

i'm putting two and two together to make four.

i doubt this is a coincidence.

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 7:14 am

In post 1032, ActionDan wrote:Did you think he just forgot about that or what?

who forgot about what?

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 7:34 am

so... i see softclaims for pgo-maker, mason/friendly neighbor, bulletproof...

it's a screwed up fakeclaim parade!

p.edit - no, actually aronis was the hammer

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 7:40 am

i've only watched the movies but whenever someone says "I feel a disturbance in the Force" it's always bad

PGO maker actually makes sense

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 8:03 am

calm down

as soon as i figured out the "disturbance in the Force" thing had to do with neil, i wasn't going to let him live anyway

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 8:14 am

@cephrir:
oh no...

then it'll be the end of the world and we're all going to lose and die!

whine.jpg

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 9:43 am

...and she's not even paying that much attention at that.

In post 1072, farside22 wrote:Damn fuck phone posting shit

http://youtube/UA0kNGaYrtg

Tell me why that would come from scum??

the thing that caused him to feel the disturbance was alderaan blowing up. so yeah, i could see that coming from scum.

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 9:45 am

In post 1066, farside22 wrote:The scum read on goat is what? You want to say someone doesn't come in guns blazing and that's scummy? Because from what I experience from this place very few come in actually doing a read through with points any more.
Prior to that scar did nothing scummy.

eh, goat's been pretty null.
i disagree with your read on phdscar, and i'm wondering what about him is giving you such warm fuzzies that you feel the need to stick up for him (this happened before when i named phd as a slot of interest yesterday).

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 9:53 am

In post 1079, farside22 wrote:The person saying the feel a disturbance not what he is talking about.
You think you got a message from scum because why?

I

felt the disturbance, though.

...what does any of this have to do with obi-wan kenobi?

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 9:56 am

for your benefit, farside:

In post 1031, Antihero wrote:
In post 953, neil1113 wrote:I can easily confirm who I am through Anti when the time comes (even though as of right now, Anti doesn't know this.)

In post 986, Antihero wrote:i got a mod message last night about feeling a disturbance in the force.
i'm putting two and two together to make four.

i doubt this is a coincidence.

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 9:57 am

In post 1081, Aegor wrote:Flavor spec? Really?

yeah

really

at first, i thought it was a fruit vendor thing, but the events in this thread proved otherwise.

whatever neil did to me, i doubt it was positive.

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 10:07 am

In post 1085, farside22 wrote:Bolding where my understanding of Neil's claim seemed to imply.

right. because he targeted me last night, it did [something].

[something] could be killing, attaching with some passive condition, vote removal, etc....

whatever it is, [something] came with a message from kdub about me feeling a disturbance in the force.

therefore, i'm deducing that whatever the [something] is, it's negative

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 10:17 am

oh don't worry neil, you've comfortably made my blacklist (modding and playing). which is quite an achievement because you're the first one to do so.

no more dealing with this
<
stupid ass for you

Antihero · Wed May 07, 2014 10:42 am

In post 1091, neil1113 wrote:The achievement is quite an honor, considering in my 4 and a half years of playing, I've never been told that. So perhaps the ass here isn't me.

i don't think Lord Mhork or farside would agree with you.

I'll also clarify now, I don't have a problem with you as a person, or even as a mafia player. I just think you were off. Badly. That's all.

then you, sir, do not know how to choose your rhetoric (see: anything from day 2).

Antihero · Wed May 14, 2014 2:52 pm

VOTE: farside

Antihero · Wed May 14, 2014 2:59 pm

that aronis push was beyond terrible and there's no goddamn way greyice doesn't get killed over a cop clear for no reason

Antihero · Wed May 14, 2014 3:00 pm

also [night action stuff i won't divulge yet]

Antihero · Wed May 14, 2014 4:08 pm

In post 1148, vezokpiraka wrote:
vote ad

And I hope this night was a good night,

^also scum

Antihero · Wed May 14, 2014 5:16 pm

In post 1147, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1144, Antihero wrote:VOTE: farside
I may as well be straight up, this is what I wanted to do tomorrow

ok... so why aren't you voting farside?

vezok and goat alone are make the actiondan wagon toxic. double for vezok who stumbles in with a bandwagon vote after i softclaimed.

Antihero · Wed May 14, 2014 6:03 pm

time for policy lynch has passed. we're lynching scum.

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 1:21 am

In post 1154, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 1153, Antihero wrote:time for policy lynch has passed. we're lynching scum.
I was a 1-shot empowerer.
I used my ablity last night. So shut up with calling me scum. There is good probability your ability wouldn't have worked if it wasn't for me.

hold the phone

vezok. full claim. right now.

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 4:27 am

In post 1160, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Why wouldn't you use that on N1??

if you used it N1, actiondan would probably be dead right now.

just for next time...

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 4:28 am

In post 1159, vezokpiraka wrote:Also why did you want me to full claim?

because my action still failed, we're missing a kill

a few scenarios i can think of, all of which make me want to reach through my computer screen and throttle kdub

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 4:46 am

In post 1166, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 1165, Antihero wrote:
In post 1159, vezokpiraka wrote:Also why did you want me to full claim?
because my action still failed, we're missing a kill

a few scenarios i can think of, all of which make me want to reach through my computer screen and throttle kdub
I can only think of commuter, hider or bulletproof as reasons.
I doubt there is a hider as I didn't pick up any crumbs.
Commuter on someone you would shoot sounds improbable.
Maybe you tried to shoot the SK? Or scum have someone who is bulletproof?

I think we should lynch who you tried to vig cause it's very probable they are scum.

there's no SK, too few kills.
she's not a hider, she would have been crumbing her innos as she went. BP or commuter are the possibilities i want to reach through my screen and throttle kdub for.

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 5:03 am

bp scum is just balls, especially considering that i'm already gated.

UNVOTE:

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 5:14 am

actiondan and cephrir

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 5:35 am

unless someone else comes forward with a failed action, i don't think vezok's scum

scum bp is shit in a game without SK so i don't think farside is scum either (unless she's really a scum commuter).

greyice was critical of actiondan and cephrir, so i'm thinking one or both of those are scum.

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 5:42 am

eh, no reason to be coy anymore. i've already given enough away.

i'm canderous ordo. i'm a "lock-on" vig. that means i can lock onto someone one night and kill them the next. so, i guess i'm kind of like a delayed vig.

i tried to lock onto dan night 1, but got blocked.
i locked onto aegor night 2.
i changed my mind and locked onto farside night 3.
i shot farside night 4.

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 5:42 am

In post 1174, Albert B. Rampage wrote:GreyIce could be a frame job.

not with a cop clear floating around. you were the obvious kill last night, but they didn't do it.

i think that implies they had incentive.

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 5:48 am

In post 1177, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The reason I asked was because I thought it was odd that you would be able to kill both N1 and N4, but not N2 and N3. Your explanation clears it up. Would you be informed if you were blocked on N3 when you tried to lock farside in?

i'm told if the lock-ons are successful and that one was.

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 5:52 am

wait a sec, we already have a flipped town commuter.

kdub wouldn't have put a bp scum in this game...

...

...right?

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 7:46 am

In post 1187, PeregrineV wrote:Would really like to hear how that day went to fucking fast.

oh, i say good sir
/indignant grumbling

Antihero · Thu May 15, 2014 1:23 pm

In post 1138, Aronis wrote:Aronis, idiot. My flavor result mentioned him being force sensitive andattuned to the lightside.

Antihero · Sun May 18, 2014 5:05 am

In post 1233, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The reason why we've been lynching so fast is because half the town agrees on who to vote and the other half doesn't vote.

nah, i'm with fuzzy on this one, we need to slow down a second because we're obviously off our game.

cephrir is really giving me the creeps about a farside lynch, and i don't like how all the pressure evaporated off actiondan so suddenly.

Antihero · Sun May 18, 2014 6:12 am

i particularly don't like how Cephrir only uses GreyICE's opinions when it suits his purposes.

while greyice never explicitly voted cephrir or actiondan, he was critical of both of them

Antihero · Sun May 18, 2014 9:18 am

In post 1240, vezokpiraka wrote:The only thing which bugs me about Cephrir is that if he is scum it means he shoot lord Mhork who was the sole reason for him joining the game. It's a powerful WIFOM, but Occam's razor still points to him being town.

if cephrir is scum, he doesn't have sole power over the nightkill; there's other people with input.

Antihero · Sun May 18, 2014 10:58 am

In post 1243, Cephrir wrote:re accusing me of protecting Dan, get real pls. You're cherry picking pretty hard to avoid all the posts where I explicitly want to lynch him. If he was lynched today I would not be very upset. Why would I even try to protect such a useless scumbuddy if I was scum with him?

Farside's case on PV is equally uncompelling

"only uses greyice's opinions to suit his purposes" = ???
am I supposed to selfvote?

Antihero: I would never allow my scumteam to shoot mhork particularly given that there seemed to be a fair number of strong town options for shooting day 1 and your insistence on not admitting this point is actually a little scummy. I would have pretty much tried to inthreadmason with him regardless of my alignment. Also, I think it's pretty evident that when I claimed apathy was going to set in once he wasn't in the game I have proceeded to fulfill that promise more than adequately.

1242: I don't remember if I explicitly agreed with greyice at the time but I certainly didn't think it was a bad case. Do I have to explicitly agree with something in the moment for it to be valid?

Antihero · Sun May 18, 2014 11:02 am

In post 1243, Cephrir wrote:I would never allow my scumteam to shoot mhork particularly given that there seemed to be a fair number of strong town options for shooting day 1 and your insistence on not admitting this point is actually a little scummy.

my refusal to accept the WIFOM "he would never shoot mhork" argument is scummy?

el oh fucking el

Antihero · Sun May 18, 2014 2:49 pm

In post 1249, ActionDan wrote:Why would scum have a bp with a delayed vig again. To troll lolol the vig and make him feel worthless.

i agree, but i kind of don't know what to make of the jailkeeper part. a scum bp jailkeeper seems like a kick to the crotch to me, but a town bp jailkeeper seems like a kick in the crotch to scum (here's this powerful PR... and you can't kill her).

Also Vezok is prob scum too. That claim empowering people seems a tad creative and the timing of it is way off

i disagree. at the time, i was talking about suspecting farside as a result of my action and the timing of his claim felt natural. if he faked this as scum, he did a hell of a job.

Antihero · Tue May 20, 2014 6:06 am

this thread is in dire need of more peregrine

Antihero · Tue May 20, 2014 6:59 am

In post 1274, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 1273, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Vero
Why are you so eager to lynch Farside. This is to say why are you so sure he is scum

Pere
What does your schedule look like....ie when will you have time to make post of substance.
9 times out of 10 scum roleblocker will claim jailkeeper.
Also bulletproof jailkeeper is just plain dumb. I don't like the claim. I don't like the way she claimed. All in all she is just scum who knows she's dying.

well, there's already the BP part.

what happened in the game design thread where kdub said, "yeah, let me nerf the vig and then make this scum PR that he can't kill".

how fucked is that?

i mean, unless farside is just making the jailkeeper stuff up (which isn't totally out of the question).

Antihero · Tue May 27, 2014 1:54 pm

this is a test post

Antihero · Wed May 28, 2014 1:29 am

red 3 standing by

Antihero · Thu May 29, 2014 10:56 am

no dan didn't claim.

he needs to though.

Antihero · Fri May 30, 2014 4:35 am

i'm actually in favor of massclaim now.

seriously, a lot of people have already claimed and waiting is just giving more time for scum to decide what to fakeclaim

Antihero · Fri May 30, 2014 7:42 am

please pay attention, peregrine

Antihero · Fri May 30, 2014 7:56 am

In post 1306, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1302, farside22 wrote:
In post 1301, The Goat wrote:Farside, for all intents and purposes, consider my vote on you. And God knows that if I do that, AD could just drop out of a tree and hammer you instantly.

Anything else you'd like to add?
Your lynching a town player that can prevent a kill all because of Wifom.

Lynch dan tomorrow if you don't do it today and if dan is scum like I suspect look into cephirir
Actually, I want 4 names, since scum is 4 players.

if there's 4 scum minus 1 flip, you want 3 names.

4 - 1 = 3

Antihero · Fri May 30, 2014 8:12 am

In post 1313, farside22 wrote:Just a point that hero claimed vig type. Vezo 1 shot, abr confirmed by cop town, me jk and fuzzy claimed vt but I read him as town based on mm interaction early in the game.

...which is why we should massclaim.

Antihero · Sat May 31, 2014 8:43 am

In post 1315, farside22 wrote:I don't disagree with a mass claim. Those that need to claim are goat, dan, abr and perez

right, and cephrir

...and none of those names (except abr) are particularly town-ish.

Antihero · Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:34 am

popcorn massclaim

whoever replaces Dan gets to start

Antihero · Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:45 am

do it

Antihero · Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:02 am

woooooooooooah, back up

if your role is non consecutive, how is it that you were able to take actions every night?

Antihero · Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:07 am

allllright....

my desire to lynch anyone other than Goat or farside is really small.

Antihero · Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:20 am

In post 1342, Cephrir wrote:Why are we flipping out about that? JK + Doc is a pretty common setup...

bulletproof

jailkeeper

doctor

commuter

(...and that's just the claims and flips we have

so far

)

...unless scum have a strongman or something, they're going to have too hard of a time getting off a shot.

Antihero · Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:52 pm

yes

we're waiting on dan's replacement

Antihero · Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:25 am

vezok already went, someone else go

Antihero · Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:26 am

who has yet to claim?
muffinman?

Antihero · Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:47 am

In post 1425, Cephrir wrote:I wish Aronis had claimed better, it's sort of difficult to tell for certain.

i remember it being "attuned to the light side" or something like that.

...not much room for ambiguity there...

i'd lynch cephrir or farside at this point. i'm actually thinking cephrir since i'm still locked onto farside and can shoot her tonight.

Antihero · Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:48 am

yep

In post 1138, Aronis wrote:Aronis, idiot. My flavor result mentioned him being force sensitive andattuned to the lightside.

And if I am not mistaken, Dan was suspicious because of my quick hammering. And what does he do...

Antihero · Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:56 am

VOTE: cephrir

Antihero · Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:00 am

In post 1447, zMuffinMan wrote:eheheheh

you're scum, cephrir

who are you scum with? vezok and .... is cabd being bussed by the two of you? or is farside scum and you guys are doing some scum theatre?

YES

vote him plz

Antihero · Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:00 pm

In post 1516, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm calling vezok's ability a scum power.

Vote: Vezok

Let's shake things up.

/buzzzzzz

wrong

Antihero · Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:11 am

In post 1531, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Cephrir is the only one that shares as much apathy as me about this game, don't lynch him please.

apathy is a towntell?

since when?

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:52 am

could've been such a great game. town did not do nearly as badly as people are saying.

i'm bitter that one person had to ruin it.

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:52 am

can we have the scum QT?

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:57 am

it was OK, but it's hard to say because i took you out of my scumpool after the "cop clear".

can i please play a scum game with you were i don't get a bullshit inno?

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:01 am

greyice was onto ya'

... i wifomed him with what was eventually a bad argument though... /blech

guess if i sheeped greyice before aronis gave the bogus result we could have won...

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:09 am

In post 1670, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I thought I played well.

i think you did well, but ... yet again... you got a couple really lucky breaks (me not being able to kill actiondan AND the fake innocent) that make it hard to objectively judge

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:28 am

In post 1674, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1670, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I thought I played well.
I think it's safe to say that with your standard play, you got a wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lot more mileage out the innocent than some other players may have gotten.

well yeah, that's true.

i really

want

to stop being sour grapes, so i think i'll do that.

/shake hands. good game scumteam. farside and abr, i think you guys utilized your daytalk well and you did really well considering the ball and chain around your ankles that was actiondan. also, farside, you really knew the heartstrings to pull to get the cephrir mislynch.

don't feel bad about the lylo call, vezok; i know it was tough and, for what it's worth, i think you've really improved from your VI days.

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:40 am

In post 1678, ActionDan wrote:
In post 1675, Antihero wrote:well considering the ball and chain around your ankles that was actiondan
Targetting me was intended.

so you just happened to know the vig mechanic that made you essentially BP?

no. you got lucky.

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:55 pm

In post 1687, Aronis wrote:
In post 1686, ActionDan wrote:
In post 1682, Albert B. Rampage wrote:He lurked all game. Blacklisted from all my games onward.
suck my cock you cunt
Y'all are the nicest and most caring people I've ever met.

you're one to talk.

you threw your whole team under the bus based on your selfish spiteful impulse. that's disrespectful in my book.

Antihero · Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:04 pm

In post 1684, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Sory about disappearing///// After the rebbot the stupid site would let me log in. I would logi in than 3 sec later it would log me out. Than I moved and had no internet.....Really wanted to be part of this game. Was really invested in this game but circumstances would not let me continue. So yeah Sorry guys... felt like I really let my team down

haha, these things happen fuzzy.

you actually did a really great job at signaling that you were town. kudos for that.