NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

DeathNote · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:44 am

^Impatient Scum.

DeathNote · Post Post #59 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:29 pm

In post 56, Malakittens wrote:VOTE: Mollie

Hi UT! Hi Deathnote! Hi Ythan! Hi Poro!

hi

Also, you voting Mollie instead of saying hi made me laugh.

vote: Nikanor

Die impatient scum die

DeathNote · Post Post #60 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:36 pm

In post 15, Marquis wrote:I really hope Nikanor is Super Ultra Mega Hyper Potion Hated.

Weird

In post 20, Marquis wrote:
In post 18, Nikanor wrote:plus it's almost her scumday
you guys are so heartless omg
can't we all just get along
We should lynch her before she powers up

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elyse

Weirder....

In post 34, Marquis wrote:
In post 30, tman2nd wrote:@Tripod Do you want to explain your vote?
Do you want to ask everyone else to explain their vote, or have you already chosen today's mislynch?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: tman2nd

Ok wtf is this real life?

In post 35, Untrod Tripod wrote:aaaaaand Marquis is town. town block party!

unvote vote tman

HOW?!?!?!?!

In post 51, Nikanor wrote:well if that exchange wasn't weird as fuck i don't know what is.

Yeah... I know.

unvote

Vote: Marquis

Or am I just being trolled?

DeathNote · Post Post #61 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:38 pm

@Mollie- Is Elyse scum? I kinda got caught up in the weirdness and didn't notice your exchange with her? Or am I premature in asking this...

DeathNote · Post Post #63 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:53 pm

In post 62, pirate mollie wrote:deathy can not be scum in the first 5 pages it confuses me

how am supposed to properly bus my scumbuddies!

plz help

Ok thats fine just ignore my question.

DeathNote · Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:22 pm

In post 65, Marquis wrote:WEIRD AS FUCK!

MUST BE SCUM!

Documented proof that he said it first.

DeathNote · Post Post #102 (isolation #6) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:26 am

or have you already chosen today's mislynch?

This is what bothered me in that quote Marq. A player who doesn't take accusations seriously just looks scummy to me. Your "weird" posting catches my attention because I don't see the intent to scumhunt, just to post without putting up info for us to go on.

DeathNote · Post Post #103 (isolation #7) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:32 am

Attempting to discredit my vote by saying weird=/=scum isn't going to work. The basis of my vote wasn't strictly because he is a weird player.

All three of those posts that I quoted- 15, 20, and 34 had one common factor and that was him pushing mislynches, even if it was in a joking, "weird" way. You want to mess around like that once, fine... but when you consistently posting in an anti-town fashion, the I feel that warrants a vote.

DeathNote · Post Post #105 (isolation #8) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:44 am

In post 104, pirate mollie wrote:deathy will you plz help me bus her it is either her or you and I really don't care which except I am more sentimental about you so can we lynch plz your
scummate
dear friend elyse now tia

There are just so many things wrong with this sentence... -_-

Mollie, don't distract me dear.

DeathNote · Post Post #109 (isolation #9) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:11 am

In post 106, pirate mollie wrote:okay so what do you think of her read on you?

I am having a hard time following Elyse's reasoning and usually when that happens, I just ignore them.

Ok...so why did you pretend you didn't see my interaction with mollie when you clearly did and why did you rely on mollie's opinion rather than choosing your own? Also you didn't follow up on that question when mollie answered it so I assume it wasn't important...which brings me back to why you pretended to not see it.

Like... honestly, I don't know where these assumptions are coming from. Moon logic confuses me.

What does me acknowledging Mollie's exchange with you have to do with my read on Maq?

I am a simple man, explain it too me slowly if that's the problem.

DeathNote · Post Post #113 (isolation #10) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:30 am

You're honestly trying to play this off as something you did deliberately? I read it as you coasting and throwing shit to see what sticks.

And now you are putting words in my mouth which is stupid. No one else who has voted did it with the sarcastic tone of mislynching. I just don't by your posting as legit and it comes across as forced scum play.

DeathNote · Post Post #114 (isolation #11) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:31 am

In post 111, Porochaz wrote:
In post 78, Zekrom25 wrote:RVS: Random Voting Stage. Most Mafia games start with a phase wherein people vote for silly reasons,
until someone slips up or makes a legitimate accusation.
This is a sentence.

I love you poro.

DeathNote · Post Post #179 (isolation #12) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:55 pm

Just got off work and tired.

I haven't read much sense my last post and will catch up tomorrow.

UT- do you actually have an opinion yet? Does your last post mean Nikanor is town?

DeathNote · Post Post #257 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:33 am

Elyse wrote:It doesn't have anything to do with your read on Marquis.

Answer the question

Maybe you are not understanding me not understanding you so I will rephrase myself. What question are you asking because this:

why did you pretend you didn't see my interaction with mollie when you clearly did and why did you rely on mollie's opinion rather than choosing your own?

Doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

In post 135, Nikanor wrote:tman2nd, there's something I should tell you.
There's this thing
It's called Humour.
Sometimes people use Humour in their speech. When they do that, it means they're not being serious.
Sometimes people have bad Humour. And that's okay too.
But you need to learn how to detect when a person is using Humour.
It makes mafia so much easier to play.

That is all.

^This. Seriously Tman, your getting worked up by anyone who has just the slightest sense of sarcasm. I get it, I pressure people who joke around too much too (Marq) but you just take everything too literal.

You are also not lynching UT. I would really like it if he would become helpful but he is more then likely town.

@UT- stop playing like your drunk off your ass, ass.

In post 136, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 130, Nikanor wrote:hey why are people saying that mollie is scum, she seems nice enough.
except for the backhanded accusations at deathnote i guess.
hey pirate mollie why are you being mean to dethy
cos you guyz are scum

will you plz help me lynch elyse or deathy

Can you just let Elyse buss me in peace? Jeeze...

On a more serious note, Tunnel Vision needs to be turned off now. You are honestly becoming a scum read for me.

G.C. wrote: Why do you think scumminess is the reason why people don't post Super Serious in the first 35 posts of a game?

I don't think this is how I would have worded this question but I think I understand what you are asking? Would you agree that most players play differently as scum then they would as town? That is how they are normally found out. Some players even go to extremes by posting in a drastic fashion. For example, I tend to be slightly less aggressive as scum while posting more nonsense. My extreme is spamming posts while be unsure of what I really want. I have seen other players not post at all as scum while being active as town. Everyone's play style is different but I suppose that's common knowledge right? In this case, I see his erratic play and "sarcastic" mislynch push as scummy because he is playing to an extreme.

Is anyone else noticing how Mala isn't committing to anything?

<----- Ok the next page, I think she is town but... before page 9 was kinda bothering me.

Pacman wrote: a vote is a decision, one that town shouldn't make if they're unsure on how to understand something

This is only partially true because there are times when people vote without knowing what they really want. RVS is a perfect example. Just because I threw out a quick somewhat-serious vote doesn't mean that I am committing myself to that person. I just wanted pressure on someone who I thought deserved it.

Caught up, just wanted to say that RC votes are bad. She is an easy wagon and not likely scum. Although... I am stating this mostly for meta reasons.

I just sort of ignore her and consider her a sheep vote if she is town. Sorry RC

DeathNote · Post Post #262 (isolation #14) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:14 am

Glad to have helped!

And it isn't that RC isn't scum per say... just that and RC lynch is extremely likely pushed by scum if she is town. It makes it hard to deal with her.

DeathNote · Post Post #281 (isolation #15) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:43 pm

In post 266, Elyse wrote:@DeathNote
In post 61, DeathNote wrote:@Mollie- Is Elyse scum? I kinda got caught up in the weirdness and didn't notice your exchange with her? Or am I premature in asking this...
My questions all revolve around this post. I'll try to break it down for you.

1. Why are you asking mollie for her read on me rather than reading for yourself and coming up with your own read on me?
2. If you were just asking for mollie's read on me, then why didn't you follow up when she ignored you?
3. You said you "got caught up in the weirdness and didn't notice mollie's exchange with me." How is this possible? You just mentioned it, so obviously you noticed it.
4. The game was on page three when you posted this, so why couldn't you have gone back and read it yourself once you weren't "caught up in the weirdness" anymore?

It's like you asked mollie about a car accident that you didn't see. How did you know there was a car accident?

Ok I apologize. I didn't know what question you were referring too.

I asked Mollie about her read on you because she wasn't be clear. Was her vote on you strictly RVS or was she actually accusing you of scum. I just wanted to spark a little more insight from her. Asking someone who is scum or is "X" player scum is a common thing to do. I do it all the freaking time. I want the player to elaborate more or maybe I just respect their reads.

When she ignored me, I did call her out. I then went to bed and wasn't able to post til the next day on my quick 2 hour break (more like hour cause i had to eat.) I didn't follow up anymore then what I did because I got caught up with Marq.

At this point, not that I see that post again... I don't really care to follow up because Mollie is showing me more and more of her alignment so my want to know her opinions is going down.

DeathNote · Post Post #328 (isolation #16) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:22 am

Because its excessive?

DeathNote · Post Post #332 (isolation #17) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:44 am

Everything stims from something. I just pushed something that caught my eye and have really enjoyed were it went.

I think you are likely scum. The same goes for Mollie who I will probably end up having to switch too because so many people find you town. Fake claiming IC muse have done wonders for you.

DeathNote · Post Post #349 (isolation #18) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:29 am

Does anyone actually read those quote walls?

DeathNote · Post Post #411 (isolation #19) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:49 am

Work now... post later.

unvote

Lost interest in Marq. STFU you're still weird.

Kinda wanting to proxy my vote on Poro.

Will actually catch up again on my break.

DeathNote · Post Post #412 (isolation #20) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:49 am

^That should say proxy my vote with poro, not on.

DeathNote · Post Post #503 (isolation #21) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:12 am

This game is dumb. What were my reads again?

DeathNote · Post Post #514 (isolation #22) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:36 am

Elyse is rude.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda....

vote: Zeek

Proxy vote with Poro please.

DeathNote · Post Post #531 (isolation #23) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:50 am

UT, you're an idiot.

DeathNote · Post Post #619 (isolation #24) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:57 pm

In post 565, Untrod Tripod wrote:no one asked for your claim zekrom good lord

unvote vote formerfish

deathnote can wait tman can wait this shit is scum or awful but either way it needs to die

In post 562, Untrod Tripod wrote:holy fuck did you SEE that formerfish vote?

DID YOU FUCKING SEE IT?

HE'S NOT EVEN PRETENDING TO TRY TO PARTICIPATE

I understand now why you were voting me. You are still an idiot.

In post 617, Untrod Tripod wrote:I really want this to be a scum dayvig killing scum

there's like no way but I really want that to be what happened

Like me on Faraday!!!! Only I won that game.

DeathNote · Post Post #620 (isolation #25) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:58 pm

I banked tonight... seriously.... I am going to buy you all a pistol so you can day vig whoever the fuck you want because I made so much fucking money.

DeathNote · Post Post #622 (isolation #26) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:00 pm

In post 621, Formerfish wrote:Male stripper at a gay nightclub?

More then that bitch

DeathNote · Post Post #637 (isolation #27) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:16 pm

Don't sas me you jerk. I am just saying that you pushed me for the same damn reason you pushed FF and you're an idiot.

DeathNote · Post Post #653 (isolation #28) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:32 pm

In post 647, Untrod Tripod wrote:(ps DN if you didn't get it I'm saying you're doing that thing where someone with no credible counterargument attacks the arguer instead of the argument itself)

I thought you knew me better then that. You're an idiot is my way of arguing. Not like you really had anything for me to argue with anyways... hell all the people you are pushing for haven't done anything scummy by definition, they are just making bad plays. Plays that are made all the time by bad players. Not by scummy players.

Stop being an idiot.

DeathNote · Post Post #671 (isolation #29) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:15 pm

Wtf are you talking about no reads?

I have pushed Marq most of the day. I have claimed town reads on RC and Poro. I stated that I was considering voting for mollie. I have specified players just as much as you have and at least the people I pushed weren't just simple mislynch material.

UT, I don't think you are scum right now but lord help anyone who follows your lead on lynches.

DeathNote · Post Post #676 (isolation #30) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:32 pm

My reads still stand.

at least the people I pushed weren't just simple mislynch material.

DeathNote · Post Post #679 (isolation #31) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:43 pm

Do you want to just play this game for me? Seems like thats what you want.

My vote stays where I want it to because it's my fucking vote. I want to proxy it with Poro. Deal with it.

at least the people I pushed weren't just simple mislynch material.

DeathNote · Post Post #682 (isolation #32) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:49 pm

Ythan, don't buddy him. He is just going to drag you down.

I made it my sig for you UT. I figured I would get tired of quoting it over and over.

DeathNote · Post Post #686 (isolation #33) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:56 pm

It's whatever, then I wont have to play mafia anymore. I freaking hate this game...

Damnit Des for advertising in the Reckoning Thread.

I am probably just going to change my meta to screw everyone I hate you all because thats how I end up feeling every game I play.

DeathNote · Post Post #693 (isolation #34) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:07 pm

man there you go again just trying to play the game for me.

I know I am bad. I am not a lylo kinda guy... I am a "he played a really good game for making it to day 3" kind of guy. You just got a stick up your butt for some reason. You don't think I am town, fine. I don't think you have done anything to help town either.

Your pushes have been terrible and you have this big boy mentality of picking on the little guys and it pisses me off.

Just stop putting words in my mouth.

DeathNote · Post Post #694 (isolation #35) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:09 pm

In post 692, Marquis wrote:wait fuck i forgot his claim

i'd give him one night to confirm it??? idk but i don't think he'll be nightkilled anyway if real so..... actually idk the correct play in this situation

I want to lynch you.

DeathNote · Post Post #696 (isolation #36) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:12 pm

In post 695, Marquis wrote:I know

UT doesn't.

DeathNote · Post Post #700 (isolation #37) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:46 pm

unvote

Sorry if this makes me look bad but screw it. I can't lynch him.

DeathNote · Post Post #784 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:43 am

I don't really think it is that confirmable either but only because we don't know what roles there are.

Fish just claimed a doctor, if he is town then that means his role is 1 of many that could prevent a vig shot. If both a vig and a doc are in this game as town, I wouldn't be surprised to see a roleblocker.

Keeping people alive to "test" their abilities just leads to a mountain of wifom.

DeathNote · Post Post #785 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:44 am

I am fine with what UT suggests.

DeathNote · Post Post #788 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:47 am

Nope. Hell, if you don't lynch me. I fully expect you to lead a vig kill on me.

DeathNote · Post Post #790 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:56 am

In post 789, Untrod Tripod wrote:the vig shot wouldn't be for you. if you die I want it to be from eating rope.

Thats fine.

DeathNote · Post Post #821 (isolation #42) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:59 pm

In post 820, Untrod Tripod wrote:My favored lynch pool today is Marquis and DN.

vote: Marquis

DeathNote · Post Post #946 (isolation #43) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:22 pm

Yeah... Sthar is likely town...

Those pushing that should stop because even if he is somehow scum, there are FAR better lynches.

DeathNote · Post Post #952 (isolation #44) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:34 pm

My line of thinking is that I

don't

think he is

scum

but NO ONE in the game is confirmed town yet so there is always that possibility. I don't want to lynch someone just because they might be scum according to you especially when there are so many other people who are surpassingly more scummy.

DeathNote · Post Post #990 (isolation #45) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:00 pm

UT is not scum.

The only thing he has done remotely scummy is push on easy lynches but that is partially negated by the fact a majority of the playerlist is easy lynchbait...

We should lynch Marq. I think he is giving up on being town and just here to scum-troll us. Maybe it is just me... it is probably just me... but every post I read of his says "I'm scum but you won't lynch me cause lols. Here are some smileys."

DeathNote · Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:12 pm

We need to give Zek an option of 2 or 3 people honestly... directing it towards one person means that scum know where that kill is going.

That just leaves too much up to wifom with roleblockers/doctors/bulletproof whatever else you can think of.

DeathNote · Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:58 am

In post 1090, Elyse wrote:Why are we lynching a doctor without a counterclaim on Day 1? That's stupid.

Also v/la until Monday.

Do you expect there to be a counter claim?

DeathNote · Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:00 am

Also wtf scum vig? You don't honestly suspect that to be a role in this game do you?

DeathNote · Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:46 am

I am not counting on their being a scum team with a vig.

DeathNote · Post Post #1158 (isolation #50) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:56 am

We have too many people just throwing out vig shot ideas. We need to establish a set pool of

4 at most

and then make sure Zek sees it and understands he is to kill these people and no one else.

I am just worries we will get to tomorrow with a spare kill on some random ass person like pisskop who will end up flipping something important and then the whole town rages. Zek, meanwhile, just says "Sorry I thought Pacman wanted that."

I admit, I haven't been paying that much attention to Sthar so I will iso him I guess and see what all the hype is about.

DeathNote · Post Post #1162 (isolation #51) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:03 am

If we limit it too low then Scum know more about who Zek will kill. I don't want scum to leave Zek alone just because they know he is targeting town.

DeathNote · Post Post #1188 (isolation #52) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:13 pm

Damnit Sthar... reading your posts takes freaking forever.

DeathNote · Post Post #1190 (isolation #53) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:34 pm

In post 826, sthar8 wrote:
In post 823, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 819, sthar8 wrote:
In post 817, pirate mollie wrote:star and I have never been on the same team
are you scum this game?
are you freaking kidding me

this is more along your likeable scum game than the 1 time I saw you as town

The only time you saw me as town was when I replaced into a 100 page game right before lylo. I had to get serious there fast. I was just wondering if we get to be on the same team finally.

Your reaction looks good though

(also I totally sent a bitch-pm to desp when he sent me a town role. You can check with him in post. I was kinda hoping to be scum with you. Then I realized that ABR wouldn't have replaced out if he were scum.)

I dont know guys... this is the only post of Sthar's that really bothers me. I suppose his interaction with Mollie... like any time he talks with her... kinda rubs me wrong. Why are you so concerned with mollies read on you? It seems like you are investing more in this game on placating her then actually scum hunting. Marquis is your scum read, correct?

But the posts that you quote and the case you make doesn't really show me why you think Marq is scum. I mean... I agree, I think Marq is a great lynch but I don't really understand why you think that.

DeathNote · Post Post #1192 (isolation #54) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:48 pm

In post 1191, Ythan wrote:My understanding is that it is because Marquis had the second most votes.

lol

This is a very snide game I am playing....

DeathNote · Post Post #1218 (isolation #55) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:03 am

Scum roleblocker makes more sense then Town roleblocker.

Three claimed PRs... all of them reek of scum. WTF is this game?

DeathNote · Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:53 am

Marq needs to die.... honestly.

DeathNote · Post Post #1364 (isolation #57) » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:53 pm

Vote:Zek

Like... I honestly don't know why there is any debate on who today's lynch is. Zek made a claim that he isn't able to prove with a dead doc plus a dead roleblocker? What the hell is the reasoning on why his kill was "stopped"?

Zek needs to die. End of story.

In post 1355, Cabd wrote:Oi oi back the fuck up.

Zekrom is CONFIRMED FUCKING SCUM right here boys and girls.

VOTE: zekrom

I'm the actual fucking oneshot vig. I tried to shoot him last night, fucker's probably mafia bulletproof.

Votes not for zekrom or me are scumclaims past this line:

------------------------------------------

Also this just essentially confirmed Zek scum and maybe even Cabd as town? I hold the right to reserve judgement on that.

BTW:

In post 1326, Malakittens wrote:VOTE: Mollie

Serious vote.

You remind me of Shos when he discredited every single one of my crumbs in OGM. Shos was scum;therefore you are scum by default.

Also;

I think I'm down for a Zek lynch, but not voting because not many people have posted and I don't want a quick lynch to end this day off, tbh.

^Buddy

DeathNote · Post Post #1365 (isolation #58) » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:53 pm

In post 1363, Ythan wrote:So why not just shoot the fake-claimed vig?

He claimed he did.

DeathNote · Post Post #1411 (isolation #59) » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:51 pm

I don't mind Cabd getting reads in before the game ends. Zek flipping scum essentially guarantees his death tonight and I would love to actually have something to go off of from his reads the next day.

DeathNote · Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:28 am

In post 1489, evilpacman18 wrote:
unvote

I hope nobody still thinks Marquis is scum

i do

DeathNote · Post Post #1534 (isolation #61) » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:31 am

In post 1530, pirate mollie wrote:I think it is really funny how we all know that cabd is scum with his claim and gooner not uttering a peep yet every1 is still lynching zekrom

Do you really think this matters at this point? We have a confirmed scum between the two of them because they BOTH claimed to have shot each other. This means it doesn't matter who we lynch but my preference goes to Zek personally because I would rather have a town Cabd.

The only issue I am having is that Cabd seems smart enough to be scum and counter claim his scummy scum buddy but that is a problem I can think about tomorrow.

DeathNote · Post Post #1538 (isolation #62) » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:29 am

But mollie you haven't addressed the actual part of my post that was directed at you...

Do you think it matters which of Zek/Cabd is lynched today?

DeathNote · Post Post #1631 (isolation #63) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:58 pm

DeathNote · Post Post #1633 (isolation #64) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:54 pm

Nothing. Just got Prodded.

Vote: mala

This seems like a scum slot.

DeathNote · Post Post #1647 (isolation #65) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:19 pm

In post 1644, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1643, Elyse wrote:I was more active and confrontational Day 1.

You were active and made posts that resonated with me.

But since I have been wrong before, and know this, I require constant Elyse-town reassurance in the form of you town-posting some more.

Can you do that please?

Can you trying showing us why you are town too?

Do you have any scum reads?

DeathNote · Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:22 pm

Tman the parrot.

Honestly

, I am down to lynch one of the following:

Tman
Peregrine
Mala
Nikanor
Marquis

DeathNote · Post Post #1660 (isolation #67) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:12 am

In post 1655, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1647, DeathNote wrote:
In post 1644, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1647, DeathNote wrote:Do you have any scum reads?
Sure I do.
Green Canyons & pirate mollie.
I thought Marquis, but he may have done something to remove it.
Serrapaladin is hanging around this area too, for now.

Null
5. pisskop
17. evilpacman18
20. tman2nd
Deathnote

Town
10. Malakittens
6. Yates
9. Untrod Tripod
11. Elyse
13. Nikanor
14. Ythan
15. Porochaz
18. RadiantCowbells

In post 1657, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1652, DeathNote wrote:Tman the parrot.

Honestly
, I am down to lynch one of the following:

Tman
Peregrine
Mala
Nikanor
Marquis

A brief line of "why" for each could bolster support for lynching that person.

You show me yours, I'll show you mine.

DeathNote · Post Post #1662 (isolation #68) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:17 am

Yeah, I even saw your post in preview but decided screw it, I need to state my opinion anyway...

DeathNote · Post Post #1682 (isolation #69) » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:39 am

Yates- [noun]

Plural- Yates

A creature that stands precariously upon a thin object, usually a fence or bench.

UT- I saw Marq vote as a possible buss but I am totally down to kill Marq. My read on him hasn't changed in the slightest.

Unvote
Vote: Marq

Malascum is viable.

DeathNote · Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:13 am

Dude, I am not going to pick through YOUR iso to make YOU give opinions about the game. If you want to just throw out reads without supporting them, thats your prerogative. By asking for you to explain reads, I have already done my part.

DeathNote · Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:19 am

haha it doesn't kinda look like I am responding to you though...

DeathNote · Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:36 am

In post 1713, RadiantCowbells wrote:The thing is I had a heavy scumread outside of UT before the info got erased and now I'm just trying to figure out who it was.

VOTE: UT for now.

Seriously? The five or so pages that we are missing really screwed up your reads that bad?

DeathNote · Post Post #1765 (isolation #73) » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:54 am

Here, had a busy weekend. Will read up.

DeathNote · Post Post #1788 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:50 am

Everyone should stop derping around and pick a wagon. There are plenty of good lynches today.

I completely agree that Mala is likely scum based off interaction with Zek. I still think Marq or nikanor are good lynches as well.

While on the subject of buddy tells, I really think that Marq bussed the shit out of Zek.

vote: Mala

Only because I think UT and Poro are town and I would rather be voting a scum read of mine with town then a scum read of mine with unknown.

DeathNote · Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:05 am

Mollie has a habit of tunneling which leads me to believe she might be town? I really don't care enough to read into her at this point with so many other better options.

RC is town. The best we can do with her is try and convince her to vote with town.

DeathNote · Post Post #1832 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:12 pm

I stated RC to be town long ago.

Caught up, just wanted to say that RC votes are bad. She is an easy wagon and not likely scum. Although... I am stating this mostly for meta reasons.

I just sort of ignore her and consider her a sheep vote if she is town. Sorry RC

Nothing RC has done has changed my read.

DeathNote · Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:53 pm

In post 1868, Marquis wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: notscience

for being pacman and not seeing me as obvtown when he knows better by now

dont hammer please, looking something up that I want to post in thread before day ends.

DeathNote · Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:53 pm

Oh... sorry, I had quoted that last post because I was wanting to say this was relevant to my interests.

DONT HAMMER YET

DeathNote · Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:55 pm

In post 1104, Nikanor wrote:a) i doubt that zekrom25 is anything but a town vig. the only exception i can think of is if the scum have daytalk and coached him into making that claim when he did.
b) i doubt that marquis is anything but town, period. seriously, why are people voting him?

Ok found it.

This post looks hella scummy to me right now based on what Mala claimed and what she flips. Just wanted to point it out before day ends.

Hammer away.

DeathNote · Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:24 am

Look the day started again......

Starting to think I should replace out based off how little I care about the players in this game. No enthusiasm.

I think Nikanor is a good lynch today.

In post 394, Nikanor wrote:
In post 393, Zekrom25 wrote:
In post 387, Marquis wrote:This discussion is tiresome let's lynch zekrom now I demand it
i can't help myself any longer

OBJECTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please replace out.
thanks.

In post 396, Nikanor wrote:i'm not a fan of you.

In post 537, Nikanor wrote:
In post 454, Gooner wrote:I'm getting more and more sure that Zekrom's town the more votes hit him. That last vote from Ythan was poor.
i hate zekrom25 but the wagon is kinda bad tbh. there are way better lynches.
dethy is still town, not sure why people are voting for him?
votes on formerfishy are good votes.
Gooner is still scum. His townread on Zekrom should be impossible. it looks like he's calling zekrom town just for the hell of it.
Poro's looking townier for his posts.
pisskop is really obviously scum, his vote on zek is godawful, we should lynch him tomorrow or something.

These quotes all indicate Nikanor's strong dislike for Zek but no intention to vote him. In face, Nik calls Zek town... there was no problem with this back then but based off this next post.

In post 1104, Nikanor wrote:a) i doubt that zekrom25 is anything but a town vig. the only exception i can think of is if the scum have daytalk and coached him into making that claim when he did.

Yeah Nik is probably scum that was pissed off at Zek for his bad play then coached him into a claim using day talk. I consider this post a slip.

vote: nikanor

DeathNote · Post Post #2001 (isolation #81) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Maybe I am misunderstanding the word slip but in this situation, it appears as if you brought up day talk because that is what is on your mind. You slipped by revealing info about your team's powers (daytalk).

DeathNote · Post Post #2003 (isolation #82) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:26 pm

I'm going to be sincerely pissed if I'm lynched for the one thing that I was right about this game.

There is also the possibility that you let your day talk slip because you wanted to get town credit.

DeathNote · Post Post #2004 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:27 pm

In post 2002, Untrod Tripod wrote:That doesn't make him scum. At all.

Doesn't make Nik scum? Why? Do you not consider that a slip?

DeathNote · Post Post #2007 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:35 pm

I am surprised you don't see that post as anything but Nikanor defending his buddy while slipping up his team's daytalk ability.

Frankly, I don't care because once he gets lynched and flips scum, then I know for sure that my reasoning wasn't all that "flawed" lol

DeathNote · Post Post #2017 (isolation #85) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:27 am

In post 2012, Nikanor wrote: Honestly? I think that if anything, your attack on me makes you scum. I'm guessing that the only reason for why you remembered that quote of mine is because you knew that you could call me scum for it once Mala flipped.
And if you're town... saying "I don't care about counter-arguments because I know I'm right!!!" Is incredibly arrogant and a bad way to play mafia.

There is no arguing with UT and I don't want to start bitching with him again when it is obvious he won't change his mind. UT plants himself on his reads/opinions once people question it and it is impossible to get him to change his mind.

My "I don't care" is the best I can do against him but if you want to try and convince me how you are town then feel free. Claiming I am scum for making a case against you does not convince me you are town just fyi...

DeathNote · Post Post #2018 (isolation #86) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:31 am

I also want Elyse to answer GC's questions. I just did a quick ISO and Elyse's activity has fallen off drastically.

@Elyse- Why are you entering active lurker stage? Your posts were much more thought out early game.

DeathNote · Post Post #2019 (isolation #87) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:32 am

Wow.... yeah I don't know how I missed how bad Serrapaladin is. So much potential to be Malabuddy.

DeathNote · Post Post #2021 (isolation #88) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:36 am

In post 2020, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2018, DeathNote wrote:I also want Elyse to answer GC's questions. I just did a quick ISO and Elyse's activity has fallen off drastically.

@Elyse- Why are you entering active lurker stage? Your posts were much more thought out early game.
Are you trying to sheep me?

No?

But if you want credit for saying that first, then all yours buddy. Hope it helps you seem a little more townie.

DeathNote · Post Post #2023 (isolation #89) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:56 am

I'll wait for you to post something that makes sense.

If you are still trying to say I am mimicking your reads or buddying you then the answer is hell no. I wouldn't mind seeing you dead but there are lots of people in this game that fill that category.

If you remember, that is also the time when I started questioning your reads as you weren't giving any and then when you did, you wouldn't explain because "herp-derp you first".

DeathNote · Post Post #2025 (isolation #90) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:05 am

Yeah we are not doing this. Same argument, different time.

DeathNote · Post Post #2029 (isolation #91) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:19 am

In post 2026, Elyse wrote:*continues to ignore GC*

I would be fine with a serra, Nik, or RC lynch today so I really don't care what happens.

Man when I do that shit I get lynched before the page ends.

DeathNote · Post Post #2030 (isolation #92) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:27 am

@pisskop- why are you just quoting select posts and saying that I am bad? That is taking things out of context. Like post 700 I unvoted but if you would read the previous post you would see the building wagon on Zek plus my apathy from arguing with UT. There was a valid reason for me getting off his wagon.

Meanwhile it was almost post 1400 before that next quote where I vote him again and push his death. I am pretty sure that was even the next freaking day... yeah he deserved to die for getting counter claimed.

So what are you quoting to try and make me seem so bad?

DeathNote · Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:47 pm

In post 2033, tman2nd wrote:Could someone explain to me the Nikanor wagon? (Other than him mentioning day talk being a scum tell because it's not.)

In post 1967, DeathNote wrote:Look the day started again......

Starting to think I should replace out based off how little I care about the players in this game. No enthusiasm.

I think Nikanor is a good lynch today.

In post 394, Nikanor wrote:
In post 393, Zekrom25 wrote:
In post 387, Marquis wrote:This discussion is tiresome let's lynch zekrom now I demand it
i can't help myself any longer

OBJECTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please replace out.
thanks.

In post 396, Nikanor wrote:i'm not a fan of you.

In post 537, Nikanor wrote:
In post 454, Gooner wrote:I'm getting more and more sure that Zekrom's town the more votes hit him. That last vote from Ythan was poor.
i hate zekrom25 but the wagon is kinda bad tbh. there are way better lynches.
dethy is still town, not sure why people are voting for him?
votes on formerfishy are good votes.
Gooner is still scum. His townread on Zekrom should be impossible. it looks like he's calling zekrom town just for the hell of it.
Poro's looking townier for his posts.
pisskop is really obviously scum, his vote on zek is godawful, we should lynch him tomorrow or something.
These quotes all indicate Nikanor's strong dislike for Zek but no intention to vote him. In face, Nik calls Zek town... there was no problem with this back then but based off this next post.

In post 1104, Nikanor wrote:a) i doubt that zekrom25 is anything but a town vig. the only exception i can think of is if the scum have daytalk and coached him into making that claim when he did.
Yeah Nik is probably scum that was pissed off at Zek for his bad play then coached him into a claim using day talk. I consider this post a slip.

vote: nikanor

The above is what I posted that got a wagon going.

Nikanor posting about day talk wasn't entirely what was scummy (even though I still think it was a slip).

It was the bases of his interactions with Zek that caught my eye.

DeathNote · Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:55 am

Elyse- I think not answering questions puts you at more risk then answering them...

DeathNote · Post Post #2057 (isolation #95) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:50 pm

We should just drop that considering it started with Marq.

In one sentence, can someone explain why Serra is better the Nik?

DeathNote · Post Post #2059 (isolation #96) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:37 pm

Then my vote stays. Lets get to running up.

DeathNote · Post Post #2093 (isolation #97) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:30 am

Vote: Marquis

DeathNote · Post Post #2112 (isolation #98) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:16 pm

In post 2111, Ythan wrote:Wow I suddenly get the rc hate.

Eventually she needs to die... I just don't know when.

DeathNote · Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:52 pm

No.

We are lynching between Yates and Marq today and I am starting to lean Yates.

There is scum between the two of them.

DeathNote · Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:52 pm

FUCK...

but I don't want Marq to be town...

unvote

vote: Yates

DeathNote · Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:07 am

Sorry for ditching. Text coming up this week that has been stressing me plus starting a new game that I have been trying to organize.

I will post some thoughts later today after I pick my brother up from work.

DeathNote · Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 am

In post 2203, Ythan wrote:DeathNote, my dude.

Vote Serra.

Is serra really that good of a lynch? What makes him any better then say... RC or Tman?

Or Yates even...

Hell, most of the player list is just as bad as Serra if not worse. What in particular did he do to appear scummy? I assume it is a relational tell but I don't remember seeing it.

DeathNote · Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:53 pm

In post 2214, Ythan wrote:Yeah DN are you really in a place in this game right now where you see Serra at -1 and try to derail?

Not sure what you are trying to say here. Yeah, I feel like I am in a fine place to question the mentality of a pointless wagon.

Don't get me wrong, I think Serra is scummy but only because he is a fluff poster who doesn't provide content or gives reads without explanation. The problem is that there are lots of players who are like that. To me, it just seems like this wagon formed because scum pushed on a random dumb-bot and every other townie here just doesn't seem to care about questioning the validity of it.

Unvote

Vote: Serra

I want a policy lynch on RC if Serra flips scum.

DeathNote · Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:53 pm

Also, I would really like for NS to appear and start posting. Either that or replace that slot again because holy crap.... thats ridiculous.

DeathNote · Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:36 pm

@Mod- Can you send some prods out and update the OP please? Thanks!

DeathNote · Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:35 pm

In post 2222, Ythan wrote:DN/NS buddies.

Sure, lets go with that...

Town cred is still mine btw, I voted assuming hammer.

DeathNote · Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:55 am

In post 2258, Ythan wrote:
In post 2257, pirate mollie wrote:so why is notty so special? do you have a town read on him?
Is this seriously your response to you derailing a Serra lynch at L-1? That's cheeky.

Not to mention this works both ways...

In fact, where have I seen this before?

In post 2243, Untrod Tripod wrote:okay great HE'LL STILL BE SCUM TOMORROW

are you like hardcore townreading serra?

In post 2245, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 2243, Untrod Tripod wrote:okay great HE'LL STILL BE SCUM TOMORROW

are you like hardcore townreading serra?
of course not.

but notty is scumzorz

In post 2251, pirate mollie wrote:hey guyz I think serra looks scummy but I really really think notty is scum.

lets lynch him.

@Mollie- if this doesn't prove to you that your vote is silly when we have a perfectly good lynch candidate up, then you are just being deliberately hard headed.

I agree that NS lurkerscum is a good lynch. Hell, I even pointed out that lurkerscum was in the game still but that wasn't so we could derail a wagon from L-1 just to vote someone who isn't any better of a lynch then Serra. Please focus and be town.

DeathNote · Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:25 am

In post 2326, Green Crayons wrote:VOTE: Ythan

Of all the votes... why?

DeathNote · Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:37 am

Not even going to bother with that shit storm.

Vote: NS

I can compromise on RC/Tman/Marq as well.

DeathNote · Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:56 am

Thanks? Not sure how to take that haha

DeathNote · Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:00 pm

In post 2352, Elyse wrote:Yeah I'm going to trust mollie on this one.

VOTE: notscience

Happy UT died. I was getting nervous about him.

There is honestly very few people who I am not nervous about.

NS claim.

Refrain from hammering until everyone has posted please. There are too many people I have forgotten were even in this game.

DeathNote · Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:05 pm

In post 2354, DeathNote wrote:
In post 2352, Elyse wrote:Yeah I'm going to trust mollie on this one.

VOTE: notscience

Happy UT died. I was getting nervous about him.
There is honestly very few people who I am not nervous about.

NS claim.

Refrain from hammering until everyone has posted please. There are too many people I have forgotten were even in this game.

DeathNote · Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:50 am

Ythan, just don't brush things off as stupid and you won't get mindless sheep on your wagon tomorrow.

I would much rather wagon a mindless sheep then have them wagon an "abrasive player".

DeathNote · Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:55 am

Oh well then, new players!

Maybe things will pick up again.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:10 am

If marquis is scum, then I would presume the wagon is entirely town, while if marquis is town, DeathNote has a good chance of being scum, since the marquis wagon would be a great safety spot for scum-votes.

Can we lynch him to find out?

DeathNote · Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:12 pm

In post 2457, Ythan wrote:DeathNote the point of a claim is to avoid lynching town utility. What was the point to you?

I was being facetious.

DeathNote · Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:57 am

In post 2460, Kagami wrote:
In post 2458, DeathNote wrote:
In post 2457, Ythan wrote:DeathNote the point of a claim is to avoid lynching town utility. What was the point to you?
I was being facetious.
in 2454? How are you reading Marquis?

I would lynch her and definitely don't want to be in endgame with her (or RC slot)

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:58 am

Nacho not town? ALSO HI NACHO!!!!

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:00 am

We are lynching Kagami today. I don't mind letting the discussions go on a bit but a claim was reached and there is no reason to not lynch her. I do appreciate the feedback she is giving though and hopefully the info she is providing will help us catch some scum. I like the VC analysis and normally I don't care at all about them.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:28 am

You claimed VT, we ARE going to lynch you now. Thats the bottom line. Especially when we know we have at least one other town PR left, probably two.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:31 am

In post 2447, Kagami wrote:
Spoiler: Day 1 wagons
Vote Count 1.7 - zek+fish wagon

Zekrom25
(7) - Marquis,
Porochaz
, pirate mollie, DeathNote, pisskop,
kagami
,
Formerfish

Formerfish
(6) -
Nikanor
, Yates,
Cabd
,
Untrod Tripod
, Elyse, Ythan
Untrod Tripod (3) - tman2nd, Green Crayons,
Zekrom25

pirate mollie (1) -
sthar8

Gooner (1) -
PeregrineV

PeregrineV (1)- RadiantCowbells

Not Voting (2) -
OhGodMyLife
,
Malakittens

Vote count just after zekrom claimed vig. At the time of the claim, UT was on DN and Elyse was on zek. Suggests tman and GC are not scum together, since 3 scum on UT here seems pretty unlikely.

I would expect one or even two scum to be on formerfish, and at most one on zek here. There's the vague possibility that many scum are on zek and the whole claiming thing was organized as a bus given daychat, but I have a hard time seeing zek as anything but a hardcore derp in this game.

Elyse was on zek just prior to this VC, but she jumped immediately on hearing the claim. Not sure that's damning, since I'd have done the same (lynching a claimed 1S vig on day 1 is stupid).

Vote Count 1.10 - burgeoning Sthar wagon

sthar8
(5) - Elyse, Green Crayons, pisskop, Ythan,
Nikanor

Marquis (4) - DeathNote,
PeregrineV
,
Porochaz
,
Untrod Tripod

Zekrom25
(2) -
Formerfish
, Marquis

Formerfish
(1) - Yates

Untrod Tripod
(1) -
Zekrom25

Elyse (1) -
Cabd

RadiantCowbells (1) - RadiantCowbells

Malakittens
(1) - pirate mollie
pirate mollie (1) -
Malakittens

Not Voting (4) -
OhGodMyLife
,
sthar8
,
kagami
, tman2nd

State of the game 2 days prior to deadline, where we see the sthar wagon beginning, which will eventually lead to a lynch. After this point, it's pretty unlikely that an alternative wagon will spring up with the deadline looming, so if marquis is town, scum should be feeling pretty comfortable here. If marquis is scum, then I would presume the wagon is entirely town, while if marquis is town, DeathNote has a good chance of being scum, since the marquis wagon would be a great safety spot for scum-votes. Either way, prob at least one scumvote on sthar by now.

Vote Count 1.13 - lynch wagons

sthar8
(11) - Elyse, Green Crayons, pisskop, Ythan,
Nikanor
,
kagami
, Yates, pirate mollie, Marquis,
Malakittens
,
Formerfish
(LYNCH)
Marquis (6) - DeathNote,
PeregrineV
,
Porochaz
, tman2nd, RadiantCowbells,
Untrod Tripod

Untrod Tripod (1) -
Zekrom25

Elyse (1) -
Cabd

Not Voting (2) -
OhGodMyLife
,
sthar8

Deadline lynch, but interesting in that all of the non-zekrom scum are on a wagon. Do we believe that all of them (almost certainly 4) are on sthar? Prob not. There is one or very likely two scum among DN, tman, and RC.

I think this is legit.

That deadline lynch on Sthar which Kag points out that not all scum are likely on his wagon. I agree and didn't notice that because I don't do VC stuff and have the time, VC stuff is bull shit but when it comes down to POE like this, it just makes sense.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:32 am

I mean... everyone understands the concept of lynching the VT right? You do that because if Kag lives, mafia knows she isn't a threat (PR wise).

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:14 am

Right but you are not a PR. Leaving you alive and lynching someone else just narrows the PR pool and threatens the last Mason plus any other PRs we may have.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:29 am

Ok?

But that doesn't mean we should increase the odds of him getting killed. You were deemed a scum slot. The only reason you claim is so that we make sure we are not lynching a PR and once VT comes out, we lynch that. Plain and simple.

Sure, I think you had some very pro-town posts but that doesn't mean you slot is guaranteed not being scum unlike our Mason.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:49 am

Err... wait did I miss something? What claimed anti-town-whatever?

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:01 am

Sorry... here. Catch up day.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:07 am

In post 2580, Nachomamma8 wrote:Another example of horribly shallow reasoning: "Mollie died last night suspecting Nacho, Nacho must be scum!".
I don't see what the incompetent scumteam point adds to Elyse's point here, either.

So you are saying Mollie was killed to frame you? What about this post then?

Probably not: currently, it looks like she tossed two obvious town and the mason into the mix.

It looks as if Kag really was yelling at scum team to kill one of those three but you disagree saying the above. So why kill Mollie?

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:08 am

@Marquis- You finally voted me. What gives?

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:09 am

Vote: Bulbazak

This slot needs to die.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:48 pm

Marq... seriously why don't you ever explain your reads?

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:37 pm

In post 2595, Marquis wrote:i haven't been reading as closely as i thought...

UNVOTE:

ugh. the state of the game suggests 2 scum left, right? i had this weird idea earlier that one of them is a traitor, but i can't exactly remember why; maybe it had to do with not enough relational tells or something like that.

regardless after the zekrom push and late-lynch, i've mostly just been sheeping mollie-super-town-read on things and now that she's dead, i'm finding it hard to pick a new accurate-sounding town player to anchor myself and my reads to. i'll probably do limited isos later but for now, consider these my tentative reads in no particular order:

town

marquis

null/scum

DeathNote
Nachomamma8
Yates
pirate mollie
Elyse
Ythan
Bulbazak
tman2nd
Green Canyons

(...so you can see why i'm all over the place today)

God you are just like... the biggest scum piece of crap I have seen this game.... It really really really bothers me and the only reason I have tunnel voted you into the ground is because there are SOOOOooooo many people this game that are bad and worthy of a lynch.

Does no one else read this post and see nothing of relevant? Like, what in this post comes from a town perspective?

There is set-up speculation, blatant sheeping (and all mollie?), a pointless list (Yeah she is being facetious, I get it), and then to top it all off...

(...so you can see why i'm all over the place today)

No I can't see why you are all over the place. And the fact that you are shrugging off your lack of reasoning with this crap answer is what makes me mad.

Unvote
Vote: Marq

The worst part is probably just the fact that Marq plays this way. I don't know if this is scum play or just her being deliberately anti-town. It is the same thing with RC... always plays the same way and always gets lynched for it. I really do think RC/bulz might have been town... probably is town but I also don't want to see that slot in lylo because... not lynching someone on meta is ridiculous.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:40 pm

Yates is a great vote too. I saw his fluff posting back when he was pressuring a mason claim out of Marq. I was willing to lynch him then, I am willing to lynch him now.

I guess it would be easier to say who I don't want to kill at this point but that list is probably just GC.....

@Ythan- Are you scum? Seriously, just if you are town, clear you name now. I don't want this to go out of proportion. I considered you town just as I considered UT town and honestly... at this point UT would probably have pressure on him too.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:41 pm

In post 2598, Marquis wrote:lol

gnight everyone

I actually should do the same... I am reading my posts and seeing I am starting to drift. I'll try to compose myself tomorrow and do a bit of ISOing.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:03 am

In post 2602, Ythan wrote:
In post 2599, DeathNote wrote:@Ythan- Are you scum? Seriously, just if you are town, clear you name now. I don't want this to go out of proportion. I considered you town just as I considered UT town and honestly... at this point UT would probably have pressure on him too.
So are you just pretending to ask a meaningful question or what. Like am I going to claim scum here?

I dont see why the question is so hard to answer.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:33 pm

Please dont hammer Nacho yet... I have been deliberately avoiding reading that slot because I don't want to get caught up in the hype of another mislynch with no bases. Let me keep some of these conversations going a wee bit longer... which is hard to do when you work all day. I am going to shower, clear my head, and then come back and read what I have missed since my last post.

Nacho, get your ass back here and post. Unless you really are scum, then stay hidden and we will probably hammer you soon.

EDIT:
@Ythan- What question? The meaningful question nonsense? Ythan, I would feel more threatened by you if you weren't so condescending. Other peoples methods of scum hunting are not stupid just because you say it is. I don't want to get in another bitch fest with you like I did UT early in the game but please just be reasonable for a few posts and not shrug off other peoples post as idiocracy. I asked if you were scum. I expected a valid response. I don't ever expect people to flat out say, "Yes I am scum." But how people respond to the question, "Are you scum?" can often be very revealing.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:28 pm

Sure but does it matter? It is all opinionated anyways.
If a player is snarky about the comment, usually replying in wit or pushing the question back, then I consider that a town tell.
If a player ignores the question, I consider that a scum tell.
If a player gets flustered by the question, then I consider that a scum tell.
If a player refuses the question, I consider that a null tell which means I will follow up with different questions to force out some sort of response.

These are just a few examples but the reasoning of it all is because the nature of the question insinuates doubt in the person's alignment. If I ask a player if they are scum, then that is a good indication that I am suspecting them of being scum. At least, that is how most people view the question on the receiving end. The thought process is, "Why would he ask me that?" "I am obviously not going to say yes?" "Is he trying to get me to slip?"

I want insight on the player, that is one of the ways I get it.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:36 pm

Blatant sheeping makes you look bad. You don't agree, I can see that. But to me, I see that as scum piggy backing/buddying a town player.

Also, I am tired of players trying to take credit for being on the scum wagons. All this bullshit of people claiming they wouldn't push three of there buddies is crap.

zekrom25 (10) -
Ythan, DeathNote,
zekrom25, Malakittens,
Green Crayons,
Yates, Elyse,
Marquis, tman2nd, Cabd
Malakittens (9) - Untrod Tripod, tman2nd,
Ythan, DeathNote, Elyse,

Yates
, pisskop, Porochaz,
Green Crayons

Kagami (6) -
DeathNote
,
Elyse
, Marquis,
Ythan,
pirate mollie, Nachomamma8

Look at all these people who are on multiple scum wagons. Take a cookie. Don't remind me again because I don't care.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:38 pm

In post 2609, Yates wrote:Bulba is trying to paint my inquiry as a mason fish while it was in fact calling out what I had perceived as a fake claim. And not acting on that information is what would have been detrimental to Town, imo. What a joke.

Looked like you were prepping a counter claim to me.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:49 pm

He is trying to state that he knew Marq wasn't a mason but that whole interaction that day phase just came off as him preparing to counter claim Mason if Marq was going to stick to her trololol fake claim.

It was honestly why I wanted to lynch Yates the next day cause I figured he would have died.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:56 pm

Ok first off... Me asking a simple question is NOT the basis of my entire read on one person. Like wtf?
Secondly, what I got out of that was the question isn't worth asking. Why? Ythan has all the possiblity in the world of being scum. He is being pressured as being scum but more then just GC now. If anything, I need to sort my read on him. Am I solely using that response to determine his alignment? No but that doesn't mean it won't help.

And I didn't bold your name cause you weren't on the Mala wagon so I didn't see your name multiple times.

You want credit for pushing Zeek really early, fine. I don't care. But you are the one who stated you sheeped Mollie and I know you did. You were mindless most of the game and as soon as this argument is over, I wouldn't be surprised to see you turn back into being mindless........

Bleh....

I didn't bold pisskop/Nacho cause two separate players. Lynch Nacho, I don't care. I will even hammer after Ythan comes back and blows off my reasoning in some way.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:57 pm

In post 2637, Marquis wrote:He was going to say I wasn't Mason because Poro had stated multiple times that he was okay with my lynch, and there were quotes to prove it.

You don't need a counterclaim to disprove the second half of a Mason claim ffs vote nacho

I mean, I know that was his intention now but at the time, I read his interaction as intention to counter claim.

DeathNote · Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:31 pm

I haven't complained about your posting style since day 2 or 3. If anything, you dropped in the amount of posts since then. We lynched Zek day 2 and even though he turned out to be scum, I wouldn't have done anything different. Letting him live day 1 was the right move.

Going to bed.

DeathNote · Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:32 am

Pretty much bullshit.

DeathNote · Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:04 pm

Obligatory watching of video before posting.

DeathNote · Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:09 pm

Tman, are you basing your vote because of what others have said? Can you show me what others have said? I don't remember there being discrepancies.

8 alive, when do we need to be worried about mylo/lylo? Not today sure, but is that tomorrow? Unless no deaths happen again.

Leaning voting Ythan or Yates today honestly. I think I am getting a better grasp on who is town now that we have thinned out so thats a good thing. I guess there is no chance scum could night kill Marquis is there? -_- I am tired of trying to read her.

DeathNote · Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:11 pm

Like... its the worse when you are so sure someone is scum but you can't formulate a good enough case to lynch. I see so much BS posting but I feel like I am the only one. Ok stopping myself now...

I want to see what Ythan and Yates are going to do.

Elyse- Why Bulz?

DeathNote · Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:22 pm

In post 2671, tman2nd wrote:It is based on what others have said. I'm not going to go look for those posts right now because Bulbazeck is preparing a rebuttle to them anyway. Actually, I think I should have probably looked a little more into the arguments. I think I was a bit to hasty with my vote.

UNVOTE:

So you are backpedaling out of that vote because you realize you don't remember what others have said or you don't think those comments are as condemning as you had hoped? You had Elyse voting with you so there was obviously something to work with. Why call it a hasty vote?

DeathNote · Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:34 pm

I mean... you say that but.... is she really?

DeathNote · Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:39 pm

Well... yeah. I have seen several players this game actively buss both of those scum. I can't just clear them all because of it.

Don't get me wrong, I am not lynching Marq today. I won't even suggest it but if I am put in some sort of 3 way lylo with her and anyone else, I am going to be hard pressed to not lynch her.

DeathNote · Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:50 pm

In post 2677, Marquis wrote:Have you considered that your scumread on and intent to mislynch me might be why you're still alive?

Not sure who I'm voting today. Might be less active this weekend.

Sure but I doubt it. Mostly just because I don't think scum plan that far ahead as to keeping a certain person alive for lylo. Especially a scum team who is shooting people like Peregrine and UT....

Pre-Edit:
Yeah that one post of pressure really shook Bulbz to the core

So if Bulbz isn't scum, who is? Or are you still thinking he might be a good vote you just need to figure out why?

DeathNote · Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:46 am

Wow that big 'ol post just because I said I was leaning voting you.

Interesting....

And yeah, I already stated that I wasn't going to vote Marq but that doesn't mean she is confirmed clear town which is what you seem to be implying.

DeathNote · Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:10 am

In post 2687, Marquis wrote:
In post 2683, Yates wrote:This is kind of important - does ANYONE think scum intentionally no killed last night?

I mean... maybe? We had a roleblocker/Joat/Doctor flip. I am not sure how many other protective roles there would be to prevent a kill. Maybe a bulletproof or something? Why is it so important?

DeathNote · Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:43 am

So which is it then? If tomorrow is mylo/lylo, then that leaves us with two lynches left to find some scum. You seem to think that I set myself up to only lynch Yates/Ythan/Marq, but thats too many people. By the way, it is interesting because you are making a fuss just from me stating I am leaning lynching Yates.

Thats swell that you know who the Mason is, didn't ask.

DeathNote · Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:07 am

Your questions are generic. Do you honestly want me to respond to how many players are left or how many scum are in games this size? They are either questions you can answer yourself by looking at the op (which needs to be updated) or they are setup speculation. I would assume 2 scum left but to hell if I know. Maybe there is a survivor or something? Is that balanced for normals? I don't know, I don't play them.

@Marq- what do you think of Tmans next couple of posts following his vote? He unvotes, does a bit of awkward backpedaling, and essentially starts blowing smoke for his reasoning.

DeathNote · Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:23 pm

Vote: Tman

DeathNote · Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:14 pm

RC town

Only game I could think of off the top of my head in which I played with RC town. Pretty much the same here.... does it mean RC is town? Ehh... maybe.... I don't know what RC scum looks like. I just know RC plays very much a VI role.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:35 pm

In post 2662, tman2nd wrote:Oh! I wonder if that was a nk or something else.

So, I currently am town reading Elyse, Marquis, and Green Crayons pretty heavily. That leaves, Ythan, Deathnote, Bulzabeck, and Yates. Out of those, Bulbazeck seems like the best option. As, others have pointed out, there have been some inconsistencies with the way he has read people, so that's who I want to lynch today.

VOTE: Bulbazeck

In post 2671, tman2nd wrote:It is based on what others have said. I'm not going to go look for those posts right now because Bulbazeck is preparing a rebuttle to them anyway. Actually, I think I should have probably looked a little more into the arguments. I think I was a bit to hasty with my vote.

UNVOTE:

In post 2678, tman2nd wrote:
In post 2672, DeathNote wrote:
In post 2671, tman2nd wrote:It is based on what others have said. I'm not going to go look for those posts right now because Bulbazeck is preparing a rebuttle to them anyway. Actually, I think I should have probably looked a little more into the arguments. I think I was a bit to hasty with my vote.

UNVOTE:
So you are backpedaling out of that vote because you realize you don't remember what others have said or you don't think those comments are as condemning as you had hoped? You had Elyse voting with you so there was obviously something to work with. Why call it a hasty vote?
Maybe it wasn't a bad vote because it did put some pressure on Bulbazeck, but I'm realizing I need to refresh my memory and I'm unvoting because I'm not as confident in that vote anymore. I kind of had this idea build up in my mind that Bulba is scum over the last night, and I probably should have actually taken time to look at the evidence.

These are not.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:41 pm

In post 2711, Elyse wrote:yeah they are

No they aren't

DeathNote · Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:03 am

Ok I will roll with the Nurse claim which makes figuring out todays lynch easier.

RC/bulba slot living this long is a big disadvantage to town as i figured it would be. While I realize how much RC-scum makes sense especially when considering the night kills and general "off" play of Zeek... I just expect a rather drab player to be on the scum team. Tman/RC makes sense to me as the last scum. Ythan, as much as I want to call him scum, likely isn't.

His play is annoying, arrogant, and not easy to work with but UT was in the same boat. I think lynching Ythan would be the wrong move at this point.

However, when the game ends and Marq turns out to be the other scum with Tman... then poo in everyone's eye because you all suck.

More Tman votes please.

DeathNote · Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:03 am

Yates, why did you stay on Elyse so much?

DeathNote · Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:42 pm

In post 2741, Yates wrote:
In post 2740, DeathNote wrote:Yates, why did you stay on Elyse so much?
Is this something you are expecting me to answer? [Not being cheeky]

I thought so but you make it seem like me asking that was stupid so maybe not... If someone else confirms that it is a stupid question, then I won't bother but for now, I kind of wanted to know your rational. You and Elyse should be top picks for kills now so I don't see how you can put Elyse in any more danger if thats the reasoning.

Top town reads... damn thats hard.

I would say GC and Elyse are my biggest town reads right now.

Yates is up there just because of the claim but hopefully my read on him won't matter after today.

Ythan/Marq are likely town too despite the iffy felling I get about them.

That leaves Tman/Bulb as scum for me so Elyse... you may need to start considering Tman as potential scum. Who would you replace him with?

DeathNote · Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:44 pm

I want to hear Bulbs input on Yates and Tman.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:37 am

I don't like the nurse claim and I see what Bulb is trying to say but the fact remains that Yates claimed a power role that could keep our Mason alive. There is no reason to lynch Yates today. I don't care how crappy the claim seems... we just can't lynch him.

With that said, Yates has also made it pretty telling that he knew Elyse was the Mason partner and I wanted him to confirm that without me spoon feeding it too him. Now that he has, I believe the claim a little more and feel more confident keeping him listed as Town.

In post 2774, Elyse wrote:Bulba is obvscum.

If Yates ends up being scum then I take full blame for this loss.

Our confirmed town role just vouched for Yates.

Unvote

Vote: Bulb

DeathNote · Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:39 am

And that was hammer.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:45 pm

Meh, then I wasn't the hammer.

DeathNote · Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:19 am

Errrrr....

Shit.

I was really wrong about T-man then. How they hell did mafia figure killing Tman was better then killing Yates? Did he slip up as mason or something?

3 masons.... I honestly don't know what to think about that. Rushing into an Elyse lynch seems bad when this is potentially mylo.

DeathNote · Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:08 am

Paranoia is killing me here.

Is it possible for the last two scum to be Elyse/Yates? Is that too absurd?

DeathNote · Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:08 am

Like... it would be a pretty awesome gambit for Scum to no kill then Yates claims to protect his partner.

DeathNote · Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:31 pm

Mass claiming is probably a good idea for today. Either that or no lynch and then mass claim tomorrow...

I think if there was another investigation role alive, he would have contributed something by now.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:38 am

It really depends on the power of that last scum. All had powers so far and if he was strong enough, maybe 1 left makes sense?

For right now, it is safer to assume lylo.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:52 am

In post 2814, Samael Mavet wrote:Yeah I was hoping scum would think I was the mason and kill me but all I got was two town players thinking I am scum.

Wtf are you talking about GC with my tone? Can you explain how my "tone" has changed from yesterday to today?

No lynching seems ideal just because 6 players and no more then 2 scum. That means this is mylo for sure.

Vote: no lynch

Mine! I apologize.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:59 am

Ehh... if Mafia have an added kill ability, I would be willing to wager only 1 scum left then. 4 scum with decent powers against a large town with meh powers. (Although 3 masons is pretty good)

DeathNote · Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:30 am

Why would Elyse die? Elyse dying points to you as a nurse not doing your job. Or are you saying there is a second strongman?

@GC- there is nothing for me to respond or defend against when you just get a "weird feeling". Sorry that you don't like those two posts I guess? The moderator in me is trying to dissect the working of the game especially since there are now claims out. Figuring out if scum fake claimed could means winning this game so my natural thought process brought me to thinking of a Yates/Elyse combo... especially since Tman never claimed after Elyse claimed giving it that air of wifom that maybe he would have countered.

DeathNote · Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:19 am

Yeah but your feelings insinuate that you would consider lynching me which I can't allow. I wanted to try and squash those thoughts early.

DeathNote · Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:47 am

Sorry to hear that Yates.

Best of luck during the tough times.

DeathNote · Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:08 pm

Welcome antihero!

There is too much wifom involved in lynching today. I agree, there could possibly be one scum left but I don't want to bank the game on that "possibility." The fact that you suggest it when Yates did too is very interesting to me.

In post 2839, Elyse wrote:I want to no lynch. I still don't trust your slot 100% and I can't figure out why tman was killed. If we are both alive tomorrow, then one of the other people dies and the scumpool is reduced. If you die, I am conftown and my paranoia is put to rest.

I don't like that you said this... It sets up tomorrow too much. Regardless, we need to no lynch and the day has dragged so please go ahead and vote if you haven't. Get this over with.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:24 am

If 2 scum left and we lynch wrong, gg. The wifom of if we are actually in mylo or not.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:51 am

It almost seems like you want him to slip up but I will watch and be amused.

DeathNote · Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:31 am

Yeah he said Nurse- now Doctor yet he also said he got a VT role. So Nurse was never sent to him as a role.

@Antihero- So which is it? Lay out what your role is, no cutting corners. Give us all your actions and then tell us who your scum buddy is assuming you even have one left.

DeathNote · Tue May 06, 2014 4:35 am

I learned that Marq is actually town.

DeathNote · Tue May 06, 2014 9:50 am

Well, I am bad at mafia so it wasn't really obvious to me.

I think it is fair to say that Elyse is still our town player. I have been trying to think of situations in which she could be scum with Yates/Antihero but it honestly just leaves too much up to chance. The situation kind of fit too perfectly for them to be fake claiming as a scum team.

That doesn't mean that Antihero couldn't still possibly be scum but that means he no killed just to set up his "nurse" claim. Meh...

I guess out of the players left... I could see a Ythan/Antihero team. I just don't feel confident in pushing Antihero as scum... it makes me nervous to lynch him.

DeathNote · Wed May 07, 2014 5:29 am

I would love for every player to post before we start voting from sheer boredom.

DeathNote · Wed May 07, 2014 6:31 pm

In post 2874, Ythan wrote:Idk. GC.

Meaning GC is scum?

DeathNote · Thu May 08, 2014 4:28 am

GC, shut up.

I don't play the game the same way you do. Just because it is "common knowledge" doesn't mean I don't have a reasoning for asking my question.

When Ythan just pops in, says he is doesn't care about the game, then says "Idk. GC." without adding anything else... that kind of isn't good enough for me.

So I ask him a blatant question that should be leading to a response about Why you are scum. I don't want Ythan to just set himself with a fuck it vote on you. That is stupid and anti-town.

Now if he is scum, then fine... I'll just lynch him. But that comment comes across as uninterested town to me and not lurking scum.

DeathNote · Thu May 08, 2014 4:32 am

I already said what my target lynch for the day was.

Ythan>Anti>GC

However, that could easily be changed if Ythan participated. I really want to think he is town but with only 5 people left, it is becoming increasingly obvious to me that he is likely scum.

DeathNote · Thu May 08, 2014 8:23 am

Responses lead to other responses. I didn't ask the question the way you would have and so you get upset about it.

DeathNote · Sat May 10, 2014 5:52 am

If we lose because of this then whatever. I just want this game to be over with because I don't see anyone really trying anymore.

Vote: Ythan

Good Game guys, my vote stays here.

DeathNote · Sat May 10, 2014 5:54 am

Also, Ythan's buddy, please kill me tonight. -_-

DeathNote · Sat May 10, 2014 10:08 am

Yeah... I think we won based off apathy.

DeathNote · Sat May 10, 2014 10:09 am

In post 2893, Marquis wrote:I probably should have explained that my townread on DeathNote only happened because I thought he was a Mason at first

I tried really hard to set myself up for a mason cc too. But after the nurse thing, I decided against it.

DeathNote · Sat May 10, 2014 10:14 am

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/SFjU3uUkEJNk4

DeathNote · Sat May 10, 2014 6:20 pm

Yates, good game buddy but lord almighty... how did you get away with not getting lynched lol.

DeathNote · Sat May 10, 2014 8:01 pm

In post 2908, Untrod Tripod wrote:oh deathnote

I will make you pay

Lol... be honest. Did my argument with you early game make me look scummy? If so, why didn't you ever push me as scum?

Also, it isn't hard to make me pay. I am dreadfully bad at this game >.<

DeathNote · Sun May 11, 2014 4:14 am

Haha, nah. I don't get mad. I guess I can get flustered when I am drunk but usually on F2F.

Thanks for being so understanding