Graveyard Shift Mafia - ROLL CREDITS

[Aronis]

I'm not gonna read anything posted a1 or whatever

Wonderful.

VOTE: Logical Duality

Titus, Who is your other head?

[Aronis]

Aronis, why are you assuming that one of my heads is Titus? We haven't posted, so such a conclusion is baseless and would totally defeatthe point of an anonymous hydra.

I admit I am behind but we SHOULD be lynching someone the dayshift has voted. This generates relationship tells across the shiftsand prevents the mafia from scrambling the shifts to screw with us.

I have not read the day yet, but I really like Fourteen's post, assuming everything therein is true. Self-vouching on Day 1 is terrible unless under massive pressure.

Then there's ika's alleged promise to post content. Why is ika's different from Jordan?

VOTE: BirdandBeast

Hardly. Your email is: titus04

[Aronis]

All else being equal I'd like to lynch someone from Night shift because we have an IC so the lynch pool is smaller, and presumable will have the same amount of scum.

this feels like town thought process to me, though i don't think there's any reason to assume we have the same number of scum in each shift. all we know is that there's at least one in each, and i get the feeling scum may have had some influence over who ended up in which shift. i mean, maybe it's a total coincidence, but if you were deliberately aiming to put all the people most likely to clog up the thread with bullshit into one shift, i think you'd end up with something very much like the day shift we have.

also liking Dry-fit's MrZephyr vote, shows independent thinking, and that guy is totally skeevy. if i was voting anyone from the day shift, it'd be him. but i don't want to vote anyone from the day shift right now. scum in the night shift will have a very easy ride if we let it be purely reactive to what's going on in the day shift. not going to ignore it completely, but it shouldn't be the focus.

of course, if everyone in the night shift is going to post at my kind of rate, it's gonna be hard to avoid it.

VOTE: Aronis

rolls his eyes at Reck for announcing his intention to ignore the first sixteen pages of the game, then proceeds to act like the first sixteen pages haven't happened and do a random vote on the anonymous hydra, AKA Public Enemy #1. you can't have it both ways.

I have read the game. However at this point in the game, My reads are not that strong and I see no reason to reveal them yet. I will continue to observe and potentially reveal them at a later shift for now.

[Aronis]

i mean, maybe it's a total coincidence, but if you were deliberately aiming to put all the people most likely to clog up the thread with bullshit into one shift, i think you'd end up with something very much like the day shift we have.

The rules say the first shift is random. Also why are you voting Aronis?

well now i feel dumb.

i'm voting Aronis because his rolleyes at Reck was shitty, and his vote on Logical Duality is easy target as hell after the way everyone bitched about anonymous hydras in the signup thread. and also now because he is apparently not even going to try to engage with anyone in either shift.

I am voting the 'anonymous hydra' on policy, nothing more at this point. Engaging people in other shifts is difficult? To say the least and I'd prefer to wait until a more crucial stage to do so. Perhaps the next shift. Which leaves the people in this shift who have been rather inactive and we are running out of time, but I will attempt it in the least.

[Aronis]

VOTE: Logical Duality

sheeping BRO because he's town until I say otherwise

Really? You have posted nothing useful and what happens when scum keeps the damn shifts the same? Then what are you going to do?

VOTE: xRECKONERx

[Aronis]

VOTE: Logical Duality

sheeping BRO because he's town until I say otherwise

Really? You have posted nothing useful and what happens when scum keeps the damn shifts the same? Then what are you going to do?

VOTE: xRECKONERx

Nice stab at the low hanging fruit, chief.

I'm a confirmable town role so I don't really give a fuck if you want to waste your time coming after me.

Logical Duality is pretty bad for calling me "probable scum" with no reasoning whatsoever... and I'm fairly confident whatever reason they toss my way now will be just as bad so yeah.

The only confirmed town is BRO, idiot. If you're really confirmed town prove it, until then my vote stays on you and I will have you listed as confirmed scum.

[Aronis]

Thanks for confirming your alignment along with BnB. We know you are scum Zoraster. You can persist in this foolishness and reveal how we know you are scum, or you can bus BnB.

Go ahead and tell us why Zoraster is confscum. It raises my eyebrows that you expect everyone to sheep you onto Zoraster without you giving your reasons.

@Aronis:

Did you think Reck was actually scum or just anti-town in 461? Because your post doesn't really make it look like you actually suspect him.

Anti town. But I'm fine with lynching him on policy if he keeps this up.

[Aronis]

Dry-fit, we want reactions to generate scenarios 1, 2, and 3 described above. We don't expect you to sheep us if you can't see the obvscum. He is confscum to us, but should be obvscum to you with such a hyperactive defense of BnB. It attacks a player that most didn't like due to pregame. It also assumed that we were uncapable of being reasoned with.

If you townread us, vote zoraster. You have our personal guarantee he will flip scum. There's one thing I know well, and that is a desperate scum opening Dryfit.I have done it far too much.

If you null us, vote your scumread.

If you scumread us, vote us.

I have a plan.

Bro: It's faked. Look at how many times, confBro has been discussed.

~Titus

A plan?

And yeah, Reck doesn't look genuine with that IMO.

I really don't understand why zoraster is obvious scum at this point. An explanation would be nice, but unfortunately we are running out of time.

[Aronis]

It's hard to 'love' a specific person, if you have no idea who they are, but whatev.

VOTE: Zoraster

Kinda confused, I think you are a cop, but the gambit part makes no sense, so yeah.

[Aronis]

I bet.

Once you flip, who is scum?

[Aronis]

Can we just lynch this lying scum already?

[Aronis]

Hey! I've been on this site 8 years!

I'm late. But congrats!!!

[Aronis]

This is really confusing. And the Day/Night shifts make it worse. So Serene is claiming guilty on Bird and Beast?

[Aronis]

I'm guessing the movement of Venmar was balancing things? Part of me wonders if he's scum after zoraster's death, plus this is a perfect place for people to come and lay low.

[Aronis]

Holy shit Zeph why can't you read :/

Also, scum just pulled a nasty trick. We're lynching in B2 and B6.

Guys on my shift, I need you to be more active.

I'll try.

What are your thoughts on the Serene/BirdandBeast mess?

[Aronis]

VOTE: Venmar

Sheeping the Innocent Child for now. I'll try to do something substantial later.

[Aronis]

I'm here, but getting ready to go to bed. As always, I'll try to post more, it's just a pain with the shifts.

[Aronis]

What the hell just happened to Venmar? Is he dead?

[Aronis]

So you think that people weren't assigned roles randomly?

[Aronis]

So the episode is only 6 shifts this time???

[Aronis]

Vote: Dry Fit

Vote: BnB

Content removed.
-Mods

Idea: Venmar, use morse code.

VOTE: Aronis: -
VOTE: Venmar: .

Http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code

If you need it^

UNVOTE:

[Aronis]

VOTE: Serene2

So they pretty much claimed a fake guilty?

[Aronis]

Is it just me or is it weird that the lovers haven't been killed yet?

[Aronis]

OK?

[Aronis]

Pretty much. Welcome to the Day Shift.

[Aronis]

VOTE: dryfit

I couldn't care less right now.

[Aronis]

If it's fake they should die quicker then serene.

VOTE: I Jesters

[Aronis]

VOTE: The Goat

I'm not sold on ika scum, sorry.

[Aronis]

Maybe they are doing a scum gambit or something. We should lynch them both.

[Aronis]

Maybe they are doing a scum gambit or something. We should lynch them both.

This probably comes from town but is super lazy.

Your role is a perfect scum fake claim.

[Aronis]

I don't think Reck's claim makes him look particularly town or Hiplop look particularly scum to be honest.

Why not?

[Aronis]

Actually intrigued by that statement. Why is is a perfect scum fake claim Aronis?

Scum have control over the shifts? So he could just manipulate them to his will.

[Aronis]

Make up your mind, Reck.

VOTE: hiplop

[Aronis]

I'm having second thoughts about hiplop. Idk.

[Aronis]

Our neighbor topic has been very dead though. It's rather sad. That's why I'm not convinced of hiplop's anything-ness, because he's barely contributing. I've tried several times to get his opinion/post about stuff... here's a summary of our topic:

- Saying hello
- Name claiming to each other
- I softclaimed my ability
- I said I forgot BRO was conftown by mods
- hiplop goes 'lol i did too'
- hiplop asks 'what is up with zoraster nonsense'
- I say how much I dislike Serene
- I say I really want BnB to be town
- NO response for DAYS
- I pop back in to say hello and warn him that my claim isn't what I thought it was upon talking to UT about it and ask him to fullclaim with me
- He says that he thinks I'm town and that he always thinks I'm town and that he doesn't know how to play in a neighborhood
- I fullclaim basically an abbreviated version of the above post
- He claims normal neighbor
- He asks if he's making sense in thread
- I have no clue what posts hes talking about and ask him what he means
- I get REALLY frustrated, ten days later, that he hasn't responded yet
- He goes, "When I'm town I look scummy" and excuses not posting in the topic by not knowing what to do in these neighbor QTs
- I make the posts re: Jesters for future reference
- WEEKS go by and he finally goes OH MAN I FORGOT ABOUT OUR LITTLE QT LOL
- I submit my action to put us on separate shifts because (see above)

Based on all this, why are you voting the Goat instead?

UNVOTE:

Reck said he is a 1 shot shift manipulator and put him and hiplop on different shifts. Wouldn't it be better to wait until D.1 to see if it happens? Because if we lynch hiplop right now, we aren't able to confirm Reck, even though I have my doubts about his claim anyway. And I also wouldn't mind if hiplop would post his part of the story and do something.

[Aronis]

Make up your mind, Reck.

VOTE: hiplop

How am I not making up my mind?

I don't feel I've actually said one thing or the other about hiplop. I think, if I were to be honest with myself, I found him a bit scummy in our neighbor topic but he's actually useful to me in some way so I'm loathe to see him swing.

I think not lynching hiplop this phase is

probably

a good move.

Tbh, he hasn't really posted anything here either. If he doesn't show up soon, I'm content with killing him.

And think the shifts can only change every 8 shifts.

[Aronis]

VOTE: Peregrine

Soooo fake.

[Aronis]

VOTE: Peregrine

Soooo fake.

Which part was fake?

You keep acting like you don't understand the shifts.

[Aronis]

UNVOTE:

Venmar was fired. I don't want to lynch hiplop/Reck, so the goat is the only logical wagon.

VOTE: The Goat

[Aronis]

PEOPLE ON THE NIGHT SHIFT!
WHY ARE YOU LYNCHING IKA!?!

I don't really want to lynch ika at this point. My vote stays on The Goat. The divide between the shifts is obvious. It's like the goal is to lynch a member of the other shift and we're outnumbered.

[Aronis]

VOTE: goodmorning

I'm certainly not opposed to that lynch.

[Aronis]

I don't want to lynch the lovers until tomorrow.

[Aronis]

i do think aronis should be killed, but only for the same reason i want most of our lurkers dead;
i'd rather brian shoot him. Like, now.

I like the idea of a 14.5 lynch, but lemme see.

I am on vacation. I haven't posted in much of anything for the past 5 days. So once you figure out a good reason, come talk to me.

[Aronis]

wtf, did my lover die?

sry

reck

This really makes me doubt the lover claim. Doubting the lover claim makes me think they're mafia.

So,

VOTE: Sven

[Aronis]

UNVOTE:

I don't even know what to do anymore. The Reck and Dry-fit kills seem weird, but whatev.

[Aronis]

I guess Brian isn't here? But I don't understand whynhe wants to lynch ika/hiplop, then turns around and shoots dryfit. That makes no sense at all.

Ij needs to quit posting in the shift.

I don't really understand the 14.5 wagon, but then again, I don't understand much of anything.

So I have two theories about the Reck kill. #1 is that scum is afraid of him and hiplop with the pt/qt and all, plus his ability, so they shot him to break up the pair and get rid of the 'stronger' guy. #2 is that scum is trying to protect hiplop and they're worried about Recknfiguring out his alignment and getting him lynched, so they shot him. Kinda thinking #1, but idk.

[Aronis]

vote 14.5

no
nonono
nono

Explain
ExplainExplainExplain
ExplainExplain

Saying No doesn't cut it.

[Aronis]

Aronis
hiplop
ika
PeregrineV


4 fucking people.....

can we pick here now?

Why are you on your own list? Unless you are a Jester, there is no reason for you to include yourself. If you are really town, then why on earth would you lynch yourself, a conf town [to you]!?

And why am I on that list?

[Aronis]

can we kill 14.5 now? thanks.
also while I agree that the presence of the lovers unsettles me PV's reasoning was pretty awful and I'm going to look back on my read.

I thought we decided the reck/hiplop thing was town/town? Why is hiplop on your list?
the fact that the shitty ika wagon derailed into the shittier goodmorning wagon tells me ika is probably town.

that leaves aronis and pv.

i'd rather lynch 14.5.

Give me some reasons about why 14.5 should die instead of you.

[Aronis]

Go home, this is not your shift.

How hard is it for you people to figure out how the shifts work? This isn't Rocket Science.

okay, come on, let's try thinking
We probably have like two free lynches before LYLO
Let's just play a logic game and come up with two people who, probabilistically speaking, are most likely to be scum
and then lynch them

If you got to pick the next two lynches, who would they be?

because up until recently PV hasn't said anything randomly unwarranted.

14.5 was being incredibly pushy on IJ and it seemed like he was stretching a lot of points to make Jesters seem really bad.
His #2913 read as contradictive to me (if you're town then i'm town except you're not town, but i'm still town?)

I personally think the lovers are the only people who have provided consistent pro-town discussion.

If you're going to kill me then vig me otherwise you'll end up wasting a lot of time on a lynch that's going to flip town.

I mean do what you must; it's optimal to not have me around in endgame. I have quite a bit of WIFOM about my person...

So? It doesn't mean he should be ignored.

Sven, yes. Idk about IJ. Still not 100% sure that they're town.

Wait, what? IF you are town, we'd be losing a kill regardless of how. I don't see how it's much different.

So you're wanting to die or something? Not exactly understanding this. If you're town, there is absoulutely no reason to voluntarily die.

[Aronis]

Brian. Vote your top scum read, please.

[Aronis]

Ooh, did someone else join the game?

[Aronis]

VOTE: 14.5

did you actually read after I said that or are you just blindly sheeping lol

no and i dont care to read it atm, my vacation didnt exactly help me. if anything it made it worse atm so i am extending it untill further notice

Well. If you have no intention of reading anything. Maybe you should wait on voting anything?

[Aronis]

Ep3 Day

Aronis
14.5
hiplop
TheGoat

Ep3 Night

Jordan
ika
Inf Jest
Zephryr
Sven
Zedenek

Serene

I love how people make all these hidden hydras, then screw up and give themselves away.

[Aronis]

Sounds repetitive, but I read back, and I STILL don't see a persuasive argument for anyone else.

vote ika

Why is ika scum?

Gah, after reading im still convinced ika is town. He seems like apathetic town rather than scum and I really don't think I can support the wagon. 14.5 is a bit suspicious but is still mostly null.

What wagons can you support?

[Aronis]

for me it would be

14.5 > zepher > aronis > ika, i think

Why that group of players? And you think? It sounds like you're not the person making these reads, you're just echoing them.

[Aronis]

FOUND IT!

Aronis
hiplop
ika
PeregrineV

4 people, at least one scum

remove me b/ i know im town adn your left with

Aronis
hiplop
PeregrineV

everone: out of these 3 who is scum and why?

@anraois, im leaving you there just so everyone can speculate, i belive your town overall but just want to see what people say.

also: people whiteknighting me, as much as you want to save my myslynch, it makes me parianoid that scums might be doing it for town cred. i'll look back and deice who is possible scum vs town in my whiteknighting later

Is this list based on reads or have you like cracked the scum shift changes?

Atm probably leaning towards PV or hiplop. PV has just slipped under the radar and hasn't done much at all. hiplop is just too uncertain and doesn't fell genuine.

[Aronis]

K, cool. Thanks.

[Aronis]

So, ika. Who do you think is the most likely to be scum out of [Me, PV, hiplop]?

[Aronis]

At the start I'd say five, maybe six considering white flag, idk.

[Aronis]

PV, is ika your top scumread? If not, who is?

[Aronis]

So, ika. Who do you think is the most likely to be scum out of [Me, PV, hiplop]?

i could technacly make a case on you for being V/LA for so long but that is underhand tacitc if somone tries to pull that. after you V/LA you seemed to have jumoed into the game and activly engadge in it.

If you want to discuss this, look at every game I was in during that time. I was inactive in all of them. Then, if you're still not convinced, look at all of my previous scum games, never have I been gone that long. So yeah, feel free to lynch me, but come up with better reasons then my V/LA and Gut, K?

[Aronis]

VOTE: PeregrineV

Not really liking him, but I'm always open to hiplop.

[Aronis]

It looks like were pretty much down to 14.5/Zepher. :/ Gonna try to check them out.

[Aronis]

VOTE: Mr. Zepher

The 14.5 wagon sucks. Zepher hasn't done much other then tunnel 14.5 and god only knows why.

[Aronis]

VOTE: Ika

Why?

[Aronis]

for me it would be

14.5 > zepher > aronis > ika, i think

Why that group of players? And you think? It sounds like you're not the person making these reads, you're just echoing them.

I literally looked at the vote count and listed off which wagons I would prefer. Not sure what is confusing about that group of players?

I think zepher looks kind of fishy, but honestly is there any huge case against him? Just wondering if I missed something?

I feel like 14.5 has contributed a LOT more then Zepher. I'm not really up for lynching ika atm and I'm town. I feel like Zepher is just tunneling 14.5 who just happens to be the main counterwagon to himself.

[Aronis]

The lovers aren't scum-scum, so the solution: Leave them alone. It's white flag. Just catch the other scum.

[Aronis]

Well Zepher, you're lucky. It looks like the town has decided to be inactive and not lynch on time.

[Aronis]

VOTE: zepher

VOTE: Svenskt

Two votes. No explanation or anything.

[Aronis]

VOTE: zepher

Perhaps a "lovers" flavor claim would be for the best.

He can't be troubled to do anything except vote for mislynches. We should just lynch him and find out.

[Aronis]

Actually I'm pretty sure sven is silenced, which make's Aronis' vote look really bad.

lynch me or whatever, but lynch either Aronis or 14.5 tomorrow.
Zdenek or Goat are also good places to look.

pv is town.

Don't they say when people are silenced? And they didn't?

[Aronis]

I got moved again? Cool, I guess.

VOTE: Hiplop

This vote would make it impossible for me to hammer, right?

So yes, if I was paying attention, I could've put him at L-1 but to what avail?

[Aronis]

VOTE: zepher

this is l-1. Isnt the best vote, but he seems shifty as fuck to me

This is depressing. Along with the rest of this game.

VOTE: Hiplop

He has refused to take a stance on anything. He knows it's a goddamn mislynch, so he's trying to avoid taking credit for lynching or doing anything.

[Aronis]

14.5: Who's y'all's top scumread?

SleepyKrew: What all do you know? Have you caught up? Any reads?

[Aronis]

14.5: Who's y'all's top scumread?

Still zepher. Followed by Sleepy's slot.

Looking at ika's PoE pool, my top choice there would be you.

Why?

[Aronis]

Idk about SleepyKrew. I want to give him a chance for now. IJ is a risky lynch, I really think one of them could be scum, but if they end up both being town, that's a huge blow. Goat is prob my top lynch candidate from that group for now.

[Aronis]

I still don't want to lynch Zeph atm, I just don't see why exactly. Pv is much more scummier imo.

[Aronis]

vote Aronis.

This vote will not move.

Not only has Aronis proven to me to be staggeringly anti-town regardless of actual role alignment, but his ISO looks pretty shady.

[Aronis]

The lovers aren't scum-scum, so the solution: Leave them alone. It's white flag. Just catch the other scum.

Well Zepher, you're lucky. It looks like the town has decided to be inactive and not lynch on time.

especially when you made these two comments literally 14 hours before voting a lover and not lynching on time

Reads change, Zepher is alot more town then you atm.

[Aronis]

And about the lovers, I wasn't going after because y'all were alot more helpful then others, but that changed obv.

[Aronis]

And about the lovers, I wasn't going after because y'all were alot more helpful then others, but that changed obv.

What changed in that short span of time?

I looked over stuff and changed my reads.

[Aronis]

And that stuff is...?

His earlier posts, etc. Maybe if you actually read the game you might know.

[Aronis]

So is someone going to give me a Zephyr case? No? Okay.
I'm going to make a thing about Peregrine but first I need to reassess to see if he's scum or just bad.
Also need to look at ika for *something*

Nobody else seems to have a case on him, as you should be able to see. When I voted him I was pretty much sheeping 'town', until looking over things, when I saw how he was alot more town then the rest of them. Why do you care so much anyways? Reads change, just bc some1 gets townread d1, doesn't mean they're conf town imo.

[Aronis]

And don't you dare fucking say that Jordan saw what you saw and that's why he unvoted.

Maybe he did. Reads change, dummy.

[Aronis]

It'd help if people were even semi intelligent around here. . .

[Aronis]

Anyways, when I get mislynched, hiplop needs to die asap, he hasn't done a damn thing and is just trying to coast with his neighborhood in which reck was scumreading him, of course you idiots prob missed that, but whatev.

[Aronis]

So educate me.

Hiplop has scum. Have you seen his posts? Every single one is useless and him just coasting on being townread.

[Aronis]

Well Zepher, you're lucky. It looks like the town has decided to be inactive and not lynch on time.

you're still calling zepher scum right here!!!!

4 posts before you allegedly "read over some stuff and changed your mind"

VOTE: Mr. Zepher

The 14.5 wagon sucks. Zepher hasn't done much other then tunnel 14.5 and god only knows why.

had you not read zepher's posts when you asserted that he hadn't done anything other than tunnel 14.5?

I was just sheeping the stupid people I thought were town. I had read some, but not enough to get a solid read and determine zephers innocence. But go on and mislynch me turning a blind eye to hiplop and the scum.

[Aronis]

Aronis, PV, ika, The Goat

^at least 2 scum in there

^at least 2 scum in there

more likely three

possibly even all four!

Actually if Aronis is scum, Zepher almost certainly has to be as well?

Zepher isn't scum. For god's sake, read the damn game.

[Aronis]

Oh you're already voting Aronis

Yeah Ik, these people suck and the worst part is that the lovers are conf town. Shows how awful they play, you'd think they'd use that status to boost their game to the next level.

[Aronis]

Give me something to read.
Oh wait I've already asked for actual posts multiple times.

Start by isoing Zepher, then if you can't figure it out, read the whole game. Then if you still can't figure it out, get some glasses and try again. Then if you still can't, crawl into a hole and wait to die.

[Aronis]

When did they become conf town and why was I not informed of this?

Oh yeah, umm I meant that they were just a strong townread of mine.

[Aronis]

Specifically we're unconvinced by the sudden progression of your Zeph read at the end of the day phase.

Excluding Skrew, what was your thoughts on Zednek?

Idk. I'd heed to look over him. Atm, the only reads I'm like 100percent positive about is my hiplop scum and that the lovers and zepher are town.

[Aronis]

Zepher and the lovers are town. In the first group scum is anyone except ij and their are prob two scum. In the next group hiplop is super scum. And Idk about the last group zeph and lovers are town, I think jordan is, but idk.

[Aronis]

Unfortunately I think SleepyKrew is town and I'm having second thoughts about zepher and the lovers.

[Aronis]

Unfortunately I think SleepyKrew is town and I'm having second thoughts about zepher and the lovers.

REASONS
reasons
plz

Zepher is prob town, but I don't think he's like as super town as he was, idk. And the lovers could be scum, but I don't really think so.

[Aronis]

We should lynch them for lurking. Like all the scum are doing it prob.

[Aronis]

well for example you're fast approaching the point where you will pass Hiplop and The Goat in post count in this thread. While you have done a lot of double and triple posting, just at a glance is makes me say "man, these players haven't done shit". And I'd be right. (I'd throw Zeph, and Jordan into that conversation of haven't done shit too).

Also it's a holiday chill out.

Zeph's helped some, idk about jordan.

Only half this hydra is un-American.

I'm sorry.

[Aronis]

I sware. I give up. Just end this.

[Aronis]

Oh I forgot The Goat was here. Hey. Goat. Are you here?

No. He's busy planning the next mislynch after me.

[Aronis]

Ik, he needs to die.

VOTE: The Goat