Open 563 - Jungle Republic (Night 5~)

[Wickedestjr]

Desperado is now at L-1.

[Desperado]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Desperado

[Desperado]

I thought it was Bins

[Riddleton]

Darn it.

[Mist7676]

Wonderful timing for me to happen to be checking the thread! I was going to modkill Splashcloud before the day ended, but this day was too fast for that to be fair.

So let's find out! Who did you lynch?

Desperado was a...

Spoiler:

Werewolf!

Congratulations town! 1 more werewolf, and 2 more mafia to go!

The night will end in (expired on 2014-08-23 01:41:10).

Final Vote Count:

Desperado

(5) - Not_Mafia, Bins, Riddleton, Desperado, Wickedestjr

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

[Mist7676]

Klick replaces Splashcloud, effective immediatly. Thank you everyone for putting up with the high number of replacements, and I really hope you are enjoying the game!

[Mist7676]

Good morning, good natured folks. I mean, isn't it nice to know we have one less human eater patrolling our streets at night? Well, I hope you didn't forget you still have another to kill, and the evil band of mafia! But for now, let's check up on that ominous dead body.

Wickedjesterjr was mauled to death. He was a

Spoiler:

A

Seer

Day 4 has begun.

(expired on 2014-09-07 00:35:16)

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch

[Riddleton]

We're in MyLo so we need to kill a mafioso today.

VOTE: Fuzzy

[Riddleton]

Or maybe not. WW would kill fuzzy to prevent a win.

Will revisit this one later with a plan and some rereads.

[Klick]

Hello! Egoposting here. This weekend's been busy, so hopefully I'll have something nice up tonight.

[Bins]

Man let me work this out in my head
It's currently 1v2v3

A) Lynch ww, we're in 5p lylo (2v3)
B) Lynch scum, we lose either a strong town/whoever ww thinks is the last mafia
(1v1v2) - lynch mafia, and ww wins during the night, lynch WW, and 3p lylo
(1v3) - mylo, best to no lynch idk, then 3p lylo

Or if we mislynch, ww will take out mafia
(1v1v2)
Or not and mafia will win
(1v2v1)

I have no idea but in my head trying to take out the WW makes more sense
Will do a reread of last two days

[Bins]

But actually, if I understand correctly, WW can now only win if it's (1v1) v a town

WW will probably always try to kill mafia, so those scenarios where mafia is still alive is where ww failed killing the last scum
Idk I'd rather have this in towns hands, rather than the WW, ofc


Man I don't even know if I'm making sense

[Paschendale]

Well, maybe I'll actually get to contribute something. I'll reread and post some thoughts this evening.

[Not_Mafia]

Lynching Wolf is ideal, lynching Fuzzy (99% mafia) is the safe option, not sure which road I want to go down yet, will have to see how confident I am in narrowing the wolf down

[Riddleton]

I would feel safer lynching Fuzzy. Mafia are the biggest threat at the moment as they outnumber WWs. We can worry about finding the last WW tomorrow.

[Not_Mafia]

V/LA for the next few days due to personal reasons. This is LA not V but I can't tell how active I'll be exactly

[Paschendale]

Pasch's thoughts:

-Shaded/Titus Slot-

Shaded basically did nothing. His vote on me was based on my conflict with BJC, which now looks very much like BJC was simply attacking his detractors.

Titus, meanwhile, called me obvious scum, but lightly defended Maruchan. Then he turns on that slot as soon as Splashcloud replaces in. Titus calls him obvious scum as well. It doesn't seem like Titus went in for a lot of subtlety, so it is very likely that what is now Klick's slot is not mafia. Then he focuses on Fuzzy. This again doesn't look like faked interaction. Fuzzy is unlikely mafia.

@N_M and Riddleton: Why are you two so convinced that Fuzzy is mafia? Do you think he and Titus were faking their interaction? Could Fuzzy be a WW instead?

-Day 2 lynch-

A significant portion of this wagon has flipped. The last vote was town, and before that was a WW. I obviously know my own alignment, and piecing together the motivations of the first three votes is a bit trickier. What interests me is the counterwagon.

Desperado had on him a townie, the seer, and Bins. Is this Bins casting a vote on a buddy that is unlikely to go a lynch? Actually, probably not. It doesn't look like it. Rethinking WW read on Bins.

-Desperado Slot-

Desperado went hard on the Bulge wagon. In fact, up until his claim, he basically had no reads on anyone besides Bulge. Damn, that was useless. Of interest, however, is his final shot. Was it an attempt to falsely clear Bins, or did he genuinely think that she was the seer? How does she end up in the middle of so much controversy?

-Fuzzy Slot-

Initial list contains scum vibe on seer and scumread on Desperado. The others are less interesting. Fuzzy's early suspicions, especially of me, look genuine. His reasons for voting Bulge so strongly early on match a lot of other players, but they weren't bad reasons. That scum are scumhunting too makes truly false reads somewhat rare, and likely only strongly concentrated around protecting teammates.

I really don't see scum in Fuzzy's posts. The case definitely remains to be made. He shares his thoughts, and even his reads that have been proven wrong look genuine and well formed. But then again, a lot of them ARE wrong. Town often mislynch. I don't see why scum hunting werewolves or werewolves hunting scum would be any different. There is almost a balanced tone about Fuzzy, like he's trying intentionally to be as moderate as possible. He didn't come down hard on the Desperado/Wicked issue, and so could be protecting Desperado. It's not a great case, but it's possible. Fuzzy could be a ww.

I do not think that Fuzzy or Klick are mafia.

-Bins Slot-

Ah, my old friend Bins. Not in the sense that we've played together before. More in the sense that I've been trying to get her lynched the whole game.

I've written and erased this section several times. I've found her to be town, mafia, and werewolf. I really don't know what to make of her play at all. The lack of a townread with so much content really makes me think that she's scum in some way, but I honestly do not know which team she's playing for. With so many options, I don't want to lynch her today.

These are some thoughts. I definitely want to hear why people suspect Fuzzy so strongly.

[Bins]

What about Not_Mafia?

After a reread, I honestly think Not_Mafia is WW. Actually, I'm pretty convinced, but I won't push him yet because of his personal V/LA. It's mostly PoE + he used the "I'm not that stupid as scum" logic + his position on the Bulge wagon + his early game play + the whole Wicked interaction. I don't know why Wicked just shrugged it off. I never suspected it before, but since Desp flipped WW, I'm seeing it now.

I think Splash/Klick is town because of Desp's investigate claim on him and Titus/him interaction.

I'll explore who I think is the mafia team.

I get bad vibes from Riddleton, but that's all. He may be mafia, I SERIOUSLY doubt WW.

I'm was reading Fuzzy for his relationship with Titus and his hammer later on. I thought he was playing trolly because he knew town didn't want to lynch him, so I thought he had accepted the conf scum label. But his reaction to my read on him definitely wasn't one I was expecting. I'm less confident with the read then I was before, which is why I'm thinking lynch Not_Mafia.

You say you don't know where to place me, Pasch, I don't know where to place you.

[Bins]

We're in MyLo so we need to kill a mafioso today.

VOTE: Fuzzy

Also, if Fuzzy isn't actually Mafia, I would look at this.

[fuzzybutternut]

Alright, so, despite inherent WIFOM, I've been looking at Klick (shaded) as possible WW, but I haven't really found anything from the slot that really speaks WW to me. The way Desperado tunneled on the slot right around his death is odd and I can't really make anything out of it. Could Klick be WW, I see no reason to rule that out.

Riddletons latest post kind of worries me a bit. Lynching someone other than WW today gives them another NK, meaning tomorrow it would be a 1v1v2, assuming we lynched mafia today and they didn't kill the other tonight. I'd feel a hell of a lot safer going into tomorrow knowing there are no more WWs and that town have the advantage.

[Bins]

He shares his thoughts, and even his reads that have been proven wrong look genuine and well formed. But then again, a lot of them ARE wrong. Town often mislynch. I don't see why scum hunting werewolves or werewolves hunting scum would be any different. There is almost a balanced tone about Fuzzy, like he's trying intentionally to be as moderate as possible. He didn't come down hard on the Desperado/Wicked issue, and so could be protecting Desperado. It's not a great case, but it's possible.

Fuzzy could be a ww.

Nope.

[Bins]

Just because I'm not in the mood for being cheeky:

Vote: Desperado

I'm the seer, you are not.

-fuzzy is not a werewolf.
-Unsight is not a werewolf.

[Riddleton]

Fuzzy is pretty much certain mafia and the safest option for a lynch.

[Riddleton]

I like Fuzzy + Pasch as mafia, plus Not_mafia as WW.

[Bins]

I'd just rather not have a kill I can't control.