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In post 17, Antihero wrote:
etl, this jealousy
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i can be jealous. you were supposed to be a lady last time so we could dance and you went and decided to be a scummy gentArt is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 25, ika wrote:
seeing how the 2 picks i was wanted are taken you prob wont expect much from me tbh
dancing with anti was kinda planned in the last game. and then he went and tried to get two girls at once.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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i said i was sorry. anti and i had planned to dance in this game before it even went into the queue.
i do think we maybe should have talked a bit more during the pre-dance phase.
reck is a mostly town read right now. mollie following with some slight hesitation but i was rather drunk last night so i'm gonna re-read the pre-dance pages. pretty much not going to let myself be paranoid of anti because i wont be able to see anything if i do. he's town until he gives me a reason to believe otherwise. and that's where i'm at.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 59, pirate mollie wrote:how on earth is reck a townread.
he has only made a couple of posts and only 1 in our dancing room and I already think he is scum.
lol really?
well, in the last game, scum won but were initially caught due to the way they paired up with each other. reck's post to you and your response to him didn't seem orchestrated and it came off rather carefree to me - not like he was looking to pair with a particular person. a lot of it is connected with how you responded to him, which makes me think you couldn't be his partner, so if you're not, why would he ask you beyond being good friends and wanting to share a PT with you? that seemed pretty open to me.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 61, pirate mollie wrote:well scum!reck would know that I was town and not likely to get lynched very easily.
obvsly I wanna see more of him before I make any kind of determination of his alignment.
I didn't follow the other game but I take it scum picked each other? do you have a link?
Yeah I'll post it next post.
So basically, in the last game, people got trigger happy with the "leave the dance" mechanic, thinking their partner was scum. We have the same thing here. Now, the thing is that scum's best chance in that game was to pair with each other and let the town paranoia kill themselves in the process, which is exactly what happened. Pairing up separately with town was dangerous because of the suicide mechanic - the mafia started out as lovers so killing one, killed the other, and town suiciding on a mafia lover would end the game instantly in a townwin.
FG said he tweaked the setup a bit and based on the description in the queue, it seems to me that mafia partners may be any gender, and they are no longer lovers, but this is really just my own speculation based on what seems to be missing from the description that was listed in the last game.
However, assuming similar mechanics for the time being - if Reck was scum, and you're town, pairing with you is not only dumb because of the suicide option, but because you are friends and know each other's meta.
In the last game, we had decided to vote on who to kick out rather than allowing the pairings to be the decision, and then tried to decide as a group on the pairings themselves. Something I completely forgot about mentioning and we totally should have done, because at this point, there's not much to analyze in the way of how the pairs were formed. But what's done is done.
My suggestion would be to have everyone explain why they chose who they chose.
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In post 66, pirate mollie wrote:also I am on p8 of summer promenade and notice there was a lot of foreplay in predance and somehow I feel cheated but what else did I expect with being lovers with a gay guy.
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In post 64, Kagami wrote:The previous game had an obvious breaking strategy due to the mafia being lovers among themselves, which made the pre-dance pairing critical.
This time, it looks like that isn't the case. The only thing that mattered is that scum gentlemen had to get a partner.
There are a couple of minor oddities from the pre-dance I want to discuss, but I want to talk to marquis first. He's LA or whatever and hasn't yet posted in the PT.
Yeah but I still think scum would wanna pair with each other since it reduces the risk of being caught via the PT. Definitely not as useful re: watching the pairings as it was in the last game though.
Reck don't you know - you need to butter her up a little more first. Women need lots of attention. Don't be selfish.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 101, xRECKONERx wrote:I think Marquis is town
Where is this coming from?
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In post 104, ika wrote:In post 92, ika wrote:etl whats your read on me. it feels like you haven't decided yet and it bugs me now
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In post 114, pirate mollie wrote:I am pretty sure he has been around.
then he hasn't been talking to me he made a few posts this morning but we're mid convo and haven't finished.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 126, ika wrote:i already set-up pants to help solve the game
I'm not going to dredge up again how awfully the two of you played in that game...
And for the record, I agree with Anti completely. I don't particularly like your goading of mollie to suicide, considering that is scum's strongest tactic in this setup to reduce town numbers. I don't like your reaction to me, and I don't like the fact that you simply dropped it. And I don't like that you take my word on Reck being town but not Anti. What's the difference, considering you've played the same amount of games with Anti as you have with Reck (and probably more really...) You pass a read on Reck citing "I trust you as town", when my ability to read Anti is far stronger, but you waffle on him. In fact, writing this out now, it seems you would be more wary of Anti reading YOU correctly than Reck reading you correctly.
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In post 134, ArcAngel9 wrote:Hangon guys.. I am out till monday.. Will catch up tomorrow..
It's almost as if the mod DIDN'T post that activity is important to this game. It's not like we only have 12 days TOTAL to catch both of them.
Oh wait... we DO only have 12 days......
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In post 169, droog wrote:In post 164, Antihero wrote:In post 163, ika wrote:well then you have a contridciton by etl anti, she said you 2 preplanned it or is she lying?
VOTE: anti
also AA9 is town
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it's not even close to a contradiction. she signed up as the opposite sex to me with the understanding that i would ask her first post (we were actually GOING to do this in the summer game, but we both signed up as gentlemen because miscommunication)
then mollie signed up and i thought, "i'm not choosing one, i'm asking both"
that reason was pulled
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someone please corroborate
Yes. Anti is one of my closest friends on this site. He's also very close with mollie. If you read the last game (it's short), you'll also see that Anti and I had planned to dance together but I signed up as a gentleman so we said we would pair up for this game. When I saw mollie sign up, I was already expecting him to ask her as well, so I'm not surprised at all.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 172, pirate mollie wrote:I am going to walk around the lake
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I like droog so far. I like Kagami better too. Anti is still being town here and in the PT. Looking forward to hearing from AA9.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 171, ika wrote:PT dicussion
You're going to have to explain this a little better. Anyone can say "X is town for PT discussion". It says nothing and doesn't allow the rest of the players to evaluate your read themselves.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 177, ika wrote:there was enough dicussion to where we both believe the other is town.
sometimes asking the right questions is the easiest wayt o figure it out
post quantity = town? why are you dodging the question...
when you answer mine, i'll answer yours, though it's not like i've been hiding my reads.
AA9 has been a non-presence here, and yet you have her as a townread b/c "PT". Explain exactly what makes you think so. Your refusal to be accountable for your own statements doesn't really make think I'm wrong here.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 184, ika wrote:cus i rahter not spoile how i can devine such lagre things over a small talk.
no offense, ika, you know i love you but....
your ability to "divine" anything is ... very low. if you were town, you'd be willing to share it with experienced players in the thread (like anti, like mollie, like reck) to discuss whether they agree or not, and learn from their input. but you aren't doing that.
if you're not scum, i'd be looking at AA9 anyway. so lynching your pair helps no matter what.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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First of all.. I cant even read that yellowness. It's like neon knives in my eyes.Kagami is pretty damn town for the way he's been discussing the game and his involvement. Anti is also. I've been not only the most active but the one providing the most reasoning behind my scumhunting, yet you have me as yellow. and then when i ask you to explain your thoughts and your reads, you just throw AtE at me and continue not explaining them.
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you see no reason to share withthe rest of the game? I'm not the only player here. Do you think I'm the only one who can make any use of your thoughts if you do indeed flip town?
Like what is the hold up? I don't understand why getting you to share your impressions of AA's PT posts is like pulling fucking teeth.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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What you are not getting, ika, is that you and AA are the only ones with access to your PT. The only way we can have any kind of insight into what is occurring in there is THROUGH YOU AND AA9. Whether your opinions are listened to or whether you die or anything of that is fucking irrelevant. Anything you say about somethingwe can't seeis helpful and you aren't willing to be helpful because............. ???????????????????????Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 203, ika wrote:HOW ABOUT WHEN I FUCKING SAID I ASKED A DELIBERATELY LOADED QUESTION THAT HOW SHE ANSWERED IT IS WHAT MAKES ME THINK SHE TOWN?
THAT TELLS ME NOTHING. I have been asking you to explain further and you refuse. Stop being vague. What did you ask her? How did she respond? Why does her response make you think she's town? Why do you think that response would not come from scum?Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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Yes actually. I don't think you do. A loaded question is one in which no matter what the answer, the responder looks guilty.
Ex: Do you still beat your children? A person who says "no" is admitting that they have beaten their children in the past, and of course a person who says yes is admitting that they currently do.
So when you say that you asked a loaded question, I'd like to know what it is, how she responded, and what about it brought you to your current conclusion.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 215, xRECKONERx wrote:ika is v town.
Kagami, ika are my strongest town reads.
Droog, ETL are my strongest scum reads.
@Mollie why do you read me/anti as scum?
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I guess I didn't notice that. Or more to the point, I didn't equate it as a scumtell. (As a note - the "question-asked, question-answered, the end" progression is something i do myself - some people are not as good at knowing what needs to be shared, or knowing what should be, or knowing if they even have something that people want shared.) However, I did use this same tactic myself during my first scumgame as a newbie and it worked ("but i dunno what's going on!").
I've got town at Kagami/droog/Anti, with a side of Reck, though Reck's latest analysis of droogs posts makes me want to go look at it again.
Reck, re: amished tellit's when a replacement comments on the predecessor's play. I don't know what she's referring to but I'll see if I can find it when I go through the ISO.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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well, initially he started out as a question mark. pre-dance only had that one post, but when dance started he became fully engaged and argued devil's advocate (rather than for the sake of defending someone). i'm probably not remembering completely, but i'm giving you the overall general reasoning. i do need to ISO everyone now that there are some substantial posting.
anyway, my main thing was his response to... (i forget) about AA's decision and how it was important to point it out (i agreed). AND and and really the way he openly shared his change of view on ika. i kind of expect scum to be more "stick to your guns" until necessary to do otherwise since it "shows" consistency. i don’t see that kind of self-aware concern from his posts.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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i honestly don't even know how to respond to the suspicions of me. i know i'm town but i realize that means nothing to anyone.
but re: me being synced with anti - i dunno if that's anything to do with him, probably more me. we hydra and play tons of games together. at the moment, i'm kind of treating it like a hydra. while i do have a bit of paranoia every now and then, i'm ignoring it until i see something truly indicative of scumAnti. i have no doubt i'd catch him if he is.Art is cool.- EspeciallyTheLies
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In post 256, xRECKONERx wrote:In post 252, Kagami wrote:I ask him if he's an alt and if he knows the playerlist, answers: yes, no
Okay, then FUCK this shit about him acting "so noob"... he's not a noob at all, he's pretending to be.
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