Robbery! At The Casino (Game Over)

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We /confirm

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Vote: Desp

Sup bitch, you dealing off the bottom of the deck again?

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Desp, can you name a town game of yours where you don't rvs me?

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I think it does, and you should know why I am asking. I'm not saying that it is a 100% tell, but the only game I can remember us being in together where you didn't rvs me was where you were scum. Or at least thats how I remember it, and i'm being lazy about checking out that game.

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We shouldn't be in RVs, we had scum out themselves by pretending to be town, literally every time I have seen someone do it, its been scum.

Vote prolapse

Examples?

You could also argue that he was tryharding town to see what scum would see low hanging fruit ripe for the picking. Do you really see scum being that brazen with their schtick?

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"Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game"


Rofl

-sonic

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Also, Double, it seems like you RVSed someone who came up scummy to you, and then Titus corroborated the feeling. Is that true, or was Egg purely random?

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I'm running what I like to call the gambit at work right now. Close, mid, open. I should be around tomorrow night though.

Til then

Unvote

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We shouldn't be in RVs, we had scum out themselves by pretending to be town, literally every time I have seen someone do it, its been scum.
Vote prolapse

Examples?
You could also argue that he was tryharding town to see what scum would see low hanging fruit ripe for the picking. Do you really see scum being that brazen with their schtick?

Not sure if any games here had that, and it would take forever to comb through all the games I have played/read

So you just want us to believe you on this one without anything to back it up with. Heard. What if I told you that I have been in games where I say something along the lines of tryhard town and have gotten accused of being scum for it when I actually was town? Would I be able to just say that and expect people to believe me?

BBT: explain to me how his confirmation post was in any way wierd?

Too much information. Felt like he was trying hard to appear town.
It also felt like a buddying post with the joke on the end.

Who was he trying to buddy?

Are you going to move your vote back to Prolapsed? If not why and what are your reads so far?

Seriously? Your first question is meh, your second question is awful.
Are you genuinely asking for reads on p4 when pretty much nothing of note has happened yet (bar the last 10 posts or so)

You don’t seem to have a problem with Becks read on Prolapse from post #17, but you take umbrage with someone looking for preliminary reads on page 4? Seems fishy, and that is saying something coming from me.

This is going nowhere. I've been waiting for a day for a reason to post and I got nothing.
Random vote will stick where it is till I see a good reason to move it

I hate this post. It does nothing, says nothing, and is nothing. Complaining about nothing going on, while doing nothing, and telling us that you aren’t moving your vote unless you see a reason to move it, that’s awesome. Thanks for showing up.

Your last two 'reads' on Aronis and Egg prove my point of why asking for reads at this stage is an awful question.
You're going to come up with an awful lot of null reads.

This may be true, but it can be useful later on when we have some flips. Information is never, I will repeat NEVER, a bad thing which is what it seems like you are trying to imply.

Double Trouble

- I don’t even know what to think about #125/126. The labeling of the vote as random, the idea that finding scum during day 1 is hard, the view on Egg, and calling Doubles vote random when you both have reasons for the vote all rub me the wrong way. A random vote is just that, random. I even ask later on for Double to explain and they nodded at me when I asked two separate questions, explaining jack shit.

SO. greyfoxxx seems really weird to me atm. Naming reads so quickly is strange, useless, and no offense, but stupid. a+ for effort though!

God I wish I had known that you were going to be in the game before we signed up for it. If we get nothing going today I would love for you to be a policy lynch.

RVS is antitown as a whole. So fishing reactions to give us something to talk about is protown.

Hahahaha. You're joking right? RVS is the most protown phase of the game.

How is it the most protown phase?

I'd heard you were a dick, but this, wow.

Now I can truly and honestly say I experienced playing in a Majiffy game! One more thing off my bucket list! andit's a good thing, bc this could be his last modded game ever.

Do you have anything else that you would like to talk about that would prevent you from providing anything worthwhile?

SORRY TO INTERRUPT THIS CATCH UP POST, BUT WE HAVE A LATE BREAKING STORY:
Egg will not be touched today. Anyone who tries will surely face some wrath. Seriously, why the fuck would anyone think that this is where we should be applying pressure right now?

Egg is scum according to this head. Jumping on someone for explaining their post after being voted for it is not likely to come from town. Double

agreed enough to random vote.

~Trouble

The bolded doesn't seem to match up with your last post.

It doesn't seem to but you missed the RL conversations.
We discussed how we'd enter into the thread and what our thoughts were.
This being my first hydra sis wanted to ease me into it.
I didn't know so I RVS'd and she had her list.
Egg was at the top of her list and Egg came up in my RVS.
We just disconnected on who was posting.
-- Double

Is it just me or do the posts from this hydra never seem to match up with previous ones? If they discussed how they would come into the thread why did there seem to be a little dissonance in their vote? One says its random, the other says that they both saw the same thing to justify their vote. It can’t be both here. And I guess I just don’t understand how you guys work as a hydra. When I play with my brother the only time that we really talk a lot about the game is when we are scum, because the planning is necessary. When we play as town together we just do whatever the fuck we want because we are going to come off town as fuck, and if we get heat for it we deal with it.

One of these days I am going to get around to documenting people who vote without any reasoning along with wagons to see if there is a pattern. Even though I am not liking DT, I hate the naked votes from shos and BBT.

And we hit a record...17 games in a row someone does a day one train...

I've yet to have a forum scum game ever. New nickname: Eternal Townie. *sigh*

-- Double
Off topic: Avatar is up.

Italics- Nice AtE there, man we get run up all the time and town is always hurt by it, you guys don’t want that to happen here do you?
Bold- This is tryhard town if I have ever seen it.

doot doot do doot doot doot… BREAKING IN ONCE AGAIN WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT:
Egg is not going to be lynched today. Stop pushing his lynch.

Vote Double Trouble

Why would Titus want to lurk?

This is a really really really good point. Titus rarely, if ever lurks. Usually she is one of the most active people in game.
VOTE: DoubleTrouble

Explaining that question would require claiming. It would make sense for us to lurk.
-- Double Trouble

This is a new one even for me. Explaining why you would lurk would require claiming? Da fuq.

@Ace

post #203 is horrible. Like epically bad. Think long and hard about what he is doing and why you shouldn’t be voting him here. If you don’t get it I would be more than glad to explain it to you in words that would be easier for you to grasp.

I should also note I don't like geraint's/Gray's posting styles, it will make them seem much busier/more active in the activity overview later in the game.
Gray could have done all his reads in one post and geraint could have got all of his recent posts into one post as well.

This post. I do math to find the likely estimated posts for a breakdown. That way if people spam or troll or break reads into a lot of posts it won't count to me. But yeah a direct examination of the breakdown won't catch it. So I just make a note and subtract

Are you

high?

WTF does this even MEAN? I mean, I get the words, and the general sense of structure in the sentences, but the whole idea is just fucking bizarre.
Beck, this is content.

Barely.

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Not lynching:
Shos, Grey, Egg and Dr. Pants

Would be ok with lynching:
Ace, Beck, BBT

Unsure of:
Pro, Gerain, DT, Desp

Please someone kill:
Aronis

Vote Ace

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Yeah, sorry about that shos. It had to happen though.

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hello i am in the game


- sonic

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I think metal went lava on me, I haven't seen anything from him for awhile in our qt. I'll be here later today.

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BBT and Shos are definitely the best lynches for today. While Aronis doesn't look great either, the fact that everyone piled onto him specifically means he's likely not scum.

Hi Pants;

I've explained every one of my votes. If you have issue with them, take me up on it. Otherwise, stop pushing reasons for why I'm scum that have already been explained and are no longer valid.

I think metal went lava on me, I haven't seen anything from him for awhile in our qt. I'll be here later today.

You have an awfully low post-count, especially for a hydra. Is there a reason that neither of you have been posting?

Aronis, can you re-write 381 please. You're either grossly misunderstanding my explanations or you're misrepresenting me. I would like another post to make clear which one it is.

First, did something change on site meta where post count means anything? We may be light on actual numbers of posts but what we have contributed has been mostly content, or attempts at content. In other words what we have posted is worth more than a lot of fluff.

Second, are you retarded? You quite the post where I said my partner has gone MIA on me. And if you looked back at my iso you'd see that work has been kicking my ass lately. I guess that would be too much leg work for you though.

I will be looking at you later today to see if you are dumb town who deserves my pity or shitty scum who deserves my rope.

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Pick up, and I was doing so well.

I disagree that my activity is indicative of anything. If you look at any of my games, town or scum, you'll see that there are periods where my activity wanes then gets more intense. It usually happens when I find something to dig my teeth into.

I never said that I couldn't post because my partner isn't around, you asked why our count was low, I informed you that my partner has gone missing and that I am busy at work. When I am able I provide content. Sorry for being a little hyperbolic about my posts so far, I didn't realize that you would be looking at my confirmation post as something that I should have provided content in or posts that were quite obviously not mine. I should have been more clear, knowing how literal you will take things I say from now on I will make sure to say what I mean. I don’t necessarily consider dissonance a scumtell, it would really depend on what the subject was that they disagreed on. I think that people can view things through a different lense depending on their experiences and what they know to be true. I think it would also depend on how often the hydra was dissenting. If it is a one time thing then no not indicative, if they are disagreeing on literally every read and line of inquiry then it becomes much more suspect. Why do you ask BBT?

Why is BBT the best of the available options?

Why are you not more concerned about him wanting you dead most?

Saving this for later.

Why is BBT the best of the available options?

Why are you not more concerned about him wanting you dead most?

This is probably one of the dumbest questions anyone has ever asked me.

Why?

I told people I was dumb at this game...

Thank god I didn’t have to wait long for that one.

If you are town, then you should never want to be dead.

Did I miss where Desp said he wanted to die? And there is nothing more glorious and honorable than to fall in battle so that your side will carry the day. There have been games where I actually wanted to die as town because it would show everyone how wrong they have been on their reads and would help narrow down who scum actually was.

VOTE: aronis
Unlike pants. I care if we nolynch and know this will suck.

What do you see being learned from Aroflip?

VOTE: shos

Mod: Please treat our vote as proxied over to Dr. Pants until deadline.

I did this in the last game was in and caught so much shit for it. Why Pants?

Should I vote shos?

I doubt I'll have time to get on be4 dl tomorrow.

Who are you asking and why? Do you have a scum read on shos or is it just a deadline compromise because you obviously won’t vote yourself? At this point I would say no to a shos lynch. Pants I am becoming more ok with based off the information given and his stance on lo lynching.

Vote: Dr. Pants

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And here I thought he died because he claimed an investigative power role. Silly me. Our night was not fruit bearing, so I look forward to speaking with Metal about his thoughts so far.

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Do I detect a shit tone there, or am I just sensitive because of our interactions yesterday?

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Hold up. So you saw Desp visit Egg when no one else did?

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Aronis, I really hope that was facetiousness.

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^^ shos is correct. can we lych aronis now?

VOTE: aronis

I find it quite amusing that people go after me for doing the same exact thing they are doing.

Could you explain what you meant by this a little more. I want to make sure you are saying what you are actually saying before I explain why it is not correct.

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Where is the certainty on Desp coming from? You ran a gambit that provided nothing, and instead of backing away from your target you are doubling down and going for broke.

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Beck, are you fucking dense? DT already went down the road that you are going down and came to the correct conclusion, that they misread what I wrote fitting what they were looking for.

My question may not have been formed in the best way, so I'll rephrase so you can understand it better. I asked if they saw Desp visit Egg when no one else did. What that means is "You (DT) are claiming to have watched Egg last night. You say that you have a guilty (basically) on Desp as a result. So I want to clarify that you saw Desp and no one else visit Egg last night." Does that make it easier for you to understand.

Jesus, in every game I play as town I either get accused of being the most manipulative scum player ever or a fucking moron.

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Its obvious what I said, even though the person who thought they "got me" came out and said that they misread it? Its obvious that they were trying to claim a guilty on Desp and I wanted to make sure there was no room for error before I placed a vote? Its obvious that they were running a gambit where in the end no one was seen, especially not Desp? What really is obvious is that you are looking more and more desperate to find someone to push for a lynch. Yesterday it was Pro for seeming "fake townie" and today it is me for a "slip." This push is bad and coming on the heels of yesterdays bad push it looks even worse. By all means though, stay strong there brother. Park your vote on a townie if you feel like that is where it is best.

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So I want to clarify that you saw Desp and no one else visit Egg last night."

Also since this is what you say you meant.

town wouldn't ask this question IMO.

Town wouldn't ask if a single person visited the person who died? Why the fuck would they not? If more than one person visited Egg then I would ask how DT could be so sure that Desp made the kill. Keep pushing this angle though, its making the game interesting at least.

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If I was scum and knew that Desp was town, why wouldnt I just vote Desp and point a finger at him yelling "SCUM!!!"

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So asking for clarification before voting would be scummy to you, and voting for him without asking is scummy looking. I guess I should have just lurked the fuck out of the thread and waited, right?

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Good luck convincing enough people to get that done. In the meantime tell me why you backed off Pro today.

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At what point would it cross your mind that you are wrong about your reads? I'm not saying that you have to admit you are wrong right now, because I would not do that if I saw something I thought was scummy, but you have multiple people telling you that you are off. We can't all be scum trying to get you off my trail, so some of the people defending me would have to be town. Do you normally tunnel this hard as town? Can you show me where you got a read off a confirmation post, stuck with it throughout the game and then lynched scum as a result?

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I think that you are grossly overestimating your ability to find scum. The fact that you can't give examples of your prowess should tell you that you have good chance of being wrong. I mean hell, your 90-100% certainty is already going to take a hit when I flip town.

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And a flip is all that would change your mind? If someone came out and claimed they had an inno on me what would you say, they are my scum buddy defending me?

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Fish^


Hi I am sonic and saw fish last post so I just decided to hop by and WOW is somebody trying to lynch our slot? AND the guy is saying he is 100% right oh jolly


Nope our slot is town, you are not 100% right (I am though, lol), beck you're wrong and (unless you're scum and I don't know about that) you can stop your push unless you want to ruin your (nonexistent) record


-sonic



-> sorry fish I haven't been vested in this game at all

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Ok fish that should give you some space, to do your thing, sorry that I haven't been here at all it's been really busy and I'm quite apathetic


Love you bro


Hope whatever I did helps

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I think its hilarious your hydra partner has to come rescue you. Now I'm more sure than I already was

Did you just break the ceiling and find a level of more assuredness than 100%. You know what, Metal, we have to give in to this guy. He is now more than 100% sure that we are scum, and he would know because he has been around for so long and has played so many games with us to know that we are scum with more than 100% certainty.

Beck, you do know how hydras work right? We both post from the same account, talk to each other about the game, and play together. Yet you find something scummy in the other half of our little duo posting when we are right in the middle of what is currently going on. You sir are the donkey at the table trying to push around a huge stack bluffing the whole way. Well, I will tell you this, we have the nuts and you are going to lose if you call us on it.

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No worries Metal, I got this shit. Do your thing mang, just pop into the QT every once in awhile and let me know you are alive.

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Ok bro, gotcha

I posted 1 last message in our QT yea

Thanks for carrying, wish ya all the best. Crush those bumbling scum

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Beck, you do know how hydras work right? We both post from the same account, talk to each other about the game, and play together. Yet you find something scummy in the other half of our little duo posting when we are right in the middle of what is currently going on. You sir are the donkey at the table trying to push around a huge stack bluffing the whole way. Well, I will tell you this, we have the nuts and you are going to lose if you call us on it.

Robbery at the fking casino. Hahaha

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Only desperate people have to rely on their accomplishments in another game(s) and think it means jack shit this game.

most of my games are way old, my play has changed drastically. But I'm always head strong and think I'm right. This time I know 100% I'm right about 1, and 90+% about the other 2

You know first hand my ability to convince people isn't good cause I handed town scum on a platter and he never got lynched and survived and won. So I'm kinda stuck in no mans land unwilling yo compromise and upset people can't see obvscum right in front of them.

you are a funny guy.

Plus why woud any town player stop scum hunting because somebody called them scum?

yeah anyway, i think you are giving my partner problems and are wasting his valuable attention that can be better spent on

real scumhunting

instead of funny trolls like yourself, so if you could please excuse us, we have

real scum to find

, thank you very much

No worries Metal, I got this shit. Do your thing mang, just pop into the QT every once in awhile and let me know you are alive.

Town players ignore those accusations cause they know they aren't true...

okay, so my partner already said, that he can handle it, he doesn't give a rat's ass about your accusations, its just me,


so yeah, my job is done, i'll go back into hiding and cheer formerfish with moral support and stuff. and play with him in the other games.

You got this, man.


*i wont reply to this thread regarding this issue anymore so maybe i'll hop in once in a while but thats about it*

-sonic

me.


okay beck, how about a nice offer. why dont you be in-thread masons with Formerfish? would be more helpful and cooperative than whatever is going on right now, peace?

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And here I thought he died because he claimed an investigative power role. Silly me. Our night was not fruit bearing, so I look forward to speaking with Metal about his thoughts so far.

oh yea, bro, i just saw this, cause beck quoted it.

i havent been catching up on the game so i dont really have much helpful thoughts, sorry. just giving you some room here since i hopped in and someone with "(100% reads accuracy)" was giving ya trouble

-sonic

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I'm not bragging about my accomplishments like you did, why you would quote all those and imply I was i kind of confusing

ok whatever go make nice with fishy i promise you he is a cool guy

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are you offended by "troll"? oh man, i am so sorry!

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Perfect Chaos, can you please put your name on the bottom of your post so I know if it's Fish or MS posting.

I do agree with what Beck is saying. PB's confirmation post felt all kinds of wrong, but so does Shos' play so far as well.

ATM, I find Shos' recent posting to be scummier than PB's confirmation post, so that's where I'm at.

It has been always been fish I haven't posted yet

Lol jiffy can you update the title it's not pregame

Oh it has come to this


In the name of my best town performance medal

<<<<<

I order you to stop and go look for someone else

I think my point was to get you to buzz off so my nice partner can actually focus on his scum hunting

I dunno, could be wrong though,

Only desperate people have to rely on their accomplishments in another game(s) and think it means jack shit this game.

most of my games are way old, my play has changed drastically. But I'm always head strong and think I'm right. This time I know 100% I'm right about 1, and 90+% about the other 2

You know first hand my ability to convince people isn't good cause I handed town scum on a platter and he never got lynched and survived and won. So I'm kinda stuck in no mans land unwilling yo compromise and upset people can't see obvscum right in front of them.

you are a funny guy.

Plus why woud any town player stop scum hunting because somebody called them scum?

yeah anyway, i think you are giving my partner problems and are wasting his valuable attention that can be better spent on

real scumhunting

instead of funny trolls like yourself, so if you could please excuse us, we have

real scum to find

, thank you very much

No worries Metal, I got this shit. Do your thing mang, just pop into the QT every once in awhile and let me know you are alive.

Town players ignore those accusations cause they know they aren't true...

okay, so my partner already said, that he can handle it, he doesn't give a rat's ass about your accusations, its just me,


so yeah, my job is done, i'll go back into hiding and cheer formerfish with moral support and stuff. and play with him in the other games.

You got this, man.


*i wont reply to this thread regarding this issue anymore so maybe i'll hop in once in a while but thats about it*

-sonic

sure go ahead

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Oh it has come to this


In the name of my best town performance medal

<<<<<

I order you to stop and go look for someone else

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You know first hand my ability to convince people isn't good cause I handed town scum on a platter and he never got lynched and survived and won. So I'm kinda stuck in no mans land unwilling yo compromise and upset people can't see obvscum right in front of them.

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Beck, can you link me to some games where you have had perfect reads please? Just want to make sure that you consistently do this be4 sheeping.

When one flips town I'll concede my read on that player was wrong.

But see it's not just that slip why I think you are scum, the slip is obvious as fuck but people want to over complicate things, they think it's too easy to be a slip. Its other things too.

P.edit - most of my games are way old, my play has changed drastically. But I'm always head strong and think I'm right. This time I know 100% I'm right about 1, and 90+% about the other 2

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All 3 are scum, if people sheep me this will be the easiest game ever.

Sure I can't convince people I'm right about any of you and you are very lucky.

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it means that the vote was not honest, it was there for a purpose, and you saw it.

Then this is just crappy. Why on earth would someone townie put in a deliberately confusing vote? All it is going to do is draw attention to you.
VOTE: shos

You been on site since 2006 and you seriously making that post?

yeaaah i cant find any more. oh well.

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anyway im going to study organic chemistry so yeah thats the end of this discussion. my slot is town and you are going to not be a nuisance to formerfish anymore. that is clear? good.

even if you are scum trying to tunnel me this is not a good place to go. i do have the power to get your lynched all i need to do is to press the big red button.

lay off my partner. no "100% confidence" for you. im turning the dial down to 0%.

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hard full stop right here

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I'm going to assume that you meant PC and not PB there, so I'll respond.

First I resent the "What are you on comment" towards my partner. Second, how about pointing out specifically what points and parallels you find distasteful instead of saying a blanket statement like you did. Third, if you were doing a Randy Jackson impression you forgot to end your sentence with Dog.

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Fish,

Are you scum?

Don't lie to me.

Honest injun. A vote for us is a vote to mislynch.

I don't think he is, Desp!

His jokes have been falling flat all game though.

I feel like I haven't been joking much this game. Where do you see unfunny things you think I was trying to make funny?

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Honest injun. A vote for us is a vote to mislynch

Well if you are town, when are you going to start playing like it? Serious question

I don't know how to answer your question. As town I never try to play as town because I don't even know what that really means. I play the game the way I play it and hope that people will see the bright shiny beacon of townieness that I can be. I'm not even sure what about my play you consider to be scummy, because you haven't actually said yet.

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Quick wagon on us, awesome. Still town, still didn't scum slip. Desp you've never had a default scum read on me ever, so for you to vote next now means that in your eyes I've done something scummy. If you are voting me solely because "some jokes fell flat" when I wasn't even setting up hilarious one liners then I call bullshit. I feel like you are pushing me now because Beck has death tunneled on me and you know you'll have his support (most likely because you guys are scum together) and you both know that I actually am town. Beck is going to "lulz, but dat scumslip?" And you are going to "lulz his jokes were unfunny?" Away from my mislynch.

I don't know how to show people that we are being misread, especially since I feel like some of the more vocal people about our alignment have suspect alignments themselves. How do I argue with scumBeck to prove I'm town? How do I scumhunt when the people most obviously scummy are the townfolk carrying torches and pitchforks to my front door?

Also, Beck. Wasn't Ger one of the scum reads you were oh so fucking cock sure about? Guess your ability to detect scum has grown stale in your absence from the game. Town paranoia is a thing, and you show none of it.

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Paranoid of someone who is claiming to know for 100% certain that we are scum, someone who has shown no wavering to their read, someone who has said the only thing that is going g to change their mind about us is our death? You're goddamned right I am. And just because you took your vote off us for a minute doesn't mean jack shit.

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And you know what? I fucking hate it when I post something that has a bit of length to it that is directed towards a few people abd when they respond they pick out one line that isn't even really important to the entirety of my post and they respond to that. And people just let it happen. If you want to argue semantics about the word choice I used then do it while responding to the entirety of my post.

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Think townfolk like Frankenstein, who were really a bunch of assholes coming to kill an innocent guy. So scumfolk if it pleases you...

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Listen asshole, can I call you asshole? I didn't freak out over anything, much less your vote. I engaged you in discussion over what you stubbornly call a scum slip. So nice attempt at a misrep.

And town does get paranoid about their reads because we want to make sure we keep our PRS protected and to not lynch each other in place of scum. The factthat you are drop dead sure about our aalignment with no information backing it up is suspect as fuck.

Pedit- how did I react badly? And I was accused of panicking in the last game I was accused of some stupid shit too... wanna guess what happened there? I was town and my accusor was scum pushing a bullshit empty read on me that was backed by _________

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Think townfolk like Frankenstein, who were really a bunch of assholes coming to kill an innocent guy. So scumfolk if it pleases you...

so you are saying the people coming after you are all town?

good to know, I can cross all of those people off my possible scum list.

I can't even come up with how you got that conclusion out of my post.

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Desp if I were scum, why did I not vote you with DT?

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So even with the clarification that Desp asked for, you were going to try to mislead people by posting the previous quote? Noted.

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How about you answer the question instead of trying to be cute. Cheekiness is a sigh of scumfuckery from you my friend.

Pedit- what does that even mean, "see what to do"

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And I have never slipped as scum, never. Desp has been part of several successful hydra endeavors with us as scum, he should know better.

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Awesome, I am totally looking forward to it.

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So what is this, scum trying to get me mod killed? Hmm... guess things were different when you played before. More sensitive. More feminine.

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Beck entered the door after a long trying day at the office. All she could think about is slipping into the tub for a long hot bubble bath. No not bubbles, I'll use the soaking salts I got from Blush the other day, she says to herself. Losing a piece of clothing as she walked from room to room she was quickly naked standing in front of an ornate full length mirror in her room. "Forty years, two marriages, and way to many disappointments, and I still have a body that would make a teenage boy yearn," she said to no one in particular. She stops by the answering machine on her bedside table and presses the play button. A robotic voice tells her she has three messages. First message: "Beck, this is your mother. Why don't you ever cal..." Skip. Second message: "Beck, you have been chosen to partci..." Skip. Third message: "Hey beautiful. I can't stop thinking about last night. The things that we did with and too each other are like things I've only heard about in the fake letter sections of bad skin mags. I can't wait to see you again." As she listened to the message she started to feel a dampness on her thighs. She knew then that it was going to be a good night.

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Of course I take things seriously, I play to have fun, not get insulted by somebody who can't handle the fact that somebody thinks they are scum.

I wasn't scum reading ace cause I had other suspects, I'm reevaluating my reads now

I can handle someone thinking I am scum, HOWEVER, I do have an issue with someone who takes a simple sentence and twists it around to fit a bullshit view that they themselves hold. Your big push on me started with a "slip" that was discussed previously and disregarded. You however think that you saw something that everyone else missed and have made it your mission to get me lynched. No ifs, ands or butts about it. And thinking someone is scum and as you put it, "knowing with 100% certainty," are two very different things. No where in your read is there any room for error and that is the part that makes me think that you are scum trying to emulate town behavior because "scum wouldn't keep up with something for this long, only town would do that" which is bullshit logic.

So since you are big on manners, could you please stop misrepping me by saying that I can handle someone

thinking

I'm scum, when you have in fact already deemed me to be guilty before any true evidence has been put forth.

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Im not going anywhere. And get over yourself, 849 was a fucking joke.

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Tell you what though, I will help bus Desp. He has to be scum here.

Vote: Desp

If this is the game that you act scummy as fuck as town to fuck with my read on you, then brafuckingvo bro.

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Dude, your interaction with me in this game has been subpar. If you truly felt I was scum you would interact with me directly to sort me. You haven't done that here. You of all people should know what my scum game looks like, and why that is nowhere to be found in this game. Fuck, my scum game developed as a result of our fucking hydra, so for you to sit here and say i am scum comes off disingenuous as fake and scummy.

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So what rule are you accusing me of breaking exactly?

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So how literal are we to take the rule? Beck I seem to remember incredulity on your part about a post being taken a certain way by a player with a certain start date. "You been on site since 2006 and you seriously making that post?" Does that ring a bell? I feel like that could be taken as an insult, meant to offend, or abuse another player. So are you going to fall on your own sword?

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You can't leave, if you leave your slot will be conf town and you may be implicated under a trust tell

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-sonic

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Though calling him an 'asshole' was really not nice fish lol

He already got offended by 'troll' it wasn't very nice to push that further

Ah well fun games majiffy rocks and this is the best hydra

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While I dislike the way you things went down, I do like that ika is in the game. Maybe we can move on from the slip shit now.

And BBT he's probably talking about me, you know the guy your pushing for what reasons again?

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Also more votes are needed on Desp. This is not how he would treat me as town. Unless he had proof or even a better tell on me, he would treat me as town until he actually sorted me. If he says that he has done that already then get your brooms because I'm calling shenanigans.

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Look forward to you dying after i get mislynched, Fish

Good talk.

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My argument is half that, the other half is that what you are basing your scum read of me is bullshit.

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The only thing that you have mentioned is my jokes. I guess if you are withholding the actual reason then thats another story. You don't feel like town here, plain and simple.

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Quick wagon on us, awesome. Still town, still didn't scum slip. Desp you've never had a default scum read on me ever, so for you to vote next now means that in your eyes I've done something scummy. If you are voting me solely because "some jokes fell flat" when I wasn't even setting up hilarious one liners then I call bullshit. I feel like you are pushing me now because Beck has death tunneled on me and you know you'll have his support (most likely because you guys are scum together) and you both know that I actually am town. Beck is going to "lulz, but dat scumslip?" And you are going to "lulz his jokes were unfunny?" Away from my mislynch.

I don't know how to show people that we are being misread, especially since I feel like some of the more vocal people about our alignment have suspect alignments themselves. How do I argue with scumBeck to prove I'm town? How do I scumhunt when the people most obviously scummy are the townfolk carrying torches and pitchforks to my front door?

Also, Beck. Wasn't Ger one of the scum reads you were oh so fucking cock sure about? Guess your ability to detect scum has grown stale in your absence from the game. Town paranoia is a thing, and you show none of it.

I made this post after you made the jokes comment. I think this is pretty clear that I take issue with your statement.

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Your point? If anything that would be a point in my favor since I tried to address your concerns about me.

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Because your views werent clear. Because your idea of jokes are subjective. Because you are looking for me to be funny and you know that sometimes im not. Being unfunny=/=scum.

And it was bullshit the whole time, but i figured you would give me the room to work and leave me for later since that is your usual mo when we play as individuals.

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shos: whats your favorite color?

im wanting the PC lynch more now

VOTE: PC

only really vu i think hes was beeing a cheecky scumbutt

Does the final sentence there tell why you voted us? If so, could you please translate that into something i can respond to?

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Mislynching us won't be such a bad thing. At least it would give you a direction to move in after we die, because until then we are just going to be a shiny thing to distract everything from moving forward. I think I have a way to prove we are town, but I need to look back at the thread for a minute.

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Nati, how do you feel about Desp?

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How about you help me lynch him then?

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I like him too, when he is town, which is something that I am not seeing this game.

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Mixed feelings. Some of the points he has made looks like scum reaching, and some look like legit town. I would need to look more into him to formulate a better read.

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@Mod,- mark me as lva (emphasis on the l) I reached my data limit for my phone and that's how I normally play, so I'm confined to my laptop for the next few days.

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Ika, that is what your role pm says exactly?

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How did I do that exactly?

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So I'm not a vt because I asked you if that's how your role pm was?

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Desp, I saw where you flavor claimed, where did you role claim?

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So your role pm tells you that you are a vt?

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Your role pm says vt

Jesus you are being dense.

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Mine tells me that I'm a dealer, a vanilla townie, all spelled out and shit.

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Pants flipped a vt, but that's jiffy being lazy. And you guys claimed vts when you should have claimed vanilla townies.

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Jamie explain that or I swear to god I will tunnel you until I die.

And ika it should be pretty self explanatory, do you really need me to spell it out?

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Jamie explain that or I swear to god I will tunnel you until I die.

And ika it should be pretty self explanatory, do you really need me to spell it out?

yes b/c littarly your making like no sense to me what i am assuming, doing wrong.

if you think i just went to the front of the page to copy+paste it like that then you can start your tunnel now

pedit: so what happened to the "i can read fish" thing desp?

I think you saw someone flip vt and have claimed vt. My role pm tells me I'm a vanilla townie. Do you see the difference?

Desp why ace and not ika?

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How the fuck do you figure? Neither of you could correctly claim vt, but he is town?

Pedit- there is a difference.

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pedit: so what happened to the "i can read fish" thing desp?

I can. I'm reading him right now. He's town.

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whos scum and why right now has to be 3 people.

Why would anyone need to give you a list of 3 people who are scum on day 2?

Soooo, mass-claiming sounds pretty bad.

One of PC/Ika is scum. I'm struggling to see Ika scum because I had a strong town-read on Beck so I still think it's PC.

What part of our interactions screams town for him? Is it when he didn't get what I was talking about with the whole "VT v. Vanilla Townie" thing? Or the fact that he disappeared as soon as he figured out he'd slipped up? And how the fuck do you still have a scum read on us? You are either suffering from a crippling case of confirmation bias, or you are scum. Wanna dance to figure out which it is?

Lol. Okay. I now have a solid town read on ika.

Explain this, and while you are at it, how are you reading our slot right now?

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I am reading the thread, and I think that this is a little different of a case considering the whole vt v. vanilla townie thing. Unless you think that is nothing.

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Then why would he be backing a mass claim? I was fine with it because I saw it when Desp claimed early today. ISO me and you will find a post where I say that I think I can clear myself, well here it is.

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And seriously, a joat, watcher and mason pair in the game is probably our PRs. I think that scum got caught. Plain and simple.

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Aronis, that is why I was being quite explicit with my part of that whole conversation.

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I feel like one of them would have gotten annoyed enough with me to say very plainly that they were a dealer, a vanilla townie. Neither of them did, and they both acted like i was crazy with what I was trying to do. At this point I want to see them both hang.

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I'm still on Desp, are you saying you would rather Ika first?

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Nati start on page 45 and work forward.

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That's your response man? Jesus, can you at least pretend to be town? When have you ever given this little effort when you are going to be lynched?

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Yes we are really doing that. And I have my vote where I want it to be right now. Don't worry, we'll have plenty of time for you tomorrow. And watch your tone, I've already been warned for offensive behavior once this game, I'd hate to say something to you that would get me in more trouble.