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Post Post #36479 (isolation #800) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:31 pm

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Sorry, I was unclear; I meant that it was probably a Kalista thing (and real).
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Post Post #36483 (isolation #801) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:08 pm

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Does the Harrowing usually come with an RP sale? I'd like to buy some more RP, but I'd like to get it when the bonus RP is doubled, like during the event a month or two ago.
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Post Post #36487 (isolation #802) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:35 am

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If you accept them, they'll try to sell you boosting and then remove you.
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Post Post #36517 (isolation #803) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:09 pm

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omg chevre chevre chevre

I will move my computer to watch it and cheer for chevre.
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Post Post #36521 (isolation #804) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:29 pm

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I actually had never noticed that that was Draven.
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Post Post #36531 (isolation #805) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:17 pm

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Ohh, is Fakegod Aetis?
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Post Post #36537 (isolation #806) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:20 pm

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In post 36533, quadz08 wrote:The baron steal

that was legit
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Post Post #36538 (isolation #807) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:21 pm

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In post 36529, Chevre wrote:I think the hardest thing I have to grasp now is just how you know the stats of all the different champions and stuff

but I guess that's similar to competitive Pokemon, and definitely more narrow than that.

Play ARAMs!
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Post Post #36540 (isolation #808) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:34 pm

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Nah, that was someone else. Maybe Maestro when he had this avatar. XD
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Post Post #36544 (isolation #809) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:00 pm

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Azir/Xerath slash inc.
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Post Post #36550 (isolation #810) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:38 pm

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I've played with a mid Soraka before. She was top damages. ^^
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Post Post #36555 (isolation #811) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:43 pm

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In post 36553, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 36550, Iecerint wrote:I've played with a mid Soraka before. She was top damages. ^^

pre-rework, yes, she was viable as a mid (see: LCS)

Nope, this was post-rework. I'm not being cheeky.
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Post Post #36574 (isolation #812) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:02 pm

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I think in my case the biggest early "jump" in my self-perceived competence was when I read a few (mostly outdated) guides on what items various champions built. I switched from the Recommended items, which are often kinda misleading, and onto the types of items I saw in guides. I also asked AP a lot of questions about what 6 items I should go for on Sona, who was free the first week I played the game and whom I kinda fell in love with.

One way to keep them all straight is to recognize that certain items are typically built-together (for example, Rylai's and Liandry's are built together frequently because Rylai's makes Liandry's stronger; you'll see what I mean if you read what the items do). So you can end up remembering a handful of item sets instead of remembering every item individually. You can also codify this if you want by making Item Sets -- the option is one of the buttons on your profile by Runes and Masteries. You can organize them ahead of time in a way that makes sense to you and maybe make one for each of the champions you play the most. I used these when I started because I found them kinda fun, but I just type in the item names manually know because I know them all.

I basically never play melee champs if I can at all avoid it because I am a coward, so I'm not very good at offering advice on the bruiser-y champions that you picked today (e.g., Sion and Vi). My level of critical thinking for those types of champions' items is kinda like "well, maybe hydra or cleaver? idk?" XD
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Post Post #36575 (isolation #813) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:05 pm

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Just be careful not to be confused by old guides, because some items have changed a lot since the ancient days. Maybe confirm that you're not reading a guide from 2013 or whatever. ^^;

You'll pick it up on your own without that, too.
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Post Post #36578 (isolation #814) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:18 pm

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You were good with Sivir's Q! :] You also landed Syndra's stun (her E) pretty well.

Maybe I can check out who is free next time and try to recommend someone you might like.
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Post Post #36620 (isolation #815) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:49 am

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I used to not really understand support Lulu, but then I switched to maxing Q last and E first, and now it's much easier. You can just autoattack them into oblivion while covering for your silly ADC.

Recently I've come to appreciate how much I like playing poke into Lucian, providing he doesn't have Blitz. Just stand to the side of the minions and autoattack him whenever he wants to try to poke your ADC with his Q.
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Post Post #36669 (isolation #816) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:30 pm

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Reck's original point was that the two reasonable starts were mana crystal and boots.
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Post Post #36721 (isolation #817) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:00 pm

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Ya Fiora is like top 5 winrates through Plat IIRC.

I think a lot of it has to do with Jax falling out of favor. Jax is super strong against her.
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Post Post #36725 (isolation #818) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:04 pm

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Ah,I thought she just surged recently. The buzz when I first started playing the game was that she was terrible.
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Post Post #36739 (isolation #819) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:02 pm

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In post 36738, FakeGod wrote:you can take flash smite as blitz supp

you steal enemy buff at lv 1

ashe is the best adc. you should start with 21/9/0 full ad runes and a dorans blade then run to the junglers buff. place a trinket over the wall and use a critical shot to take the buff and volley to level up to level 2 from the small minions. from there run to the mid lane bush and wait for the champions to start fighting. run out of the bush and ignite critical shot volley and frost shot for an easy first blood. with the changes it makes it easy to get first blood and the junglers first buff and snowball to victory[/quote]
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Post Post #36743 (isolation #820) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:36 pm

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I was making a joke.
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Post Post #36761 (isolation #821) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:18 pm

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Dan is really good at Lux, too.
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Post Post #36768 (isolation #822) » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:15 am

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Post Post #36771 (isolation #823) » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:46 am

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A lot of the changes are kinda silly, but I like the Galio rework a lot.
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Post Post #36850 (isolation #824) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:43 pm

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I wonder if the Harrowing video is teasing Kallista.
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Post Post #36877 (isolation #825) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:18 am

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I have experienced the most extraordinary losing streak over the previous 24 hours. Wow.
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Post Post #36879 (isolation #826) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:25 am

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I've fallen from Silver 1 to Silver 3 over the course of 2 days. I'm now playing with people who have bizarre runes and don't know how to play the game, then rage at others because of their failures.

I just had a lane where I had to ADC with a Leona who didn't buy a support item and never used any abilities in lane until her ult at level 6 (which she missed), and I STILL had the highest cs at the end of laning phase. Of course, the enemy Akali had 5 kills.
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Post Post #36880 (isolation #827) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:26 am

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Like, I used to always play ranked with people who seemed like mature, well-adjusted people. They'd only rage when someone would throw at Baron.

These games are always over by 5 minutes.

I guess it's because I used to play ranked around 1 AM EST on weekdays? This has been Saturday.
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Post Post #36881 (isolation #828) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:31 am

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Like, I'm currently against a team where Sona doesn't have Flash and no one has Smite.
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Post Post #36885 (isolation #829) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:03 pm

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I killed them all, but it put me in a draft normal somehow. Maybe riot does that when you've lost a lot of ranked in a row. I was the only ranked person in the normal draft game.
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Post Post #36886 (isolation #830) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:09 pm

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OP.GG counted it as ranked, though. Idk.

Also, whenever I drop a division, I get a message saying that I dropped due to inactivity, which I obviously didn't. I guess this always happens?
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Post Post #36889 (isolation #831) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:10 pm

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I just had a glorious Vladimir game. I really wish I had recorded the last team fight. Omg.
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Post Post #36898 (isolation #832) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:52 pm

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In post 36890, ActionDan wrote:I guess losing streak is over

It actually turns out that the crazy normalesque game was also ranked. The enemy were just all really bad.

But then I lost my next two, so series lost. :[
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Post Post #36923 (isolation #833) » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:30 am

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Yay 18/6/13 91% kill participation Jayce. ^^

I noticed going in that Vayne was a booster based on her rank and recent performance. I mentioned this after a team fight we lost where she cleaned up. Then our Lee Sin said that he was boosting, too. ^^;

Season-end problems.
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Post Post #36967 (isolation #834) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:51 pm

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rito pls
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Post Post #37004 (isolation #835) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:00 am

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If your mid laner has already died to Katarina 3 times, you should not give your mid laner blue buff because they are obviously going to die to Katarina again.
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Post Post #37015 (isolation #836) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:47 am

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In post 37012, zoraster wrote:btw. why did no one tell me that I could still buy an elixer even if I had 6 items? I've actually sold and rebought items because I thought I needed a spare spot.

This actually confused me, too, because on SR you can't buy the Elixir until you actually respawn from death. They should just let you buy it and delay the start of the countdown.
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Post Post #37111 (isolation #837) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:42 am

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That one's an improvement. His face doesn't look so "off" anymore.

Not sure what they changed about Singed.
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Post Post #37126 (isolation #838) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:47 am

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In post 37120, Maestro wrote:Reaper Soraka splash is bamf

In post 37123, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 37107, mykonian wrote:praying for next year then. This years halloween skins were shit :(

I really enjoy spooky monkey. What are you on about.
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Post Post #37154 (isolation #839) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:41 am

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I think it was just playing a matched game in season 1 (matched, not necessarily ranked).
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Post Post #37271 (isolation #840) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:46 pm

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Grats. ^^
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Post Post #37330 (isolation #841) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:41 am

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She looks fun. :]
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Post Post #37331 (isolation #842) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:41 am

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In post 37325, PJ. wrote:
In post 37321, SXTLHGaiden wrote:best route:
get red, gank mid, get blue, gank mid, do stuff, gank mid.


Best route: Lily > Hanako = Emi > Rin >>>Shizuka

:D
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Post Post #37366 (isolation #843) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:57 pm

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2 wins away now. ^^

Yeah, I've been duoing with Dan's smurf for awhile.
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Post Post #37368 (isolation #844) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:10 pm

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In post 37363, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 37325, PJ. wrote:
In post 37321, SXTLHGaiden wrote:best route:
get red, gank mid, get blue, gank mid, do stuff, gank mid.


Best route: Lily > Hanako = Emi > Rin >>>Shizuka

I'm so upset that I know what this means

fuck

It's really well done! There was a thread about it in the SE awhile ago. The girls are all handicapable. :]

I played through Lily and Emi.
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Post Post #37387 (isolation #845) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:08 pm

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550 isn't short. It's not exceptional, but it's not short. It's just kinda the "default" range.

It's the same as Corki/Miss Fortune/Ezrael/Vayne/Draven/Twitch; it's longer than Graves/Urgot/Quinn/Sivir/Lucian; it's shorter than Varus/Ashe/Caitlyn/Tristanaatlevel2. She also seems to hae decent range on her Q skillshot.
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Post Post #37496 (isolation #846) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:11 pm

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In post 37492, DeathNote wrote:Officially got demoted. I guess I will give up on gold now. I am just not a Gold tier player apparently.

You have to duo queue at this point. The games in ranked are dominated by boosters right now.
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Post Post #37498 (isolation #847) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:19 pm

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I meant, duo queue with a legit smurf so that your team always has someone with an undervalued MMR.

Rito has said that this is not a violation as recently as this morning.
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Post Post #37500 (isolation #848) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:26 pm

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Ah, I see what you mean.

Well, it worked for me and Dan, ^_^
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Post Post #37502 (isolation #849) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:15 pm

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I lost a lot when I just played alone 2 weeks ago.
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Post Post #37540 (isolation #850) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:29 pm

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I'm curious about how the math works out when a player has the current Ancient Golem passive. I remember the math about %health seals becoming good in that scenario, but don't know where the HP/resistance break-off point falls.
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Post Post #37587 (isolation #851) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:04 am

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Miss Fortune totally poops on her.
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Post Post #37589 (isolation #852) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:06 am

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Like, I'm awful at ADC and super non-aggressive/low-risk during lane in general other than poking em out, but I am pretty confident I can kill Vayne as MF just by pressing Q and avoiding being condemned into a wall.

There's the scaling thing but.
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Post Post #37591 (isolation #853) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:06 am

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And the support matters.
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Post Post #37608 (isolation #854) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:07 pm

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The "Vayne has range issues" stuff is just because she doesn't have any abilities (other than Condemn) that are longer than her AA range. Other champions who have 550 have extra range on one or more of their abilities (or they get more range ala Trist).
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Post Post #37610 (isolation #855) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:11 pm

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Ashe can press W like a champion.
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Post Post #37620 (isolation #856) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:31 pm

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Try Hearthstone!
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Post Post #37624 (isolation #857) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:58 pm

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In post 37621, PJ. wrote:Hearthstone sucks

I used to think so, too, but I tried really really hard, and now I like it pretty well!
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Post Post #37627 (isolation #858) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:33 pm

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I would watch Panzer stream a really cute JRPG.

Like Ni No Kuni or something.
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Post Post #37680 (isolation #859) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:32 am

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It's for everyone who has never been punished. That's almost everyone who plays league.

I looks like something else will go to people who refer positive chat logs and are selected.

pedit: ye
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Post Post #37713 (isolation #860) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:04 am

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Liandry's seems like it'd be passable because she applies a slow so easily.

I'm happy she might fit into the new jungle meta better. ^_^
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Post Post #37763 (isolation #861) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:55 pm

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Who used it in competitive? O.o
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Post Post #37843 (isolation #862) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:04 pm

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Banner of Command seems really strong now. It's like a Locket with a different active that gives AP.
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Post Post #37851 (isolation #863) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:22 pm

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I just supported a Kalista for the first time, and even though we were in Skype, I had the same experience as Panzer. Firing the ult seems kinda non-responsive, though, so part of it may be bugs that need patching.
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Post Post #37855 (isolation #864) » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:05 am

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The enchantments are pretty strong across the board. It feels a lot better to build them than to finish the old jungle items, I think.
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Post Post #37856 (isolation #865) » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:10 am

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Magus feels really great on Diana.
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Post Post #37913 (isolation #866) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:57 am

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In post 37904, Ankamius wrote:Yasuo's win% doesn't surprise me. I have yet to see a Yasuo be remotely useful in any of my soloq games. He's a champion that requires a higher skill level to use well.

They're giving him some power back soon. It's not on the PBE, but a Rioter made a post about it. IIRC, it's the half the Q and movespeed nerfs would be reverted.
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Post Post #38016 (isolation #867) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:45 pm

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In post 38012, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Wait.

WW's getting nerfed, the smite he gets is getting nerfed AND the enchantment is being nerfed.

I think he took Skirmisher's for the on-hit effect with his ult.
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Post Post #38036 (isolation #868) » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:40 am

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AP and I got 100.

For the last 10 we basically just figured out ones we were missing and used wild mass guessing.
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Post Post #38141 (isolation #869) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:30 am

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Rito has her difficulty rating kinda low.

A friend bought me Irelia recently and I've been having fun with her.
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Post Post #38153 (isolation #870) » Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:42 pm

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I'm pretty sure you just build full tank and triforce and do ridiculous damage. Triforce is especially great because mega gnar's base AD is so high.
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Post Post #38203 (isolation #871) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:49 pm

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AD Vlad
Irelia stronk.
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Post Post #38210 (isolation #872) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:19 pm

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Morgana + Katarina very strong.
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Post Post #38268 (isolation #873) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:35 pm

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In post 38266, zoraster wrote:do you like ARAM? Yes? maybe it'll be interesting. Do you hate, like all good people do, ARAM? If so, it is only marginally better/worse.

People hate ARAM? :(
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Post Post #38269 (isolation #874) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:35 pm

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For one thing, it doesn't have the R.
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Post Post #38408 (isolation #875) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:32 pm

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Diamond picked Sej after that, though. :p

I hope she keeps getting picked. I may buy her.
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Post Post #38435 (isolation #876) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:44 pm

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Hard to gank with Elise?

How the mighty have fallen.
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Post Post #38437 (isolation #877) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:48 pm

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She also has Rappel. Which also got a range nerf I think.
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Post Post #38439 (isolation #878) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:54 pm

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IIRC it was something like the range was calculated from her midpoint instead of from the outside of her character model plus a slight numbers buff, but with a overall range nerf.
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Post Post #38442 (isolation #879) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:52 am

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21/9/0 Ashe returns.
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Post Post #38443 (isolation #880) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:52 am

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The tag is just [youtube] and then you only have to put the goofy letters inside the tags.
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Post Post #38457 (isolation #881) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:08 am

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log in action daniel.
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Post Post #38459 (isolation #882) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:52 am

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I never really feel like I need a mana item on Morgana.
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Post Post #38462 (isolation #883) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:49 am

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It was a standard build before the most recent patch (not sure if it's been implemented yet? the long winter break might mean it's been delayed still), which increased the cost of Morellonomicon to. It's because Morello was so much cheaper than Athene's. I don't know if the cost increase was enough to change the ideal buy, but you still see people buy double Morello in games.
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Post Post #38483 (isolation #884) » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:38 am

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Cassiopeia has the #5 winrate right now. Yay for Cass.
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Post Post #38487 (isolation #885) » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:00 am

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Better to build him AD if you want damage. His AP ratios are pretty crappy, he has an AD ratio on his E passive, and he has at least a bit of range.
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Post Post #38498 (isolation #886) » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:32 am

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Also he's sexy and quit smoking.
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Post Post #38500 (isolation #887) » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:33 am

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The Mafia Graves splash still has it, but it's the only one.
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Post Post #38504 (isolation #888) » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:29 pm

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I did not! You must be very special.
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Post Post #38518 (isolation #889) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:22 am

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I'm pleased about the free skin news. :]
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Post Post #38521 (isolation #890) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:40 am

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Bad boys are people who got some kind of formal punishment this year already.
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Post Post #38523 (isolation #891) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:41 am

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Rito thx
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Post Post #38525 (isolation #892) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:59 am

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Do you have all the legacy skins? Maybe you can get one that way?
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Post Post #38530 (isolation #893) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:31 pm

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I got a warning once after I was in a game with a premade 4.
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Post Post #38542 (isolation #894) » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:49 am

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I have never built a sunfire cape in my life.
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Post Post #38545 (isolation #895) » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:02 am

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In post 38543, MrZepher wrote:good for you

Rawr.
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Post Post #38556 (isolation #896) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:17 am

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Has anyone tried doing the Runaan's Kalista thing? I've read about it, but haven't really encountered it yet.
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Post Post #38607 (isolation #897) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:53 am

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Zora we are twins. ^_^
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Post Post #38608 (isolation #898) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:54 am

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Still no skin for me tho.
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Post Post #38611 (isolation #899) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:16 am

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Sneaky picks her a lot on his stream.
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Post Post #38615 (isolation #900) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:41 am

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Hey, if you guys didn't know, you can get Garen/Dreadknight Garen by following League on Twitter.

I had only known about Tristana and Alistar.

I just saw a reddit thread about it.
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Post Post #38619 (isolation #901) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:18 am

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I hadn't even bought Garen. I could always remove them now.

It didn't ask me to let them post things for me on Twitter. I just clicked Follow. I guess I'll keep an eye on it.
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Post Post #38645 (isolation #902) » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:25 am

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Full Metal Jayce!

I already have Debonair, but I like both skins. ^_^
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Post Post #38699 (isolation #903) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:45 pm

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Nu-Tristana seems really bad to me. That AS growth is really really bad. Like, so bad.

I guess her burst is also quite a bit better now, but it's going to have the same problem as when now-Tristana tries to jump in and out of the enemy unless they make her W much more responsive.

Vel'koz skin so pretty, though.
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Post Post #38705 (isolation #904) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:10 pm

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rip dfg
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Post Post #38710 (isolation #905) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:04 pm

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The only champion they've said they're definitely giving compensation buffs to is Ahri, so she should be OK. Rito has said that they like her assassination pattern.

They also mentioned giving buffs to Veigar, though they sounded less enthusiastic about that.
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Post Post #38713 (isolation #906) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:17 pm

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She was kind of out of it before her buffs right around All Stars last season I think.

Voyboy posted something about using it as an excuse to build Gunblade on every champion. ^_^
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Post Post #38725 (isolation #907) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:46 am

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Sejuani feels really strong to me right now, though I didn't play her pre-rework. High damage, tanky, metric ton of CC, best ult NA, maxing W for the clear is now both her best buff control and damage option, she has the mobility to keep from dying in her jungle if people try to abuse her early game, and she got a big level 1 mana boost that means you can do a pretty solid first clear.

Apparently she was just picked support in OGN a few days ago, too. O_O
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Post Post #38729 (isolation #908) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:30 am

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So cute.
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Post Post #38730 (isolation #909) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:32 am

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"I call frontline!" XD
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Post Post #38735 (isolation #910) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:00 pm

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I've seen Cass called broken. She's strong because of the rework rework.

Thresh' Gold+ win rate isn't much higher.
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Post Post #38737 (isolation #911) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:44 pm

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Just responding to the "bronzies" comment.
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Post Post #38738 (isolation #912) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:46 pm

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(Though, his winrate is 48% Diamond+, so it's not like that Diamond+ is special higher either.)
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Post Post #38753 (isolation #913) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:12 pm

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In post 38750, FakeGod wrote:where can I hear these item quotes

my youtube skills are too inferior to find them

They're roughly in the middle. They're all kinda in a chunk together. I recognized ones for IE, LW, and MS.
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Post Post #38813 (isolation #914) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:11 am

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In post 38807, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't feel like Zed has counterplay because all he does is poke you until you're at about 75% hp then all-ins you and kills you. You can't beat him in anall-in with ANYTHING.

His earlygame is complete bullshit, his midgame is bullshit, his towerkilling is bullshit, his assassinating is bullshit, his waveclear is bullshit, etc. And to top it off it's impossible to cc him because shadows need to be on a 1 minute cooldown at least with the bonus AD it has.

I think Vlad is really strong into Zed. You can sustain through or match his harass, his range is short enough that he can't zone you out of cs very well, and you can press W to ruin his ult. If he pushes and roams, you can counter-push really quickly. If he's not ahead by level 7, you start to outscale. Playing Vlad into AD also lets you build an early Zhonya's comfortably, which is both what Vlad wants anyway for another round or two of spells each team fight (if you also rush 40% CDR) and yet-another way to ruin his ult.
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Post Post #38816 (isolation #915) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:35 am

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Regarding counterplay, in addition to building whatever item is appropriate to counter his ult (Zhonya/QSS for AP/AD), you can dodge his non-ult abilities.

I think if I had a better sense of his cooldowns I could harass him more in lane and do even better, but I feel like against a typical Zed I can basically never take advantage of his weakness windows as Vlad and still go even and then outscale.

The main issue is always if he pushes and roams, everyone ignores the missing ping, and he gets a double kill in botlane.
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Post Post #38825 (isolation #916) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:06 am

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Apparently they changed the algorithm this season such that assuming you do about as well as you always do you should place just slightly under wherever you are right now (i.e., with less potential to swing wildly up or down).
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Post Post #38830 (isolation #917) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:54 am

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I think he means before the first pre-season patch.
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Post Post #38832 (isolation #918) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:16 am

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Zed has an attack speed nerf on the PBE.
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Post Post #38834 (isolation #919) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:03 am

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Ani probably cares, since he was talking about Zed being OP on the previous page.
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Post Post #38835 (isolation #920) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:04 am

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But ya, that's neat. :]
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Post Post #38839 (isolation #921) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:30 pm

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In post 38837, ActionDan wrote:
In post 38833, KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:

Alistar W becoming a skillshot, that's where it's at

Woah

It was apparently unintended. CertainlyT posted about it on reddit saying it was an accident.
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Post Post #38884 (isolation #922) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:33 am

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I am excited to enter Bronze for the first time whenever I get around to it. ^_^
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Post Post #38888 (isolation #923) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:16 pm

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The 2-for-1 rune page sale is going now, but only accessible via bundles. Just thought I'd post this here to let everyone know.
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Post Post #38922 (isolation #924) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:01 am

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In my games Zyra supports tend to support the same way as anyone else. I'm usually happy to see Zyra because people who pick Zyra generally know how she works.
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Post Post #38924 (isolation #925) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:08 am

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I think people do that kind of thing less and less as you climb.

I recently made a smurf to play with a friend who's just starting, and it's amazing how much people complain about "ks" and all that. I had forgotten.
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Post Post #38933 (isolation #926) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:08 pm

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PRESCRIPTIVISM NEVER.

DESCRIPTIVISM NOW.

/drunkpost
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Post Post #38934 (isolation #927) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:08 pm

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BRO did you know that we are both cognitive science majors.

We are basically the same person.
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Post Post #38936 (isolation #928) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:10 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #38937 (isolation #929) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:10 pm

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I took neurolinguistics and some intros, but that was all.
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Post Post #38938 (isolation #930) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:11 pm

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Though now I do ERP, which I was previously exposed to mainly through that class.
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Post Post #38958 (isolation #931) » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:32 am

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Gragas does much more damage than Alistar, Lux has more solo pick potential than Morgana.

About 6-8 months ago when I was defending Sona, people were pointing out that support Annie and Zyra were categorically superior to her, which I'm sure sounds pretty silly in hindsight. With the exception of her rework (which was at least not a straightforward nerf), Sona's only received nerfs since that time.

I think the balance in the game is better right now than at any other time since I started playing. It's more important to pick champions that work well together (or work well against the enemy team) than to throw individually strong champions together.
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Post Post #38978 (isolation #932) » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:35 pm

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He's good against Swain.
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Post Post #38992 (isolation #933) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:31 am

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Other than with Rengar, there is nothing special about kills vs. cs. However, burst mages are a lot more useful if ahead, so people emphasize that they "need" kills in order to do their job. This may be the language you're thinking of.

Match-up issues are usually something you get a feel for when you play a champion a lot. For Vladimir, bad matchups are against people who can all-in him when he goes to cs (Riven and similar), who can zone him out of cs (Orianna and similar), or who can prevent an extended trade while having more burst (Ryze and similar).
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Post Post #38997 (isolation #934) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:40 am

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I don't think that's what he's asking. Based on his reference to "someone needing kills," I think he's trying to understand where statements likes "Leblanc relies on kills in lane to be relevant" come from.
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Post Post #39000 (isolation #935) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:44 am

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The first time I played Akali was against Jayce, and I got like 20 cs before level 6.

Then I killed him using point-and-click powers.

It felt very silly.
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Post Post #39003 (isolation #936) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:00 am

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I think he was really cocky because I clearly hadn't known what I was doing before that.
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Post Post #39026 (isolation #937) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:51 pm

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Cass has mana cost increases on the PBE. Using her E mana refund might become more important.
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Post Post #39031 (isolation #938) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:25 am

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Good luck. :]

Is the Amumu lore video supposed to be preempting anything in particular? It's really cool, but it seems iffy content-wise.

I hope they integrate all the cool videos into the client someday.
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Post Post #39034 (isolation #939) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:57 am

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In post 39033, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 39031, Iecerint wrote:but it seems iffy content-wise.

Honestly it seems like the lore changing was just an excuse for "we want to make awesome looking videos"

I'm certainly not complaining! :mrgreen:

Just not sure if it heralds anything. Kalista had a video that leaked before her release. Something about a lightning mage leaked back in December I think.
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Post Post #39036 (isolation #940) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:16 pm

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Hmm, I don't know any videos before the one with Fiddlesticks, really. Any worth diggin for?
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Post Post #39045 (isolation #941) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:37 am

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Bummer about the Sejuani bugfix. I'd enjoyed that. :(
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Post Post #39053 (isolation #942) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:07 pm

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In post 39052, dramonic wrote:Some of the new skins are terrifying.
Heartseeker Varus with Original voice? TERROR ON THE RIFT!

Original voice O.o
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Post Post #39058 (isolation #943) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:46 pm

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In post 39054, dramonic wrote:Well I mean, they generally dont give special voice to regular skins?

Oh, I thought you meant his VO was updated at some point, and this skin was getting his cheesy, deprecated VO. :P
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Post Post #39059 (isolation #944) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:47 pm

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I'd pay for a Janna skin with her ridiculous original VO.
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Post Post #39061 (isolation #945) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:50 pm

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I'd love to practice champs like that tbh. :)
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Post Post #39081 (isolation #946) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:26 pm

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Ls's coaching with Urgod is worth watching. It's funny, too.
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Post Post #39083 (isolation #947) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:26 pm

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Jax would probably have been sufficient, though. He afk'd pretty quickly.
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Post Post #39085 (isolation #948) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:46 pm

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He afk'd with 25 cs.
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Post Post #39087 (isolation #949) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:58 pm

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Oh, I don't disagree.

But if other stuff had gone fine and Jax had been the same, they still would have lost.
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Post Post #39089 (isolation #950) » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:43 pm

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OK buddy.
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Post Post #39105 (isolation #951) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:53 am

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Panzer, you are arguing with yourself.
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Post Post #39108 (isolation #952) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:21 am

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What comment have I made that that you disagree with? I will list them for you so that you can find the appropriate one:
In post 39083, Iecerint wrote:Jax would probably have been sufficient [for the loss], though. He afk'd pretty quickly.

In post 39085, Iecerint wrote:He afk'd with 25 cs.

In post 39087, Iecerint wrote:Oh, I don't disagree.

But if other stuff had gone fine and Jax had been the same, they still would have lost.

The underlying "disagreement" you are perceiving here is that I am trying to discreetly point out that you are embarrassing yourself by being pretty rude for no reason.
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Post Post #39151 (isolation #953) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:11 pm

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DW8 was really fun.
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Post Post #39179 (isolation #954) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:11 am

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Rito said that they were adjusting their placement to err on the side of underplacing people.
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Post Post #39181 (isolation #955) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:23 am

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Ya I agree with you.

Positive note: my self-mystery gifts have included Lunar Goddess Diana, TPA Nunu, Snow Day Malzahar, Nurse Akali, River Spirit Nami, Blood Moon Thresh, Full Machine Viktor, and Heartseeker Vayne.

And 2 Garen skins, but whatever. ^_^
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Post Post #39205 (isolation #956) » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:35 am

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Yayyy Varus R width buff!

And they made Diana slightly more braindead!
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Post Post #39207 (isolation #957) » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:22 pm

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Zora is currently streaming Zora btw.
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Post Post #39209 (isolation #958) » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:56 pm

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Ya, I had thought you owned the Bronze2Silver twitch account.
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Post Post #39223 (isolation #959) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:41 am

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She has a 58% winrate right now.
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Post Post #39225 (isolation #960) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:07 am

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Someone on Reddit had the idea of tying the move speed boost on Q to her ult. I think that nerf approach would feel better, and I don't even play Ahri.

However, Phreak wrote a really acerbic reply somewhere in that Reddit thread, so rito doesn't seem to care very much.
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Post Post #39227 (isolation #961) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:11 am

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Well, what riot is going to do is indicated mainly by the nerfs on the PBE, which preceded the thread.

Phreak's response gave the impression that he had had a discussion about it and a party line had been developed. It reminded me of the language during the Sona rework.

Speaking of -- DJ Sona looks pretty cool!
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Post Post #39234 (isolation #962) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:47 am

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I'm not crazy about the toggle that changes her skin. I hope they add something to the GUI. I had assumed that her QWE changed her skin (which admittedly would've been way chaotic), but it looks like each has its own effects for every ability.
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Post Post #39238 (isolation #963) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:39 am

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^ Yeah, that was pretty hilarious.

The comments section is great, though. My favorite was someone who wanted to know if it was satire.
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Post Post #39244 (isolation #964) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:00 am

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In post 39242, FakeGod wrote:wait

that wasn't a satire?

Riot Magus tweeted a PR thing about it, so it's definitely real.

Pedit ya.
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Post Post #39246 (isolation #965) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:56 am

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Being gay makes you good at video games.
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Post Post #39259 (isolation #966) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:31 am

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Champion.gg is a pretty well-organized site. I like it almost as much as leagueofgraphs. :]
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Post Post #39262 (isolation #967) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:53 am

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In post 39260, zoraster wrote:wow. i think i like that even more

Some of the graphs are pretty interesting! For example, despite being a quintessential "late game" champion, Vladimir has his highest winrate in the 20-25 minute time-bin (53%), whereupon his winrate drops dramatically until the 35+ minute bin (which is the latest bin available). I might have expected a pretty different power-curve.

Other late game champions like Sejuani have the anticipated power curve, though.
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Post Post #39265 (isolation #968) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:05 am

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I was happy to see Ardent Censer in Sona's high winrate items. Much vindication. ^_^
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Post Post #39269 (isolation #969) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:56 am

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Looks like it's on Kalista/Vayne/Twitch/Koggles, so it seems to pop up where you expect the extra AS might do work. I'd never heard of it before, either.

It's interesting to compare the popularity and success of that approach. For example, it's more popular than successful on Koggles, but it's more successful than popular on Kalista.
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Post Post #39343 (isolation #970) » Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:22 pm

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Rod of Ages Taric. XD
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Post Post #39350 (isolation #971) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:46 am

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I'm excited about trying Nemesis later tonight. I like playing hipster champions.
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Post Post #39353 (isolation #972) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:16 am

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Some of those are legitimate lifestyles choices!
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Post Post #39371 (isolation #973) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:02 pm

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I like Nemesis when I don't hate it.
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Post Post #39383 (isolation #974) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:22 pm

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IE is a lot weaker if the rest of your build doesn't have lots of AD.

It might be reasonable to build less AD if you scale really well with AS or have lots of useful on-hit things.

Maybe not "best" but.
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Post Post #39386 (isolation #975) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:27 pm

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IIRC, Runaan's does apply to Kog's W. It also applies to Varus's W, Miss Fortune's W, Teemo's E, and Twitch's passive.

The only built-in on-hit you might expect that it doesn't work with is Vayne, since she's no longer hitting only the same target 3 times. They specially programmed her case so that it doesn't totally remove her W mechanic from the main target, though.
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Post Post #39387 (isolation #976) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:28 pm

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I bet AP Nashor Varus would like it a lot. I should try it in ARAM sometime.
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Post Post #39390 (isolation #977) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:02 pm

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I've played with some AP Varus players in all-AD Nemesis Draft teams, and they invariably carry.
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Post Post #39418 (isolation #978) » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:46 am

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Never underestimate the power of the scouts' code.
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Post Post #39424 (isolation #979) » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:53 am

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In post 39423, dramonic wrote:Aren't you gold 5 ani?

That's ranked 3s.
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Post Post #39426 (isolation #980) » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:09 pm

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I find that I do a lot better if I queue for ranked by accident.

Try to find a way to make it fun instead of being really invested in the outcome. Type "/all glhf" when the game starts. Mute or reassure players who seem really tilted, especially if they start the game that way.
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Post Post #39466 (isolation #981) » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:12 pm

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I love putting it right behind them when they've finished their daily poke.
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Post Post #39503 (isolation #982) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:55 pm

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I couldn't live without MF, but you seem pretty comfortable on Jinx already.
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Post Post #39511 (isolation #983) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:12 pm

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In post 39508, dramonic wrote:Image

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It displays only match ups with at least 100 games. You can edit it I think.
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Post Post #39517 (isolation #984) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:27 pm

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She's a lane bully who scales decently and her mechanics are pretty simple. Her passive lets you roam well once you're fed. It's true that lack of mpen makes her ult fall off late, but it's also ridiculous early.
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Post Post #39548 (isolation #985) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:11 am

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In post 39544, xRECKONERx wrote:Swain is an excellent mid pick[...]He can push hard[...]

Swain is v stronk, but his waveclear is terrible until 6 unless you put multiple points into W, which lowers your damage output significantly.

I think he's stronger top on the grounds that his poor waveclear isn't as significant an impediment up there.
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Post Post #39560 (isolation #986) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:37 pm

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In post 39557, animorpherv1 wrote:OK that's cool.
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Post Post #39580 (isolation #987) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:45 am

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Time for zora to counter with a middle name.
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Post Post #39584 (isolation #988) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:51 am

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Maybe he was Jordan's slave.
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Post Post #39596 (isolation #989) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:52 am

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Apparently he was pretty strong on PBE and they had to dial him back a bit. So I'll reserve judgment.

Kass, on the other hand....
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Post Post #39599 (isolation #990) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:04 pm

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It's a small buff half the time, and a big nerf the other half of the time. It's also a nerf to her mobility before level 3.

It would be helpful to know how broadly "toward Janna" is defined. I imagine it's like Captain's Boots.
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Post Post #39602 (isolation #991) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:11 pm

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One thing that annoys me about the Veigar thing is that they emphasize that his Q cooldown is "lower " while ignoring that most are going to max it first.
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Post Post #39603 (isolation #992) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:11 pm

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In post 39600, Nikanor wrote:
In post 39598, dramonic wrote:That veigar shift is not a nerf...
It's a huge buff to his early game and he's an infinite scaler <_<
The new delay on E is not that big of a deal.

yeah but q is a skillshot now. huge nerf.

But it has more range and can deal its damage twice. I could see it being more satisfying now.
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Post Post #39606 (isolation #993) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:20 pm

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If this leaves him weak, I think what they should do is increase the amount of time that the E cage is up. That way, a "goal" stage can be trapping someone inside the cage rather than actually stunning them with the cage border, and that's probably closer to the theme, anyway.
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Post Post #39609 (isolation #994) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:57 pm

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Janna's new W will hurt her movement speed a lot more upon use. I guess Rito mentioned that the last time they fiddled with her W, too.
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Post Post #39610 (isolation #995) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:58 pm

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I love Bard's sound effects.
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Post Post #39614 (isolation #996) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:11 pm

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On-hit Fizz the terror.
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Post Post #39623 (isolation #997) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:35 pm

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Dodging doesn't affect your MMR IIRC, so in the long run it doesn't matter much if you dodge a lot. Maybe try to avoid the 10 LP penalty so that it doesn't feel bad.
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Post Post #39632 (isolation #998) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:56 pm

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I hadn't noticed that Bard's passive has infinite scaling. ^_^
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Post Post #39654 (isolation #999) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:26 pm

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There's a video of Bard-jungle's clear on Youtube. It's extremely slow, but doable if you start W and place a bunch of health packs for yourself right at the start.
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