Micro 371: Cult Vengeful (Game Over)

[Maruchan]

VOTE: Maestro

Since I can't be sure he is the same alignment as me this game, and has repeatedly stated that if we were ever of differing alignments he'd rip me a new one and manipulate the shit out of me, this is the only option.

[Maruchan]

yeah, not cult.

vote OkaPoka

NonMC player must go first

although i like this mentality. Maybe tomorrow.

[Maruchan]

VOTE: Maestro

Since I can't be sure he is the same alignment as me this game, and has repeatedly stated that if we were ever of differing alignments he'd rip me a new one and manipulate the shit out of me, this is the only option.

subtle OMGUS - check
attempts at looking paranoid - check

wagon Maru plz

i actually didn't know you were voting me. I've been waiting to post that since I read my role PM

I only realized you were voting me after

[Maruchan]

Maru, so you would trust town M to make the right choice for vengekill? what you are adovocating is essentially a policy lynch, which is alignment independent, and in this game, the first person to get lynched is massively important.

Also, you could be scum and still make the exact same post and have it be completely be true which i find funny, but it also means that post tells me nothing.

unvote

Oka, what is the purpose of that statement? What do you think of this making maestro go after maru now?

Yes. I'd trust Maestro to the ends of the earth, if he was confirmed townie. Unfortunately, I can't confirm his townyness this game like the last time we were both town, so I can't trust him while he is alive. If he is town and gets the vengekill, aight. If he is scum, I'll end up townreading him if he stays alive, I guarantee it. So will everyone really.

[Maruchan]

Maru, so you would trust town M to make the right choice for vengekill? what you are adovocating is essentially a policy lynch, which is alignment independent, and in this game, the first person to get lynched is massively important.

Also, you could be scum and still make the exact same post and have it be completely be true which i find funny, but it also means that post tells me nothing.

unvote

Oka, what is the purpose of that statement? What do you think of this making maestro go after maru now?

EBWODP: and it can't be true as both alignments. I said I can't know if he is of the same alignment as me, as scum, I WOULD know, that he wasn't.

[Maruchan]

Sorry, I just woke up. I kind of like to sleep.

Why did you think you would be leading the town?

[Maruchan]

This week is bad for me guys, I'm working from 4AM until 8-9PM daily, and have duty tomorrow. I'll try to check whenever i get the chance and post if I can, but consider me v/la for the week

[Maruchan]

I'm not worried about Maru. He'll fuck up eventually if he's scum.

QFT

You know I love you Maru, you just don't scare me if you're Scum.

See, but what if I was scum, and didn't get lynched, and then scumified you? THEN would i scare you?

plz say yes plz say yes plz say yes

[Maruchan]

anyways, all this back and forth, I *KINDA* see Oka's point on thinking this is a sheeping game, because of how tight knit the rest of us (and the mod <3 U ROB!!!) are, so I can see why he'd feel comfortable to sit back and watch us duke it out, as either scum or town. I also don't like the building reads based on meta. Specific instances of meta as to what you do in a given situation are ok, but trying to read someone overall primarily off of meta is bad play. People like me have no meta, because I play just as horribly gung-ho as scum and town, and people like M have no meta, because they refuse to set a mold to themselves, and play every game differently.

M's requiring of a prod is weird, I don't think I've ever seen a game where Maestro wasn't avidly active before, and definitely didn't expect to see an inactive M in *THIS* game, but i don't know what's going on in his real life right now, so that has no alignment tells in it whatsoever, it's just not-Maestro style play.


I've never really played a game with dav where I *TRIED* to get a read on him, or have been alive with him for more than a week, so I have no game-experience with him. He does seem to be filling and parroting quite a bit though, not sure if that is the usual or unique to this game though.

Klaz, I don't honestly think I've ever played with before, and he seems to be actively hunting scum, and genuinely questioning oka.



Theory question regarding the setup, is lynching your towniest town read as good a lynch as lynching your scummiest scum in this instance, because of the venge-vig, or is lynching a town read bad irregardless of the setup?

[Maruchan]

That is the most stupid question people ever ask and i hate it when people ask it.,

before you say that reaction is awkward and obvscum, go read some of my past games and search for that question. I have answered this same way as both town and scum, becasue as any alignment, that question is dumb as fuck

(yes, I'm town. And my answer matches every other player, who will say they are town)


@M i wasn't making a big deal of your inactivity, i specifically said that it doesn't seem like something you'd do as any alignment, and could very well be due to outside influences.

[Maruchan]

And yet you've only made mention of your scumread on Oka. Assuming the Maru Bullet is a Policy Bullet and not a Scumread Bullet therefore.

[Maruchan]

Because I am currently at work. On watch. Sitting at a computer. I am busy all this week with military shit, go read the "we hate our jobs" thread for specific details. I am working 16 hour days.

[Maruchan]

There, I made it all official lyke. I set my V/LA until the end of next week since I will be busy all of this week, and all of next week, and can not guarantee my access to a computer

[Maruchan]

A lot of what I do stays the same irregardless or alignment. I just finished telling oka meta doesn't work on people like you and me, because my meta is the same as any alignment, I'm a derp as any alignment. And you because you can change your meta for every game

[Maruchan]

I changed my mind, if my unvote didn't tell you as much.
More interesting to watch what's happening RE: Klaz vs. Dav.

And I don't want Maruchan just doing nothing with his vote parked on me.

I like my vote where it is. If you're scum, I need to get rid of you day 1, because you won't scum me, and you'll be able to manipulate me. If you're town, I trust your shot.

[Maruchan]

Maestro is really strong at manipulating, especially within this group if you're dead

[Maruchan]

You can ask all players in this game (and if the mod weren't impartial the mod as well) for confirmation that Maestro himself has said if he and i were of differing alignments, he'd totally own me.

[Maruchan]

That makes 0 sense Oka. And I don't understand Klaz's "because it's convenient" comment. That makes 0 sense also. I mean like, really? Someone is scum, because it's convenient?

[Maruchan]

everything. "I think you are scum but are you town?" I MEAN REALLY

[Maruchan]

im weighing whether if oka is cult or just the odd man out of the group.

At this point, I honestly think it could be both. Now I'm just debating with myself wither or not M is the more necessary lynch if Oka did flip town.

If we could get rid of them both and STILL have our venge shot, that would be great, but that doesn't work.

[Maruchan]

Here's the problem. I don't know if I trust Oka with a venge shot IF he flips town.

I'm fairly certain either you or Oka is scum, as I dont think Klaz would go out of his way to look this town.

I definitely wouldn't trust a vengeshot from oka if he was town. Part of the reason I am still voting M.

[Maruchan]

Well fuck. Bye Maestro.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: OkaPoka

I swear to god if he is town I'm going to facedesk so hard that he gets the gun.

[Maruchan]

ProHawk, my reasons were garbage, to an outsider. To someone from our group, my reasons for voting M were clearly obvious, and fully reasonable (from a Maru)

[Maruchan]

I don't see your premise there dav. How is this game different enough from normal mafia in lylo, that OMGUS - scum-tell?

[Maruchan]

I don't see your premise there dav. How is this game different enough from normal mafia in lylo, that OMGUS - scum-tell?

Did you not read anything I just wrote?

yes, and i replied with I did not see any difference between this game and a normal mafia game where there is only one mafia left alive, and in the second instance, OMGUS isn't a scumtell, so why is it here? It seems like you're trying to fabricate reasons Oka is scummy, when he is plenty scummy on hid own without your fabricated scummieness

[Maruchan]

Please point to where I ever said dav was scum.

[Maruchan]

My reads

TOWN

OkaPoka, I know I am town.

NULL

Prohawk, his motivations of attacking Maru can go either way. Klazam is reasonable but can go either way.

Leaning a Bit Scum

Maruchan due to his wanting to lynch Maestro thingy and not actively scumhunting, last few posts negate that a bit. And Fuzzy, since gut. And he is wrong about wifom

protip Oka, you don't include yourself in a reads list. everyone knows that read. you either know you are town or you will pretend you know you are town.

@Prohawk, I'm honestly null on dav. I can see the scumread on him, as well as see towny things he has done. I think klaz is town, because he's just playing to his town Klaz. Oka is lkely scum, and you I have no read on because i pretty much ignored anything that came out of M's mouth and you haven't done anything to stand out yet.

[Maruchan]

I can make a case later for yo uif a case is what you want, I am real good at wallposts.
Right this second, I just got home from a workday that I left for 63 hours ago and want to sleep in my own bed. Don't expect a wallpost until tomorrow night at the earliest.

[Maruchan]

I fakeclaimed my cards in a greatest idea, where I KNEW my scum partner had a method of busting fake fakeclaims, and I *STILL* fake fakeclaimed, even though he had already TOLD me the method, and was only saved by my partner's badassedness at manipulating THIS game's mod


Hint: my partner was M

[Maruchan]

<3 u Rob!

[Maruchan]

(m= Maestro)

[Maruchan]

1) I hate Maru’s meta. It allows him to get away with being completely anti-town in scum games because he’s practically playing against wincon in town games. smh

this made me lol so hard.

It wouldn't have worked as well as it did this game if not for all of the minecrafters, as seen once ProHawk replaced in.

[Maruchan]

I recruited prohawk because i was originally going to recruit M, and i figured oka wouldnt shoot him, so it was safest to keep with my path