Micro 374: Baby Enough Scum 8p - GAME OVER

[kabooooom]

/kunfurming

also,

vote:Molla

MUTINYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kabooooom]

VOTE: BBmolla, he's literally every role. 2evil4me

lol. i have a feeling we are going to get along pretty well.

[kabooooom]

Did someone say mutiny?

listen mate, here's the plan. we mutiny and get the roles from mod. kill the scums, and take the gold. what do you say, savvy?

[kabooooom]

fine then, you will die with him you scaredy cat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vote:molla

MUTINY Continuesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kabooooom]

vote: molla

[kabooooom]

damn! you got me.

btw, it would be scum detected. not identified.

[kabooooom]

vote: molla

The game started. Why are you still doing this?

cos it was rvs.

but sure, if you want me to vote a player..

vote: phallacy

happy?

[kabooooom]

vote: molla

The game started. Why are you still doing this?

cos it was rvs.

but sure, if you want me to vote a player..

vote: phallacy

happy?

You didn't answer my question.

Why

did you decide to vote the mod for RVS, and not a player after the game had already begun?

i wanted to. is that a problem?

[kabooooom]

You're still dodging. Why did you want to? Just answer the fucking question.

there was no fucking reason! what do you expect me to answer to such a stupid question?

I asked a simple question that he's now dodged twice. I'm frustrated by that and find it arrogant, rude, and scummy.

yeah, and if this type of questions you are going to ask the whole game, im just gonna ignore you.

I want to know why he specifically avoided interacting with anyone on the playerlist

wrong. i interacted more then you did.

Instead of giving me a direct answer, he makes a flippant half-assed response, and then you jump to his rescue.

because you, instead of asking a sensible question, ask a stupid question and want a genuine answer. And then u think im rude, arrogant and scummy?
seriously??!!

[kabooooom]

that last part was not supposed to be in quotes. Mod, can you fix that?

Mod: done

[kabooooom]

vote: molla

The game started. Why are you still doing this?

vote: molla

The game started. Why are you still doing this?

cos it was rvs.

but sure, if you want me to vote a player..

vote: phallacy

happy?

You didn't answer my question.

Why

did you decide to vote the mod for RVS, and not a player after the game had already begun?

You're still dodging. Why did you want to? Just answer the fucking question.

er.... I'm not angry that he voted the mod?

I asked a simple question that he's now dodged twice. I'm frustrated by that and find it arrogant, rude, and scummy.

I want to know why he specifically avoided interacting with anyone on the playerlist

after

the game had already begun and the whole joke about voting the mod in confirmation/pregame had run its course. Instead of giving me a direct answer, he makes a flippant half-assed response, and then you jump to his rescue.

Strange indeed.

Still waiting on that answer, kaboom.

this is fake scum hunting. you are just trying to show everyone that you are looking for people's reaction and trying to scum hunt.
also, if you actually find me scummy, why didnt you vote me?

my vote is now serious.

[kabooooom]

I'm not here to rescue him. I find the fact that you're jumping on something so stupid to be quite a strange thing to do. You also assumed I was coming to his rescue when all I did was ask you something. Even if I could have worded it better.

I don't think it's stupid. Why is it stupid? RVS-ing the mod defeats the purpose of RVS. You should RVS a player to create discussion... the point of RVS.

and you think just throwing a bunch of votes here and there will lead to discussion on is own?!

[kabooooom]

Phallacy, are you an alt?

yes. more later.

so yeah, if you find me scummy why didnt you vote me?

[kabooooom]

I'm not here to rescue him. I find the fact that you're jumping on something so stupid to be quite a strange thing to do. You also assumed I was coming to his rescue when all I did was ask you something. Even if I could have worded it better.

I don't think it's stupid. Why is it stupid? RVS-ing the mod defeats the purpose of RVS. You should RVS a player to create discussion... the point of RVS.

and you think just throwing a bunch of votes here and there will lead to discussion on is own?!

Yes.

well then, you have a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way to go. ^^

in rvs, it doesnt matter whom you vote or why you vote, because rvs vote doesnt have any value, no one is actually afraid of rvs vote. what matters it what you say(pressure, accuse etc.).

[kabooooom]

Why do you say I have a long way to go?

Because you are wrong. For example, if i wouldnt have voted molla, we wouldnt be having this discussion. We probably would be still in RVS just randomly voting each other.
Its not that i cant vote molla in RVS. Infact Rvs is the only time when you can do whatever you want to do. Whats the point of voting molla after RVS is over.

What if I was an experienced player who had said that?

I doubt i would have such argument with experienced player, but if you were an experienced player, i would try to explain you my point but if its no use, i would just ignore you after a point.

[kabooooom]

post #48 is a strong scum post!

So you're saying you do agree that RVS helps discussion and your vote on the mod was for that purpose?

i didn't say that, i just used it as an example.

is this yours and phallacy's master plan to irritate players till they replace out?! Cos if this is, just say it i don't think i will be able to take this shit anymore!

[kabooooom]

48 comes off as too strong of an 'idgaf' post.

yes. But don't you see his changing nature?
he is trying to generate discussion, get reaction and scumhunt. But when i accuse him of fake scumhunting, unable to reply he is just like he doesn't care.
that's a scum, right there!

Forcing town to replace out generally causes the % chance for town to win to go up, which IMO isn't a very smart move on the part of the scumteam.

how is that?

btw, i wasn't actually going to replace out or anything. It was just my was of saying 'stop it'.

[kabooooom]

kaboom

: trust me when I say that Phallacy has more experience than 3 or 4 of you combined.

yeah right. anything else?

My only real problem with Phallacy's play isn't his aggressiveness, but that he didn't accept "cos it's RVS" as an answer. Especially since I cleared up that there really was no other answer.

its not just that.his pressure was fake. he calls me scum but doesnt vote me. He finally votes me but doesnt mention that he is voting me because he thinks im scummy. Avoids any kind of discussion with me. he thinks im scum, but he doesnt try to build pressure on me. all what he is really doing is pressuring doogal to take his vote from him.
There is just scum motivation in his play.

My only real problem with Phallacy's play isn't his aggressiveness, but that he didn't accept "cos it's RVS" as an answer. Especially since I cleared up that there really was no other answer.

Because it's not always "just RVS". I wanted to see how he would respond to further probing.

Then why didnt you pressure me with your full capacity? you didnt even vote me when you first mentioned me scummy.
What information did you get from my response? what were you expecting?

slightly scummy

This is also a great reason to put someone at L-3 in a game with 3 antitown players.

Why are you afraid of L-3 at this stage of game?
you are not even at L-1, so you dont have to be afraid of quick hammer.

Except I think kaboom is scum. So.. why would I unvote?

if you are sure im scum, why are you playing so defensive? you pressured doogal pretty hard to unvote you. so why not also show him that he should vote me? if you are not sure im scum, its just a doubt, then why have you stopped interacting with me?

If you admit freely that you are not an expert at scumhunting and repeatedly find yourself at the end of a rope on D1,

kindly refrain from attempting to read us based on whether or not you think we are scumhunting and leave it to someone else in the thread who has more experience doing so

. Your read on us is irrelevant in this regard because you are using a measuring stick for something you don't even know how to do yourself.

ok. cool. so what you are saying is, he should just follow some experienced player, since he is not so experienced. and in your post #61 you say you have more experience than 3 or 4 of us combined, then why dont you show us post where you scum hunt? im scum right? so in which posts do you scum intentions?

And had I noticed Bins was at L-3, I might have said something, but for some reason I also thought that L-3 was a lot more votes than just 2. I'm very much used to larger games.

poor excuse!

[kabooooom]

Another scum post!

LOL kaboom. You signed up a few months ago. We are a hydra of two very experienced players with high win rates. I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself now.

if you are saying truth, you are in trouble. because you cant have secret hydras. And if you are lying.....gotta scum!

I'm not sure why you are expecting a fully fleshed out case on Page 2 or 3,

well, if you are so sure im scum in Page-2 or 3, then i do expect a fully fleshed case.

but it's not going to happen. I'll vote where I wish, and I'll reveal my conclusions when I wish.

if everyone starts replying like this game isnt going to move forward.

You call my pressure on you "fake" but you are the one who has responded so defensively.

show me where?

Not to mention the false bravado that is very unlike you, so yeah. You're scum.

elaborate.

You say there is scum motivation. Please do explain which post, what is the motivation behind it, and why you think it comes from scum?

You ask, you get. as soon as i will catchup, i will show you.

[kabooooom]

She's not wrong first of all. What do you view the purpose of RVS as? And if RVS is unable to generate discussion then why does it exist and how is it possible to transition out it?

she is. Because just votes doesnt start discussion. the question and accusations made starts the discussion.
for example, if i made any scummy sentence without voting, discussion can be generated from it.
on the other hand, simply voting each other doesnt do any good, unless someone is accused of something.

Are you claiming Slayer's gambit? Otherwise you didn't get us out of RVS, Phallacy (and Stupendous man to a lesser extent) did.

slayer's gambit?

and yes, you are right. Phallacy and stupendiousman get us out of rvs, BUT through me. if i would have just voted random player, it would have never happened. now im not saying that i knew that would happen. but because i took part in rvs, in my own way, we got out of rvs.

[kabooooom]

im not sure you guys are getting my point.
let me take you to where it started.
bins basically was saying that i should not vote mod and just vote player, how everyone does.
but even in rvs, there has to be enough difference to be able to accuse someone of something. just simply voting each other doesnt get the game going. there is no pressure in rvs vote, you cant accuse someone of doing rvs vote. there has to be something different in rvs too.

[kabooooom]

She's not wrong first of all. What do you view the purpose of RVS as? And if RVS is unable to generate discussion then why does it exist and how is it possible to transition out it?

she is. Because just votes doesnt start discussion. the question and accusations made starts the discussion.
for example, if i made any scummy sentence without voting, discussion can be generated from it.
on the other hand, simply voting each other doesnt do any good, unless someone is accused of something.

You didn't answer my questions.

Stop skating round the issue

im not. Purpose of rvs is to get game going. But that's what i said. I just added that there has to be something different too, which and be questioned or accused! Does this answer your question?

[kabooooom]

No. You didn't answer the second part and you keep repeating that RVS is useless like it's gospel. You started by saying you voted the mod for shits and giggles and that Phallacy is "fake scumhunting" because it didn't matter what you did in RVS because RVS contains no pressure. Bins and Phallacy point out why it does matter what you do in RVS, you call them wrong and bad in return, then when I question you on this you start going on about how you got us of RVS and how there "has to be something different".

You're all over the shop and you've been evasive from the beginning.

So RVS gets the game going, how does it do that if the votes are entirely meaningless? Howw can we transition out of RVS and have things to question if it doesn't matter what we do in it?
Were you or were you not acting scummy to get us out RVS?

Now just answer the questions directly and don't just repeat what you've already said, and don't use the word "Bins" in your reponse because she is irrelevant to your response to those questions.

firstly you need to understand your own questions. You asked me what is purpose of rvs. I said, its to start a game. Your second question was, IF rvs is unable to generate discussion then why does it exist. I never said rvs doesn't generate discussion. I said there should be a different variety of posts in RVs, to be able to start a discussion.

[kabooooom]

er.... I'm not angry that he voted the mod?

I asked a simple question that he's now dodged twice. I'm frustrated by that and find it arrogant, rude, and scummy.

I want to know why he specifically avoided interacting with anyone on the playerlist

after

the game had already begun and the whole joke about voting the mod in confirmation/pregame had run its course. Instead of giving me a direct answer, he makes a flippant half-assed response, and then you jump to his rescue.

Strange indeed.

Still waiting on that answer, kaboom.[/quote]

[kabooooom]

er.... I'm not angry that he voted the mod?

I asked a simple question that he's now dodged twice. I'm frustrated by that and find it arrogant, rude, and scummy.

I want to know why he specifically avoided interacting with anyone on the playerlist

after

the game had already begun and the whole joke about voting the mod in confirmation/pregame had run its course. Instead of giving me a direct answer, he makes a flippant half-assed response, and then you jump to his rescue.

Strange indeed.

Still waiting on that answer, kaboom.

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sorry about this. Im on phone so you might have to wait phallacy.

p-edit: no. I already answered that.

[kabooooom]

So now we've come full circle.

Then what was the purpose of you voting the mod? You've gone from RVS having no value so it doesn't matter, to now trying to rationalise it as "adding variety" to RVS, as if that means anything, whilst still pushing the idea that RVS is pointless. Which one is it? I honestly can't see how you don't flip scum here.

there was no point! It wasn't a slayer gambit!!!

you took a point of a post to a totally different place!!! Read my post #46. What i meant was just voting around doesn't do a shit!! If you want to get out of rvs you actually have to accuse someone of something so then there will be other players view on it! Now if every rvs vote is similar then whom do you accuse if being scum?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
that's what i meant by 'adding variety'.

[kabooooom]

I haven't got time. I will surely post today.

[kabooooom]

I asked a simple question that he's now dodged twice. I'm frustrated by that and find it arrogant, rude, and scummy.

so you find me scummy but dont vote me?! even if its gut based. if you are pressuring someone, and call him scummy then its natural to vote him. The fact that yo forgot to vote me made me believe that your pressure was fake, and was just to show everyone rather then actual scumhunting. This is what i meant be fake scum hunting. but there is more to it.

infact your next post which is my posts response is rude, arrogant and scummy.

there is lot more i want to post. but i dont have time. i will be

v/la till 21

[kabooooom]

@Mod. When is the deadline? It's always been 9 Days, 6 Hours, 26 Minutes from the last vote count.

@kaboom. How LA are you going to be? You've got a ton of pressure on you and you are potentially disappearing till after the deadline.

pressure on me is because i still haven't given detailed reason of why phallacy is scum. Everyone think im accusing on air. Its festival called 'janmasthami' so im out of town. Will be v/la till 21.

[kabooooom]

I don't think it is unmafia sided. I don't really get lynched so easily even as scum :/ and bins unluckily got shot.
and if you make mafia bullet proof, make it one shot.

[kabooooom]

But it was good game, and well played everyone.

[kabooooom]

And thanks for kidding molla