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Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sat May 31, 2014 4:09 am

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Mini 1578: The Lord of the Rings mafia
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GAME EVENTS LOG:

D1 - Frodo is lynched.
N1: Aragorn is killed.

D2 - Sméagol is lynched.
N2: Lurtz and Sam are killed.

D3 - Boromir is lynched.
N3: Treebeard is killed.

D4 - The Witch-King of Angmar is lynched.
N4: Merry is killed.

D5: Saruman is Lynched. Game is over, town wins.


Rooster:
[x]is confirmed

[x]ThreetoMango - a hydra of {3dicerolling, MTD, mastin2}
[x]Protogonos
[x]Bulbazak
[x]Fail Hydra - a hydra of {PiggyGal15, silavor}
[x]snscompt1
[x]Drew-Sta
[x]Freja - a hydra of {Dr Pants, ToastyToast}
[x]RachMarie
[x]reinoe
[x]ProHawk
[x]Aronis
[x]Toogeloo
[x]Guyett

Still fighting the forces of the(ir) enemy: (3)

Spoiler: Alive
Protogonos
RachMarie
Guyett


Given up hope:(10)

Spoiler: Dead
reinoe - Frodo,
town
ringbearer, Lynched D1
Prohawk - Aragorn,
town
Friendly Neighbour, Killed N1
Drew-Sta - Sméagol,
town
ringbearer, Lynched D2
Bulbazak - Lurtz,
scum
Goon, Killed N2
Toogeloo - Sam,
town
VT, Killed N2
ThreetoMango - Boromir,
town
bodyguard, Lynched D3
Freja - Treebeard,
town
one shot vig, Killed N3
Fail Hydra - The Witch-King of Angmar,
Scum
One-shot Vanillaizer, Lynched D4
snscompt1 - Merry,
town
VT, Killed N4
Aronis - Saruman,
Scum
Rolecop, Lynched D5


Fallen to the fires of Mount Doom:
Spoiler: Modkilled
none, let's keep it that way..


One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them;
One Ring to bring them all - and in the darkness bind them.


During the middle of the second age, in the fires of Mount Doom was forged a ring. That ring was malevolent - and powerful as no other object; and wielding it, the Necromancer - Sauron - was almost too powerful to fight against.

It is now the third age of Middle Earth. The free peoples of Middle Earth are on a quest to destroy this ring - but the enemy forces will not rest to prevent that.

Will they succeed?



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GAME RULES

(Taken and modified with permission from Guyett who shamelessly stole it from Maestro <3)
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This is my color(0000BF) - Do not use it.

* Be an active participant in this game. Players who have not posted for 2 days [48 hours] will be prodded.
* After a prod is sent, players have 1 day [24 hours] to respond IN-THREAD in some way, or they will be replaced.
* On a third prod I might replace you.
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You may also PM me at any time.

* Days will be 2 weeks [14 days] long. Players may request deadline extensions with reasoning.
* Nights will be 2 days [48 hours] long. Extensions will only be made for replacement finding.

* Votes will only be counted if they are in a format such as
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* If I make a mistake, correct me.

* You may vote "No Lynch".
* If no lynch has been reached by deadline - nobody will be lynched.
* If half the players+1(rounded down) vote No Lynch - the day will immediately end with no lynch.

* You may not quote anything from me that has not been made public.

* You are alive and can post until I declare you dead.
* Once you are dead, you are dead, no "bah".

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Hello
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You are Barliman Butterbur:
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You are a
Town Aligned
Man
- and the proud owner of The Prancing Pony, an Inn in Bree. Your place is also a fine bar, which Aragorn likes visiting. You can also see some Hobbits here and there visiting the place - apart, of course, from Bob and Nob - your Hobbit employees.

Your Abilities:

Your only power is your mouth to talk and your vote to help lynching; you have no special abilities.


You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.[/i][/color]
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sat May 31, 2014 4:12 am

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Role PMs are soon going to be sent. Game will start when 11/13 have confirmed.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Sat May 31, 2014 10:25 am

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In post 1, shos wrote:
Role PMs are soon going to be sent
. Game will start when 11/13 have confirmed.
Role PMs are officially out within 10 minutes of thsi post. Post your confirmations here!
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Post Post #4 (isolation #3) » Sat May 31, 2014 10:59 am

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In post 2, shos wrote:
In post 1, shos wrote:
Role PMs are soon going to be sent
. Game will start when 11/13 have confirmed.
Role PMs are officially out within 10 minutes of thsi post. Post your confirmations here!
Yeah that took alittle more than 10 minutes, but it's all out!

All hydras are requested to PM me their hydra QT/other means of self-talk, if they wish, just for my amusement :)
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Post Post #12 (isolation #4) » Sat May 31, 2014 12:04 pm

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if it isn't clear, if anyone has any questions about their role, abilities, or even win condition, name, and flavor - you are welcome to send me a PM. also if you want to chitchat. you're also allowed to post here pregame lol

by the looks of it, game will be able to rise when I am at work. so I'll open it in about 16 hours, assuming all confirmations are in.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #5) » Sat May 31, 2014 12:53 pm

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2 more confirmations!!...

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Post Post #22 (isolation #6) » Sat May 31, 2014 9:18 pm

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Everyone confirmed. Game will start when I get home.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:27 am

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buump
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Post Post #24 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:27 am

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buuuuuuuuuuuump
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Post Post #25 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:27 am

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Day 1 start!!


Good luck everyone :) have fun.

Votecount 1.0[x]ThreetoMango (0).
[x]Protogonos (0).
[x]Bulbazak (0).
[x]Fail Hydra (0).
[x]snscompt1 (0).
[x]Drew-Sta (0).
[x]Freja (0).
[x]RachMarie (0).
[x]reinoe (0).
[x]ProHawk (0).
[x]Aronis (0).
[x]Toogeloo (0).
[x]Guyett (0).

[x]No Lynch(0).

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-15 11:23:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #1:
J.R.R. Tolkien has constructed over 20 languages in his lifetime, most of them are in the Lord of the Rings.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:25 am

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Will do.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:04 am

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Votecount 1.1 - A LYNCH HAS BEEN REACHEDThreetoMango (1) - Drew-Sta.
Protogonos (0).
Bulbazak (0).
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (0).
reinoe (7) - ThreetoMango, Guyett, ProHawk, Toogeloo, Bulbazak, Aronis, reinoe - LYNCH.

ProHawk (1) - RachMarie.
Aronis (0).
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (1) - Freja.

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(3) - snscompt1, Fail Hydra, Protogonos.

With 13 alive, it took 7 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline was supposed to be in (expired on 2014-06-15 11:23:58)

Nobody is due prods.(gonna have to add lol here)


Fun Fact #2:
The name "Frodo" originates in fród, which means "wise by experience" in Old English.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:44 am

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reinoe, Frodo, has been lynched.
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He was a town
Hobbit Ringbearer.



Night 1 starts now. The next day will start in (expired on 2014-06-04 10:43:58)

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Post Post #162 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:22 am

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Night has ended.

ProHawk,
Town aligned
Aragorn/Elessar, Friendly neighbour, has died.[/size]
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It is now Day 2.[/align][/b]
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Post Post #163 (isolation #14) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:05 am

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Votecount 2.0ThreetoMango (0).
Protogonos (0).
Bulbazak (0).
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (0).
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(11) - All.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-18 14:06:58)

Nobody is due prods.(prod time counter reset)


Fun Fact #3:
In one of the parodies made on Lord of the Rings, Aragorn has no skill in battle, he just shouts random nonsense and battle cries and the enemies are disabled because they can't avoid laughing to death. or something.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:53 pm

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Votecount 2.1ThreetoMango (0).
Protogonos (2) - guyett, snscompt1.
Bulbazak (1) - Freja
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (1) - Toogeloo.
Aronis (2) - Protogonos, Drew-Sta.
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(5) - Aronis, RachMarie, Fail Hydra, Bulbazak, ThreetoMango.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-18 14:06:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #4:
Lord of the Rings is the most-grossing film series in all times, reaching almost 3
BILLION
dollars. that's fuckin' massive.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #16) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:39 am

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Lolololololol (and bump)
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Post Post #225 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:39 am

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Votecount 2.2ThreetoMango (0).
Protogonos (3) - guyett, snscompt1, Bulbazak.
Bulbazak (1) - Freja.
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (1) - Toogeloo.
Aronis (2) - Protogonos, Drew-Sta.
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(5) - Aronis, RachMarie, Fail Hydra, ThreetoMango.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-18 14:06:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #5:
In the Peter Jackson movies, the miniature that was built for the filming of Barad-dûr was 15 feet high(!!). The one that was made for Orthanc, Saruman's tower, was as big as an entire car park, and the one for Minas Tirith included over a thousand houses. examples :D

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Post Post #265 (isolation #18) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:16 am

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Votecount 2.3ThreetoMango (0).
Protogonos (4) - guyett, Bulbazak, Drew-Sta.
Bulbazak (1) - Freja.
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (1) - Toogeloo.
Aronis (2) - Protogonos, snscompt1.
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(4) - Aronis, RachMarie, Fail Hydra, ThreetoMango.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-18 14:06:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #6:
The last fun fact was really awesome, but Sir Christopher Lee, is even more awesome. The guy has turned 92 in the last two weeks, and he's still acting, singing, voicing, etc. just read his bio - he is frekin awesome.
oh yeah, the fact. Saruman - Sir Christopher Lee - was 79 years old when they *started* filming the first movie. Today, at 92, he is still active.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #19) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:56 am

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boobs! :D
eh, I mean, bump.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #20) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:56 am

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whoopsiedaisy, anotherbump
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Post Post #300 (isolation #21) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:56 am

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Votecount 2.4 (unchanged)ThreetoMango (0).
Protogonos (4) - guyett, Bulbazak, Drew-Sta.
Bulbazak (1) - Freja.
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (1) - Toogeloo.
Aronis (2) - Protogonos, snscompt1.
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(4) - Aronis, RachMarie, Fail Hydra, ThreetoMango.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-18 14:06:58)

I'm gonna be busy next week, so I pre-prodded Aronis and ThreetoMango. This will only count as a prod if they don't post until 48 hours have passed from their last post.


Fun Fact #7:
Galadriel is about 1854 years older than Elrond.
Fun Fact #8:
It took me about 20 minutes to calculate fun fact #7.


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Post Post #304 (isolation #22) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:31 pm

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In post 301, snscompt1 wrote:
@Mod: It says Proto has four votes when he only has three.
The votecount is accurate.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #23) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:31 am

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Votecount 2.5ThreetoMango (0).
Protogonos (4) - guyett, Bulbazak, Drew-Sta.
Bulbazak (1) - Freja.
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (2) - Toogeloo, Fail Hydra.
Aronis (2) - Protogonos, snscompt1.
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(3) - Aronis, RachMarie, ThreetoMango.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-18 14:06:58)

Nobody has been prodded yet, since Aronis was V/LA.


Mod note: PLEASE keep your walls inside spoilers like 342.

Fun Fact #9:
One of the effects the One Ring had on its wearers was that their hearing was sharpened.

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Post Post #390 (isolation #24) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:27 pm

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In post 364, Aronis wrote:
Mod, I'm sorry, but please replace me.


I'm on vacation and already don't have time for this game, let alone this group of idiots.
In post 378, Aronis wrote:
Mod, Do Mafia have daytalk?
I am not at liberty to answer that question.

Are you replacing out or not? Give me a final decision please asap.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #25) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:42 am

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In post 391, Drew-Sta wrote:
Shos, can you let me know what booze you enjoy drinking? Beer, spirits, wine?

Also, do you prefer mafia when it is played with people drinking or sober?

In beers I like drinking Guiness, Murphy's, and others alike. Oyster Stout is my favorite. In whiskey I like Black Label; other drinks that I like include Barenjagger, Drambuie, Van-gogh vodka in all flavors, Bailey's. I don't like most of the wines :(

and I prefer when mafia is played drunk, of course. Most creative thoughts come at that time, and also, most honest, or most cunning scum play. It just adds enthusiasm to the game.


Votecount 2.6 - A LYNCH HAS BEEN REACHED.ThreetoMango (0).
Protogonos (2) - Bulbazak, Drew Sta.
Bulbazak (1) - Freja.
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Drew-Sta (6) - Protogonos, Aronis, Fail Hydra, Guyett, Toogeloo - LYNCH.
Freja (0).
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (1) - snscompt1.
Toogeloo (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(2) - RachMarie, ThreetoMango.

With 11 alive, it took 6 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline was supposed to be in (expired on 2014-06-18 14:06:58)

Nobody has been prodded yet.


Aronis, please PM me if you do NOT want out. Looking for replacement for Aronis.
Great.

Fun Fact #10:
Andy Serkis not only played Gollum and Smeagol, but also, one of the orcs. He is the one who wants to eat Merry and Pippin, and asks "what about their legs?", answered by *cool dialogue* and decapitated and eaten :D

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Post Post #408 (isolation #26) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:53 am

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Drew-Sta, Sméagol, has been lynched.
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Stoor Hobbit Ringbearer.


Night 2 starts now. The next day will start in (expired on 2014-06-12 14:03:58)
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Post Post #409 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:34 am

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Toogeloo, Samwise Gamgee, has been killed.
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Hobbit VT.



•••••••♪•••••••••♪••••••••••♪•••••••••••♪



Bulbazak, Lurtz, has been killed.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:13 pm

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keep it civil! Ill br making a VC when I can, sorry.
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Post Post #520 (isolation #29) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:51 am

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Votecount 3.1ThreetoMango (4) - Aronis, Freja, guyett.
Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (1) - ThreetoMango.
Aronis (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(4) - RachMarie, Protogonos, Fail Hydra, snscompt1.

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Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-26 14:03:58).

Nobody has been prodded yet.


Fun Fact #11:

Durin's Bane, the Balrog who fought with gandalf and stuff - had wings. So in the movies - well - he could just fly back up if he wanted.


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Post Post #612 (isolation #30) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:45 pm

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Votecount 3.2 -A LYNCH HAS BEEN REACHED.ThreetoMango (5) - Aronis, Freja, Protogonos, guyett - LYNCH.
Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
Freja (0).
RachMarie (2) - ThreetoMango, Fail Hydra.
Aronis (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(2) - RachMarie, snscompt1.

With 8 alive it took 5 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline was supposed to be in (expired on 2014-06-26 14:03:58).

Nobody has been prodded yet.


Fun Fact #12:
In the Return of the King, Peter Jackson plays a role of a Corsair of Umbar.

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Post Post #613 (isolation #31) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:58 pm

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ThreetoMango, Boromir, has been lynched.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #32) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:17 pm

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Freja, Treebeard, has been killed.
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One-shot Vigilante.


Day 4 starts now. Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-30 05:03:58).

Votecount 4.0Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (0).
snscompt1 (0).
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

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Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-30 05:03:58)

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Fun Fact #13:
Treebeard is the oldest being in Middle Earth, possibly. The only other option is Tom Bombadil, who was there even before the Valar came.
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Post Post #620 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:27 am

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Votecount 4.1Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (1) - RachMarie.
snscompt1 (0).
RachMarie (1).
Aronis (0).
Guyett (1) - Guyett.

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(4) - Aronis, snscompt1, Fail Hydra, Protogonos.


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Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-30 05:03:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #13 correction:
As pointed to me by MTD, in fact there is another option. Treebeard himself calls the elves 'the eldest of all'; and it is unknown which came first: The first 144 elves or the Ents. So let's just crown Bombadil, eh?
As the Ents were of the Children of Ilúvatar, they might or might not have awoken in Middle-earth at the same time as the Eldar.
Lord of the Rings wiki


so point is there are other options :/

Fun Fact #14:
The Haradrim were men who lived to the south of Middle Earth. In the Lord of the Rings, they allied Sauron, and used the Oliphants as their warbeasts; nobody knows how they managed to tame them.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:02 am

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Votecount 4.2Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (1) - RachMarie.
snscompt1 (1) - Aronis.
RachMarie (1).
Aronis (1) - snscompt1.
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(3) - Guyett, Fail Hydra, Protogonos.


With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-30 05:03:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #15:
Gimli the Dwarf, did not join the journey in "The Hobbit" because he was forbidden; the reason: he was too young. He was 62 years old. Later, when he was 138, he joined the Fellowship.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #35) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:46 am

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Votecount 4.3Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (1) - RachMarie.
snscompt1 (1) - Fail Hydra.
RachMarie (1).
Aronis (1) - snscompt1.
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(3) - Guyett, Protogonos, Aronis.


With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-30 05:03:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #16:
Arwen died about 1 year after Aragorn died, in the 121st year of the Fourth Age. However, he was born on Third Age 2931, and she - on Third Age 241..so that makes her 2690 years older than her husband. So much for Anililagnia, lol
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Post Post #737 (isolation #36) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:50 pm

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Votecount 4.4Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (1) - RachMarie.
snscompt1 (2) - Fail Hydra, Aronis.
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (1) - snscompt1.
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(3) - Guyett, Protogonos.


With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-06-30 05:03:58)

Nobody is due prods.


Fun Fact #17:
Gríma, or Wormtongue, was actually the one who told the Nazgûl where the Shire was. He has also killed one Hobbit of the Sackville-Baggins family, after holding him prisoner in Bag end. *drums*
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Post Post #862 (isolation #37) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:14 am

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Sorry for not being here for a day and a half, it was my anniversary.

Votecount 4.5 - A LYNCH HAS OCCURRED.Protogonos (0).
Fail Hydra (4) - RachMarie, snscompt, Guyett - LYNCH..
snscompt1 (2) - Fail Hydra, Aronis.
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(1) - Protogonos.

Not voting(0).


With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline was supposed to be in (expired on 2014-06-30 05:03:58)

Nobody is due prods;
Guyett is in an indefinite V/LA.
At least one head of the Fail Hydra hydra is V/LA until the 23rd of June(doesn't really matter now, does it?)


Fun Fact #18:
Mirkwood, the forest from which Legolas and Thranduil come(
Elves of Mirkwood
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Greenwood
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Post Post #863 (isolation #38) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:18 am

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Fail Hydra, The Witch-King of Angmar, has been lynched.
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Night 4 starts now. The next day will start in (expired on 2014-06-23 09:19:58)
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Post Post #864 (isolation #39) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:37 am

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snscompt1, Merriadoc Brandybuck, has been killed.
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Post Post #896 (isolation #40) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:21 am

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Votecount 5.1Protogonos (0).
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(4) - Protogonos, Aronis, Guyett, RachMarie.


With 4 alive, it takes 3 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-07-05 18:39:58).

Nobody is due prods;
Guyett is in an indefinite V/LA.


Fun Fact #19:
A little bit of music: Howard Shore is the composer of the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy's music; this was a major success for him, and he won an Oscar for it and a Grammy and probably some more that I don't remember. Some of the music for LotR was re-used in other movies' trailers and stuff. In the trailer FOR LotR, iirc for the Two Towers, was used the music from the amazing movie Requiem for a Dream.
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Post Post #900 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:06 am

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Just letting you know lol, I almost prodded sns now lol
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Post Post #906 (isolation #42) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:58 pm

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Votecount 5.2Protogonos (1).
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (0).
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(4) - Protogonos, Aronis, Guyett, RachMarie.


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Deadline is in (expired on 2014-07-05 18:39:58).

Nobody is due prods, but don't get too close please; be active.
Guyett is in an indefinite V/LA.


Fun Fact #20:
The total budget for all three films combined was 281,000,000 USD. for comparison, that's about a half of what was invested into GTA V.
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Post Post #950 (isolation #43) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:21 am

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Votecount 5.2Protogonos (1) - Aronis.
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (1) - Protogonos.
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(2) - Guyett, RachMarie.


With 4 alive, it takes 3 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-07-05 18:39:58).

I should totally be studying now


Fun Fact #21:
Khazâd-dûm literally translates to 'The Dwarves Mansion'.
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Post Post #980 (isolation #44) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:34 am

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HAMMER TIEM


if I fail this test I will personally hunt you all down and kill and ra-- nevermind
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Post Post #981 (isolation #45) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:43 am

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Votecount 5.3 - THA FINAL VOATCOWNTProtogonos (1) - Aronis.
RachMarie (0).
Aronis (3) - Protogonos, Guyett - LYNCH.
Guyett (0).

No Lynch(0).

Not voting(1) - RachMarie.


With 4 alive, it took 3 votes for a lynch/nolynch.
Deadline wass supposed to be in (expired on 2014-07-05 18:39:58).

I should totally be studying now
THIS GAME IS FINALLY OVER


Fun Fact #22:
Nope. Lol
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Post Post #982 (isolation #46) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:50 am

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Aronis has been lynched.


...





Wait for it..







...







Just alittle more..






...



















He was Saruman the White,
scum
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The game is over.

Guyett, Elrond, town doublevoter, has survived and won.
RachMarie, Pergerine Took, VT, has survived and won.
Protogonos, Bilbo Baggins, Ringbearer, has survived and won.

The rest of the town-aligned players who have flipped have won post-mortem, after a brave sacrifice for the freedom of Middle Earth.

CONGRATULATIONS!!
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Post Post #985 (isolation #47) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:53 am

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Dead thread:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/K4UdjvK4tyJ7
Scum QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/SdXjDJvSVsv
Mod topic+notes:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/miWeH99detmQ
planning QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/ik3ziTJ4JfKyZ

Scum should totally have won this game, if instead of gamitting on SNS, Aronis had claimed to have been vanillaized, and bussed FH, IMO.
lots of comments in the QTs, go read up and post here ;)
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Post Post #992 (isolation #48) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:00 am

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You are Boromir:
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You are a
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- and a valiant knight of Gondor. You wield a dagger, a great sword, shield, and the honorable Horn of Gondor - running generations in your family. As the eldest son of the Steward of Gondor, you feel royally committed to your city, and will do anything you can to preserve its glory.


Your Abilities:

Valiance - Every night, you may send me a target of your choice. If in some way that target was to be hurt in that night, you will defend them with as much might as you can muster - and take the dagger yourself. They will not be killed in that night, and you -

- you will fall..glorious.

You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


The game topic is http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56226, confirm your role there.
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You are a
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Your Abilities:

Lord of Rivendell: Your great reputation allows your voice to be heard and, well, be more convincing than the others. At any time during the day, you may send me a private message which includes "VOTE: #name" or "Unvote". This vote/unvote come in addition to your regular vote.

For example: if you VOTE: Shos inthread, and PM me another vote on shos, then the votecount will show,
shos (2) - Guyett.

Note: the VCs are public of course, and as such the parenthesis number is public as well. If people ask, I will confirm that the VC is correct. You can, of course, make two different votes; on shos1 inthread and shos2 in pm:
shos1(1) - Guyett.
shos2(1).


~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


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Your Abilities:

Your only power is your mouth to talk and your vote to help lynching; you have no special abilities.


~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


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Your Abilities:

True Identity: Once during the game, at any time at all, you may PM me the name of a target of your choice. As soon as I see your message, I will send that person the following message:
Hello *target*!
While everyone is doing their business, ProHawk comes to you and whistles.
"It is me, Aragorn! Trust me - I'm town. Here - see? This ring...do you recognize it??"
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You now know that ProHawk is
TOWN ALIGNED
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~~~~~
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Your Abilities:

...with Rock and Stone!
- in one of the nights during the game, you may PM me the name of a target of your choice in the game. By dawn, that player will be eliminated.

~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


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You are a
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- and Bilbo's nephew. You are thirty-three years old, which, is actually quite young for Hobbits - you literally just matured. Your interesting friend Gandalf the Grey seems to be pushing you for an adventure - but you're a Hobbit! Hobbits avoid adventures!..but this Ring..it feels like you're
drawn
to it.


Your Abilities:

You have the One Ring! - Invisibility:
If you have the One Ring
, you can avoid being killed once.

~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


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You are a
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Hobbit
- and Merry's best friend. You are the youngest of everyone in this journey, and everyone knows you're a Took. Your mischievous, naughty mind gets you to this kind of trouble every time - you just can't avoid it, can ye? ..Well boy, let's hope you get out of this one alive!


Your Abilities:

Your only power is your mouth to talk and your vote to help lynching; you have no special abilities.


~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


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You are a
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Stoor Hobbit and Ringbearer
. You lived for long with your family in the Gladden Fields, until one day - on your birthday - you and Déagol, your cousin, found a beautiful ring.. That ring turned you mad, and yet the happiest one can be; but do you actually want it?


Your Abilities:
  • My Precious: Once during every night, if you do not have the Ring(as of now, you don't), you may PM me the name of a target of your choice, and bestow your burglary skills upon it. If that person had the ring that night - you will steal it, and will keep it for yourself.


  • ???????: If you grab a hold of the Ring, you may or may not receive any additional powers it may hold.


  • If you successfully steal the ring, you will become
    Gollum
    , a neutral survivor. That cannot be undone, even if the ring is no longer with you!
~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


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You are a
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Hobbit
- the son of Saradoc Brandybuck - although it is said that you share some Took blood as well. You're a brave and curious Hobbit - you've once witnessed Bilbo disappear into thin air, and well, one has to suspect. When meeting Frodo and Sam in the start of their journey, you helped and tagged along - will you make the difference in parting evil from this land?

Your Abilities:

Your only power is your mouth to talk and your vote to help lynching; you have no special abilities.


~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


The game topic is http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56226, confirm your role there.
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You are Bilbo:
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You are a
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Hobbit Ringbearer
- quite an extraordinary Hobbit. Unlike most of your kind, you like adventure; your past dwellings with dwarves as a 'burglar' are well known by all. After being approached by Gandalf the Grey, you willingly gave up the golden Ring you found back in the old days - and...you kinda regret that.


Your Abilities:
  • My Precious: Once during every night, if you do not have the Ring(you don't, as of now), you may PM me the name of a target of your choice, and bestow your burglary skills upon it. If that person had the ring that night - you will steal it, and will keep it for yourself.


  • ???????: If you grab a hold of the Ring, you may or may not receive any additional powers it may hold.
~~~~~
You win when all threats to the free people of middle earth are diminished.


The game topic is http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56226, confirm your role there.
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You are the Witch-King of Angmar:
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You are a
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- and the leader of the Ringwraiths. You are immensely strong, holding a huge arsenal of weapons and riding your flying steed; and you fear none - as centuries ago a prophecy by Glorfindel claimed: you will be hindered by no living man.


Your Abilities:

Black Breath: Your immense power results in damage to whatever living thing is nearby. In one night during the game, you may direct that damage to a person of your choice. That person will lose any power they might have.


Factional Abilities:

*You can speak with your fellow mates in this QT.
*Factional kill: your team can perform one kill a night, and you can perform that kill.


Note: You may only perform one action per night.


You win when the free people of middle earth are diminished or nothing can prevent this.[/color]


The game topic is http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56226, confirm your role there.
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You are Lurtz:
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You are a
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captain - and the blood-sworn servant of Saruman the White. You are the first and strongest Uruk to arise. As Saruman's second in command, you wield a huge crossbow, a strong shield, a great sword and a couple of knives; and using them is your lust..

Your Abilities:

Your only power is your mouth to talk and your vote to help lynching; you have no special abilities.


Factional Abilities:

*You can speak with your fellow mates in this QT.
*Factional kill: your team can perform one kill a night, and you can perform that kill.


You win when the free people of middle earth are diminished or nothing can prevent this.[/color]


The game topic is http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56226, confirm your role there.
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You are Saruman the White:
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You are a
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- The leader of the White Counsil. You are the first in rank among the Wizards in your order, and are the wisest and most powerful. You can see the dark forces from your tower, Orthanc, and you know what must be done. If you can't beat them, join them.


Your Abilities:

Far Sight: Your Palantir allows you to view beyond; once per night, you may examine a target of your choice and receive their name and role.


Factional Abilities:

*You can speak with your fellow mates in this QT.
*Factional kill: your team can perform one kill a night, and you can perform that kill.


Note: You may only perform one action per night.


You win when the free people of middle earth are diminished or nothing can prevent this.[/color]


The game topic is http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56226, confirm your role there.
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Post Post #999 (isolation #49) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:09 am

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lol PV

The main stuff in the game that actually made it so swingy were
1. D1
2. Bulba getting Vigged
3. Aronis gambits for scum

I was sure scum would win this until the vigging. that was a very nice shot, against a person who was seen as town. considering that scum rolecopped the doublevoter on N1, I wonder how coems he stayed alive to endgame?

most of town PRs got killed before they could do anything; Aragorn died, Boromir lynched and not used, and Frodo died with the ring on D1, which effectively made Bilbo(proto) and smeagol VTs. I found it funny that proto kept searching for the ring.


outguessing the mod about the ring wasn't smart. what were you guys thinking? that you'll just wildly guess my thoughts?

The ring was with Frodo and he was 1-shot BP with it. had it been stolen, the BP would have moved to the thief. had it been used, the ring becomes useless, but still stealable. if it is stolen, frodo can try to steal it back like they can. and if Smeagol found it, he would become Gollum, a survivor. I didn't even make the new role PM ;(


scum's fakeclaim could be performed much better, I agree.

I honestly thought that after D1 bulba & aronis will be SPEEDFUCKINGLYNCHED. I couldn't believe how you guys ignored the fact that they got him to L-2 and 1 AFTER his powerful claim...
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #50) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:16 am

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FUN FACT COMPILATION!!!!
Spoiler: Lots of facts!! yay!!

Fun Fact #1:
J.R.R. Tolkien has constructed over 20 languages in his lifetime, most of them are in the Lord of the Rings.

Fun Fact #2:
The name "Frodo" originates in fród, which means "wise by experience" in Old English.

Fun Fact #3:
In one of the parodies made on Lord of the Rings, Aragorn has no skill in battle, he just shouts random nonsense and battle cries and the enemies are disabled because they can't avoid laughing to death. or something.

Fun Fact #4:
Lord of the Rings is the most-grossing film series in all times, reaching almost 3
BILLION
dollars. that's fuckin' massive.

Fun Fact #5:
In the Peter Jackson movies, the miniature that was built for the filming of Barad-dûr was 15 feet high(!!). The one that was made for Orthanc, Saruman's tower, was as big as an entire car park, and the one for Minas Tirith included over a thousand houses. examples :D

Fun Fact #6:
The last fun fact was really awesome, but Sir Christopher Lee, is even more awesome. The guy has turned 92 in the last two weeks, and he's still acting, singing, voicing, etc. just read his bio - he is frekin awesome.
oh yeah, the fact. Saruman - Sir Christopher Lee - was 79 years old when they *started* filming the first movie. Today, at 92, he is still active.

Fun Fact #7:
Galadriel is about 1854 years older than Elrond.

Fun Fact #8:
It took me about 20 minutes to calculate fun fact #7.

Fun Fact #9:
One of the effects the One Ring had on its wearers was that their hearing was sharpened.

Fun Fact #10:
Andy Serkis not only played Gollum and Smeagol, but also, one of the orcs. He is the one who wants to eat Merry and Pippin, and asks "what about their legs?", answered by *cool dialogue* and decapitated and eaten :D

Fun Fact #11:
Durin's Bane, the Balrog who fought with gandalf and stuff - had wings. So in the movies - well - he could just fly back up if he wanted.

Fun Fact #12:
In the Return of the King, Peter Jackson plays a role of a Corsair of Umbar.

Fun Fact #13:
Treebeard is the oldest being in Middle Earth, possibly. The only other option is Tom Bombadil, who was there even before the Valar came.

Fun Fact #13 correction:
As pointed to me by MTD, in fact there is another option. Treebeard himself calls the elves 'the eldest of all'; and it is unknown which came first: The first 144 elves or the Ents. So let's just crown Bombadil, eh?
As the Ents were of the Children of Ilúvatar, they might or might not have awoken in Middle-earth at the same time as the Eldar.
Lord of the Rings wiki


so point is there are other options :/

Fun Fact #14:
The Haradrim were men who lived to the south of Middle Earth. In the Lord of the Rings, they allied Sauron, and used the Oliphants as their warbeasts; nobody knows how they managed to tame them.

Fun Fact #15:
Gimli the Dwarf, did not join the journey in "The Hobbit" because he was forbidden; the reason: he was too young. He was 62 years old. Later, when he was 138, he joined the Fellowship.

Fun Fact #16:
Arwen died about 1 year after Aragorn died, in the 121st year of the Fourth Age. However, he was born on Third Age 2931, and she - on Third Age 241..so that makes her 2690 years older than her husband. So much for Anililagnia, lol

Fun Fact #17:
Gríma, or Wormtongue, was actually the one who told the Nazgûl where the Shire was. He has also killed one Hobbit of the Sackville-Baggins family, after holding him prisoner in Bag end. *drums*

Fun Fact #18:
Mirkwood, the forest from which Legolas and Thranduil come(
Elves of Mirkwood
) has once been called
Greenwood
. However, about 1900~ years before the Lord of the Rings story, Sauron regained powers and lay in Dol Guldur, and the people who considered him a 'necromancer' started calling the forest Mirkwood.

Fun Fact #19:
A little bit of music: Howard Shore is the composer of the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy's music; this was a major success for him, and he won an Oscar for it and a Grammy and probably some more that I don't remember. Some of the music for LotR was re-used in other movies' trailers and stuff. In the trailer FOR LotR, iirc for the Two Towers, was used the music from the amazing movie Requiem for a Dream.

Fun Fact #20:
The total budget for all three films combined was 281,000,000 USD. for comparison, that's about a half of what was invested into GTA V.

Fun Fact #21:
Khazâd-dûm literally translates to 'The Dwarves Mansion'.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #51) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:22 am

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In post 992, shos wrote:Your Abilities:
You have the One Ring! - Invisibility: If you have the One Ring, you can avoid being killed once.
This is what reinoe misinterpretted.
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #52) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:23 am

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In post 1007, Guyett wrote:Could Proto have burgled reinoe?
he tried post mortem, lol.

In the planning, it was considered, whether stealing from dead bodies will be legit. but I decided that no.
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Post Post #1016 (isolation #53) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:30 am

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In post 1013, Dr Pants wrote:lol @ bulba: "Freya is not someone to be worried about, since he's composed of a newb who doesn't know what he's looking for and a derp that's just as bad."

gloves come off, time to gloat!
The fact that I've gotten you lynched or killed as scum 2 times out of 2 must hit your ego hard :P
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/miWeH99detmQ
see the mod topic, I rofled at that



So guys, as my first modded original, anything to say? improve? balance? decisions?


Thank you all for playing, staying, replacing in, etc. I enjoyed modding this one very much!
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #54) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:56 am

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NLing in that mylo would be entirely useless. you guys had just 1 conftown, which is guyett, and no PRs, so what benefit will it do? it'll just help scum quickhammer if any error is made, and give town one less thinking mind.
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #55) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:47 pm

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In post 1045, Drew-Sta wrote:1/3 ain't bad :p
it kinda is :P

see, if you're in a 12p game as town, choosing randomly a player would result in 1/4...choosing a random 3 and getting 0/3 has chances of...21/55=38%...so basically, if you choose randomly at gamestart, your chances of getting 1/3 or better are 1.6 times larger than your chances to get worse............

so that's bad.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #56) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:19 pm

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well, scum played pretty well up until the vigging, you shouldn't blame yourself :)
also town was very bad until that time too
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #57) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:21 pm

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I, in the mod QT, wrote:"Freya is not someone to be worried about, since he's composed of a newb who doesn't know what he's looking for and a derp that's just as bad."

bulba just said this in the scum QT....after freja chose to vig him. HA! nailed B)
btw that was awesome vigging.

one more thing - Aronis' copping was practically perfect this game
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