In post 3534, shaddowez wrote:Pere - Do you not believe the mason claim? I'm going to guess not since you have the largest wagon right now, and your vote is the sole vote on one of the possible masons. Could you please explain why?
Well, where to start....
Why claim it now, when there is not benefit to town?
Plus, Marquis is scum as all get-out.
Psyche has not confirmed it. The post you think about quoting Pysche where they did confirm it is about as dodgy as all get-out.
Let's see why.
Psyche scum- Marquis town-
Psyche could be wary of Marquis trying to trick him. If he says yes, does Marquis close the trap on him and get him lynched? But, Marquis hasn't been actually scumhunting, so what's Psyche afraid of? Don;t think this is the current siutaiton.Psyche town- Marquis town
- Psyche could be wary of Marquis trying to trick him. But, it seems town Psyche would use this opportunity to determine if Marquis is scum trying to trick him, or town trying to trick scum. Pscyhe instead continues to demur to Marquis, while not interacting with him (or anyone else). Marquis in turn is either really sure on Psyche alignment (why, FGS?), or is trying to determine his alignment. Since I see no Marquis Psyche interaction, I have a hard time believing this scenario.Psyche town- Marquis scum
- Marquis picked Pscyhe as a pliable human shield who would not counterclaim him because.....???? Psyche, unsure of Marquis alignment, would try to determine Marquis alignment through any sort of interaction, to either out the fakeclaim, or to find himself a strong townread (however incorrect it may be). However, Psyche is not doing that. And Marquis is making no pretense of interacting with Psyche.Psyche scum- Marquis scum
- Marquis on a whim figured he'd fish the fakeclaim out there to see what sort of traction/reaction it would get. If it derailed the Psyche push (it did), then all the better. Psyche, not wanting to out 2 scummembers at once, does as much as possible to leave the confirmation open-ended and ambiguous. This gives some wriggle room for the other should one be lynched/stabbed. This requires Psyche soft-confirming it, and deferring it to Marquis, allowing plausible deniability (claiming one of the 2 scenarios above) should Marquis die. Marquis in turn is minimizing involving Psyche, and will claim reactiontest when Psyche flips scum. Based on both players current bahvoirs, I strongly suspect this one.So, yeah, neighbor-masons?
